Discussion How would an HTN born with the mind of a blackpilled truecel's life be like?

[WeirdPanda]

Let's say the biggest truecel alive goes through life as usual. Full of acne and large forehead, bullied as a kid, bad at sports, 5'5, wears glasses, baby face, non-nt, adhd and autistic, southeast asian ethnic, unconventional political beliefs, poor, mute/non-verbal, asthma and rhinitis, overweight, etc. By 18 years old, he was witnessed the worst that the world could offer to him. You'd think he would rope before he even reaches his 30's... Well, that didn't happen.

Instead, he just went through life, rotting until he finally had a midlife incel crisis in his 40's and decided to temporarily shut off his hate and resentment to feel a bit better by aiding people in need, doing good deeds and overall just trying to be Jesus Christ on earth because if he's gonna die a virgin he might as well die knowing that he's a good person unlike normies. However, he is still blackpilled and his personality is still repellent because women are not attracted to kindness and would reject even Jesus Christ if he had the truecel archetype. He would go on to perish at the early age of 55 from all the physical and mental tolls on his body and his terrible immune system

But the incel, through his good deeds, accumulated just enough karma to gain the admiration of God himself across all the religions of the world. His karma was so high, that God decided to give him a second chance and be born as an HTN. He would not be born as demigod on earth to rival the ancient, but attractive just enough (White, decently attractive, middle class, moderately nt, average IQ, born in a first world country with a mostly white population) to live a decent life.

However, the one thing that remained was his incel mind. He still has the same personality, the same mental problems and life experiences, the whole bundle. The only difference is that he's got more natural confidence as an effect of being moderately nt and is easily able to analyze people and fit with the group. However, will he be inclined to do that and betray the blackpill and therefore the meaning of his past life doing so? Will he still believe in the truth about foids even as an HTN, or will it slowly errode itself in an attempt to merge with the accepted ideals of society as a method of self-preservation?

So, what do you guys think would happen?

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

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[Scatius Deletus]

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[Scatius Deletus]

Let's say the biggest truecel alive goes through life as usual. Full of acne and large forehead, bullied as a kid, bad at sports, 5'5, wears glasses, baby face, non-nt, adhd and autistic, southeast asian ethnic, unconventional political beliefs, poor, mute/non-verbal, asthma and rhinitis, overweight, etc. By 18 years old, he was witnessed the worst that the world could offer to him. You'd think he would rope before he even reaches his 30's... Well, that didn't happen.

Instead, he just went through life, rotting until he finally had a midlife incel crisis in his 40's and decided to temporarily shut off his hate and resentment to feel a bit better by aiding people in need, doing good deeds and overall just trying to be Jesus Christ on earth because if he's gonna die a virgin he might as well die knowing that he's a good person unlike normies. However, he is still blackpilled and his personality is still repellent because women are not attracted to kindness and would reject even Jesus Christ if he had the truecel archetype. He would go on to perish at the early age of 55 from all the physical and mental tolls on his body and his terrible immune system

But the incel, through his good deeds, accumulated just enough karma to gain the admiration of God himself across all the religions of the world. His karma was so high, that God decided to give him a second chance and be born as an HTN. He would not be born as demigod on earth to rival the ancient, but attractive just enough (White, decently attractive, middle class, moderately nt, average IQ, born in a first world country with a mostly white population) to live a decent life.

However, the one thing that remained was his incel mind. He still has the same personality, the same mental problems and life experiences, the whole bundle. The only difference is that he's got more natural confidence as an effect of being moderately nt and is easily able to analyze people and fit with the group. However, will he be inclined to do that and betray the blackpill and therefore the meaning of his past life doing so? Will he still believe in the truth about foids even as an HTN, or will it slowly errode itself in an attempt to merge with the accepted ideals of society as a method of self-preservation?

So, what do you guys think would happen?

If smart he'll just (((REDACTED))) and ascend

 

[Balding Subhuman]

He would still be aware of how foids act and if anything, it would even further strengthen his beliefs. Going from an ugly incel to a HTN would be night and day. Most people after all, are aware of lookism, they just don't understand the extent of it. For example Trump has been on a massive dose of antiandrogenics which is why he can keep his hair like that. Most celebrities spend a lot of money on cosmetic procedures, because they know the importance of looks.

Also I don't understand how taking advantage of your looks would be 'betraying the blackpill.' Not sure what you mean by that even. I guarantee that if anyone on this forum tomorrow became attractive, they would of course use their looks to better their life. Why wouldn't they?

 

[iicc66]

Let's say the biggest truecel alive goes through life as usual. Full of acne and large forehead, bullied as a kid, bad at sports, 5'5, wears glasses, baby face, non-nt, adhd and autistic, southeast asian ethnic, unconventional political beliefs, poor, mute/non-verbal, asthma and rhinitis, overweight, etc. By 18 years old, he was witnessed the worst that the world could offer to him. You'd think he would rope before he even reaches his 30's... Well, that didn't happen.

