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By the title I mean that before I had accepted my situation as it was, I considered myself a natsoc and I engaged with that community (spoiler: The online nazi community is degenerate as fuck), but being an incel made me understand a different viewpoint.

Expanding on the metapost by manline (check it out here https://incels.is/threads/nothing-n...hery-of-teenage-girls-in-nazi-germany.311263/ )

The nazi/fascist ideology is just chad-worship, and the bitter fact is most white incels have more in common with the niggers and spics on the forum than we do with the stereotypical 'aryan chad'.

Now a lot of people may think this is against JBW, but I take issue with JBW as a concept and I'll explain why. JBW doesn't work in of itself, if you accept JBW then you also need to believe that all incels who are white are simply fakecels but I don't think anyone wants to make that argument.

"Bro just be white, and also 6'0+ and handsome" Ok, couldn't you be black, 6'0 and handsome and still slay? There is no racial glass ceiling for getting pussy, it doesn't boil down to skin color in the west. JBW proponents often cite the statistics of racial preferences among women, and the inceldom of ER.

The fact is that ER was a mentalcel and if he had a different personality he could've ascended with a becky, a lot of us here would kill to look like ER did and have the financial resources/connections that he did by birth privilege, race had very little to do with his inceldom. Furthermore, racial preference stats mean very little if you're sub-5'10/unattractive facially, JBW isn't a get out of jail free card.

TLDR: Ethnicels and Whitecels are in the same exact boat, chad-worship as an ideological framework is cucked, and JBW is based on a lot of shaky data.

I've said my piece, chrissy
 
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JBW is an exaggeration like most concepts in the manosphere but that doesn't mean it's not legit. :feelsseriously:

White men have the highest SMV of all races.
That doesn't mean that a subbar looking white guy can't be incel, but even then, he has higher chances to ascend than a subbar looking ethnic.
 
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JBW is real but definitely exaggerated. For e.g., a 65th percentile cumskin vs a 65th percentile rice or curry - 99% of dumb racist fucking foid trash would take the cumskin only - especially rice and curry foids.

That said, normies need to stop conflating JBW with white supremacy. JBW is calling foids white supremacists.
 
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IncelGolem said:
JBW is real but definitely exaggerated. For e.g., a 65th percentile cumskin vs a 65th percentile rice or curry - 99% of dumb racist fucking foid trash would take the cumskin only - especially rice and curry foids.

That said, normies need to stop conflating JBW with white supremacy. JBW is calling foids white supremacists.
normies aren’t conflating, they’re deliberately misrepresenting
 
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Nah, jbw is law
 
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Copexodius Maximus said:
normies aren’t conflating, they’re deliberately misrepresenting
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JBW is cope if you are from any European country lmfao
 
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JBW might work in USA where there is more ethnic diversity, in my country being white is not an advantage because everybody is white.
 
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IncelGolem said:
JBW is real but definitely exaggerated. For e.g., a 65th percentile cumskin vs a 65th percentile rice or curry - 99% of dumb racist fucking foid trash would take the cumskin only - especially rice and curry foids.

That said, normies need to stop conflating JBW with white supremacy. JBW is calling foids white supremacists.
Well yeah if you take your average white normie and a black normie, a white foid will choose the white normie. I guess you can say that's JBW but how the hell does that apply to us though. While I won't sit here and call us "HUMAN TRASH" like that faggot simp who got banned earlier, we're definitely not the guys who women will take over anybody. The only conceivable way a white foid will take a whitecel over an ethnic is if the ethnic is also an incel.
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JBW might work in USA where there is more ethnic diversity, in my country being white is not an advantage because everybody is white.
You'd think that, but again JBW only works if it's a whitecel vs an ethnicel, and that never happens because foids have access to chad/chadlite dick on speedial through dating services/literally walking around.

JBW is misinterpreted but I think a lot of it's misinterpreted here, a lot of what I'm saying is in direct response to that one thread by the banned glowie in which he postulated that all whites cannot be incel or something like that.

White incels are not fakecels, we're just the proof that JBW doesn't extend to our community.
 
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"I now believe that race isn't real, white genocide isn't happening, and that the holocaust was real and Hitler was wrong about everything"

"What changed my mind was when I finally realized that a ugly white male will struggle to attract women. This blew all the racist conspiracy theories right out of the water and now I am deradicalized"
 
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Rangercel said:
Well yeah if you take your average white normie and a black normie, a white foid will choose the white normie. I guess you can say that's JBW but how the hell does that apply to us though. While I won't sit here and call us "HUMAN TRASH" like that faggot simp who got banned earlier, we're definitely not the guys who women will take over anybody. The only conceivable way a white foid will take a whitecel over an ethnic is if the ethnic is also an incel.

