JFL I find it funny that the same people telling us sex isn't everything/even a big deal are nigh universally naturalists

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Now, don't get it twisted, I myself am a naturalist, but a consistent one. These people will seriously say in one conversation that they're atheists, that they believe humans are animals, that we're part of the natural world, that homosexuality is natural because it's found in many animals.

But then when we point out that mating strategy is also the same in humans as it is in animals, find the best genes + provider of resources/protection, they lose their shit and start up the magical thinking. Oh, are YOU COMPARING US to ApEs?!? But we're obviously so much higher than animals, the fact that you're comparing women to ungulates searching for the male with the largest horns is UNBELIEVABLY reductive!!! Of course sex isn't the end all be all of life despite literally everything in biology and the natural world pointing us in that direction. Don't be silly, we're RATIONAL here.

Then they go completely non-scientific which is normally sacrilege for them, and start talking about romantic love which clearly is a male-only trait and is literally a drug fuelled hysteria that we objectively know is a sexually-selected evolved mechanism to force the naturally-wild-oats-sowing males to settle down. They proceed to completely ignore the innumerable cases of females deciding by either pragmatic love which only applies to males that can provide something of value, which isn't really love at all but love of the security and dependability the non-personality related traits she chose gives her, or by straight up betabuxxing an undesirable male because she missed her window.

I think it really throws off their tiny processors and gives them error messages that the natural state of about 95%+ of mammals and certainly all extremely successful ones are patriarchal in nature. The fact that we give women rights in a completely artificial environment and that those rights would instantly be voluntarily forfeited by women in the event of catastrophe goes right over their heads, I think.

I don't know, I find it funny is all.
 
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A lot of people even when acknowledging science still are influenced by Christian doctrine that places humans above every other animal. You even see literal scientists fall into this trap a lot. I'm assuming you are mostly talking to people who come from the west, or at the very least are influenced by it. I would elab more tbh but I have been up for super long writing a giant ass fucking paper so I am giga low IQ rn.
 
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Naturalism doesn't mean you are immune to bullshit.
Most of them are just people that agreed with someone else why to accept that position.
Most humans are irrational and have very limited critical thinking skills.
 
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The same people telling us that sex isn't everything/a big deal are the same ones that shame virgins and make it a point to post about their sex life as if it means something. They contradict themselves by their own actions but think people they see as lesser should just take them at face value.
 
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I think most people are capable of brief moments of scientific and logical clarity, but they quickly forget and never act on those moments, and just continue to do what's "natural" or expected of them. Either that or it's severe cognitive dissonance, trying to reconcile cold reality with a childish "romantic" view of the world that was instilled in them since birth.

Incellectual said:
A lot of people even when acknowledging science still are influenced by Christian doctrine that places humans above every other animal. You even see literal scientists fall into this trap a lot. I'm assuming you are mostly talking to people who come from the west, or at the very least are influenced by it.
Also definitely this, no one is without bias. I find a lot of people in the western world are pretty arrogant/pretentious about the west and humanity's importance and general impact upon the natural world and universe at large.
 
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The people who tell you that you aren’t entitled to sex, that sex isn’t all that great and that sex isn't everything are the ones having sex.

Ironic.
 
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Most normies that "love the heckin science," don't actually like science. They like scientism, that is treating the words of certain, politically powerful scientists as a religious person would the words of a high priest.

The way they talk about certain things, global warming, transgenderism, reproductive rights, race, etc, is religious. Saying the wrong thing or having a slightly different take than them is blasphemy, heresy, it makes you a bad person. And the fact that heretics are forever branded, that this faith offers no way back, no forgiveness, makes it especially dangerous.
 
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ShySaxon said:
The people who tell you that you aren’t entitled to sex, that sex isn’t all that great and that sex isn't everything are the ones having sex.

Ironic.
Like telling a homeless to just get a job.
 
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ShySaxon said:
The people who tell you that you aren’t entitled to sex, that sex isn’t all that great and that sex isn't everything are the ones having sex.

Ironic.
Every single time.
 
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Humans are above animals in every way except foid sexual selection, that hasn't changed for thousands of years.
 
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In some way the people that say that are right --- sex isn't a big deal....to them, because they can acquire it so easily.