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Those guys aren’t real virgins in my opinion and I really hate how like half of virgins admit to having oral sex. I never had any sexual contact so this doesn’t make me feel less isolated.
RageFuel I hate it when a guy says he’s a virgin but he then says he’s had oral sex.
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at least they're honest
some people on IT had foids touching their hands by accident and say they're chads
some people on IT had foids touching their hands by accident and say they're chads
Yeah, I think they can't already be considered pure virgins. Oral (and anal too) sex is sex anyways.
I think this is the reality of many young female virgins. They might not want to put out too soon or they are scared of breaking their hymen so they just suck off guys.
It's honestly a weird classification. At lot of that talk took place during Bill Clinton's impeachment and the event of him having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. i think sex can be defined slightly differently for everyone.
For me personally, I consider losing your virginity as putting your dick into a vagina or getting some dick put in your vagina. I've never had any sexual relations with anyone at all so I would consider myself to be an Incel Virgin but even if I got a blowjob, I think I wouldn't be considered an Incel but maybe I'd still consider myself a virgin, just not to the large extent that I'm at right now.
I may be based here but that;s just my view on things that will never happen to me.
For me personally, I consider losing your virginity as putting your dick into a vagina or getting some dick put in your vagina. I've never had any sexual relations with anyone at all so I would consider myself to be an Incel Virgin but even if I got a blowjob, I think I wouldn't be considered an Incel but maybe I'd still consider myself a virgin, just not to the large extent that I'm at right now.
I may be based here but that;s just my view on things that will never happen to me.
just eat out a hooker to lose your virginity bro, and don't forget your HPV vaxx either
I disagree. Yeah if they are bragging about it than they are pieces of shit but receiving BJ doesn't make you a non virgin. If you've never penetrated pussy/ass then you're a virgin.
Yeah, it makes.
If, you force a foid to give you a BJ, its rape, so if you got a BJ, you got sex, therefor not virgin
If I got a chance to kiss a girl i'll die a happy man
Disagree. Let's say you got BJ but next day the girl ghosted you. I mean yeah you could have fucked her that day but you didn't and now you have no pussy to put your dick into. You'll still be a virgin no matter what.
There are plenty of 14-15 year old cumskin teens who've got kisses and BJ etc from their girlfriends but unless they have put their dick inside of her pussy they are still virgins, if those 14 year old teens know that then why can't you?
No, you won't, you got sex, sub5 men can't get blowjobs.
So what? Are you trying to say the are virgins or incels? They don't have anything to do with us, if one person got a blowjob, he should get the fuck out of here
It is true. But you see not all sub5 are incels and not all incels are sub5. It's not black and white. You can't simply say "oh he's not sub5 so he can't possibly be incel" without factoring in his mentality, location, standard of living etc. I mean, how can a 5.5/10 guy even get girls if he doesn't have any friends? He's not getting anything on Tinder for sure.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to say.
I respect your opinion but I disagree. I think a non sub5 male(if he's here on this forum) should only leave when he is sure he can get sex on a regular basis like with a girlfriend. I don't see why someone should leave if they get a kiss for example but then the girl ghosted him and now he's back to square one. But yes, he should be banned on sight if he brags about his experience.
Yeah, then you just want normalfags to infest the forum.
They can just go to a nightclub and approach, getting friends isn't hard, getting a gf is. Sub5s can't do nothing to leave inceldom, unless the surgerymaxx, moneymaxx or statusmaaxx, who are all extremely hard things.
Where are the sub5s who are non incel? Beside the rich and statusmaxxed ones. Every sub5 i know, is an incel
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My bro had oral sex but couldn't get an erection, so technically virgin
No, I mean how do you know everyone besides you is not a sexhaver? What if everyone except you is larping? Why do some people want to gatekeep. I say, if you break any rules then you should be banned. If you're not breaking any rules then you are pretty much one of us even if you are a soy larper because there no way to tell who's who
Lol like I said not everyone have that privilege nor the mindset. You think some 5.5/10 looking loner Aspie with social anxiety can go to a nightclub and get a girl? He would be clueless and prolly embarrass himself.
I don't know because I don't know anyone neither do I care about their sex life.
All I'm saying is that:
1.) You loose virginity only when your peener penetrates pussy
2.) Bragging sexhavers should be banned on sight.
