It's Over I lost my dignity and respect

[svgmn1]

years ago. is there anything I could do to regain that? No.

I'm giving the younger folks here an advice based on my experience and mistakes, keep fighting for your respect and dignity even if you don't deserve it. even if you hate yourself.

I know it is pointless to respect yourself if you were like me. born with shit genes shit looks and inherited shit mentality and lowiq. I'm not (by any chance) telling you to start loving yourself or this alpha redpilled bullshit. what I mean is, having people disrespecting you can make this even harder. if you can't get people to respect you, at least set boundaries to prevent their disrespect from taking a toll on you.

when I say that I don't mean physical strength. what you really need is mental strength. you need to be very quick. very very quick and snappy. and I know this is so hard for a mentally disabled autists like some of you and me, but you have to plan, rehearse and train for that all the time. I'm not being satirical. your behavior should be spontaneous and quick, but you should have planned for the "general shape" of your behavior.

and that goes for evey environment you're in, especially work environment. trust me the gym won't help you here, nor fitness will. I've been a gymcel and I've been humiliated, I've seen another gymcel being terribly humiliated at work. on the contrary, i've seen some truecels and fatcels (including morbidly obese 50 year old dudes) being devious, cautious and well respected, only thanks to the way they know people and deal with them.

mentality comes right after genes, then gymcelling will be complementary to these two to enable you to exploit people physically. the reason for that is people don't deal with you physically right of the bat, if people want to fuck with you, they will judge you based on your genes first, then skim your mentality and read you, lastly physical phase begins. this goes in order of priority. this is why you need to plan for your behavior.


I've been working like a dog for 5 years in the field. i've been exploited and been asked to do overtime and tasked with things that aren't part of my job till the point that when I don't do these things my current manager cuts part of my paycheck because he expects me to do it. i've been mocked and bullied and all sorts of things just for looking ugly, or stuttering, or showing signs of autism. I tried to please everybody even my own family, expecting a little bit of chance that maybe, maybe if I do this next thing for this person he would respect me. I got nothing in return. I reached the point of expecting nothing in return anymore.

people are not just disgraceful, no. I understand it's all business, mental business and I do own up to my mistakes.


so young folks: set boundaries for everything. don't let normies exploit your weaknesses (genetics, looks and autism) and fortify yourselves.

never undermine verbal disrespect, the toll it takes on you would be greater in the future and it would only lead to the worst. always treat the first signs of it seriously, especially if you're both ugly and autistic

because chances are these things are not coincidental at all, it's all deliberate.

 

[Failed Pullout]

Normfags are malicious to the unfortunate.

 

[Fat Link]

Wise words.

If forced to wage cuck as an incel it’s probably best to be self employed and own your own business if at all possible.

If not then obviously your next best bet is then finding a job with a respectful employer and a work environment where your interactions with the general public are either sparse or non existent.

Probably why so many trucels prefer long haul trucking.

 

[loser550]

Wise words.

If forced to wage cuck as an incel it’s probably best to be self employed and own your own business if at all possible.

If not then obviously your next best bet is then finding a job with a respectful employer and a work environment where your interactions with the general public are either sparse or non existent.

Probably why so many trucels prefer long haul trucking.

I would rather rope than wageslave

 

[Fat Link]

I would rather rope than wageslave

Agreed.

However I can see the appeal for cels that might actually enjoy their job and or desire to make a lot of money to afford the best and most comfortable copes.

 

[Mecoja]

High IQ and youngcels would benefit greatly if the read it. For me it's too late.

 

[loser550]

Agreed.

However I can see the appeal for cels that might actually enjoy their job and or desire to make a lot of money to afford the best and most comfortable copes.

