Discussion I need serious help from codecels

[Shin no Shi]

I am currently in limbo with a lot of ideas I would like to do and the hobbies I would like to get into, however, programming or just tech in general has been one of my first and favourite hobbies since I was born. The fascination of computer hardware and software has always got my interest, and will admit that it was one of the many reason I'm more indoors than the outdoors type.

I've been thinking about making games but also want to get into the web development too but my main issue is usually with the language to learn. If any solid advice can be given, I would be very grateful towards it.

 

[The Zulfigar]

web development

JS? Can't rly give an advice coz I'm not codecel, but I'm trying to learn web as well.

 

[Shin no Shi]

JS? Can't rly give an advice coz I'm not codecel, but I'm trying to learn web as well.

that's fine. Thanks anyway

 

[The Zulfigar]

that's fine. Thanks anyway

Np, it's an interesting topic. I have some game ideas, but it seems to hard for me to do in js, with my current skills. Like I can do most basic things for a web page, but when it comes to animation tutorial I can follow, but I can't comprehend. There are libraries though or maybe you would have more luck with unity and stuff. I had some experience with Adobe flash, and I could try if there is something similar to make a game but idk.
Do you know html/css?

 

[Deleted member 22907]

@kodoku

 

[metabuxx]

I know which languages you should learn for web development

You should begin by learning HTML and CSS, obviously

Then you can choose to go with Node.js and MongoDB or Django and SQL

I personally went for Python. Then I learned Django and SQL.
After that I learned Javascript for creating more dynamic web pages.

Then you should also learn how to use github, CI/CD (for deployment) etc.

 

[solblue]

You can make a game in any language, it just depends on what kind of game you want to make

 

[unsettling]

im sure that someone will help you out, lots of helpful people around here

 

[The Zulfigar]

I know which languages you should learn for web development

You should begin by learning HTML and CSS, obviously

Then you can choose to go with Node.js and MongoDB or Django and SQL

I personally went for Python. Then I learned Django and SQL.
After that I learned Javascript for creating more dynamic web pages.

Then you should also learn how to use github, CI/CD (for deployment) etc.

Can you give me some advice? I'm pretty ok with with html/css and ik just basic js, like event listeners and stuff, bit of Dom manipulation, though I don't know where to go next. Ik I need to do projects, though I can't come up with something more interesting than Todo app, and something which could be interesting is to hard to do, like a game for example. Feels like a loop. Ik a guy who is a web dev, i shown him my css/html, and while he pointed lot of things to me, he also said they are nice, though he only suggests me to build more pages, while my struggle is js

 

[kodoku]

if american, do whatever you like the most
if not american, web development frontend or backend / mobile apps, not games

languages if american: whatever
laguanges if not american: modern JavaScript with React framework, Node.js, Python, assuming you learn html, css, git workflow etc. because it's a must anyways

 

[TheBasedCel]

if american, do whatever you like the most
if not american, web development frontend or backend / mobile apps, not games

languages if american: whatever
laguanges if not american: modern JavaScript with React framework, Node.js, Python

wow you finnaly replied, coding is boring to death unless you are autistic. Instead of langauge you should look what framework you like

 

[Shin no Shi]

if american, do whatever you like the most
if not american, web development frontend or backend / mobile apps, not games

languages if american: whatever
laguanges if not american: modern JavaScript with React framework, Node.js, Python, assuming you learn html, css, git workflow etc. because it's a must anyways

why can't i do bideo games if non-murican

 

[kodoku]

why can't i do bideo games if non-murican

cuz it's more probable that you won't make a living out of it and it's honestly too much time to invest for a hobby

 

[Deleted member 22685]

if american, do whatever you like the most
if not american, web development frontend or backend / mobile apps, not games

languages if american: whatever
laguanges if not american: modern JavaScript with React framework, Node.js, Python, assuming you learn html, css, git workflow etc. because it's a must anyways

Im interested in programming too, got any advice on where to start, what to learn first,second and so on?

 

[kodoku]

Im interested in programming too, got any advice on where to start, what to learn first,second and so on?

