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Serious How to overcome being "eye shy" ?

UglyBastard

UglyBastard

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Has anyone else struggled with maintaining eye contact with people ? Particularly in conversations. It's something I've dealt with for most of my life and would like to get better at. I'd rather be an ugly guy that can seem normal, rather than a shiffty eyed ugly, rude, weird fuck.

Anyone got any tips. Serious answers please.
 
i'm the contraty i keep eye contact too much and people find me creepy
 
@NEETAndTidy didn't you say this was a sign of Autism/Aspergers? Or social anxiety?
 
i'm the contraty i keep eye contact too much and people find me creepy

Yeah. Of course there has to be a balance. But at least you seem engaged in the convo at least for the first 30 seconds or so. Right ?
 
Yeah. Of course there has to be a balance. But at least you seem engaged in the convo at least for the first 30 seconds or so. Right ?
when you are ugly as me, people prefer to know i'm not looking at them.

why do you think i'm using a gasmaks in my avi?
 
Has anyone else struggled with maintaining eye contact with people ? Particularly in conversations. It's something I've dealt with for most of my life and would like to get better at. I'd rather be an ugly guy that can seem normal, rather than a shiffty eyed ugly, rude, weird fuck.

Anyone got any tips. Serious answers please.
yea this is a low tier symptom of minor autism I used to struggle with this you just gotta force yourself to "make eye contact" and continue doing it but then you have to make sure you aren't doing it too much eventually it will level out for you and you will begin to act more normal.
when you are ugly as me, people prefer to know i'm not looking at them.

why do you think i'm using a gasmaks in my avi?
Just thought you were a big fan of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
 
yea this is a low tier symptom of minor autism I used to struggle with this you just gotta force yourself to "make eye contact" and continue doing it but then you have to make sure you aren't doing it too much eventually it will level out for you and you will begin to act more normal.

Just thought you were a big fan of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

I don't think it's necessarily a sign of autism. Of course if you're just vacantly staring off into space without actually listening or feeling engaged in the convo than it's probably autistic. At least in my opinion. As for me. It's mostly an insecurity thing social anxiety thing. As I'm actually listening and occasionally making brief eye contact (sometimes). And it's mostly with strangers or people I'm not that comfortable with. A close friend, family member, or anybody I feel safe with and I don't act like this.
Do you masturbate to porn pretty much everyday?

Not anymore. I used to quite often years ago though. kek
 
I don't think it's necessarily a sign of autism. Of course if you're just vacantly staring off into space without actually listening or feeling engaged in the convo than it's probably autistic. At least in my opinion. As for me. It's mostly an insecurity thing social anxiety thing. As I'm actually listening and occasionally making brief eye contact (sometimes). And it's mostly with strangers or people I'm not that comfortable with. A close friend, family member, or anybody I feel safe with and I don't act like this.


Not anymore. I used to quite often years ago though. kek
Well if you want to converse with someone the first thing you should do is make eye contact and keep it occasionally losing eye contact and then engaging in it again. I used to have wicked social anxiety so I kind of know what you are going through. Everyone is a stranger when you first meet them and first impressions go a long way(especially for women first impressions are basically make or break) This eye contact thing plagued me alot in my younger years and I just kept changing my habits and now it doesn't bother me anymore. You just have to eventually just do uncomfortable things to eventually be comfortable doing them it's like playing an instrument, learning how to play a videogame etc. etc. It feels weird at first then you just begin to feel comfortable doing it. I still suck at talking to women though(in a romantic manner).
 
That's probably the biggest cause for me, first 24-48 hours after fapping to porn I can't really make or maintain eye contact with anyone and have really shifty eyes. Starts to lessen gradually after that.

I don't really see how fapping and maintaining eye contact correlate. I don't feel a sense of guilt or anything after I bust a nut. Could you elaborate more on this theory, Or is it just from personal experience ?
 
Ironically I am completely fine with holding eye contact. Its just I stumble with actually speaking. I usually say things out of context that leaves the person I am talking too in a awkward situation.
 
I'm not very accustomed to it since I rarely talk to ppl irl.
 
It's difficult, I have this problem too.
 
Well if you want to converse with someone the first thing you should do is make eye contact and keep it occasionally losing eye contact and then engaging in it again. I used to have wicked social anxiety so I kind of know what you are going through. Everyone is a stranger when you first meet them and first impressions go a long way(especially for women first impressions are basically make or break) This eye contact thing plagued me alot in my younger years and I just kept changing my habits and now it doesn't bother me anymore. You just have to eventually just do uncomfortable things to eventually be comfortable doing them it's like playing an instrument, learning how to play a videogame etc. etc. It feels weird at first then you just begin to feel comfortable doing it. I still suck at talking to women though(in a romantic manner).

Seems pretty legit. I've actually been making attempts recently to slowly force myself out the comfort zone. Earlier today I struck up a convo with my foid neighbor walking her dog. At first it was hard to maintain eye contact but after about a minute or so I started feeling comfortable with looking her in the eye while she was talking. We talk for about 15 minutes or so and the flow of conversation seemed to go pretty smoothly. Eventual I could tell that she wanted to go inside because her body language gave me cues. I then told her that I'd "let her go" and to have a nice evening .

Hopefully with practice this will become second nature. I wasn't always like this and I honestly think it's mostly a result of living Neet for so long.
 