Yeah tbh some brocels don’t have a choice

 

[HeinzKell]

I've been working like a dog for 5 years in the field. i've been exploited and been asked to do overtime and tasked with things that aren't part of my job till the point that when I don't do these things my current manager cuts part of my paycheck because he expects me to do it. i've been mocked and bullied and all sorts of things just for looking ugly, or stuttering, or showing signs of autism. I tried to please everybody even my own family, expecting a little bit of chance that maybe, maybe if I do this next thing for this person he would respect me. I got nothing in return. I reached the point of expecting nothing in return anymore.

This. At most jobs, management can smell blood in the water and WILL take advantage of a pushover. After a long time of them taking advantage of you, they'll just expect you to pick up other people's slack as if that's one of your main tasks

 

[svgmn1]

If not then obviously your next best bet is then finding a job with a respectful employer and a work environment where your interactions with the general public are either sparse or non existent.

Probably why so many trucels prefer long haul trucking.

this. on a sidenote, I came across many people here who believe "I am invisible because I'm a fugly noboby" bullshit. you're maybe invisible to foids in terms of "I would never find that person looks acceptable"
but as for work dynamics, you can only be "invisible" if you have a nice job thay doesn't force you to interact with other people. you're not invisible if your job forces you to interact with people or have a slight chance of getting you to be interactive, because if it was, people would shove themselves and invade your spaces to try exploiting you and gain benefit no matter how much you try to prevent that.

many youngcels who are new to the work field think they are invisible while unknowingly being targeted for exploitation slowly and steadly. they complain but don't know where their problems come from and when they finally start to realize this like I did, it'll already be too damn late.

normies aren't afraid of your ugly looks and your erratic, unexpected autistic behavior, they actually see it as a weakness

 

[svgmn1]

High IQ and youngcels would benefit greatly if the read it. For me it's too late.

Thanks but I'm sorry it's too late for you. I hope those youngcels snap of "I'm invisible nothing worse can happen" cope and start acting quick, otherwise they'll just end up like you and me

 

[Ci Jey]

years ago. is there anything I could do to regain that? No.

I'm giving the younger folks here an advice based on my experience and mistakes, keep fighting for your respect and dignity even if you don't deserve it. even if you hate yourself.

I know it is pointless to respect yourself if you were like me. born with shit genes shit looks and inherited shit mentality and lowiq. I'm not (by any chance) telling you to start loving yourself or this alpha redpilled bullshit. what I mean is, having people disrespecting you can make this even harder. if you can't get people to respect you, at least set boundaries to prevent their disrespect from taking a toll on you.

when I say that I don't mean physical strength. what you really need is mental strength. you need to be very quick. very very quick and snappy. and I know this is so hard for a mentally disabled autists like some of you and me, but you have to plan, rehearse and train for that all the time. I'm not being satirical. your behavior should be spontaneous and quick, but you should have planned for the "general shape" of your behavior.

and that goes for evey environment you're in, especially work environment. trust me the gym won't help you here, nor fitness will. I've been a gymcel and I've been humiliated, I've seen another gymcel being terribly humiliated at work. on the contrary, i've seen some truecels and fatcels (including morbidly obese 50 year old dudes) being devious, cautious and well respected, only thanks to the way he knows people and deal with them.

mentality comes right after genes, then gymcelling will be complementary to these two to enable you to exploit people physically. the reason for that is people don't deal with you physically right of the bat, if people want to fuck with you, they will judge you based on your genes first, then skim your mentality and read you, lastly physical phase begins. this goes in order of priority. this is why you need to plan for your behavior.


I've been working like a dog for 5 years in the field. i've been exploited and been asked to do overtime and tasked with things that aren't part of my job till the point that when I don't do these things my current manager cuts part of my paycheck because he expects me to do it. i've been mocked and bullied and all sorts of things just for looking ugly, or stuttering, or showing signs of autism. I tried to please everybody even my own family, expecting a little bit of chance that maybe, maybe if I do this next thing for this person he would respect me. I got nothing in return. I reached the point of expecting nothing in return anymore.

people are not just disgraceful, no. I understand it's all business, mental business and I do own up to my mistakes.


so young folks: set boundaries for everything. don't let normies exploit your weaknesses (genetics, looks and autism) and fortify yourselves.

never undermine verbal disrespect, the toll it takes on you would be greater in the future and it would only lead to the worst. always treat the first signs of it seriously, especially if you're both ugly and autistic

because chances are these things are not coincidental at all, it's all deliberate.

