Serious How do you prevent your own white knight behaviour?

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Originally I was going to ask something like "how have you corrected your white knight behavior" but then after talking to a moderator it might have degenerated into bragging about previous successes which is against the rules. So I'm going to ask the related question of "how do you prevent your own white knight behavior?" and prevent yourself from falling back into that trap?

One of the things I do is play about with who's doing what to who (from a 3rd person pov):
  • would she do the same for me?
  • would I call someone else who's doing what I was doing a white knight?
  • how does she treat others who don't do that what I do?
I realized that everything about our interactions was one sided and any connection we had was all in my head. In retrospect, throughout my teens and 20s, I was on "cruise-control" and just did what felt kind and the nice thing to do. But if I just stop and think about things, it was clear that she's no damsel in distress and that helps me prevent being a white knight.
 
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I honestly just tell myself it's too much effort for nothing, and I'll get nothing out of it.
 
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IncelTears and other harassers help me A LOT. Bitterness is what fuels me to act rude and petty to femoids in public.
 
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  • would she do the same for me?
  • would I call someone else who's doing what I was doing a white knight?
  • how does she treat others who don't do that what I do?
If all cucks asked themselves these questions before they helped a femoid there would be no more friendzones.
 
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I've literally always been subhuman to women. So not white knighting, as well as a complete indifference to their well-being, has always come exceedingly easy to me. Although, lately, my apathy towards women is beginning to pour over into men as well.
 
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I don’t have to prevent it, even before I was introduced to the black pill I didn’t treat them like queens. Instead, I treat them as equals. Opening doors, and especially pulling up chairs for them simply because they have a vagina has always seemed a little cucky to me.
 
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I've honestly never felt the urge to protect or help women. I'm not altruistic in general. It's always been me against the world
 
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fukmylyf said:
I've honestly never felt the urge to protect or help women. I'm not altruistic in general. It's always been me against the world

Same. I feel it to help senior citizens or little kids but that's about it. Maybe give money to a homeless guy claiming he's a vet at the most.
 
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i treat everyone with respect or at least try to, don't judge people by looks at all

if doing that is being a "white knight," then humanity is fucked. sure, the females may view me as subhuman, but i don't care.
 
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mylifeistrash said:
Same. I feel it to help senior citizens or little kids but that's about it. Maybe give money to a homeless guy claiming he's a vet at the most.
yeah, only the poor and helpless. Maybe bc I relate to them in a way
 
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I'm black so by default we know not to help women through our Captain Save A Hoe meme. This Thread reminds me of when I was on mgtow forums. There was a thread about a feminist female rhino and she tried to eat food from another male rhinos territory. Now the male Rhino tried their mate with her so he can impregnate her and add her to his tribe and she kept refusing.

Now the male tried twice and after that he treated her as another Rhino that just got into his territory and he warned her twice to leave but she kept ignoring him so he killed her and of course this story pissed the feminists off bad but the whole point of the thread was this whole White Knight bullshit is not an instinctive trait in men to protect women that aren't their mates or even part of their tribe.. This is a trait brought on Long by liberalism or general civilization.
 
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I try to see the situation/person as is, see how or why these two people are doing or saying whatever it is, ask is it worth it? And/or have come to realize most of this shit isn't my fucking problem. Oh I believe in being appreciative when someone does you a favor, but this pedestalizing is fucking beyond dumb.
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i treat everyone with respect or at least try to, don't judge people by looks at all

if doing that is being a "white knight," then humanity is fucked. sure, the females may view me as subhuman, but i don't care.

I mostly agreeish.
 
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I don't really recall exhibiting white knight behavior. The only situations I'd do it is if I could benefit, and so far I haven't found any situations where that could be applicable
 
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I have never been a white knight. I may hold doors for people in general but its not like I give females special treatment at all or ever act morally superior.
 
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Robtical said:
If all cucks asked themselves these questions before they helped a femoid there would be no more friendzones.
Good idea.

In this case, I'll compile these replies to help others out.
 
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Growing up I was told that I have to be Nice and Helpful and they will be Nice and Helpful back. I was told this is how you make friends. You can already guess how it went, I was used and abused. I can recall me giving chocolates and other sweet foods to a group of friends I wanted to join. They let me join but I became the target of the jokes and pranks, I was hit harder, called names more and was blackmailed more than any other person in the group.

I have always been the loner, even if I joined a group it was always the same, they would talk and I would listen. I was always left out of things.
I was the biggest Nice Guy I know, I would do anything for my crush, I made a card for this girl and gave her chocolates. She ripped up the card after reading it out loud and laughed at me and the group of girls followed. I was never bullied by Chads because I played Rugby and shit like that but I was always called names and laughed at by girls. Normies hated me, I truly never fitted in with any group. I have nerve damage in my right cheek from being kicked in face by a Normie when I stood up for myself when he was insulting me.