You'd think that, but again JBW only works if it's a whitecel vs an ethnicel, and that never happens because foids have access to chad/chadlite dick on speedial through dating services/literally walking around.

JBW is misinterpreted but I think a lot of it's misinterpreted here, a lot of what I'm saying is in direct response to that one thread by the banned glowie in which he postulated that all whites cannot be incel or something like that.

White incels are not fakecels, we're just the proof that JBW doesn't extend to our community.
I specifically said "especially rice and curry foids" for a reason. JBW is tied to SEAmaxxing.

I'm not going to go through Incel 101 for you, graycel. :feelsjuice:
 
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IncelGolem said:
I specifically said "especially rice and curry foids" for a reason. JBW is tied to SEAmaxxing.

I'm not going to go through Incel 101 for you, graycel. :feelsjuice:
I know what SEAmaxxing is, but unless you're someone with means then taking a prolonged vacation to an asian country for pussy isn't in the cards for you.

And even if it were, is it really as easy as it is described? I'm not completely certain about the SEAmaxxing thing, but it's something that I should probably look into yeah.
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"I now believe that race isn't real, white genocide isn't happening, and that the holocaust was real and Hitler was wrong about everything"

The incel community has changed my mind everyone.
No that's not what I'm saying at all, race + white genocide are real and we all know who's behind that. I'm simply calling the chad-worship into question, along with the promiscuity of the era in which the Reich presided over.
 
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I'm simply calling the chad-worship into question, along with the promiscuity of the era in which the Reich presided over.

Hitler was a eugencisist and there is nothing wrong with worshipping Beauty and exceptionalism. This is the hallmark of healthy societies.

Worshipping ugliness, mediocrity and deviancy is the a hallmark of a liberal Jewish society which was Weimar was before Hitler came along and what we have today.
 
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Hitler was a eugencisist and there is nothing wrong with worshipping Beauty and exceptionalism. This is the hallmark of healthy societies.

Worshipping ugliness, mediocrity and deviancy is the a hallmark of a liberal Jewish society which was Weimar was before Hitler came along and what we have today.
So, where does that leave us then?
 
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Stopped reading at 'jbw is bullshit', ok then go become an indian
 
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curryboy420 said:
Stopped reading at 'jbw is bullshit', ok then go become an indian
HOOMASAYAH OOO YAYA OOOOM GADDA PADANYA OOOOOM

There, I'm officially an indian.
 
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Rangercel said:
So, where does that leave us then?

Ask yourself that question. I'm not the one who abandons my beliefs so lightly. Go ahead and "emrbace" your non-white incel brothers but just know they hate you because you're white and they dont share any of your views on race, white replacement, or the JQ. So I don't understand the purpose of your capitulation. It's kind of pathetic, tbh.
 
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the3rdwill said:
"I now believe that race isn't real, white genocide isn't happening, and that the holocaust was real and Hitler was wrong about everything"

"What changed my mind was when I finally realized that a ugly white male will struggle to attract women. This blew all the racist conspiracy theories right out of the water and now I am deradicalized"
 
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the3rdwill said:
Ask yourself that question. I'm not the one who abandons my beliefs so lightly. Go ahead and "emrbace" your non-white incel brothers but just know they hate you because you're white and they dont share any of your views on race, white replacement, or the JQ. So I don't understand the purpose of your capitulation. It's kind of pathetic, tbh.
I haven't abandoned them, but I've been forced to come to terms with the contradictions within them. There is an argument to be made about soyciety being the driving force for all of this, but again take a look at the post I linked explaining the degeneracy going on within the Reich, how about you respond to that.

I'm trying to figure out my, and by extension our place within that movement.
 
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literally everyone is degenerate so i don't understand your argument about some communities being degenerate

just don't talk to feds

if you still want to give a chance to not being a deracinated cuck, try gameruprising
 
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Rangercel said:
I haven't abandoned them, but I've been forced to come to terms with the contradictions within them. There is an argument to be made about soyciety being the driving force for all of this, but again take a look at the post I linked explaining the degeneracy going on within the Reich, how about you respond to that.

I'm trying to figure out my, and by extension our place within that movement.

