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This will be my last post on this forum.

Recently, I have been taking actionable steps towards ascension and, after months of trial and error, I have finally been able to have sex with a woman. I am now in a relationship.

I wanted to share some words of advice with you to help you achieve what I have.

I am well aware many of you will refute my points, but I hope a small few of you will implement them to improve your dating life.

1. Choose Your Target Carefully

As we all know, most women in the modern era tend towards casual bar hookups with conventionally attractive men (Chads) in their youth then settle for a beta provider later on. This is undesirable, of course, because this type of woman is much more likely to cheat on you and exploit you for her own gain.

However, there are still some women out there who live semi-traditional lifestyles, are not very promiscuous, and would settle for a normal person.

The trick is to choose your target carefully.

If the woman you desire has any of the following characteristics, it is unlikely she would be a good fit for a long-term relationship and it is unlikely she would be a good fit for an incel:
  • Tattoos
  • Slutty dressing (showing cleavage, midriff, ass)
  • Posts her body on social media
  • Excessive piercings
  • Drinks and parties on the weekends
  • Is openly progressive (Ukrainian flags, 2SLGBTTQQIAAP+ rainbow, wears a mask etc.)
  • Fake nails/blonde-dyed hair
  • Older
Tattoos

On the flip side, if the woman you desire has some or all of the following characteristics, she could be a potential match/unicorn for an incel:
  • Dresses modestly/semi-modestly
  • Introverted
  • Conservative values (religious, republican etc.)
  • Intelligent
  • Within your proximity (goes to your college, works at your company etc.)
  • Younger
No tattoos


Even though you still may face rejection, choosing the right girl to approach is absolutely essential to ensuring your long-term success with her - so choose wisely.

2. Approach Indirectly

Most modern-day pickup and dating books advise men to approach women directly by immediately complimenting them, then asking for their number.

This is a terrible strategy and will most certainly lead to consistent rejection if you do not have the looks of a Chad or high socioeconomic status. For example, u/kj9876543 on Reddit reported approaching 1000+ girls using the direct approach method and only going on one date (no sex).

Screenshot 2023 10 01 124655


Instead, you must approach women indirectly under the guise of a casual conversation. Very few women will outright reject a seemingly friendly conversation with another person and, if she does, she probably would not be a great partner anyways.

Ask her a question about something happening around your local area, ask for her opinion on something you are struggling to understand, ask for advice, talk about your shitty professor/boss, talk about her outfit, talk about the weather today etc.

Then, once you have built up some rapport, you can start to make a move for her contact information, a date and eventually more.

The key here is to be creative in how you start the conversation while keeping it natural. You will have to find a balance between not being a :feelsclown: and not being too boring.

3. Lead the interaction

Once you start the interaction, the next key step is to slowly lead it towards where you want it to go while maintaining natural conversation.

This may seem difficult in theory but, in reality, it is quite simple as long as you have a plan in your head.

There are four major areas you will want to lead the interaction:

Number Close

Example: Somewhere within the conversation, bring up the topic of social media.

If the woman lets it slip that she has an account on a particular social media platform, ask her for her handle. After a while of messaging her on that platform, ask for her number.

If she does not have any social media, you can directly ask for her number.

Date Close

Example: After you have been talking for a while and you have the woman's number, casually ask her to hang out somewhere you suspect you would both enjoy.

If you are able to secure the date, move the woman around to a few different locations to try and maximize the amount of time you spend with her.

Kiss Close

Example: Once you are comfortable with the woman and are in a semi-private area, you can make a move towards kissing her for the first time.

If you are uncomfortable kissing her after the first date, wait a few dates then make your move.

If you are uncomfortable leaning in to kiss her because you fear rejection, ask her "do you want to kiss?" first.

Sex Close

Example: Finally, after you have gotten the girl's number, have taken her on a date(s) and have kissed her, it is time to make a move towards sex.

Like with before, do not directly ask the woman for sex but instead ask if she wants to go back to your place to look at something or hang out closer near your area.

Having the right logistics (step 5) set up so that you can have sex with the girl is paramount for this last step.



Constantly leading the conversation is not very hard in practice if you know what you are doing but it is necessary if you want to find success with your target beyond simple friendship.

4. Have Aspirations Beyond Having Sex

Most of the advice I have offered so far is not very complicated and are the very basics for successful seduction.

However, what will set you apart from the rest of the other guys is having aspirations beyond sex.

This can be moneymaxxing, gymmaxxing, something you are extremely passionate about outside of your main career, or even inceldom/the blackpill itself.

Having greater aspirations beyond sex and openly talking about them will allow you to keep the girl enthralled while the conversation seamlessly moves along.

If you are moneymaxxing, talk to the girl about the various strategies you are using to get wealthy and keep the conversation mostly on that topic, delving into small talk when necessary.