I think the worst of them all, was this girl who I had the biggest crush on. She would hug me when she had to leave and tell me often that she loved me... I thought I had a chance, I asked her to be my GF but I got rejected on the spot. I thought it was over but it turns out she started spreading rumors about me. She told people I was creepy and a pervert. That I was inappropriately touching her, I never asked her for a hug she always asked me :(. That stopped all girls from talking to me and even guys would give me dirty looks. That's the last time I went after a Stacy.

I no longer white knight because after years of failure I realize that I'm the only one getting hurt by being Nice to others and defending others. I have never received a single thing in return for every Nice and Helpful thing I have done. Life isn't fair when you aren't normal.
 
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BridgeJumper said:
Growing up I was told that I have to be Nice and Helpful and they will be Nice and Helpful back. I was told this is how you make friends. You can already guess how it went, I was used and abused. I can recall me giving chocolates and other sweet foods to a group of friends I wanted to join. They let me join but I became the target of the jokes and pranks, I was hit harder, called names more and was blackmailed more than any other person in the group.

I have always been the loner, even if I joined a group it was always the same, they would talk and I would listen. I was always left out of things.
I was the biggest Nice Guy I know, I would do anything for my crush, I made a card for this girl and gave her chocolates. She ripped up the card after reading it out loud and laughed at me and the group of girls followed. I was never bullied by Chads because I played Rugby and shit like that but I was always called names and laughed at by girls. Normies hated me, I truly never fitted in with any group. I have nerve damage in my right cheek from being kicked in face by a Normie when I stood up for myself when he was insulting me.

I think the worst of them all, was this girl who I had the biggest crush on. She would hug me when she had to leave and tell me often that she loved me... I thought I had a chance, I asked her to be my GF but I got rejected on the spot. I thought it was over but it turns out she started spreading rumors about me. She told people I was creepy and a pervert. That I was inappropriately touching her, I never asked her for a hug she always asked me :(. That stopped all girls from talking to me and even guys would give me dirty looks. That's the last time I went after a Stacy.

I no longer white knight because after years of failure I realize that I'm the only one getting hurt by being Nice to others and defending others. I have never received a single thing in return for every Nice and Helpful thing I have done. Life isn't fair when you aren't normal.

I'm a hopeless nice guy myself. I figuratively hold up doors for every foid and have always treated every woman as a lady. I've never got anything for it, of course (not that I expected it), but the way I've come to look at it, it wouldn't matter an inch if I suddenly switched and attempted bad boy behavior instead. Since I'm shut out of love due to looks anyway, I can just as well go on being a nice guy to everyone.
But I've never had such negative feedback as you for just being nice. This is heart breaking. I really feel sorry for you, brother.
 
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Cancel said:
Originally I was going to ask something like "how have you corrected your white knight behavior" but then after talking to a moderator it might have degenerated into bragging about previous successes which is against the rules. So I'm going to ask the related question of "how do you prevent your own white knight behavior?" and prevent yourself from falling back into that trap?

One of the things I do is play about with who's doing what to who (from a 3rd person pov):
  • would she do the same for me?
  • would I call someone else who's doing what I was doing a white knight?
  • how does she treat others who don't do that what I do?
I realized that everything about our interactions was one sided and any connection we had was all in my head. In retrospect, throughout my teens and 20s, I was on "cruise-control" and just did what felt kind and the nice thing to do. But if I just stop and think about things, it was clear that she's no damsel in distress and that helps me prevent being a white knight.
I don't white knight. I don't even approach women -- even when they are in bad situations. I just keep walking. Why care? Would they care if something was happening to us?

From my experience, no.
 
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I don't white knight. I don't even approach women -- even when they are in bad situations. I just keep walking. Why care? Would they care if something was happening to us?

From my experience, no.
this. no one ever helped an incel.

I was a hopeless nice guy too, but blackpill cured me completely. I just dont give a fuck anymore about foids.
 
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I was walking on an almost empty street once while a crazy homeless guy was pacing around and yelling in the distance, a foid I hadn't noticed yet got really close to me while still keeping mostly out of my sight, so close that she was almost peeking out from under my armpit, literally silently using me as a human shield until we got past that guy, then quickly distanced and left without addressing a word/gesture to me once 'the danger had past'.

Foid attitude towards favors/knighting in a nutshell, remembering this helps me from white knighting too hard, but I would probably still lapse for a girl that was a very good genetics match.
 
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The white knighting instinct is fucking atrocious at times.
I, personally, feed the impulsive action potential (wanting to help a female) through the logic mashine (which tells me maintaining anything other than my immediate self-interest is illogical, in my position) for several seconds, before acting on/writing something. It's gotten to the point where some sloot would ask for help or for some object and I'd outright say that I can do it/have said object, but I don't feel like helping her/giving it to her.
 
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fukmylyf said:
I've honestly never felt the urge to protect or help women. I'm not altruistic in general. It's always been me against the world
 
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By avoiding any online spaces that allow foids into their community.
 
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No need, it's just so easy to not help a femoid