Serious How many gay men are truly gay?

[black_depresso]

I’ve been wondering, do you think some men have suffered so long in loneliness and rejection, that they’ve turned gay, but not involuntarily. I think there are some men who are so iron willed, they fuck other men just for the sensation of having their dick inside someone, and by sheer willpower they mentally try to ignore the fact it’s a dude.

I think some men even suck dick and take dicks up the ass not because of true gayness, but because they just want to feel and experience sexual energy of some kind after lifelong inceldom. Maybe they’ve been so insecure with their lack of masculinity in life they want to collapse into pathetic, faggot femininity to find any ounce of meaning they can. If they can’t be masculine maybe they’ll feel better deluding themselves into thinking they’re feminine?

 

[FukFeminism]

Idk man, sounds pretty gay

 

[Carotel]

If they aren't gay they wouldn't do anything sexual with a man. Just my point of view.

 

[Handflappingcel]

it's over if you're posting in this thread

 

[Nothingness]

90 % of them chose to be gay because they could not compete for abtaining girls

 

[SlayerSlayer]

I'm pretty sure most gays are truly gay. Most already mog us, and have no fucked up social awkwardness with women. Hell, gays can be misogynist as fuck and womyn love it.

 

[ItsAllOverButTheCry]

Gays are truly gay. The ease with which these guys can get sex is mindblowing. They're gay app, grindr, works basically how men imagined Tinder would work.

 

[DerPreuße]

I think what you describe is only true, before you actually commit any gay act.
At least for most people.

The more you act like a homosexual and engage in that lifestyle, the more likely is it, that you will never be able to leave that behind.
If it's just in your head and your got corrupted into watching trap/futa/femboy porn and then come back, then I don't think you were ever gay, just confused.

But I think there is no going back, if you ever willfully let yourself get sodomized. Many gays used to be normal kids, before they got molested.

 

[Alone75]

I've read about guys who don't identify as gay going with other guys because it's easier than getting sex with women and requires less social skills, Men who have sex with men (MSM). They just want the release, to pump and leave, or suck dick [no kissing though I'm not gay].

I dunno sounds like cope to me, their must be some sexual attraction. I'd rather stay fapping than go that route personally.

 

[RollD20]

No clue. I have never spoken with an actual gay person. Tbh as a kid I just thought they lived in some mostly closed off neighbourhoods, never really interacted with them.

 

[Sans]

25!

 

[Deleted member 18912]

Molested boys are a requirement for their gayness.

Pray The Gay Away.

 

[UglyScotsman]

Gays tend to be low inhib, sociable extroverts even the ugly ones. And I've noticed a lot of gays tend to be very good looking (no homo) its genuinely unusual to find a sub 5 gay. I think there must be a genetic link there between what makes you gay and looks, cause a lot of gay men on average look a bit more feminine just like dykes look more masculine.

I knew two gays irl, fags have the craziest sex and party lives imaginable, they even mog Chad and stacey party lives. They sold me some great drugs. (no degeneracy)

 

[Lifeisbullshit95]

TITLE.

 

[muharremabi]

 

[TheGambler2]

Idk you have to be really pathetic to have sex with a guy as a straight male.You can just use your hand ffs

 

[Mainländer]

I guess the more feminine/histrionic ones and the ones who are willing to really cut their dicks off are. The rest are probably mostly coping or are at the very least bisexuals.

 

[Deleted member 19457]

Idk you have to be really pathetic to have sex with a guy as a straight male.You can just use your hand ffs

What about those dudes in prison?

 

[black_depresso]

Regarding your signature

Ive always had a chin like the rightmost pic of the guy. Even when I was 10 I had a visibly receded chin. So, i dont understand how you can have good chin then mouthbreathe into a destroyed lower third in your late teens, cos its ALWAYS been shit for me

 

[TheGambler2]

What about those dudes in prison?

idk about how many people do that in prison.some former inmate on youtube said it was very rare and it is more a myth/meme

 

[masterwizard]

Depends, because technically sexuality is a spectrum where most people are fairly heavily weighted in one corner, if not entirely. E.g. 95% straight but bicurious.

I bet if you are a genuinely fully bisexual, and an average man, you wind up just being gay because no woman wants you.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

90 % of them chose to be gay because they could not compete for abtaining girls

And most females choose to be lesbian due to very high standards

 

[DarkLion]

In ancient greece being bisexual was the norm, therefore I believe that anyone can be taught to feel attraction to the same gender while it's impossible to teach someone to not be attracted to the gender that they are biologically attracted to.

Like, if hypothetically from an early age a normal boy was taught to be gay: yes, he would probably like men, but the moment he sees a naked woman his dick would get hard anyways regardless of his upbringing, it's simply his instincts. The same way people who are born gay never become straight even being taught from an early age that they should marry the opposite gender.