If you are gymmaxxing talk to the girl about the strategies you are using to get jacked and invite her to the gym. If you have another hobby, pivot the conversation towards that.


As I mentioned before, even your inceldom itself can be used to carry along the conversation and show depth in your character.

Respectfully, mentioning and talking about blackpill concepts in plain language like the lookspill, heightpill, racepill, dark triad, dickpill or even the dogpill will, at the very least, lead to stimluating conversation. While you are at it, ask the woman if she has an incel fetish and let me know what she says.


In the end, your ambitions and goals will act as your trojan horse towards sex.

5. Logistics Are Important

An often overlooked but important roadblock you will face if you try to pursue women is, perhaps surprisingly, logistics.

As you lead the interaction forward, ensure you have the following properly set up:
  • A phone number/social media accounts (younger women seem to prefer Instagram, Snapchat, and TikTok)
  • Potential date locations (parks, cafes, bars, clubs, restaurants, libraries, art galleries, museums, etc.)
  • Safe sex tools (condoms, lubricant, birth control, plan-b pills)
  • A place to go back to for sex (Your house/apartment, a hotel/motel room, a car etc.)
  • Transportation
  • And so on ...
The better prepared you are for the interaction you have with the woman, the smoother it will go. It is better to overprepare when it comes to logistics than to underprepare.

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6. Use Escorts to Reduce Neediness

One piece of advice hardly anyone else will give you is to see escorts (escortcelling) before you interact with civilian women.

If you are an incel who has never experienced the physical act of sex, you will likely be extremely nervous when conversating with girls.

Seeing a few escorts beforehand can give you an idea of what sex feels like and how it works in real life (spoiler alert: it's not too far outside of what you would expect).

Once you are comfortable with how sex works and the physical act, you will focus less on obtaining it and will naturally exude less neediness when talking to girls.

Obviously, going to see an escort (especially in a Western country) is a lot easier said than done, so here are some tips:
  • Finding the escort: Use sites like Reddit to find safe forums and websites with escort listings around your area (e.g. tryst.link).

    Don't be afraid to message around to get good information.

  • Avoiding Scammers: Choose girls with lots of photos and reviews on their profile. Likewise, avoid girls who have just created their account and who ask for a deposit. Once you start texting with a girl, ask to see photos of them to ensure they are safe.

    You should obviously never send an escort pictures of yourself and should remain vigilant throughout the interaction.

  • Cost: If you live in a Western country, seeing an escort will likely cost you hundreds of dollars, however, if you have never had sex before and have a hard time obtaining it, the cost is likely worth it.

    Stop spending in other areas of your life if you need to save up money: coffee, drugs, porn, movies, video games etc.

    If you want to pursue escorts more frequently, consider going to countries like Thailand or Amsterdam.

  • Avoiding Arrest: Getting arrested or charged for sleeping with an escort is usually pretty rare if you are discreet, even in countries where prostitution is technically illegal.

    If you are worried about getting arrested, learn about the laws regarding prostitution in your local area and see escorts that say they have a low volume of clients.

    If you do end up getting arrested in some sort of sting operation, remain silent and wait for the police to provide evidence; research some well-reviewed criminal defense lawyers in your area you could potentially hire.

  • Abstain from porn/masturbation: Finally, before you see the escort, it would be best to stay off of porn and masturbation for as long as you possibly can.

    Watching porn with professional camera work and angles is a far more visually stimulating experience than sex in real life. This means, if you are quite used to ejaculating while watching porn, it will be harder to do the same in real life (especially when wearing a condom).

    On the flip side, if you are worried about ejaculating too quickly, schedule more time with the escort so that you can have a round two (multiple shots on goal).
Overall, going to see an escort is something I would highly recommend for all incels who have never been laid, despite the cost and legal concerns. It is far better than resorting to other vices and will make you more comfortable with the actual process of sex.

7. Stop Reading This Forum

This forum has done a lot for me in helping me discover the blackpill and providing me a place to express my thoughts when there was nowhere else to go.

Even now, there are a lot of helpful posts on here that are interesting reads like @Newton the 2nd's "Got Permabanned off twitter" (showing the hypocrisy of social media platforms that claim to support free speech), @ragequiter's "Found myself an AI girlfriend." (coping mechanisms), and @wereq's "New mainstream media hit piece of incels: 'AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men'" (showing how MSM hates us).

However, there is also a lot of negativity on here with posts like "Women are soulless evil psychopaths, never trust them or turn your back on them", "Foid ruins my day." and "suicide fuel" posts.

Therefore, I would recommend doing what I have done for the last few months: check in on this forum when you are feeling angry/down and want to vent but don't spend hours reading it every day.

