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I know this is a MGTOW thing to say but even if I was average looking and could get some girls I don't know if in 2020 it's worth it.

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With so many guys getting cheated on, treated like trash, having to constantly simp to keep women, and all the false rape accusations I don't see how I could have a safe healthy relationship with any girl in today's world.
 
women toilets are trash
 
not worth it hookers and escorts only
 
Def. not worth it. With current couples I see nothing but beta bux "relationships".
My cousin was swapping his foids for the last 10 years attempting to find the one to build family with.
He is 7/10 190cm tall - finally got married on 4.5/10 but still as a cuck only.
 
Yes they a rather substantial drain on resources, and if you don't feel like you need them in your life and are content with it you should remain as you are.

However, most men have a deep-seated longing for affection and validation, and since there is a monopoly held on that by females it's integral for men to have a female partner. It's in our instincts to desire this type of relationship and your brain will assault you with emotional pain signals the longer you are socially isolated, as this emotional pain has evolved in human beings due to their status as a social animal.

The purpose is to get relief from this pain, and for most people materialistic positions aren't too much to gamble when compared to the reward. The reward isn't tangible, but it will have a passive effect on your levels of motivation and success.
Watashi ni Tenshi ga Maiorita1

But that's just my observation pewpew.
 
Yes they a rather substantial drain on resources, and if you don't feel like you need them in your life and are content with it you should remain as you are.

However, most men have a deep-seated longing for affection and validation, and since there is a monopoly held on that by females it's integral for men to have a female partner. It's in our instincts to desire this type of relationship and your brain will assault you with emotional pain signals the longer you are socially isolated, as this emotional pain has evolved in human beings due to their status as a social animal.

The purpose is to get relief from this pain, and for most people materialistic positions aren't too much to gamble when compared to the reward. The reward isn't tangible, but it will have a passive effect on your levels of motivation and success.
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But that's just my observation pewpew.
That's true but most women can't even fake affection nowadays.
 
Everything is pointless if you aren't Chad
 
That's true but most women can't even fake affection nowadays.
That's why cucks have spawned in the new era, men are adapting to self-delude themselves into believing that they're receiving love and affection. It's not necessarily because they're stupid, they're just trying to make the best of their situation given their more beta nature.

I don't believe in sub8 personally, I believe that if a normie has sufficient qualifications and makes a genuine effort that they can attain a non-cucked relationship. Normies are still the most common, but they're a rapidly shrinking class with the required looks threshold raising constantly. It's why there's CURRENTLY no major unrest within the general public regarding hypergamy, but if the trends continue there eventually will be.

Incels are in a weird position, because they don't self-delude themselves not do they possess the looks to behave like a normie. They're locked into a de facto torturous state currently pewpew.
 
But at least you know why you are in that position. Chad doesn't need to care about anything. He can pump and dump bed chained landwhales and don't loose anything.
The same landwhales that will squeeze each penny from you.
 
It just seems so exhausting to me.
 
based thread.
genuine love with a beautiful and innocent girl is what I crave. however I'm fully aware this is a platonic ideal - real women are anything but loveable.
and no, this is not a cope, because I do suffer. however my suffering is not situational; it is existential. being an incel is not a sorrow: being a human male, a pathetic being who craves affection from demonic creatures known as "women", is my sorrow
also, maybe I'm indeed being hypocrital, but that's because I'm being honest. all things are inherently contradictory, accept this or die in rebellion against reality
 
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I feel very similar, tbh. I suppose that a lot of us, are just mstow at this point. The reward just isn't worth the effort you have to put in, these days. I'm not interested in juping through multiple hoops, when the reward for doing so, is a used up whore, who most likely won't even pretend to love me. I rather stay a neet for all my life, play video games, and try to distrect myself as good as i can, until i cease to exists. I've come to accept that the few things i really want in life, just doesn't exist in this reality. Of course this doesn't stop me from feeling sad about it, but at least it helps me to feel somewhat content.
 
BUT I NEED MAKE KIDS AND PASS ON MY GENES
ALSO I AM LONELY
 
gay and unpilled
 
not worth it hookers and escorts only
Imagine providing for a foid
Ok how can you see yourself having a safe normal relationship in 2020? Even if you were average?

Relationships don’t exist for sub 9s only true chads don’t have to worry to be cheated on
 
The only way is to live in Texas where the laws still favor men's rights but even though you'd then be free of most horrible legal hassles and bullshit you'd probably still have to deal with all the other afforementioned hassles and bullshit that comes with the modern empowered female a.k.a slut which is to say cheating, golddigging, mean spirited callous behavior, ugly tattoos, foul mouth, etc, etc.
 
Ok how can you see yourself having a safe normal relationship in 2020? Even if you were average?

That won't happen boyo you should normiemaxx and fuck other girls/hookers because you will get cucked.The year is fucking 2020,my teens will soon end and my family and friends know i never had a girlfriend,it is unsettling to know that i missed out in such a common thing in life in the eyes of society.
 
