Discussion How was Justin Bieber such a heartthrob? He has no muscle and he’s like 5ft 8

[lost soul]

I was watching some old videos of him from like 2009/2010/2011 and he was quite literally a tiny manlet. He was very short and very skinny as well. He had like no muscle. And basically no facial hair either. And I remember news stories and interviews where he said he had acne trouble.

So why were foids so obsessed with him? If we go by the bodybuilder hypotheses Justin Bieber would NOT be able to defend or protect a food if Tyrone tried to force himself on her. He’s not masculine or chad like at all.

 

[Blackboy.Belgrade]

He was a pretty boy

 

[lost soul]

He was a pretty boy

Why do foids find pretty boys attractive? From a biological perspective they are not built for survival. They can’t protect and they can’t defend? Isn’t that all a foid wants? Someone to scare the incels away? Lol.

The bodyguard hypothesis?

 

[Rabbi Schneerson]

Model tier face if you say other wise you’re coping

 

[Skelly.Belgrade]

HMMMMMmmm i wonder why

 

[lost soul]

Model tier face if you say other wise you’re coping

I guess but what evolutionary advantage does a pretty face have for a guy? Don’t girls want alpha chads who will beat up the sub fives? Justin Bieber wouldn’t have been able to beat up anyone back then lol

 

[lost soul]

HMMMMMmmm i wonder why
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I mean yeah he facemoggs everyone. But his body was not chad material. He didn’t have massive muscles to fight and beat up sub fives

 

[Jud Pottah]

I guess but what evolutionary advantage does a pretty face have for a guy? Don’t girls want alpha chads who will beat up the sub fives? Justin Bieber wouldn’t have been able to beat up anyone back then lol

Its now a different timeline.

 

[Rabbi Schneerson]

pretty face

When they look at him they feel intense sexual feelings and feelings of love. The same way men lust over women facially attractive men produce those same feelings for women .

 

[Rabbi Schneerson]

Justin Bieber wouldn’t have been able to beat up anyone back then lol

You’re in denial if you think women care about body’s at all. The halo effect is so powerful that it covers everything if your face is attractive enough the dudes who have the most sex are really skin with exceptionally attractive faces.

 

[lost soul]

Its now a different timeline.

It’s only been like ten years! Do body standards really change that dramatically? Cuz they’ve gone from pretty boy boy band (late 2000s early 2010s) to basically full on bulked up massive muscle alpha chad. I mean things have completely flip flopped

 

[VideoGameCoper]

Face > everything

 

[parzival]

Face >>> everything
Muscles only enhance chad's attractiveness. Don't matter if you're ugly.

 

[lost soul]

Face > everything

But what evolutionary advantage would that have?

 

[Grodd]

Attractive face and very rich and famous

 

[Jud Pottah]

It’s only been like ten years! Do body standards really change that dramatically? Cuz they’ve gone from pretty boy boy band (late 2000s early 2010s) to basically full on bulked up massive muscle alpha chad. I mean things have completely flip flopped

The One thing that remains consistent throught time is Height

 

[lost soul]

The One thing that remains consistent throught time is Height

But Justin was like 5’8

 

[Starfish]

face above all

 

[psyop]

Thread 'Good face + short = easy ascension when young'
https://incels.is/threads/good-face-short-easy-ascension-when-young.658780/

 

[VλREN]

was quite literally a tiny manlet. He was very short and very skinny as well. He had like no muscle. And basically no facial hair either.

Am literally Justin Bieber wtf

 

[Enigmaz]

Foids like pretty boys with low T, more so the younger foids. All their sweethearts are kpop twinks.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

But what evolutionary advantage would that have?

It looks good and evoked a primal sense of desire, and is more likely to be chosen and viewed as a good trait.

Likewise, lookism over practical value is present even in car related stuff. There are many classic Chevy Chevelles still out there. Most are 2 doors. Very few 4 door versions of the same car are still around. Why is this? Both versions were of equal quality, so that is not why. The 2 doors are less practical than the useful 4 doors, so practical advantages are not why.

