Discussion How do you feel about failed normies/semi-incels/incels who got a little action long ago but are incels now?

[Mainländer]

That type of guy, usually in the 4-5 range in terms of looks, who may have had one brief relationship when younger, or luckied out and fucked a fatty once or twice in his life, etc. Men whose looks declined with age while already in a barely doable point on the scale to begin with, so now they're incels, etc.

Is a guy like that really that much above a virgin incel who never had a relationship? I imagine actually getting into a brief relationship with a girl when you're young, but then getting dumped and never getting anything anymore. It must suck balls. Getting a little taste of the drug and then being denied another one forever is worse than just never doing the drug at all, would it be the same for sex and relationships? Or are they privileged anyway because they at least got it?

 

[Dionysus]

i think its brutal ngl

 

[TheSecondComing]

i think that it's over

 

[Emba]

i think its brutal ngl

I concur.

 

[Of Manlets and Men]

Same as a serf who had fuck all would feel about a small farmer who had a little.

 

[Mainländer]

i think that it's over

For them, that's accurate, instead of "never began".

 

[Akkadian]

Even if someone now ends up fucking a landwhale, I wouldn't see that as ascension.

 

[Angry_runt]

I don't think you need a taste of that drug to know what you are missing. The addiction is biologically hardwired into us through evolution.

Come to think of it most men will end up as sexually undesirable eventually. So are we supposed to feel bad about 70 year old guys who fucked 20 girls until age 40 but then had nothing for 30 years? I myself am long out of empathy for pretty much anyone.

 

[overformanlets]

still incel but not as bad as most

I don't think you need a taste of that drug to know what you are missing.

i think for most the taste of the drug comes from other guys, thirdwheeling or just watching and seeing their happiness solidifies the blackpill inside ur mind

 

[Mainländer]

I don't think you need a taste of that drug to know what you are missing. The addiction is biologically hardwired into us through evolution.

Fair point. A stronger taste of the drug, then? Actually kissing, fucking or dating a foid.

Come to think of it most men will end up as sexually undesirable eventually. So are we supposed to feel bad about 70 year old guys who fucked 20 girls until age 40 but then had nothing for 30 years? I myself am long out of empathy for pretty much anyone.

Another fair point.

I think that if a man is an incel at 70 after not being one from 12 to his 50s or something, it's tough to even call him incel. No one is attractive at that age and your hormones have calmed down for good. I think being an incel from the point where you start to feel like dating girls (usually early 10s) until your 30s is the worst. It creates a hole on you that will hurt forever, especially the early 10s-early 20s phase.

 

[KingOfRome]

Way too susceptible to gambler's fallacy. They'll keep trying the confidence and personality thing and convincing themselves of it until their faces are as blue as their balls. After all, it worked one time out of two thousand, so why wouldn't it work again? They don't notice their looks degrading as they age because they don't even realize looks matter, at least not to the extent they do in the real world. Keep trying, keep up that jester, that lightning has to hit that bottle again sometime.

 

[Angry_runt]

Fair point. A stronger taste of the drug, then? Actually kissing, fucking or dating a foid.

I don't think it can possibly be as amazing as we're imagining it. I'd bet it's probably the opposite, meaning someone who's had sex or whatever will want it less desperately (and therefore suffer less than we do) going forward.

I think that if a man is an incel at 70 after not being one from 12 to his 50s or something, it's tough to even call him incel.

I agree and I wouldn't consider them incels even if they fall within the definition of the word. Not knowing what it's like to feel desired is essential for inceldom I think, which is why escortcels are incels but standardcels aren't.

 

[Deleted member 2047]

OP is subtly implying that describes him

 

[Deleted member 22907]

they mog me

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

I have zero sympathy for them because they're the types who vehemently deny being "incel" and would rather put us down than join us. Fuck em.

 

[Mainländer]

OP is subtly implying that describes him

That could have been me, but wasn't. I was a low tier normie during youth, but didn't ascend. Now my looks declined and I'm incel tier.

I made that post with some guys I personally know in mind, not myself.

 

[Llama]

Oh how far the great have fallen

 

[Deleted member 19236]

he lived a life 1000% better than a permavirgin

 

[TINMAN]

I think it's still slightly better than never getting any, complete and utter loneliness fucks up your brain development permanently.

 

[omnilet]

Non kv=can fuck off

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

Same as a serf who had fuck all would feel about a small farmer who had a little.

exactly

 

[Mainländer]

Non kv=can fuck off

What about the looks of the woman? If someone kissed a 1/10 landwhale, he has to fuck off as well?

 

[omnilet]

What about the looks of the woman? If someone kissed a 1/10 landwhale, he has to fuck off as well?

Maybe not if they truly kissed one and nothing else, however I have fucking doubts after many retards using the landwhale or ethnic foid execuse to claim incel status

 

[lightskin2thousand0]

their strange idk

 

[Deleted member 14805]

I'm indifferent towards them TBH.

 

[Dregster]

he lived a life 1000% better than a permavirgin

 

[Deleted member 10124]

i think its brutal ngl

i think that it's over

I concur.

 

[Iwanttolive]

Way too susceptible to gambler's fallacy. They'll keep trying the confidence and personality thing and convincing themselves of it until their faces are as blue as their balls. After all, it worked one time out of two thousand, so why wouldn't it work again? They don't notice their looks degrading as they age because they don't even realize looks matter, at least not to the extent they do in the real world. Keep trying, keep up that jester, that lightning has to hit that bottle again sometime.

This the right answer. Having tasted success, they won't give up so easily. Their brain chemistry/psyche is totally different from a dude who has ZERO romantic/sexual relations with a foid in his entire existence.