@NEETAndTidy didn't you say this was a sign of Autism/Aspergers? Or social anxiety?
Yes. It is. For both


Also OP look at peoples noses instead. They cant tell the difference
 
Seems pretty legit. I've actually been making attempts recently to slowly force myself out the comfort zone. Earlier today I struck up a convo with my foid neighbor walking her dog. At first it was hard to maintain eye contact but after about a minute or so I started feeling comfortable with looking her in the eye while she was talking. We talk for about 15 minutes or so and the flow of conversation seemed to go pretty smoothly. Eventual I could tell that she wanted to go inside because her body language gave me cues. I then told her that I'd "let her go" and to have a nice evening .

Hopefully with practice this will become second nature. I wasn't always like this and I honestly think it's mostly a result of living Neet for so long.
You are already mogging me by approaching random foids and having it work out somewhat ok. I'm just really bad at approaching I don't have much to say because I'm trying to convey "I am interested in you and want to know more" but it never really works out because I'm really bad at romantically engaging women. I can talk to them normally like a "friend" but I suck at romancing.
 
I struggle with eye contact, but it's getting better as I become older.
Do you masturbate to porn pretty much everyday?
I masturbate daily, but just to women. Doesn't affect anything tbh.
 
You are already mogging me by approaching random foids and having it work out somewhat ok. I'm just really bad at approaching I don't have much to say because I'm trying to convey "I am interested in you and want to know more" but it never really works out because I'm really bad at romantically engaging women. I can talk to them normally like a "friend" but I suck at romancing.

Well, Obviously, I can't really give you any advice on showing romantic interest to foids. Otherwise I wouldn't be here. :feelshaha: However, I will say that I try not to impress women/girls when I talk to them anymore. Before I always had this voice in my head trying to gauge there level of attraction towards me. Now I just assume that most if not all aren't looking at me like that. It's made it much easier to actually listen and genuinely practice my conversational skills.

Also this foid was easy to talk to because we both live in the same neighborhood and there was at least a little bit of common ground and familiarity. If she was just a random, it would have been much more awkward tbh. That being said. She didn't really ask much about my personal life and mostly talked about herself so.... Still, my goal wasn't to hit on her or anything like that.
 
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You can stare in between their eyes for most of the time, but you need to stare into their eyes once in a while too. Most people won't notice the difference.
 
Eye contact is difficult for me too. It feels like people are looking into my soul.
 
I’ve always struggled with eye contact. I’m told it’s just apart of my autism though.
t. nt
 
Yes. It is. For both


Also OP look at peoples noses instead. They cant tell the difference
Definitely. Im not autistic and im sure i dont have social anxiety but its too hard for me to do eye contact tbh, i feel extra stressed bec. of it.
 
Well, Obviously, I can't really give you any advice on showing romantic interest to foids. Otherwise I wouldn't be here. :feelshaha: However, I will say that I try not to impress women/girls when I talk to them anymore. Before I always had this voice in my head trying to gauge there level of attraction towards me. Now I just assume that most if not all aren't looking at me like that. It's made it much easier to actually listen and genuinely practice my conversational skills.

Also this foid was easy to talk to because we both live in the same neighborhood and there was at least a little bit of common ground and familiarity. If she was just a random, it would have been much more awkward tbh. That being said. She didn't really ask much about my personal life and mostly talked about herself so.... Still, my goal wasn't to hit on her or anything like that.
I just really suck at reading foids sometimes I'll mistake certain things for love and be really indecisive about it maybe get rejected when I ask them out etc. etc. etc. after getting rejected I get gunshy for a few months and when it comes to romantic small talk I can't do it I don't know how and "Game™" doesn't ever fucking work because GAME™ is a fucking act and every foid has seen GAME anyway and don't give a shit about it.
Definitely. Im not autistic and im sure i dont have social anxiety but its too hard for me to do eye contact tbh, i feel extra stressed bec. of it.
You might not even be really autistic at all it's also a symptom of social anxiety(which is probably another thing that most incels suffer from and also dries up vaginas like a fucking shamwow) but it's also a symptom of autism which is what we are saying. Not saying anyone is autistic if they have eye contact issues but they could be.
 
Still hard for me tbh. Theres videos on youtube to practice eye contact. bunch of stacies look at u, blinking their eyes. Could be a good practice tool for u boyo
 
just make a point of doing it. sometimes ill just remember when talking to someone they're expecting me to look into their eyes. i do the same with posture i usually walk like the incel meme but sometimes remember to stand up tall
 
Definitely. Im not autistic and im sure i dont have social anxiety but its too hard for me to do eye contact tbh, i feel extra stressed bec. of it.
Bro, you show a lot of signs of autism..

You might just not be diagnosed.
 
I have the same problem, especially with women. I have also become more self conscious about my eyes because of atrocious eye area
 
I have the same problem with eye contact.
That's probably the biggest cause for me, first 24-48 hours after fapping to porn I can't really make or maintain eye contact with anyone and have really shifty eyes. Starts to lessen gradually after that.
This. Nofap for a few days and I find myself naturally holding eye contact even with fit Staceys (usually I feel ashamed in their presence).

Having a mentality of being honest also helps. I noticed with myself that once I made eye contact (especially with foids) I was immediately looking down (involuntarily) as if I was ashamed of something. Working out what I'm ashamed of and having a plan to overcome those things helps remove unconscious feelings of shame and improves eye contact for me but still struggle if I've fapped recently.
 
I do tbh. Try to look at the forehead, or the space in between the eyes, rather than the eyes themselves.
 
I used to have that problem.
 
In case people don't know, difficulty with eye contact is a telltale of autism, to some degree.
 

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