Who cares about those meaningless societal concepts jfl

 

[svgmn1]

I would rather rope than wageslave

oh man you don't know how I fucking wish.
if I only, just had a chance to get monthly wellfare checks or something like that
if I was born to wealthy, or not wealthy but atleast caring parents to just rot in my room and neet.

but I don't have that "luxury" I'm born ugly and unfortunate, forced to slave myself to live.

 

[svgmn1]

Who cares about those meaningless societal concepts jfl

you think so?
I tried not caring about any of this for five years man. five fucking years of this shit.
this soy-cietal bullshit will catch you later when you grow old. and it'll be rock hard, tougher than diamonds boy. those years will take toll on anybody.

 

[loser550]

oh man you don't know how I fucking wish.
if I only, just had a chance to get monthly wellfare checks or something like that
if I was born to wealthy, or not wealthy but atleast caring parents to just rot in my room and neet.

but I don't have that "luxury" I'm born ugly, forced to slave myself.

I am sorry to hear that man. I really appreciate your advice me being almost 21 in feb 28 I feel like all the things happened to me that u described being tried by other people and waIked all over

 

[Runt171]

years ago. is there anything I could do to regain that? No.

I'm giving the younger folks here an advice based on my experience and mistakes, keep fighting for your respect and dignity even if you don't deserve it. even if you hate yourself.

I know it is pointless to respect yourself if you were like me. born with shit genes shit looks and inherited shit mentality and lowiq. I'm not (by any chance) telling you to start loving yourself or this alpha redpilled bullshit. what I mean is, having people disrespecting you can make this even harder. if you can't get people to respect you, at least set boundaries to prevent their disrespect from taking a toll on you.

when I say that I don't mean physical strength. what you really need is mental strength. you need to be very quick. very very quick and snappy. and I know this is so hard for a mentally disabled autists like some of you and me, but you have to plan, rehearse and train for that all the time. I'm not being satirical. your behavior should be spontaneous and quick, but you should have planned for the "general shape" of your behavior.

and that goes for evey environment you're in, especially work environment. trust me the gym won't help you here, nor fitness will. I've been a gymcel and I've been humiliated, I've seen another gymcel being terribly humiliated at work. on the contrary, i've seen some truecels and fatcels (including morbidly obese 50 year old dudes) being devious, cautious and well respected, only thanks to the way they know people and deal with them.

mentality comes right after genes, then gymcelling will be complementary to these two to enable you to exploit people physically. the reason for that is people don't deal with you physically right of the bat, if people want to fuck with you, they will judge you based on your genes first, then skim your mentality and read you, lastly physical phase begins. this goes in order of priority. this is why you need to plan for your behavior.


I've been working like a dog for 5 years in the field. i've been exploited and been asked to do overtime and tasked with things that aren't part of my job till the point that when I don't do these things my current manager cuts part of my paycheck because he expects me to do it. i've been mocked and bullied and all sorts of things just for looking ugly, or stuttering, or showing signs of autism. I tried to please everybody even my own family, expecting a little bit of chance that maybe, maybe if I do this next thing for this person he would respect me. I got nothing in return. I reached the point of expecting nothing in return anymore.

people are not just disgraceful, no. I understand it's all business, mental business and I do own up to my mistakes.


so young folks: set boundaries for everything. don't let normies exploit your weaknesses (genetics, looks and autism) and fortify yourselves.

never undermine verbal disrespect, the toll it takes on you would be greater in the future and it would only lead to the worst. always treat the first signs of it seriously, especially if you're both ugly and autistic

because chances are these things are not coincidental at all, it's all deliberate.