"But muh false rape accusations and #metoo! We have to own those feminists epic style! Go MGTOW! MGTOWS are the breadwinners!" Chad doesn't have to worry about any of those JFL at MGTOW. coping plebs who act like normies when you dare tell them you're an Incel or blackpilled
 
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Yes they a rather substantial drain on resources, and if you don't feel like you need them in your life and are content with it you should remain as you are.

However, most men have a deep-seated longing for affection and validation, and since there is a monopoly held on that by females it's integral for men to have a female partner. It's in our instincts to desire this type of relationship and your brain will assault you with emotional pain signals the longer you are socially isolated, as this emotional pain has evolved in human beings due to their status as a social animal.

The purpose is to get relief from this pain, and for most people materialistic positions aren't too much to gamble when compared to the reward. The reward isn't tangible, but it will have a passive effect on your levels of motivation and success.
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But that's just my observation pewpew.
your responses are so high effort
good work
 
Yes they a rather substantial drain on resources, and if you don't feel like you need them in your life and are content with it you should remain as you are.

However, most men have a deep-seated longing for affection and validation, and since there is a monopoly held on that by females it's integral for men to have a female partner. It's in our instincts to desire this type of relationship and your brain will assault you with emotional pain signals the longer you are socially isolated, as this emotional pain has evolved in human beings due to their status as a social animal.

The purpose is to get relief from this pain, and for most people materialistic positions aren't too much to gamble when compared to the reward. The reward isn't tangible, but it will have a passive effect on your levels of motivation and success.
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But that's just my observation pewpew.

Based and pewpilled

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based thread.
genuine love with a beautiful and innocent girl is what I crave. however I'm fully aware this is a platonic ideal - real women are anything but loveable.
and no, this is not a cope, because I do suffer. however my suffering is not situational; it is existential. being an incel is not a sorrow: being a human male, a pathetic being who craves affection from demonic creatures known as "women", is my sorrow
also, maybe I'm indeed being hypocrital, but that's because I'm being honest. all things are inherently contradictory, accept this or die in rebellion against reality
high IQ , I like the same , genuine love with a inocent nad beautiful girl is my dream , but is imposible , I will die without that
 
Yes they a rather substantial drain on resources, and if you don't feel like you need them in your life and are content with it you should remain as you are.

However, most men have a deep-seated longing for affection and validation, and since there is a monopoly held on that by females it's integral for men to have a female partner. It's in our instincts to desire this type of relationship and your brain will assault you with emotional pain signals the longer you are socially isolated, as this emotional pain has evolved in human beings due to their status as a social animal.

The purpose is to get relief from this pain, and for most people materialistic positions aren't too much to gamble when compared to the reward. The reward isn't tangible, but it will have a passive effect on your levels of motivation and success.
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But that's just my observation pewpew.
I think part of that comes from the culture hyping up romance.
 
Cope, irl if a foid looked at you and smiled you would get oneitis.
 
your cock needs to be in a females pussy and mouth
 
i feel the same way, even if i were to spend 10k+ on surgery to become average or even maybe slightly higher, they have tinder, cuck and simp orbiters, and people in their social group/ at work who can cuck you. literally see no way to ascend in 2020 without being a legit chad. one mistake from an average man is the end of a relationship. that said, being above average means u can atleast lose your virginity if you try hard enough, but anyone can from a hooker. idk bro
 
they're in SEA
They just want you for money and a green card. And I wouldn't be comfortable dating a Asian girl knowing what ricecels go through even though I know the women don't want them.
 
They just want you for money and a green card. And I wouldn't be comfortable dating a Asian girl knowing what ricecels go through even though I know the women don't want them.
Hurr durr green card
 
I am MGTOW.

It's cool. Social mgtow is the best. Casual short term relationships if they come your way, if not, don't sweat it.

Just don't marry or cohabitate
 
Yes they a rather substantial drain on resources, and if you don't feel like you need them in your life and are content with it you should remain as you are.

However, most men have a deep-seated longing for affection and validation, and since there is a monopoly held on that by females it's integral for men to have a female partner. It's in our instincts to desire this type of relationship and your brain will assault you with emotional pain signals the longer you are socially isolated, as this emotional pain has evolved in human beings due to their status as a social animal.

The purpose is to get relief from this pain, and for most people materialistic positions aren't too much to gamble when compared to the reward. The reward isn't tangible, but it will have a passive effect on your levels of motivation and success.
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But that's just my observation pewpew.

The only benifit from a woman in your life is 3 holes and status of non-virgin. Women today are too high in SMV to go to the gym or take actual care of their looks, looking attractive is for chad only. Women are too lazy to cook and too queens to be your crying pillows.
In relationship with men, women get everything-his time, mental resources, money, his personality (trying to jestermaxxx and to care for her), his intelligence, etc
Man gets a wet ugly loose wound-shaped hole, end. From what I've heard the onahole is actually almost identical to a vagina btw.
I'd better coom in a foid and then pay alimony (I belive its something around 25% from the payment for one children),than to live with her, get cucked and divorce raped, cuz I fucking cook and clean better than almost all foids my age I knew. Fuck being 24/7 with a foid just to get a onahole on two legs pewpew.
 
Have fun raising some other guys kids
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