I'm not aspie nor have social anxiety, so I can't talk much about it, but I only know that if I had 5,5, I wouldn't be incel, and mentalcels are usually fakecels, they don't get judged by their ugly faces
As a non-homosexual I understand your point. I don't consider a foid who has had oral sex to be a virgin and would prefer one who hasn't touched a dick. So I understand why you'd prefer to have gay sex with a man who hasn't had oral sex.
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I dont know. I've never considered oral to be a virginity loss. Anal...maybe but it's pretty rare for a foid to allow anal before PIV.
I think this is an argument over who's a truecel and who's inceldom might have a glimmer of hope of ascension.
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@-BrettyBoy- @JosefMengelecel @Robtical @ThoughtfulCel thoughts?
It's humble bragging. Typical of human garbage.
It's just like personalityinkwell, who mentioned on multiple occasions how he kissed and got dates but lamented about being and incel while also taking every chance he could to brag and say he was a normie.
These people are more common than you think, simply because at their root, all humans are selfish pieces of shit who get off on bragging about what they have to other people.
They then form a clique of equally shitty people to protect them, Stuff that still happens here btw
It’s sort of sex but just not actual sex I suppose.
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It’s like the people who claim to be lonely despite having friends and fun things to do
If they can get oral sex then they can get regular sex. Rosties have sex faster than they suck dick.
"I've just fucked a foid in the mouth. I'm the same as you, incels!"
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If they can get to third base, scoring shouldn’t be hard.
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Imagine you only ever got that though. Would your fundamental image of yourself as a man be fully realized if you only got reduced to oral and denied the pink?"I've just fucked a foid in the mouth. I'm the same as you, incels!"
As other people in the thread already said, if you can get this, you can get vaginal sex too.
It's honestly a weird classification. At lot of that talk took place during Bill Clinton's impeachment and the event of him having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. i think sex can be defined slightly differently for everyone.
For me personally, I consider losing your virginity as putting your dick into a vagina or getting some dick put in your vagina. I've never had any sexual relations with anyone at all so I would consider myself to be an Incel Virgin but even if I got a blowjob, I think I wouldn't be considered an Incel but maybe I'd still consider myself a virgin, just not to the large extent that I'm at right now.
I may be based here but that;s just my view on things that will never happen to me.
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Not the case. Many norms go through 'usual' development timeframes being denied vag because of preserving virginity BS which just means you aren't Chad enough to get the full deal
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Those who wait until marriage many times probably avoid oral too. And not just that, it takes lot of effort to achieve oral and if you can achieve that you can usually achieve intercourse
I've orally said sex before
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Receiving oral is considered the bigger compliment. The foid is literally pleasuring your penis in exchange for nothing. Even a beta bux can get vaginal sex at some point (for the sake of procreation/covering up that her kid belongs to Chad), but a foid needs to actually be into the dude to give oral.
"im a virgin but ive also had a girls lips wrapped around my cock teehee " , almost as fake as escortcels
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"im a virgin but ive also had a girls lips wrapped around my cock teehee " , almost as fake as escortcels
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I'm not saying anything about getting this. But no, getting oral means nothing compared to vag
But no. Foids aren't like that. Many will say and do all kinds if shit to deny PIV
Oral and anal is still something a man can do to another man
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If a woman is willing to give him oral she probably will be willing to give him PIV. Sure she might limit it to oral but eventually she the vast majority of the time will later agree to PIV.
the point is, if you can find someone who gave you oral, you can find someone who will engage in intercourse with you. If she won’t give intercourse you can easily find another woman who will
It means you're not an incel.
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So we're back to the debate of truecel vs nontruecel
I'm not speaking from experience
Just incel vs non-incel.
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Yeah, that sounds like a very narrow definition of "virgin". Also do not think it is more common to have oral sex. At least not in my country... Heard it is more normal for men to go down on women than the other way around. Just here. In every other part of the world of course it is not like that. Just here... Maybe also neighbouring countries, but you get my point.
What should be defined as a virgin anyway? Oral sex definetely crosses the line.
Hes also had dental sex
I could never figure out how to make that happen in a million years.
I'd say a real virgin never got naked with a foid and had his penis make contact with her.
nuck figgers
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Yeah, the contact criteria is probably good for definition because that includes most scenarios.
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