I went to technical college but I learned more in Udemy watching courses, they cost but you can find them pirated here https://www.learningcrux.com/

There are good posts in reddit about how to start learning, I lurk this sub very often



View: https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/7ngwz7/where_to_start_to_learn_web_development/

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/7o9pm2/where_to_start_with_web_development/

 

[Deleted member 22685]

I went to technical college but I learned more in Udemy watching courses, they cost but you can find them pirated here https://www.learningcrux.com/

There are good posts in reddit about how to start learning, I lurk this sub very often

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/7o9pm2/where_to_start_with_web_development/

Thank you

 

[WarriorSkull]

Join https://www.c0d3.com/

It’s free, there is human reviewed homework and a chat for help

 

[slavcel11]

man I want to make a gacha game one day

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

for gamedev just learn an engine, you will take forever if you make your own engine and possibly just be an engine programmer forever

for web idk there's a lot of ways you could go, what i heard from guys with money is that .NET pays well and is not too hard to learn but that might not be true anymore, the world moves fast.
for web you will need:
- document: how to create HTML/CSS layouts
- client logic: Javascript most likely, try some frameworks like React or Angular
- server logic: either some type of scripting language like PHP, or a real programming language like Java, C# for .NET
- very basic abilities with Photoshop so you can edit images because the designer doesn't always give you the right stuff
- very basic abilities for working with an FTP/HTTP server so you know to install your website on a server, you can practice with free website hosts for this

you can't really skip out on any of these, it's popular now for employers to ask for a "full stack dev" that can do everything, and you are expected to do almost everything unless you're a foid

also sign up for tech job websites like glassdoor if that's in your area and see what skills the employers in your area want

 

[Shin no Shi]

for gamedev just learn an engine, you will take forever if you make your own engine and possibly just be an engine programmer forever

for web idk there's a lot of ways you could go, what i heard from guys with money is that .NET pays well and is not too hard to learn but that might not be true anymore, the world moves fast.
for web you will need:
- document: how to create HTML/CSS layouts
- client logic: Javascript most likely, try some frameworks like React or Angular
- server logic: either some type of scripting language like PHP, or a real programming language like Java, C# for .NET
- very basic abilities with Photoshop so you can edit images because the designer doesn't always give you the right stuff
- very basic abilities for working with an FTP/HTTP server so you know to install your website on a server, you can practice with free website hosts for this

you can't really skip out on any of these, it's popular now for employers to ask for a "full stack dev" that can do everything, and you are expected to do almost everything unless you're a foid

also sign up for tech job websites like glassdoor if that's in your area and see what skills the employers in your area want

interesting, thanks for the detail, also @kodoku thank you as well.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

interesting, thanks for the detail, also @kodoku thank you as well.

np cyancel

I started learning PHP in university and had one internship.

If you like PHP and want to do backend stuff, learn a framework like Symfony, Laravel, etc.
I also recommend learning about Git, Jira, Jenkins / TeamCity, Docker, MySQL / PostgreSQL, npm and some HTML, CSS, JS / jQuery.

I learned about Symfony from this series:

View: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLillGF-Rfqba-PQBBEf14-fi6LafvvDYS


Moreover, you can try googling for things like "programming academy" in your country. Some companies search for employees by offering free programming lectures but it might be hard to get accepted as a newbie.
I finished one academy and it was probably the only reason I got an internship because I suck at interviews and don't have any connections.

I like PHP tbh, and employers definitely ask for frameworks now even though I never used them at my old job.

 

[kodoku]

I also recommend learning about Git, Jira, Jenkins / TeamCity, Docker, MySQL / PostgreSQL, npm and some HTML, CSS, JS / jQuery.

dont learn jquery

 

[Deleted member 19079]

good advice tbh

for gamedev just learn an engine, you will take forever if you make your own engine and possibly just be an engine programmer forever

for web idk there's a lot of ways you could go, what i heard from guys with money is that .NET pays well and is not too hard to learn but that might not be true anymore, the world moves fast.
for web you will need:
- document: how to create HTML/CSS layouts
- client logic: Javascript most likely, try some frameworks like React or Angular
- server logic: either some type of scripting language like PHP, or a real programming language like Java, C# for .NET
- very basic abilities with Photoshop so you can edit images because the designer doesn't always give you the right stuff
- very basic abilities for working with an FTP/HTTP server so you know to install your website on a server, you can practice with free website hosts for this

you can't really skip out on any of these, it's popular now for employers to ask for a "full stack dev" that can do everything, and you are expected to do almost everything unless you're a foid

also sign up for tech job websites like glassdoor if that's in your area and see what skills the employers in your area want

how good at maths do i need to be to do back-end web dev?

 

[Indari]

do you need BBC in your AAS?

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

how good at maths do i need to be to do back-end web dev?

i suck and i was able to do it, you just need to be able to write algorithms, not do maths on paper

 

[Deleted member 19079]

i suck and i was able to do it, you just need to be able to write algorithms, not do maths on paper

thats reassuring lel thx man

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I would personally go for python and Java to start off with.

 

[WØLF]

I can’t code tbh i’m probably low IQ

 

[Deleted member 27495]

u need 200IQ minimum to be a decent programmer otherwise everyone will ridicule you and u will always be a shitty mediocre dev

just give up that dream and rot tbh its over.