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Discussion How much sense does gym body cope really make if you think about it?

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Obviously, toning up (i.e. losing bf%) brings out facial features and tightens the body around the frame, which can be a lifesaver for those who have good face and frame behind kilograms of lard, but I'm not talking about that. What I'm talking about is chasing a specific physique or bodily aesthetic, whether that be the Hollywood superhero look, the classical Greco-Roman aesthetic, hulking bodybuilder look, or what have you.

You could argue that having more muscle is more masculine, more sexually dimorphic, but is dimorphism really the end-all and be-all of attractiveness?

Let's look at two other attributes that are inherently masculine: balding and beards. Although female pattern baldness does occur, mostly in older females, it's generally men who go bald. Ask yourself: how does balding affect a man's attractiveness? If you're at all familiar with the blackpill, you know that balding has a decidedly negative effect. Beards can positively affect attractiveness by hiding bad lower thirds, but in and of themselves, they're unattractive. Look at male models, for example: how many of them sport the massive lumberjack beards you see on less attractive men of a variety of stripes? Almost none. They're either clean-shaven, have a bit of stubble, or have something small and light that highlights their good features. None of them look like they could put on a red suit and star in the next Santa Claus film.

Same goes for having a gym body. If you already have a masculine face and frame, a gym body will complete the look and give you an extra edge, but if you don't, what will it really accomplish? At best, you'll create a disharmony between your unmasculine bone structure and your masculine body composition, and at worst, you'll only emphasize how ridiculous your face and frame are by getting big bulging muscles to contrast. If you have wide hips and narrow shoulders, for example, you won't accomplish much by getting super lean and jacked; all you'll do is prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are unsalvageable. If you're short, you'll just bring attention to your meager height and betray a possible Napoleon complex. If you have a feminine or highly neotenous face, the contrast between how you look above and below the neck will be too much.

Take this into account, if you're still not convinced: this is true for females as well. For example, you have one with a thin bone structure, with narrow hips and shoulders, and a somewhat masculine face; and another with wider hips, wider shoulders, and a more feminine face. Both decide to hit the gym and "bulk up". You can easily imagine what would happen: the second one would get a rounder, firmer, more visually appealing body that accentuates her femininity; and the first would look even less feminine than she did already, absolutely no better off than the second was before she ever stepped foot in the gym.

There is no gym for your face, as the saying goes. Even long-time bodybuilders like Sean Nalewanyj admit that physique is only a lesser factor in attractiveness, paling in comparison to the trinity of face, height, and frame; but do you really need decades, or even years of gym time to figure this out? Isn't it enough to simply take a look around you and see how paltry the correlation is between being fit and being successful with the opposite sex?
 
going to the gym is a huge cope if you dont have top tier muscle and frame genes, also face > everything in most cases.
If your dating life is shit before gymceling it probably wont change after gymceling
 
Huge cope, keeps me alive, but foids don't care about male effort.
Miss the old days I never got to live, in Ancient Greece, where gymcelling was admired.
 
going to the gym is good cope i think i wish i could do it but i need to wait its over
 
But from the amount of gymcel cope you talk about, you probably look like takahashi sensei
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It's a good cope but in the end it's all about the chicopill
 
It's a good cope, not like I have anything better to do as an ethnic subhuman, but gymcelling won't make you white...
 
Do you plan to post it?
I have in the past, but the mods deleted it. Selfies are against the rules. Some people here saw it before it was deleted and can confirm I have a thoroughly gymcelled body.
 
If you're one year in, and your lats/chest still no wider than hips, you might quit now, you won't look good no matter what you do

Lats vs hips
 
If you gymcel yourself why are you convincing others not to :waitwhat:
Not saying that any of your points are incorrect they're all true
 
If you gymcel yourself why are you convincing others not to :waitwhat:
Not saying that any of your points are incorrect they're all true
I genuinely and without a shred of irony lift for myself. My actual reasons are more specific and varied than just that, but they can be summed up as such.
 
I'm a narcissist.
I want to look at myself in the mirror and feel pleasure, this is all that matters for me.
 
If you gymcel yourself why are you convincing others not to :waitwhat:
Not saying that any of your points are incorrect they're all true
He wants everyone else to stop lifting so he can be stronger in comparison.
 
Gym is a good cope mostly because it keeps you healthy, it's fun, and it takes your mind off things. If I end up looking better through working out then that's a bonus
 
Why do people with anime avatars tend to secretly be chads
 
I’ve given up on everything. I’m obese maxxing and maybe I can get on “My 600lb Life” and TV show status maxxx.
Why do people with anime avatars tend to secretly be chads
Without Chad, we wouldn’t be gods.
 
Unless you do a sport it is pure cope
 
Obviously, toning up (i.e. losing bf%) brings out facial features and tightens the body around the frame, which can be a lifesaver for those who have good face and frame behind kilograms of lard, but I'm not talking about that. What I'm talking about is chasing a specific physique or bodily aesthetic, whether that be the Hollywood superhero look, the classical Greco-Roman aesthetic, hulking bodybuilder look, or what have you.

You could argue that having more muscle is more masculine, more sexually dimorphic, but is dimorphism really the end-all and be-all of attractiveness?

Let's look at two other attributes that are inherently masculine: balding and beards. Although female pattern baldness does occur, mostly in older females, it's generally men who go bald. Ask yourself: how does balding affect a man's attractiveness? If you're at all familiar with the blackpill, you know that balding has a decidedly negative effect. Beards can positively affect attractiveness by hiding bad lower thirds, but in and of themselves, they're unattractive. Look at male models, for example: how many of them sport the massive lumberjack beards you see on less attractive men of a variety of stripes? Almost none. They're either clean-shaven, have a bit of stubble, or have something small and light that highlights their good features. None of them look like they could put on a red suit and star in the next Santa Claus film.

Same goes for having a gym body. If you already have a masculine face and frame, a gym body will complete the look and give you an extra edge, but if you don't, what will it really accomplish? At best, you'll create a disharmony between your unmasculine bone structure and your masculine body composition, and at worst, you'll only emphasize how ridiculous your face and frame are by getting big bulging muscles to contrast. If you have wide hips and narrow shoulders, for example, you won't accomplish much by getting super lean and jacked; all you'll do is prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are unsalvageable. If you're short, you'll just bring attention to your meager height and betray a possible Napoleon complex. If you have a feminine or highly neotenous face, the contrast between how you look above and below the neck will be too much.

Take this into account, if you're still not convinced: this is true for females as well. For example, you have one with a thin bone structure, with narrow hips and shoulders, and a somewhat masculine face; and another with wider hips, wider shoulders, and a more feminine face. Both decide to hit the gym and "bulk up". You can easily imagine what would happen: the second one would get a rounder, firmer, more visually appealing body that accentuates her femininity; and the first would look even less feminine than she did already, absolutely no better off than the second was before she ever stepped foot in the gym.

There is no gym for your face, as the saying goes. Even long-time bodybuilders like Sean Nalewanyj admit that physique is only a lesser factor in attractiveness, paling in comparison to the trinity of face, height, and frame; but do you really need decades, or even years of gym time to figure this out? Isn't it enough to simply take a look around you and see how paltry the correlation is between being fit and being successful with the opposite sex?

Being muscular gets you more respect around men and less likely to fucked with or bullied plus it makes you healthier if you get lean.
 
Honestly just go to the gym if you wanna stay healthy, not for bitches
 
If you're one year in, and your lats/chest still no wider than hips, you might quit now, you won't look good no matter what you do

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If your ribcage isn't wider than your hips. you're seriously fucking deformed. It's rare for men to have wide hips.
 

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