Instead, he just went through life, rotting until he finally had a midlife incel crisis in his 40's and decided to temporarily shut off his hate and resentment to feel a bit better by aiding people in need, doing good deeds and overall just trying to be Jesus Christ on earth because if he's gonna die a virgin he might as well die knowing that he's a good person unlike normies. However, he is still blackpilled and his personality is still repellent because women are not attracted to kindness and would reject even Jesus Christ if he had the truecel archetype. He would go on to perish at the early age of 55 from all the physical and mental tolls on his body and his terrible immune system

But the incel, through his good deeds, accumulated just enough karma to gain the admiration of God himself across all the religions of the world. His karma was so high, that God decided to give him a second chance and be born as an HTN. He would not be born as demigod on earth to rival the ancient, but attractive just enough (White, decently attractive, middle class, moderately nt, average IQ, born in a first world country with a mostly white population) to live a decent life.

However, the one thing that remained was his incel mind. He still has the same personality, the same mental problems and life experiences, the whole bundle. The only difference is that he's got more natural confidence as an effect of being moderately nt and is easily able to analyze people and fit with the group. However, will he be inclined to do that and betray the blackpill and therefore the meaning of his past life doing so? Will he still believe in the truth about foids even as an HTN, or will it slowly errode itself in an attempt to merge with the accepted ideals of society as a method of self-preservation?

So, what do you guys think would happen?

There are plenty of gl people on .org who also are blackpilled with similar beliefs as us

 

[iicc66]

He would still be aware of how foids act and if anything, it would even further strengthen his beliefs. Going from an ugly incel to a HTN would be night and day. Most people after all, are aware of lookism, they just don't understand the extent of it. For example Trump has been on a massive dose of antiandrogenics which is why he can keep his hair like that. Most celebrities spend a lot of money on cosmetic procedures, because they know the importance of looks.

Also I don't understand how taking advantage of your looks would be 'betraying the blackpill.' Not sure what you mean by that even. I guarantee that if anyone on this forum tomorrow became attractive, they would of course use their looks to better their life. Why wouldn't they?

 

[WeirdPanda]

He would still be aware of how foids act and if anything, it would even further strengthen his beliefs. Going from an ugly incel to a HTN would be night and day. Most people after all, are aware of lookism, they just don't understand the extent of it. For example Trump has been on a massive dose of antiandrogenics which is why he can keep his hair like that. Most celebrities spend a lot of money on cosmetic procedures, because they know the importance of looks.

Also I don't understand how taking advantage of your looks would be 'betraying the blackpill.' Not sure what you mean by that even. I guarantee that if anyone on this forum tomorrow became attractive, they would of course use their looks to better their life. Why wouldn't they?

Perhaps that was just my subjective moral principles and bias talking. I believe that if one had a change of life they would take advantage of their social advantages to help incels gain an advantage and be heard by other people. An incel could never lead other incels to glory, but if one person that's not incel sympathized with our ideology or held a mindset similar to ours they would be able to debate and spread our views even further. Betraying would be not doing that and simply taking advantage of the system that we live in.

 

[WeirdPanda]

There are plenty of gl people on .org who also are blackpilled with similar beliefs as us

The question regards a truly blackpilled truecel. In my opinion, no one can be truly as blackpilled as the archetype of man mentioned in the post.

 

[iicc66]

The question regards a truly blackpilled truecel. In my opinion, no one can be truly as blackpilled as the archetype of man mentioned in the post.

What is the blackpill for you

 

[SupremeAutist]

There are plenty of gl people on .org who also are blackpilled with similar beliefs as us

Yeah exactly. And I don't think it really affects their life that much. If I was a blackpilled HTN I would think "that's just how the world is" and not let it affect me.

It would be letting your life enjoyment be ruined by thinking about all the starving kids in africa. I know I am privileged for being born in a first world country and being middle class but the truth is that it's hard for us to let things that don't affect us bother us so much.

 

[WeirdPanda]

What is the blackpill for you

As with all other ways of thinking, an ideology set for life that we could choose to follow and believe in or not follow and believe in. It is reinforced by the ideas spread around by people like us. But the man mentioned in the post has gone through all the experiences the blackpill expresses via lookism, the truth of being a subhuman man in an ever changing world. Sounds like pseudo-intellectual bs I know.

 

[WeirdPanda]

Another interesting twist question is what a chadlite do if they were to be born LTN (actually, scratch that, incel is better) as a result of bad karma from his previous life? It's all just speculation, really.

 

[Balding Subhuman]

Perhaps that was just my subjective moral principles and bias talking. I believe that if one had a change of life they would take advantage of their social advantages to help incels gain an advantage and be heard by other people. An incel could never lead other incels to glory, but if one person that's not incel sympathized with our ideology or held a mindset similar to ours they would be able to debate and spread our views even further. Betraying would be not doing that and simply taking advantage of the system that we live in.

I see what you mean. In all honesty, yes, it is generally admirable if a privileged person acknowledges that they have privileges and that they want to make certain problems aware, but there's no changing human nature. It doesn't matter if Henry Cavill shouts from the rooftops "if I was ugly, you wouldn't give a shit about me."