Your time would be better served talking to actual women and getting their actual opinion on blackpill concepts which, as users love to point out on here, rarely change.

I have studied many philosophies that attempt to explain women over the years (MGTOW, PUA, Blackpill, Redpill, feminism) and what I've learned is that most women differ on a case-to-case basis: they can never fully be logically understood.

The only thing we can do as men is talk to women face-to-face and let them decide whether or not they are attracted to us.

Conclusion

I guess before I leave this forum forever, I should probably tell you a little bit about my personal story and how I personally ascended.

I started seeing escorts last year (as I have advised you to do) then began interacting with real women a few months later.

I selected my target very carefully (she had a lot in common with me and was in close proximity). The first time I approached her, it wasn't perfect but I was not rejected and I kept on having conversations with her until we eventually exchanged contact information. Later, we started hanging out beyond a professional context and went on multiple dates until I was able to figure out the logistics so that we could have sex.

I was very lucky that I met her and I do consider her a unicorn but, like I stated, there are a lot more unicorns out there than you might think.

Remember, the techniques I have outlined have worked for me and may or may not work for you.

However, if you truly are an incel, as I was, do you really have much to lose by trying them?

I am certainly going to miss this community from the predictions I made in the bunker to shitposting with @proudweeb in the sewers and enraging redditors on IT. Shoutout to @PersonalityPIMP, @IncelKing, @BlkPillPres and @ray.

Thank you to everyone for all of the memories and understand that regardless of what happens to me:

I will never forget about this community.​
I will never forget where I came from.

I will never forget about incels.is.​


Goodbye.


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Holy shit. Congratulations brother. I enjoyed reading your posts. Goodbye
 
Holy shit. Congratulations brother. I enjoyed reading your posts. Goodbye
he is gonna come crawling back eventually, just like all users who "ascend"
once you get deep into the community you get to a point where you will never leave, if I somehow fucked 100 girls in 2024 then I would still be posting here in 2025
 
Kill yourself faggot
 
This will be my last post on this forum.

Recently, I have been taking actionable steps towards ascension and, after months of trial and error, I have finally been able to have sex with a woman. I am now in a relationship.

I wanted to share some words of advice with you to help you achieve what I have.

I am well aware many of you will refute my points, but I hope a small few of you will implement them to improve your dating life.

1. Choose Your Target Carefully

As we all know, most women in the modern era tend towards casual bar hookups with conventionally attractive men (Chads) in their youth then settle for a beta provider later on. This is undesirable, of course, because this type of woman is much more likely to cheat on you and exploit you for her own gain.

However, there are still some women out there who live semi-traditional lifestyles, are not very promiscuous, and would settle for a normal person.

The trick is to choose your target carefully.

If the woman you desire has any of the following characteristics, it is unlikely she would be a good fit for a long-term relationship and it is unlikely she would be a good fit for an incel:
  • Tattoos
  • Slutty dressing (showing cleavage, midriff, ass)
  • Posts her body on social media
  • Excessive piercings
  • Drinks and parties on the weekends
  • Is openly progressive (Ukrainian flags, 2SLGBTTQQIAAP+ rainbow, wears a mask etc.)
  • Fake nails/blonde-dyed hair
  • Older
View attachment 890272
On the flip side, if the woman you desire has some or all of the following characteristics, she could be a potential match/unicorn for an incel:
  • Dresses modestly/semi-modestly
  • Introverted
  • Conservative values (religious, republican etc.)
  • Intelligent
  • Within your proximity (goes to your college, works at your company etc.)
  • Younger
View attachment 890275

Even though you still may face rejection, choosing the right girl to approach is absolutely essential to ensuring your long-term success with her - so choose wisely.

2. Approach Indirectly

Most modern-day pickup and dating books advise men to approach women directly by immediately complimenting them, then asking for their number.

This is a terrible strategy and will most certainly lead to consistent rejection if you do not have the looks of a Chad or high socioeconomic status. For example, u/kj9876543 on Reddit reported approaching 1000+ girls using the direct approach method and only going on one date (no sex).

View attachment 890891

Instead, you must approach women indirectly under the guise of a casual conversation. Very few women will outright reject a seemingly friendly conversation with another person and, if she does, she probably would not be a great partner anyways.

Ask her a question about something happening around your local area, ask for her opinion on something you are struggling to understand, ask for advice, talk about your shitty professor/boss, talk about her outfit, talk about the weather today etc.

Then, once you have built up some rapport, you can start to make a move for her contact information, a date and eventually more.

The key here is to be creative in how you start the conversation while keeping it natural. You will have to find a balance between not being a :feelsclown: and not being too boring.

3. Lead the interaction

Once you start the interaction, the next key step is to slowly lead it towards where you want it to go while maintaining natural conversation.