This is another reason being a framelet is a massive flaw

Ive always tried to maintain respect with people but unless you can be a threat in some way
physically or socially
They wont take you seriously at all

 

[Runt171]

High IQ and youngcels would benefit greatly if the read it. For me it's too late.

It depends on your situation
Some incels cant get respect no matter what

Some are lucky enough to be threatening in some way or just charismatic enough socially to keep people respectful

 

[Runt171]

oh man you don't know how I fucking wish.
if I only, just had a chance to get monthly wellfare checks or something like that
if I was born to wealthy, or not wealthy but atleast caring parents to just rot in my room and neet.

but I don't have that "luxury" I'm born ugly and unfortunate, forced to slave myself to live.

Is there no way you can get neetbux??

 

[Mecoja]

It depends on your situation
Some incels cant get respect no matter what

Some are lucky enough to be threatening in some way or just charismatic enough socially to keep people respectful

True, but guys like us has to keep others at arms reach, because if you're friendly people will start shitting on you and stomping on you. It's better to be the quiet guy left out than to be included and be bullied in adulthood.

 

[Runt171]

True, but guys like us has to keep others at arms reach, because if you're friendly people will start shitting on you and stomping on you. It's better to be the quiet guy left out than to be included and be bullied in adulthood.

Yeah I agree

 

[SubhumanGamer]

You had respect?

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

that's because you were brainwashed by jewish (((pornography)))

 

[lifesucksandyoudie]

If you spend any substantial amount of time with normgroids, you can't keep insisting you don't care what they think about you forever. There are long term ramifications to this kind of mentality that are detrimental to your mental well being

 

[svgmn1]

This is another reason being a framelet is a massive flaw

Ive always tried to maintain respect with people but unless you can be a threat in some way
physically or socially
They wont take you seriously at all

I've seen all sorts of framelets or morbidly obese people being treated normally just for being nt and socialy skilled, I've seen autistic gymcels literally being abused and made fun of everyday and talked dirty about by my managers and coworkers. trust me when I say the mental factor matters more.

 

[copemaxx9002]

This. At most jobs, management can smell blood in the water and WILL take advantage of a pushover. After a long time of them taking advantage of you, they'll just expect you to pick up other people's slack as if that's one of your main tasks

Can confirm ex wagie who saw how rigged the game was. Put me into a spiral of depression and despair. Now I'm a sad fuck.

 

[svgmn1]

True, but guys like us has to keep others at arms reach, because if you're friendly people will start shitting on you and stomping on you. It's better to be the quiet guy left out than to be included and be bullied in adulthood.

exactly. both solid points. the most important part is keeping others at arms reach, do not just take one part of it which is "be the quiet guy" part. the "keep others at arms reach" is far more important.

for all this time I just wished to be left alone and I was not left alone.

 

[svgmn1]

If you spend any substantial amount of time with normgroids, you can't keep insisting you don't care what they think about you forever. There are long term ramifications to this kind of mentality that are detrimental to your mental well being

a good way to phrase some of what I just said. it's a hydrogen bomb blackpill on youngcels who just got themselves into the workfield

 

[Mecoja]

exactly. both solid points. the most important part is keeping others at arms reach, do not just take one part of it which is "be the quiet guy" part. the "keep others at arms reach" is far more important.

Yeah, and don't accept favors, free things or letting them take the responsibility for you from others because they will see you as useless and they will think that you owe them obedience.

 

[svgmn1]

to summarize things for youngcels, do not follow the clownpill or whatever "I'm invisible" copes some people on the internet say. it won't work. always set boundaries.