The real reason is looks and looks alone. Most car enthusiasts will agree that a 2 door version of almost any classic car looks better than the 4 door version. Because of this, 2 door versions were viewed with care and desire ever since new and were cared for well while 4 doors were used and abused. Then, when they make it into the junkyard and are in crappy condition, the 2 doors keep getting saved because car guys take one look at them and decide there is enough looks potential there to be worth saving. They then see a 4 door and it triggers no feelings of desire, so they walk by and it rusty away or gets crushed.

 

[Jud Pottah]

It looks good and evoked a primal sense of desire, and is more likely to be chosen and viewed as a good trait.

Likewise, lookism over practical value is present even in car related stuff. There are many classic Chevy Chevelles still out there. Most are 2 doors. Very few 4 door versions of the same car are still around. Why is this? Both versions were of equal quality, so that is not why. The 2 doors are less practical than the useful 4 doors, so practical advantages are not why.

The real reason is looks and looks alone. Most car enthusiasts will agree that a 2 door version of almost any classic car looks better than the 4 door version. Because of this, 2 door versions were viewed with care and desire ever since new and were cared for well while 4 doors were used and abused. Then, when they make it into the junkyard and are in crappy condition, the 2 doors keep getting saved because car guys take one look at them and decide there is enough looks potential there to be worth saving. They then see a 4 door and it triggers no feelings of desire, so they walk by and it rusty away or gets crushed.

That depends.
But i like your car analogy.

 

[lost soul]

It looks good and evoked a primal sense of desire, and is more likely to be chosen and viewed as a good trait.

Likewise, lookism over practical value is present even in car related stuff. There are many classic Chevy Chevelles still out there. Most are 2 doors. Very few 4 door versions of the same car are still around. Why is this? Both versions were of equal quality, so that is not why. The 2 doors are less practical than the useful 4 doors, so practical advantages are not why.

The real reason is looks and looks alone. Most car enthusiasts will agree that a 2 door version of almost any classic car looks better than the 4 door version. Because of this, 2 door versions were viewed with care and desire ever since new and were cared for well while 4 doors were used and abused. Then, when they make it into the junkyard and are in crappy condition, the 2 doors keep getting saved because car guys take one look at them and decide there is enough looks potential there to be worth saving. They then see a 4 door and it triggers no feelings of desire, so they walk by and it rusty away or gets crushed.

But human mating strategies are supposed to be ingrained in foids brains. And it’s whoever was most likely to survive back in the caveman days right?

 

[WeirdoDesperado]

Why do foids find pretty boys attractive? From a biological perspective they are not built for survival. They can’t protect and they can’t defend? Isn’t that all a foid wants? Someone to scare the incels away? Lol.

The bodyguard hypothesis?

For the same reason why many foids are kissing and cuddling eachother.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

That depends.

Looks are usually most important. A girl is gonna pick a 8/10 pretty boy that’s skinny over a 4/10 ogre, even though the ogre could protect her far better

But i like your car analogy.

Thanks. My brain thinks about everything in terms of cars because it sees cars as people since I bond with vehicles so much

 

[Fat Link]

Looks, money, status.

Biebs had all three.

He was born to be a mogger.

 

[lost soul]

For the same reason why many foids are kissing and cuddling eachother.

I thought they just did that because they were angry Chad cheated and left them? As a “fuck you” to men. Not because they actually are attracted to other women lol

 

[VideoGameCoper]

But human mating strategies are supposed to be ingrained in foids brains. And it’s whoever was most likely to survive back in the caveman days right?

Even back then, they’d probably use an ogre survivalist for an old time betabuxx, and try to get Chad on the side

 

[Castaway]

He was attractive to JBs almost exclusively

 

[VideoGameCoper]

I thought they just did that because they were angry Chad cheated and left them? As a “fuck you” to men. Not because they actually are attracted to other women lol

Foids tend to be legit bisexual fat more than men are. Men are generally very straight and don’t deviate from this, but women don’t seem to be as hardwired towards one sex. It’s weird

 

[lost soul]

Looks are usually most important. A girl is gonna pick a 8/10 pretty boy that’s skinny over a 4/10 ogre, even though the ogre could protect her far better

Thanks. My brain thinks about everything in terms of cars because it sees cars as people since I bond with vehicles so much

I have to say I appreciated your car analogy a lot. And you are correct that a lot of times people want things just because they are pretty to look at but are actually made of lesser quality

 

[copemaxx9002]

Face status NT money

 

[lost soul]

He was attractive to JBs almost exclusively

Didn’t Katy perry And a bunch of other celebrities sexually harass him on stage a few times?