Humans are hardwired to appreciate beauty, as it represents good genetic health and thus survival of the species. People want good genes to be replicated in the human genetic pool, and they subconsciously want the bad genes out. This is also why normies and ESPECIALLY WOMEN get so mad when ugly men "speak out of place." They want ugly men to accept their genetic destiny.

In a way, normies and women see us as genetic defects and that we shouldn't reproduce. Kind of like how most people, whether they admit it or not, wouldn't like it if there were government programs set up to breed more people with disabilities. I can admit it openly, but I wouldn't want people with serious genetic defects reproducing. I don't want genuine retards to reproduce. Well that's how normies see us. You're ugly and low status, therefore normies want you to accept your place as the bottom feeder. "You don't deserve a girlfriend or intimacy" is just doublespeak for "I don't want ugly low status men like you to reproduce."

Personally I don't see good looking people not talking about the blackpill as some kind of a betrayal. Life has taught me that at the end of the day everyone is alone in this cold world, out for themselves, and I don't expect anyone to throw a lifevest for me. Just like I have walked past homeless people and those who are very misfortunate and not given them a penny, I don't expect anyone to give a penny for me either. Especially when there's no fixing this.

 

[WeirdPanda]

I see what you mean. In all honesty, yes, it is generally admirable if a privileged person acknowledges that they have privileges and that they want to make certain problems aware, but there's no changing human nature. It doesn't matter if Henry Cavill shouts from the rooftops "if I was ugly, you wouldn't give a shit about me."

Humans are hardwired to appreciate beauty, as it represents good genetic health and thus survival of the species. People want good genes to be replicated in the human genetic pool, and they subconsciously want the bad genes out. This is also why normies and ESPECIALLY WOMEN get so mad when ugly men "speak out of place." They want ugly men to accept their genetic destiny.

In a way, normies and women see us as genetic defects and that we shouldn't reproduce. Kind of like how most people, whether they admit it or not, wouldn't like it if there were government programs set up to breed more people with disabilities. I can admit it openly, but I wouldn't want people with serious genetic defects reproducing. I don't want genuine retards to reproduce. Well that's how normies see us. You're ugly and low status, therefore normies want you to accept your place as the bottom feeder. "You don't deserve a girlfriend or intimacy" is just doublespeak for "I don't want ugly low status men like you to reproduce."

Personally I don't see good looking people not talking about the blackpill as some kind of a betrayal. Life has taught me that at the end of the day everyone is alone in this cold world, out for themselves, and I don't expect anyone to throw a lifevest for me. Just like I have walked past homeless people and those who are very misfortunate and not given them a penny, I don't expect anyone to give a penny for me either. Especially when there's no fixing this.

Yes, it's true, selfishness is present in all species as a means of survival because survival is our very purpose. I was just thinking the other day too about how true equality could never exist. People like to virtue signal about it and believe in ideologies for the greater good and the prevalence of their moral wellness, but sometimes just by existing you're indirectly harming another person's life by the consumption of resources, the taking opportunities they haven't had. How would society look upon morality itself if they knew that, while they preach about so much stuff, by not doing anything they're actually harming other people?

Well, personally, I don't really like to think about this. We have a fundamental difference from other animals and we have the capacity to form bonds amongst a great collective hence this community and all other communities out there. Then there comes the problem of crime and rehabilitation which can easily revolve into reeducation, because just imagine if a collective tried to reeducate us? (as is usually the norm among normies). It isn't perfect, but I don't really think that means anything.

Incels aren't and will never be the only oppressed minority to have ever existed, so there could be change in the next few hundred years. Maybe we aren't destined to be great men who unite people, not everyone else is. But maybe someone else is, how would we know? The existence of such phenomena are what make me doubt being all out alone. For all we know, it could be a cycle of power? If it is, then how will it end? Because I do think that there are more incels nowadays than before, and growth equal more voices to be heard (unless the brainwashing techniques by the joos turn brethren into soyified men or sissies via the existence of bluepilled incels.)

All of this is just a phenomena of the present, and the post was primarily to discuss a truecel soul in the body of a great man (in this case, merely above average, but it would be the same thing and I could have put Chad instead of HTN and the point would have been made.)

Anyways, excuse my sperg rambling. Being alone for so long can only give a lot of time to ponder and all. Correct if I strayed a bit out of the point.

 

[Balding Subhuman]

Yes, it's true, selfishness is present in all species as a means of survival because survival is our very purpose. I was just thinking the other day too about how true equality could never exist. People like to virtue signal about it and believe in ideologies for the greater good and the prevalence of their moral wellness, but sometimes just by existing you're indirectly harming another person's life by the consumption of resources, the taking opportunities they haven't had. How would society look upon morality itself if they knew that, while they preach about so much stuff, by not doing anything they're actually harming other people?

These beliefs likely exist just to keep social cohesion. And in all honesty, even simply existing as a living being means that you're taking resources away from someone else. After all, most life forms need to consume other living beings just to keep staying alive.

Existence itself is suffering and taking advantage of others. Cope or rope, that's what it comes down to.