But then why do gays even exist? By that logic all people that are born gays would turn out to be bisexuals since they are taught from an early age to like women. Well, even if they start liking women, it's usually less than they like men, since the latter is innate to them and they choose that path in life, label themselves as gay and convince themselves that they have 0 attraction for women, when in reality if they really tried they could probably feel attraction to women. In the past most gays had wives and nuclear families and lived in the closet, they were still attracted to their wives, it's not like sex with their wives was gross and/or completely stale, it was okay. It's just that they knew deep down that they wanted to be fucking guys instead, that it would feel better for them. And nowadays with mainstream media approving their sexuality they are all coming out and labelling themselves as gay and deciding that they won't feel attracted to women, cause they don't want to and don't have to in today's society.
The guys who become gay in jail are a prime example of that. Out of pure desperation and lust they decide to throw away their upbringing and just fuck whatever is available just for the carnal needs. They weren't born gays and wouldn't become bisexuals normally if they didn't feel the need. But they did feel a very strong need and developed an attraction for the same gender. But of course, they will still always be attracted to women.

Bottom line: You can't be taught to dislike what you like. But you can be taught to like what you disliked.

 

[jackwolfskin999]

isnt it fact that Americans have the most gays per captia(twice that of most European countries)? I think therefore environment does play a factor the gayer the culture the gayer the people
also its a fact that most women have the potential to do bisexual acts, I think sexuality is not as fixed as some would like to believe

 

[Ugly_equals_Death]

Not a single one

 

[frustratedhapa]

Someone must be at least bi to be willing to have sex with a man. So I disagree with you there. Because I am repulsed by men and would never ever go gay no matter how desperate I was. However, I do think there are men out there who are bisexual but more on the straight side who have been rejected by women so many times that they end up exploring their gay side. I think bi-curious men are more common than we think. I remember reading a study once where they took a bunch of straight men and put these things on their dicks to measure their erections and they made them watch gay porn and most of the men had some kind of reaction to the stimuli meaning they got turned on by the gay porn. So I think there are probably tons of men out there who are mostly straight but bi-curious and are forced to be gay out of desperation.

 

[zangano1]

Most of them are coping

 

[Looksmaxxcel]

I’ve been wondering, do you think some men have suffered so long in loneliness and rejection, that they’ve turned gay, but not involuntarily. I think there are some men who are so iron willed, they fuck other men just for the sensation of having their dick inside someone, and by sheer willpower they mentally try to ignore the fact it’s a dude.

I think some men even suck dick and take dicks up the ass not because of true gayness, but because they just want to feel and experience sexual energy of some kind after lifelong inceldom. Maybe they’ve been so insecure with their lack of masculinity in life they want to collapse into pathetic, faggot femininity to find any ounce of meaning they can. If they can’t be masculine maybe they’ll feel better deluding themselves into thinking they’re feminine?

I would say trap lovers are one of the only truly gay men because they actually enjoy having sex with the trap. Even though some traps look like actual females, it's still gay because they're thoroughly enjoying having sex with another male. Other truly gay men are men who genuinely feel attraction towards men, which is also gay because men are obviously males.

 

[ShyManlet]

Ive read some stories about rich men that couldve gotten 10/10 personal concubines, but ended up molesting boys or fucking traps and shit.
Also, read that in olden times before the word 'homo' was even invented, pederasty (men having sexual relations with boys / teenage boys) was VERY commonly practiced, and pretty sure those men can marry prime 13yo girls or even just buy some slave girl to do whatever he wants with em.
Even in muslim parts of the world, where being homo have severe consequences, a lot of men still practice homosexuality / pederasty.

I dont think its the lack of women, I know people gonna side eye me, but I think being gay is just natural tbh, however disgusting and wrong that sound. I think the reason even more men aint homo is cause theres a stigma on it now.
I also read some time ago that most women are Bi, not straight, guess the reason why they we dont see more lesbians is cause womens libido are low, so thats why theyre not so curious about sleeping with other women. And satisfied just sexing w men. Unlike us, whos curious to put our dick in everything..

Also read in a forum that some dude go gay just cause fucking men got him curious cos its forbidden, he end up liking it, and so he continues fukking men, kinda like why a lot of people like incest porn you know...just my opinion

 

[Marquis de Sade]

If a guy bi then maybe they go full gay cause its easier to get with men than with women. But I'd be very surprised if folks just become gay. Personally speaking i think its revolting. Nothing against gays but it sounds fucking grim.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

I think the majority brainwash themselves to become gay, because the number of gays nowadays is very high, even some ppl I interacted with the last year were concern about the high ratio of gay men. That and the estrogen in the water and feminism in the school.

 

[78980n]

If any of us were gay (truly gay not coping) we would probably not be incel