Degeneracy has always existed and a little bit of it isn't a big deal. The Nationalist Socialists did not encourage degeneracy. And none of that even matters today. Nationalist Socialism isn't even a thing. The most important issue that all of the dissident right agrees on is that White countries should stay White.
 
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Degeneracy has always existed and a little bit of it isn't a big deal. The Nationalist Socialists did not encourage degeneracy. And none of that even matters today. Nationalist Socialism isn't even a thing. The most important issue that all of the dissident right agrees on is that White countries should stay White.
Yeah I agree with that, white countries need to remain white. We need to ensure that our race survives
 
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IncelGolem said:
JBW is real but definitely exaggerated. For e.g., a 65th percentile cumskin vs a 65th percentile rice or curry - 99% of dumb racist fucking foid trash would take the cumskin only - especially rice and curry foids.

That said, normies need to stop conflating JBW with white supremacy. JBW is calling foids white supremacists.
 
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Mentalcel is a myth
Ugliness causes mental illness
ER lived in California. He was ugly by the standards there.
His school mates were all white blondies
He couldn't feet with them
This caused him mental disorders
He started hating himself and everyone around
 
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Rangercel said:
Yeah I agree with that, white countries need to remain white. We need to ensure that our race survives
"We need to ensure that our race survives"

First reason why it will not survive, you have to make sure your genes survives, having other way of thinking means you are genetic dead end.

This sacrifice for the good being of other people (muh white race) will just make less probable to pass on your genes succesfully to the future, first reason why whites mass imported inmigrants, refugees and the like.

"We are alturistic but we just have to stop in our race" even if it is someone from your "race" you will be still giving up time and resources for other people's sake.

Your race is your family and your wife's family if she gives you a children.

What's even the fucking point of making sure the white race survives if you aren't even going to be part of it as incel.
 
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the3rdwill said:
"I now believe that race isn't real, white genocide isn't happening, and that the holocaust was real and Hitler was wrong about everything"

"What changed my mind was when I finally realized that a ugly white male will struggle to attract women. This blew all the racist conspiracy theories right out of the water and now I am deradicalized"
:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
 
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Rangercel said:
The nazi/fascist ideology is just chad-worship, and the bitter fact is most white incels have more in common with the niggers and spics on the forum than we do with the stereotypical 'aryan chad'.

I made a post about the chad-worshiping nature of fascism and how the core of the ideology is esentially incelphobic: https://incels.is/threads/fascism-anti-semitism-and-incelphobia.312153/

Of course, i got criticized by the sfcels on this forum, but most of them are low iq pricks so that was acceptable.

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Now a lot of people may think this is against JBW, but I take issue with JBW as a concept and I'll explain why. JBW doesn't work in of itself, if you accept JBW then you also need to believe that all incels who are white are simply fakecels but I don't think anyone wants to make that argument.

"Bro just be white, and also 6'0+ and handsome" Ok, couldn't you be black, 6'0 and handsome and still slay? There is no racial glass ceiling for getting pussy, it doesn't boil down to skin color in the west. JBW proponents often cite the statistics of racial preferences among women, and the inceldom of ER.
JBW applies in a lot of circumstances, it´s particularly important for low-tier normies and above. In this sense, JBW as a way of ascending is just exclusive to nearcels, not truecels.
 
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JBW 100% is real. A 3/10 white will always mog a 3/10 non-white. Simple as.


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normies need to stop conflating JBW with white supremacy.
Except that is exactly what JBW is. Having colored eyes, light skin, tall height, and good hair are all desirable.
 
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Except that is exactly what JBW is. Having colored eyes, light skin, tall height, and good hair are all desirable.
JBW = white men are preferred BY FOIDS aka the 'hitler gender'
White Supremacy = white men are superior, inherently

There is a big fucking difference you neuron-deficient 'tard. Just because I believe JBW is at least somewhat true doesn't mean I'm a white-supremacist curry. It means I'm pissed at white-worshipping curry foids.
 
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Drugs deradicalized me, tbh.
 
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JBW is just be nordic, nordics are literally the chad phenotype, mediterraneans and slavs are barely above other races.
 
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Rangercel said:
if you accept JBW then you also need to believe that all incels who are white are simply fakecels
Wrong, you seem to be strawmanning JBW

JBW doesn't mean that - "every white guy can 100% get a girlfriend"

JBW means that the default/innate traits of being a white man is the optimum starting point in the realm of looks, and anything added onto that is a plus, this goes double if you target "ethnic" women as a group, and quadruple if you target the asian ethnicity exclusively

Being a white 5/10 makes you rank higher than an Asian 5/10 or Black 5/10 or Indian 5/10, etc, you are basically a 6 in comparison to all those men, especially to their own race of women

To deny this is to deny statistics because "well I FEEL like its wrong"

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=420LtdfGSt8

 
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240iq said:
JBW is just be nordic, nordics are literally the chad phenotype, mediterraneans and slavs are barely above other races.
Teracope you fucking retard, how about you plead with SergeantIncel @SergeantIncel for a namechange into 24iq.