This may seem difficult in theory but, in reality, it is quite simple as long as you have a plan in your head.

There are four major areas you will want to lead the interaction:

Number Close

Example: Somewhere within the conversation, bring up the topic of social media.

If the woman lets it slip that she has an account on a particular social media platform, ask her for her handle. After a while of messaging her on that platform, ask for her number.

If she does not have any social media, you can directly ask for her number.

Date Close

Example: After you have been talking for a while and you have the woman's number, casually ask her to hang out somewhere you suspect you would both enjoy.

If you are able to secure the date, move the woman around to a few different locations to try and maximize the amount of time you spend with her.

Kiss Close

Example: Once you are comfortable with the woman and are in a semi-private area, you can make a move towards kissing her for the first time.

If you are uncomfortable kissing her after the first date, wait a few dates then make your move.

If you are uncomfortable leaning in to kiss her because you fear rejection, ask her "do you want to kiss?" first.

Sex Close

Example: Finally, after you have gotten the girl's number, have taken her on a date(s) and have kissed her, it is time to make a move towards sex.

Like with before, do not directly ask the woman for sex but instead ask if she wants to go back to your place to look at something or hang out closer near your area.

Having the right logistics (step 5) set up so that you can have sex with the girl is paramount for this last step.



Constantly leading the conversation is not very hard in practice if you know what you are doing but it is necessary if you want to find success with your target beyond simple friendship.

4. Have Aspirations Beyond Having Sex

Most of the advice I have offered so far is not very complicated and are the very basics for successful seduction.

However, what will set you apart from the rest of the other guys is having aspirations beyond sex.

This can be moneymaxxing, gymmaxxing, something you are extremely passionate about outside of your main career, or even inceldom/the blackpill itself.

Having greater aspirations beyond sex and openly talking about them will allow you to keep the girl enthralled while the conversation seamlessly moves along.

If you are moneymaxxing, talk to the girl about the various strategies you are using to get wealthy and keep the conversation mostly on that topic, delving into small talk when necessary.
View attachment 890897

If you are gymmaxxing talk to the girl about the strategies you are using to get jacked and invite her to the gym. If you have another hobby, pivot the conversation towards that.
View attachment 890899

As I mentioned before, even your inceldom itself can be used to carry along the conversation and show depth in your character.

Respectfully, mentioning and talking about blackpill concepts in plain language like the lookspill, heightpill, racepill, dark triad, dickpill or even the dogpill will, at the very least, lead to stimluating conversation. While you are at it, ask the woman if she has an incel fetish and let me know what she says.
View attachment 890900

In the end, your ambitions and goals will act as your trojan horse towards sex.

5. Logistics Are Important

An often overlooked but important roadblock you will face if you try to pursue women is, perhaps surprisingly, logistics.

As you lead the interaction forward, ensure you have the following properly set up:
  • A phone number/social media accounts (younger women seem to prefer Instagram, Snapchat, and TikTok)
  • Potential date locations (parks, cafes, bars, clubs, restaurants, libraries, art galleries, museums, etc.)
  • Safe sex tools (condoms, lubricant, birth control, plan-b pills)
  • A place to go back to for sex (Your house/apartment, a hotel/motel room, a car etc.)
  • Transportation
  • And so on ...
The better prepared you are for the interaction you have with the woman, the smoother it will go. It is better to overprepare when it comes to logistics than to underprepare.

View attachment 890901

6. Use Escorts to Reduce Neediness

One piece of advice hardly anyone else will give you is to see escorts (escortcelling) before you interact with civilian women.

If you are an incel who has never experienced the physical act of sex, you will likely be extremely nervous when conversating with girls.

Seeing a few escorts beforehand can give you an idea of what sex feels like and how it works in real life (spoiler alert: it's not too far outside of what you would expect).

Once you are comfortable with how sex works and the physical act, you will focus less on obtaining it and will naturally exude less neediness when talking to girls.

Obviously, going to see an escort (especially in a Western country) is a lot easier said than done, so here are some tips:
  • Finding the escort: Use sites like Reddit to find safe forums and websites with escort listings around your area (e.g. tryst.link).

    Don't be afraid to message around to get good information.

  • Avoiding Scammers: Choose girls with lots of photos and reviews on their profile. Likewise, avoid girls who have just created their account and who ask for a deposit. Once you start texting with a girl, ask to see photos of them to ensure they are safe.

    You should obviously never send an escort pictures of yourself and should remain vigilant throughout the interaction.

  • Cost: If you live in a Western country, seeing an escort will likely cost you hundreds of dollars, however, if you have never had sex before and have a hard time obtaining it, the cost is likely worth it.

    Stop spending in other areas of your life if you need to save up money: coffee, drugs, porn, movies, video games etc.