I swear on my life that I have good intentions in this thread. I only hope these teens won't make the same mistakes

 

[svgmn1]

Can confirm ex wagie who saw how rigged the game was. Put me into a spiral of depression and despair. Now I'm a sad fuck.

sometimes you wage for such a long time you feel like you're in a prison. you don't have time to live and you don't have time to improve your skills to get yourself out of this spiral

I went through everything you guys talk about and it saddens me to see what you guys are writing here. so far this has been the most relatable topic i've discussed here.

 

[psyop]

I noticed this in school. You see little rats who are comfortable despite being small/ugly because they know who to target, how to talk, how to get the attention off of them. It’s a subconscious thing people do when they first meet someone, reading them and noting all their insecurities/bad traits. But what specific advice do you have to counter this, say to someone whose starting their first job next week for example

 

[Robb97]

My approach is to just not care. I have to go that route anyways because there is no comeback for my face. Verbal skills aren't going to matter much if you're fuck ugly. Because the other person can say something as simple as: Yeah you're right but you're ugly, and they will win whatever argument you're in because everybody knows that few things are as important as your genetic worth. Whatever you're arguing over will look pointless compared to that.

 

[svgmn1]

I noticed this in school. You see little rats who are comfortable despite being small/ugly because they know who to target, how to talk, how to get the attention off of them. It’s a subconscious thing people do when they first meet someone, reading them and noting all their insecurities/bad traits. But what specific advice do you have to counter this, say to someone whose starting their first job next week for example

I don't have a plan for everyone or anyone tbh
I myself failed. I am simply giving the advice of being cautious and setting boundaries, being quick when thinking and interacting.
learn to be defensive, never let one thing slide.
trying to curb one's autistic behavior and that last point is so important because autism is your biggest enemy.

I was laughed at once in the lunch break for doing weird expressions while eating or staring at nothing or doing something really autistic or stuttering or taking a long time to answer or saying something really stupid as an answer because I didn't understand what was being told to me. I tried so hard not to do those over the years but I couldn't. I'm 26 years old as of now and nothing I've done worked, including therapy which was a big mistake. I reached the conclusion that there's no fix or a way to deal with my autism.

I think one has to train himself and constantly rehearse how he acts around people, just like learning a programming language you don't know. trust me no matter how much you think you've been around people, if you're autistic you have no experience, therefore you need to learn these from the beginning as if you're learning a new language straight from the alphabet. I think that is the only probable solution.

 

[svgmn1]

My approach is to just not care. I have to go that route anyways because there is no comeback for my face. Verbal skills aren't going to matter much if you're fuck ugly. Because the other person can say something as simple as: Yeah you're right but you're ugly, and they will win whatever argument you're in because everybody knows that few things are as important as your genetic worth. Whatever you're arguing over will look pointless compared to that.

I think destiny plays a big part of this. sometimes you do everything, set boundaries trying to be like the nt folks who are as ugly and still somehow get normies to abuse us because we're destined to. some of us are just unfortunate

 

[Dehati NEET]

I feel like I'm gonna end up like you. I'm high inhib and kind of a pushover, don't raise my voice. So I'm kinda afraid of joining the workforce even if I want to. I don't know how to change.

 

[Beggar]

People who say they hate their jobs but are always bullying others at work are despicable. A bullet to the head for them.

 

[svgmn1]

I feel like I'm gonna end up like you. I'm high inhib and kind of a pushover, don't raise my voice. So I'm kinda afraid of joining the workforce even if I want to. I don't know how to change.

being a voicecel on top of being ugly and having autism is a death sentence. I hope you survive this.

 

[svgmn1]

You had respect?

never. it's just being humiliated at a mature age that hits different and makes you feel like you truly lost a battle to earn it.

 

[NorthernWind]

For me it's too late.

 

[Regressive]

i always have this in my mind to challenge the offender to a duel and try to be nice with everyone as far as they are nice...if not, i ignore them first (being patient),,if the shit keeps going on i will blandly challenge the mofucker to a fight,,,i will do that in a mocking way while smiling tho, but i will be firm n insist unless they apologize
of course it might never happen but shits happen