Yeah we have moggers here but nordics have the same Chad distribution as the other races.
 
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Teracope you fucking retard, how about you plead with SergeantIncel @SergeantIncel for a namechange into 24iq.

Yeah we have moggers here but nordics have the same Chad distribution as the other races.
explain to me why all countries are literally obsessed with nordics then, in places like brazil or japan blonde hair or blue eyes is a 2 point halo.
there are ugly nordics but they're highest SMV phenotype on earth.
 
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JBW has always been a cope for low IQ cels.
 
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jbw works in literal genetic failed states like SEA, totally WORTHLESS in the west.
 
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Rangercel said:
Well yeah if you take your average white normie and a black normie, a white foid will choose the white normie.
You're forgetting the other major component of JBW. Foids of ALL races will choose the white normie. Even black foids.
The only reason black women have the lowest rate of interracial dating is because white men don't want them.
 
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Denying JBW or minimizing it is pure whiteoid cope. Most likely if you are white you are 6'0" ± 3", as per the dick length survey not many of us suffer from under 6" dick. So you already have two points on your smv score. Unless you have the face of a pedophile a small dick and short you are just coping with your "subhumanity".

On the other hand, as ethnic you are most likely short, and if asian you have a small dick. If you are tall and have a big dick then you are not an incel.

Also yes new nazis are degenerate as shit but that is old. They were degenerates since ww2 but that applies to everyone world wide. It is illogical to call yourself superior when you are an obese landwhale with preexisting conditions that does couple swinging and has degenerate tattoos with 14/88 and other nazi shit. The point is that whites have gotten to a point that they are not killing themselves in mass over stupid on the street.
 
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Detro said:
You're forgetting the other major component of JBW. Foids of ALL races will choose the white normie. Even black foids.
The only reason black women have the lowest rate of interracial dating is because white men don't want them.
I find it weird that people are still arguing that JBW isn't a fact when we have an entire racepill section already proving it to be true:
 
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I find it weird that people are still arguing that JBW isn't a fact when we have an entire racepill section already proving it to be true:
There's also sections about NTness, dark triad (charisma basically) and yet 2 of my 4 warnings are from talking about it.
 
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Asian women crave white cock, all races of foids are raised to respect the white man, and be nice to white men because everyone believes that white men have lots of money. Nigger foids hardly count, because white men who aren't race traitors would never look twice at a niggress.
 
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stravinsky said:
Teracope you fucking retard, how about you plead with SergeantIncel @SergeantIncel for a namechange into 24iq.

Yeah we have moggers here but nordics have the same Chad distribution as the other races.
That guy is mad. South Europeans have lot of gl men.
 
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the3rdwill said:
"I now believe that race isn't real, white genocide isn't happening, and that the holocaust was real and Hitler was wrong about everything"

"What changed my mind was when I finally realized that a ugly white male will struggle to attract women. This blew all the racist conspiracy theories right out of the water and now I am deradicalized"
just want a qt white gf before they get bred out of existence :cryfeels:
 
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IncelGolem said:
JBW = white men are preferred BY FOIDS aka the 'hitler gender'
White Supremacy = white men are superior, inherently

There is a big fucking difference you neuron-deficient 'tard. Just because I believe JBW is at least somewhat true doesn't mean I'm a white-supremacist curry. It means I'm pissed at white-worshipping curry foids.
"White Supremacy = white men are superior, inherently"

They are. Why deny it at this point? 95% of the modern world was made by NW Europeans. The closer you are to that area of the world, the better. Race is real. I'm Iraqi, but most of my family is so white that we have pink skin, even the darkest people in my family have light brown skin. Even if you look up Iraqi politicians, you will see MANY of them have white skin or pink skin. Not saying that all browns are inherently inferior, because my dad is brown-skinned and he is a dentist, but the correlation is definitley there.

Look at all these highclass Iraqis. Do they look like the average hooke-nosed Iraqi Arab? Not even close. Most of them have pink or light brown skin or reddish-brown skin. The old man with blue eyes is even a billionare.

 

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