    If you want to pursue escorts more frequently, consider going to countries like Thailand or Amsterdam.

  • Avoiding Arrest: Getting arrested or charged for sleeping with an escort is usually pretty rare if you are discreet, even in countries where prostitution is technically illegal.

    If you are worried about getting arrested, learn about the laws regarding prostitution in your local area and see escorts that say they have a low volume of clients.

    If you do end up getting arrested in some sort of sting operation, remain silent and wait for the police to provide evidence; research some well-reviewed criminal defense lawyers in your area you could potentially hire.

  • Abstain from porn/masturbation: Finally, before you see the escort, it would be best to stay off of porn and masturbation for as long as you possibly can.

    Watching porn with professional camera work and angles is a far more visually stimulating experience than sex in real life. This means, if you are quite used to ejaculating while watching porn, it will be harder to do the same in real life (especially when wearing a condom).

    On the flip side, if you are worried about ejaculating too quickly, schedule more time with the escort so that you can have a round two (multiple shots on goal).
Overall, going to see an escort is something I would highly recommend for all incels who have never been laid, despite the cost and legal concerns. It is far better than resorting to other vices and will make you more comfortable with the actual process of sex.

7. Stop Reading This Forum

This forum has done a lot for me in helping me discover the blackpill and providing me a place to express my thoughts when there was nowhere else to go.

Even now, there are a lot of helpful posts on here that are interesting reads like @Newton the 2nd's "Got Permabanned off twitter" (showing the hypocrisy of social media platforms that claim to support free speech), @ragequiter's "Found myself an AI girlfriend." (coping mechanisms), and @wereq's "New mainstream media hit piece of incels: 'AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men'" (showing how MSM hates us).

However, there is also a lot of negativity on here with posts like "Women are soulless evil psychopaths, never trust them or turn your back on them", "Foid ruins my day." and "suicide fuel" posts.

Therefore, I would recommend doing what I have done for the last few months: check in on this forum when you are feeling angry/down and want to vent but don't spend hours reading it every day.

Your time would be better served talking to actual women and getting their actual opinion on blackpill concepts which, as users love to point out on here, rarely change.

I have studied many philosophies that attempt to explain women over the years (MGTOW, PUA, Blackpill, Redpill, feminism) and what I've learned is that most women differ on a case-to-case basis: they can never fully be logically understood.

The only thing we can do as men is talk to women face-to-face and let them decide whether or not they are attracted to us.

Conclusion

I guess before I leave this forum forever, I should probably tell you a little bit about my personal story and how I personally ascended.

I started seeing escorts last year (as I have advised you to do) then began interacting with real women a few months later.

I selected my target very carefully (she had a lot in common with me and was in close proximity). The first time I approached her, it wasn't perfect but I was not rejected and I kept on having conversations with her until we eventually exchanged contact information. Later, we started hanging out beyond a professional context and went on multiple dates until I was able to figure out the logistics so that we could have sex.

I was very lucky that I met her and I do consider her a unicorn but, like I stated, there are a lot more unicorns out there than you might think.

Remember, the techniques I have outlined have worked for me and may or may not work for you.

However, if you truly are an incel, as I was, do you really have much to lose by trying them?

I am certainly going to miss this community from the predictions I made in the bunker to shitposting with @proudweeb in the sewers and enraging redditors on IT. Shoutout to @PersonalityPIMP, @IncelKing, @BlkPillPres and @ray.

Thank you to everyone for all of the memories and understand that regardless of what happens to me:

I will never forget about this community.​
I will never forget where I came from.​
I will never forget about incels.is.​


Goodbye.


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Fakecel get the fuck out.
U probably 6ft tall just lazy ass bitch.
 
Don't really know you, but congratz. Hope it lasts a while. And thanks for trying to give some helpful advice. Your efforts are appreciated.

Salute5
 
I read every word. It is low-key useless advice since we don't know your stats (face rating, height, ethnicity) but congratulations nonetheless.
 
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself. Your autistic essay is about to be nuked, thanks for the thesis though dumbass. :lul:
 
Unusual to see a paragon making it to the sexhaver club

Goodbye
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What race is OP?
Don't try to make this thread about a fakecel piece of shit ascending another JBW thread. He is a fakecel he doesn't represent every white user (if he even is white)
 
Congrats, there's some good advice that may work on there if you're a mentalcel, unfortunately ogrecels are still out of luck
 
damn just have 10000 posts on incel forum theory
 
Are you gonna sell me a course as well?
 
