Discussion I Am Not an Economic Thinker

[Intellectual]

I studied economics for four years, and albeit one may see me as an economic person for I often discuss macroeconomic phenomena through an analytical lens, contrasting Keynesian, Austrian, and Marxist perspectives, I do not consider myself an economic person, for I do not believe economics is of primary importance. I believe the flaws of Western civilization is putting economics over other faucets of life, some of which are in my view, clearly of higher importance. Let me give some examples

>Toilets In The Workforce

Toilets working will greatly enhance productivity. Even with the inefficiency and slowdowns of affirmative action and foids unrightfully gaining progress in the corporate hierarchy, there's no doubt that we are more productive with women in the workplace than we would be if those same women stayed home. More workers = more productivity. Keep in mind a significant portion of toilets work in fast food and the service industry, somewhere I think they fit quite well, but I still disagree with the proliferation of this practice. I would much rather live in a less productive society where the women stayed home as caretakers and loyal wives than a more productive society where women competed as men as equals in the workplace, or even as superiors.

>Immigration

Immigration is undoubtably good for the economy as an aggregate. Not only does it boost net aggregate production but it boosts per-capita output. If 50% of a country's population is either too young or too old to work, and you import people of a demographic where 75% of them are within working age, the per/capita average working hours will shift upwards. This is economics, this is fact, this isn't disputed, does this mean I support immigration? No! For I believe the cultural and social elements of a homogenous society outweigh the economic benefits from mass immigration, espeically from the third world.

>>Drug Criminalization

Many people believe that legalizing and taxing drugs would be good economically, the truth is it wouldn't be. Tax revenue is the amount of tax the government collects within a fiscal period. It's not wealth, money is not wealth, currency is not wealth, currency represents the power to transfer wealth, it's filgazie it's a wazie it's a woozie it's fucking FAIRYDUST. What really matters is PRODUCTIVITY and WEALTH, not the flow of currency, and the fact remains that reducing drug consumption will enhance productivity, because drug-addicted people are rarely the most productive, and often counter-productive. Not only does a Heroin addict fail to produce, but they consume resources through other means (destructive crime, welfare, theft, etc). So drug criminalizing can be seen as economic boon, despite this, I still support drug legalization. Why? Human freedom. I believe human freedom is more important than economics, and I am willing to accept an economic sacrifice for the principles of liberty.

What does This Tell Us?​

It tells us that when IT and Foids use fallacious arguments about our ideal society, how it's unrealistic because it doesn't align with Western Economic ideas of maximum GDP growth, these are not strong arguments. These arguments are built on the fallacy of presupposition. Economics is NOT the most important goal in building a strong society, we are people, not numbers, and should be treated as such. Thank you for reading!

 

[EnglishCel]

I don't agree with drug legalisation but the rest is High IQ.

 

[RandomGuy]

 

[BataviaCel]

does this mean I support immigration? No! For I believe the cultural and social elements of a homogenous society outweigh the economic benefits from mass immigration, espeically from the third world.

didnt you praise america for its diversity and shit? whats going on here?

 

[Intellectual]

didnt you praise america for its diversity and shit? whats going on here?

Three things to note here

1) I was new to the forum when I wrote that, I was worried that if I was too open about my Liberal beliefs, I'd be warned or banned. Some mod could be quick to conflate my liberal political ideas with support of feminism.

2) That was a hypothetical argument, I was demonstrating that I could support immigration from an economic point of view, but still oppose it for political reasons. I thought how I wrote it was the best way to demonstrate the argument.

3) I knew I was veering off from my genuine beliefs when I wrote that, but I internally justified it by wording it very vague. I do support RACIAL DIVERSITY, but I don't support diversity for its own sake. I believe cultural diversity can be a good thing, but bringing in unvetted immigrants in, who could be criminals or hold radical ideologies, is not a good thing.

 

[BataviaCel]

Three things to note here

1) I was new to the forum when I wrote that, I was worried that if I was too open about my Liberal beliefs, I'd be warned or banned. Some mod could be quick to conflate my liberal political ideas with support of feminism.

2) That was a hypothetical argument, I was demonstrating that I could support immigration from an economic point of view, but still oppose it for political reasons. I thought how I wrote it was the best way to demonstrate the argument.

3) I knew I was veering off from my genuine beliefs when I wrote that, but I internally justified it by wording it very vague. I do support RACIAL DIVERSITY, but I don't support diversity for its own sake. I believe cultural diversity can be a good thing, but bringing in unvetted immigrants in, who could be criminals or hold radical ideologies, is not a good thing.

alright