Though, there will be a rare few who will be blackpilled like VVS on youtube.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

Eggy is based and he’s had like 3 relationships in 28 years. You can be blackpilled and based if you are a failed normie, but you can’t know the true suffering of someone’s thats been alone for their whole life. Eggy got laid at 18, I’m 23 and never had a kiss.

 

[mericks]

Just because their lives suck doesn't make them incels. Also my experience dealing with them is that as soon as they find out I'm a virgin they turn into smarmy cunts who will constantly talk about how they had sex once just to mog me. I actually find them more annoying than normies, ngl.

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

It's over for them too

 

[FinnCel]

They're incels now and have to wake up to the brutal truth.

We need as many soldiers as possible on our side to start limiting women's rights again

 

[Deleted member 6214]

That type of guy, usually in the 4-5 range in terms of looks, who may have had one brief relationship when younger, or luckied out and fucked a fatty once or twice in his life, etc. Men whose looks declined with age while already in a barely doable point on the scale to begin with, so now they're incels, etc.

Is a guy like that really that much above a virgin incel who never had a relationship? I imagine actually getting into a brief relationship with a girl when you're young, but then getting dumped and never getting anything anymore. It must suck balls. Getting a little taste of the drug and then being denied another one forever is worse than just never doing the drug at all, would it be the same for sex and relationships? Or are they privileged anyway because they at least got it?

I think they're worse off than KHHV incels because they actually got to feel what it's like to have a gf, or have had sex or whatever. They must constantly wonder how they should've done things a different way, or overanalyzing where they fucked up... It must be agonizing

 

[Deleted member 18435]

They are not incels. Period. While they were my age or younger experiencing sex and a relationship I was and still am rotting with nothing. I never subscribed to the idea that your inceldom just resets after a certain amount of time passes since you last had something. That logic is fucking retarded. Even if this were the case, you still have fond memories of being with/good enough for a foid. If you were able to get a foid once, you can do it again unless you're 100 or some shit(or a volcel who only wants teenage cunts while ignoring realistic potential mates because "muh roastie" like all foids of all ages aren't massive sluts).

he lived a life 1000% better than a permavirgin

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

men with some romantic experience usually tend to get "recycled" like in that article about norway, so i would say it's an advantage, no matter how little you got your foot in the door, odds are you will be recycled for another go round either with your ex or another woman

however i'm not that extreme and i wouldn't mind if they were posting here so long as they avoided brags, and just answered questions truthfully if their romantic past came up

 

[mericks]

I think they're worse off than KHHV incels because they actually got to feel what it's like to have a gf, or have had sex or whatever. They must constantly wonder how they should've done things a different way, or overanalyzing where they fucked up... It must be agonizing

Still less agonizing than looking back on your life and realizing that you never got to experience the most fundamental aspect of human existence.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Still less agonizing than looking back on your life and realizing that you never got to experience the most fundamental aspect of human existence.

if you had some crappy transitory gf during your late teens, you have a small chance of getting back together with her for a while and being less sexless in your twenties
if you're a lifelong incel, you have nothing

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

I think they're worse off than KHHV incels because they actually got to feel what it's like to have a gf, or have had sex or whatever. They must constantly wonder how they should've done things a different way, or overanalyzing where they fucked up... It must be agonizing

I'm not sure if they're worse off than us, but you have to imagine them being tormented over the "what if" possibilities. They have to live with immense regret over missing their chance to fulfill the potential they once had, whereas we were doomed from birth so there's no such thing as regret for us.

 

[chadalwayswins]

to paraphrase a writer: it is better to have fucked and lost than to have never fucked at all

 

[Ropemaxx]

I don't have any problem with them. Look at one of the best blackpillers out there, Faceandlms. He had sex like 10 years ago, and now he gets rejected by 100% of women, does that make him fakecel? JFL no it doesnt

Maybe some of them dropped their standards too low aswell.
I think if most people here approached 1000 fat chicks they would get laid, but that wouldnt even be worth it. Rather incel than bang a fatty, that shit is disgusting

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

Brief relationship when younger is miles above lucking out on a fatty once imo. But I think both can be incel.

 

[Deleted member 3385]

well 30% of guys 18-30 who are in their prime years aren't even getting sex once per year, they aren't trucels sure, but that is pretty much TFL status, probably another 10-15% of males who might have sex more than once a year but they have to pay for it. that is how bad it for a large percent of the male population.

 

[It'sAConspiracy]

It depends tbh.A kiss at 14yo isn't going through make you a chad but if you've had sex even once(especially in teenage years) then you can't be an incel, at least to me.I think having sex even just once in my life would be enough for me

 

[Mainländer]

It depends tbh.A kiss at 14yo isn't going through make you a chad but if you've had sex even once(especially in teenage years) then you can't be an incel, at least to me.I think having sex even just once in my life would be enough for me

I'd pick kissing a cute 14 yo over having sex with some older used-up slut.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

I'm not sure if they're worse off than us, but you have to imagine them being tormented over the "what if" possibilities. They have to live with immense regret over missing their chance to fulfill the potential they once had, whereas we were doomed from birth so there's no such thing as regret for us.

Yeah thats pretty much what I meant by my post, you explained it better, that element of regret and hindsight would be tough to deal with.

 

[HueHueBr]

Each and every community of men will have some sort of prominent dispute among the other men, no matter what prominence, because unconsciously prominence means foids. In the specific case of the incel community, the dispute will be for the biggest loser, even if such a highlight results in nothing.

It matters little to me if the suffering of others is less or greater than mine. My suffering is all that matters to me.