Don't try to make this thread about a fakecel piece of shit ascending another JBW thread. He is a fakecel he doesn't represent every white user (if he even is white)
Shut up cracker :feelsUgh:

I cuck Hispanic men on a regular basis
 
dnr too ugly to ascend
 
@SlayerSlayer When you ban him can you edit this shit thread and remove this worthless barely disguised humblebragging "guide" he decided to make? :feelshaha:
 
God damn it why dont these faggots just log off but have to admit to their ascension crap
Nobody cares and you didnt ascend
 
@SlayerSlayer When you ban him can you edit this shit thread and remove this worthless barely disguised humblebragging "guide" he decided to make? :feelshaha:
He should change the title and content of the thread to "I am a retarded faggot"
 
fakecel mf posted his dissertation here frfr
 
What a joke. Bye and take your shit post with you.
 
Instead, you must approach women indirectly under the guise of a casual conversation. Very few women will outright reject a seemingly friendly conversation with another person and, if she does, she probably would not be a great partner anyways.
This has to be bullshit, how can you even keep a conversation with a girl wiithout giving your intention away? Like unless it is some ultra specific situation, like in warm aproaches. Even if you don't tell her she will understand it because there's literally no other reason for you to be talking to a stranger besides basic stuff like asking for directions.
 
This will be my last post on this forum.

Recently, I have been taking actionable steps towards ascension and, after months of trial and error, I have finally been able to have sex with a woman. I am now in a relationship.

I wanted to share some words of advice with you to help you achieve what I have.

I am well aware many of you will refute my points, but I hope a small few of you will implement them to improve your dating life.

1. Choose Your Target Carefully

As we all know, most women in the modern era tend towards casual bar hookups with conventionally attractive men (Chads) in their youth then settle for a beta provider later on. This is undesirable, of course, because this type of woman is much more likely to cheat on you and exploit you for her own gain.

However, there are still some women out there who live semi-traditional lifestyles, are not very promiscuous, and would settle for a normal person.

The trick is to choose your target carefully.

If the woman you desire has any of the following characteristics, it is unlikely she would be a good fit for a long-term relationship and it is unlikely she would be a good fit for an incel:
  • Tattoos
  • Slutty dressing (showing cleavage, midriff, ass)
  • Posts her body on social media
  • Excessive piercings
  • Drinks and parties on the weekends
  • Is openly progressive (Ukrainian flags, 2SLGBTTQQIAAP+ rainbow, wears a mask etc.)
  • Fake nails/blonde-dyed hair
  • Older
View attachment 890272
On the flip side, if the woman you desire has some or all of the following characteristics, she could be a potential match/unicorn for an incel:
  • Dresses modestly/semi-modestly
  • Introverted
  • Conservative values (religious, republican etc.)
  • Intelligent
  • Within your proximity (goes to your college, works at your company etc.)
  • Younger
View attachment 890275

Even though you still may face rejection, choosing the right girl to approach is absolutely essential to ensuring your long-term success with her - so choose wisely.

2. Approach Indirectly

Most modern-day pickup and dating books advise men to approach women directly by immediately complimenting them, then asking for their number.

This is a terrible strategy and will most certainly lead to consistent rejection if you do not have the looks of a Chad or high socioeconomic status. For example, u/kj9876543 on Reddit reported approaching 1000+ girls using the direct approach method and only going on one date (no sex).

View attachment 890891

Instead, you must approach women indirectly under the guise of a casual conversation. Very few women will outright reject a seemingly friendly conversation with another person and, if she does, she probably would not be a great partner anyways.

Ask her a question about something happening around your local area, ask for her opinion on something you are struggling to understand, ask for advice, talk about your shitty professor/boss, talk about her outfit, talk about the weather today etc.

Then, once you have built up some rapport, you can start to make a move for her contact information, a date and eventually more.

The key here is to be creative in how you start the conversation while keeping it natural. You will have to find a balance between not being a :feelsclown: and not being too boring.

3. Lead the interaction

Once you start the interaction, the next key step is to slowly lead it towards where you want it to go while maintaining natural conversation.

This may seem difficult in theory but, in reality, it is quite simple as long as you have a plan in your head.

There are four major areas you will want to lead the interaction:

Number Close

Example: Somewhere within the conversation, bring up the topic of social media.

If the woman lets it slip that she has an account on a particular social media platform, ask her for her handle. After a while of messaging her on that platform, ask for her number.

If she does not have any social media, you can directly ask for her number.

Date Close

Example: After you have been talking for a while and you have the woman's number, casually ask her to hang out somewhere you suspect you would both enjoy.

If you are able to secure the date, move the woman around to a few different locations to try and maximize the amount of time you spend with her.

Kiss Close

Example: Once you are comfortable with the woman and are in a semi-private area, you can make a move towards kissing her for the first time.

If you are uncomfortable kissing her after the first date, wait a few dates then make your move.