 

[Faded For Her]

But what evolutionary advantage would that have?

1 - Pretty faces attract more mates. So if you want your lineage to succeed, you want it to inherit a pretty face.
2 - Social status. Have you noticed how there are much more attractive women than there are attractive men? It's easy to just go out and see a bunch of pretty women out there. Men on the other hand are mostly ugly and actually beautiful men are quite rare.
So you have a very small supply which means having such partners nets you a social status boost.
As for Justin Bieber himself, on top of being the stereotypical pretty boy, the fact that girls loved him boosted his attractiveness even further, as men are perceived as more attractive when liked by a lot of women.

 

[lost soul]

Foids tend to be legit bisexual fat more than men are. Men are generally very straight and don’t deviate from this, but women don’t seem to be as hardwired towards one sex. It’s weird

I wonder why

 

[Castaway]

Didn’t Katy perry And a bunch of other celebrities sexually harass him on stage a few times?

Wouldn’t know. I was a little kid when he was popular

 

[lost soul]

1 - Pretty faces attract more mates. So if you want your lineage to succeed, you want it to inherit a pretty face.
2 - Social status. Have you noticed how there are much more attractive women than there are attractive men? It's easy to just go out and see a bunch of pretty women out there. Men on the other hand are mostly ugly and actually beautiful men are quite rare.
So you have a very small supply which means having such partners nets you a social status boost.
As for Justin Bieber himself, on top of being the stereotypical pretty boy, the fact that girls loved him boosted his attractiveness even further, as men are perceived as more attractive when liked by a lot of women.

Ah that last part you said makes sense. There’s a name for it right? Like the halo effect or something? The more girls that are attracted to a guy the stronger it makes the attraction? It’s like they are primed for polygamy lol

 

[VideoGameCoper]

I have to say I appreciated your car analogy a lot.

Thanks. Most people get pissed when I sperg out about cars, but it’s just downright amazing and kinda scary how many parallels there are between cars’ lives and humans’ lives.

And you are correct that a lot of times people want things just because they are pretty to look at but are actually made of lesser quality

Yep. For sure. I know most people would choose a fancy looking F-150 truck over a basic work truck F-350 truck despite the F-350 having way more power and payload capacity

 

[Emba]

Am literally Justin Bieber wtf

Sing us a song

 

[andinocel]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding, birth control pills make foids lust after pretty boys - most young foids are on the pill, so go figure

 

[VideoGameCoper]

I wonder why

Not sure, but this is true from what I have seen IRL.

 

[lost soul]

Wouldn’t know. I was a little kid when he was popular

I was in late elementary and early middle school . It was absolutely beyond brutal.

 

[lost soul]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding, birth control pills make foids lust after pretty boys - most young foids are on the pill, so go figure

Really?!?!? Now THAT is a new one. Is there any proof of it though? Cuz there’s a lot of sorority sluts at my college who’s boyfriends are massive fucking football player Tyrone’s

 

[Runt171]

a food

 

[Incline]

HMMMMMmmm i wonder why
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[LUCK]

All of his fans were like 4'8 and in the 6th grade when he was still popular

 

[lost soul]

Thanks. Most people get pissed when I sperg out about cars, but it’s just downright amazing and kinda scary how many parallels there are between cars’ lives and humans’ lives.

Yep. For sure. I know most people would choose a fancy looking F-150 truck over a basic work truck F-350 truck despite the F-350 having way more power and payload capacity

I see this sometimes with clothes too. A lot of people buy really crappy Chinese made clothes that are from H and m and stuff that are very flashy and attractive. But older and more dull fabrics like wool are actually much more durable

 

[lost soul]

All of his fans were like 4'8 and in the 6th grade when he was still popular

Katy perry apparently groped his ass while on stage once. A few other celebrity women harassed him and tried to kiss him on stage too

 

[Castaway]

Not sure, but this is true from what I have seen IRL.

Pretty much all women, especially those of the younger generation, are bisexual. When I was in 9th grade, I once overheard from a group conversation that most girls have their first kiss with other girls and that girls have a preference for lesbian pornography.