If you are uncomfortable leaning in to kiss her because you fear rejection, ask her "do you want to kiss?" first.

Sex Close

Example: Finally, after you have gotten the girl's number, have taken her on a date(s) and have kissed her, it is time to make a move towards sex.

Like with before, do not directly ask the woman for sex but instead ask if she wants to go back to your place to look at something or hang out closer near your area.

Having the right logistics (step 5) set up so that you can have sex with the girl is paramount for this last step.



Constantly leading the conversation is not very hard in practice if you know what you are doing but it is necessary if you want to find success with your target beyond simple friendship.

4. Have Aspirations Beyond Having Sex

Most of the advice I have offered so far is not very complicated and are the very basics for successful seduction.

However, what will set you apart from the rest of the other guys is having aspirations beyond sex.

This can be moneymaxxing, gymmaxxing, something you are extremely passionate about outside of your main career, or even inceldom/the blackpill itself.

Having greater aspirations beyond sex and openly talking about them will allow you to keep the girl enthralled while the conversation seamlessly moves along.

If you are moneymaxxing, talk to the girl about the various strategies you are using to get wealthy and keep the conversation mostly on that topic, delving into small talk when necessary.
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If you are gymmaxxing talk to the girl about the strategies you are using to get jacked and invite her to the gym. If you have another hobby, pivot the conversation towards that.
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As I mentioned before, even your inceldom itself can be used to carry along the conversation and show depth in your character.

Respectfully, mentioning and talking about blackpill concepts in plain language like the lookspill, heightpill, racepill, dark triad, dickpill or even the dogpill will, at the very least, lead to stimluating conversation. While you are at it, ask the woman if she has an incel fetish and let me know what she says.
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In the end, your ambitions and goals will act as your trojan horse towards sex.

5. Logistics Are Important

An often overlooked but important roadblock you will face if you try to pursue women is, perhaps surprisingly, logistics.

As you lead the interaction forward, ensure you have the following properly set up:
  • A phone number/social media accounts (younger women seem to prefer Instagram, Snapchat, and TikTok)
  • Potential date locations (parks, cafes, bars, clubs, restaurants, libraries, art galleries, museums, etc.)
  • Safe sex tools (condoms, lubricant, birth control, plan-b pills)
  • A place to go back to for sex (Your house/apartment, a hotel/motel room, a car etc.)
  • Transportation
  • And so on ...
The better prepared you are for the interaction you have with the woman, the smoother it will go. It is better to overprepare when it comes to logistics than to underprepare.

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6. Use Escorts to Reduce Neediness

One piece of advice hardly anyone else will give you is to see escorts (escortcelling) before you interact with civilian women.

If you are an incel who has never experienced the physical act of sex, you will likely be extremely nervous when conversating with girls.

Seeing a few escorts beforehand can give you an idea of what sex feels like and how it works in real life (spoiler alert: it's not too far outside of what you would expect).

Once you are comfortable with how sex works and the physical act, you will focus less on obtaining it and will naturally exude less neediness when talking to girls.

Obviously, going to see an escort (especially in a Western country) is a lot easier said than done, so here are some tips:
  • Finding the escort: Use sites like Reddit to find safe forums and websites with escort listings around your area (e.g. tryst.link).

    Don't be afraid to message around to get good information.

  • Avoiding Scammers: Choose girls with lots of photos and reviews on their profile. Likewise, avoid girls who have just created their account and who ask for a deposit. Once you start texting with a girl, ask to see photos of them to ensure they are safe.

    You should obviously never send an escort pictures of yourself and should remain vigilant throughout the interaction.

  • Cost: If you live in a Western country, seeing an escort will likely cost you hundreds of dollars, however, if you have never had sex before and have a hard time obtaining it, the cost is likely worth it.

    Stop spending in other areas of your life if you need to save up money: coffee, drugs, porn, movies, video games etc.

    If you want to pursue escorts more frequently, consider going to countries like Thailand or Amsterdam.

  • Avoiding Arrest: Getting arrested or charged for sleeping with an escort is usually pretty rare if you are discreet, even in countries where prostitution is technically illegal.

    If you are worried about getting arrested, learn about the laws regarding prostitution in your local area and see escorts that say they have a low volume of clients.

    If you do end up getting arrested in some sort of sting operation, remain silent and wait for the police to provide evidence; research some well-reviewed criminal defense lawyers in your area you could potentially hire.

  • Abstain from porn/masturbation: Finally, before you see the escort, it would be best to stay off of porn and masturbation for as long as you possibly can.

    Watching porn with professional camera work and angles is a far more visually stimulating experience than sex in real life. This means, if you are quite used to ejaculating while watching porn, it will be harder to do the same in real life (especially when wearing a condom).

    On the flip side, if you are worried about ejaculating too quickly, schedule more time with the escort so that you can have a round two (multiple shots on goal).
Overall, going to see an escort is something I would highly recommend for all incels who have never been laid, despite the cost and legal concerns. It is far better than resorting to other vices and will make you more comfortable with the actual process of sex.

7. Stop Reading This Forum

This forum has done a lot for me in helping me discover the blackpill and providing me a place to express my thoughts when there was nowhere else to go.

Even now, there are a lot of helpful posts on here that are interesting reads like @Newton the 2nd's "Got Permabanned off twitter" (showing the hypocrisy of social media platforms that claim to support free speech), @ragequiter's "Found myself an AI girlfriend." (coping mechanisms), and @wereq's "New mainstream media hit piece of incels: 'AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men'" (showing how MSM hates us).

However, there is also a lot of negativity on here with posts like "Women are soulless evil psychopaths, never trust them or turn your back on them", "Foid ruins my day." and "suicide fuel" posts.

Therefore, I would recommend doing what I have done for the last few months: check in on this forum when you are feeling angry/down and want to vent but don't spend hours reading it every day.

Your time would be better served talking to actual women and getting their actual opinion on blackpill concepts which, as users love to point out on here, rarely change.

I have studied many philosophies that attempt to explain women over the years (MGTOW, PUA, Blackpill, Redpill, feminism) and what I've learned is that most women differ on a case-to-case basis: they can never fully be logically understood.

The only thing we can do as men is talk to women face-to-face and let them decide whether or not they are attracted to us.

Conclusion

I guess before I leave this forum forever, I should probably tell you a little bit about my personal story and how I personally ascended.

I started seeing escorts last year (as I have advised you to do) then began interacting with real women a few months later.

I selected my target very carefully (she had a lot in common with me and was in close proximity). The first time I approached her, it wasn't perfect but I was not rejected and I kept on having conversations with her until we eventually exchanged contact information. Later, we started hanging out beyond a professional context and went on multiple dates until I was able to figure out the logistics so that we could have sex.

I was very lucky that I met her and I do consider her a unicorn but, like I stated, there are a lot more unicorns out there than you might think.

Remember, the techniques I have outlined have worked for me and may or may not work for you.

However, if you truly are an incel, as I was, do you really have much to lose by trying them?

I am certainly going to miss this community from the predictions I made in the bunker to shitposting with @proudweeb in the sewers and enraging redditors on IT. Shoutout to @PersonalityPIMP, @IncelKing, @BlkPillPres and @ray.

Thank you to everyone for all of the memories and understand that regardless of what happens to me:

I will never forget about this community.​
I will never forget where I came from.​
I will never forget about incels.is.​


Goodbye.


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I suspected it since I saw you postmaxxed to 10k and immediately vanished.

Anyways good job and good luck.
 
Is she white?
 
bruh y so many negative posts i swear if any of u ascended u would be posting ur story on here as well and would want fellow incels to feel good 4 u
 
bruh y so many negative posts i swear if any of u ascended u would be posting ur story on here as well and would want fellow incels to feel good 4 u
true mang. i wanna learn their ways to ascend.
 
There's some decent advice here although I'm too much of a sperg to meet and talk to women organically. I'll just go to Southeast Asia in the future when I have more money and try to attract pinays on Tinder. I'm not even bothering with American toilets.
 
This message is not for OP, but for the usERs hERe who are showing hatred and jealousy because of OP’s ascension:

In the hypothetical scenario that All usERs of this forum (except for me) are able to ascend by the end of today, it DOESN’T make me any less sexless than before.

Likewise, if nobody hERe ascends, it also DOESN’T make me any less sexless than before.

I don’t get jealous when I see brocels ascend, because What othER brocels expERience in life has litERally no impact on my own life.

Life is an individual game, you’re on your own with your own expERiences, so just focus on yourself and don’t waste time or energy in being envious of othERs.

Envy and hatred are a poison of the mind.

Pretend nobody else exists, and you r the only pERson who is real. This philosophy is known as “solipsism”, it has helped me to focus on myself and NOT let myself get distracted by what othERs are expERiencing in life, which has led to me investing more resources in myself resulting in positive progress in self-improvement
 
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Dresses modestly/semi-modestly
  • Introverted
  • Conservative values (religious, republican etc.)
  • Intelligent
  • Within your proximity (goes to your college, works at your company etc.)
  • Younger
except these women are the exact same as the ones you mentioned to "avoid" all foids act the same just because she goes to church or wears a trad girl dress doesn't mean shes all of a sudden better :feelskek:

biggest water is wet thread i have ever seen of "just go to the gym, don't could approach, etc"
 
TLDR: "Just attract a girl, bro" :soy: :bluepill::bluepill::bluepill:
 

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