This is going to sound incredibly autistic, cringeworthy and all-around dumb, but I basically tried discussing the blackpill with my dad over the phone.
I was talking to him about my hairline, which I'm 99% sure is receding and thinning at the edges. I asked him if he had ever put thought into the genetic quality of his kids - if he had recognised that he was going to in all likelihood produce short, facially-meh, neurotic children with a lower general intelligence than him (or at the very least lower than what could have been possible) because of the lower-class foid he impregnated. I didn't ask it in these words, of course, I only used neutral, objective words that didn't make it look bad (neurotic and short but not facially shitty or manlet) on purpose.
I also brought up that this matters because vastly more men than women are celibate as a result of dating apps (used sexless, not celibate), and that statistics showing significantly more women than men have kids by the age of thirty combined with high single motherhood+out of wedlock births means the future is Japan-like sexless wageslave men acting as providers to single mothers through their taxes (I did call the children of single mothers crotch spawn, but that was the only point at which I used the term). I also gave passing mention to the fact that women have life on tutorial mode and can simply open their legs to succeed (I actually said this) and he didn't even care, which basically proves that inceltears faggotry only applies to pathetic white knights on the internet. Most bluepilled men aren't that bad even if they are pretty cucked, they just don't know any better.
Because of the first paragraph's worth of what I said, he started sobbing on the phone.
I didn't understand how this could have upset him so much until I put into context how bluepilled he was (which I wasn't able to do because I haven't spoken to anyone that isn't a relative or a doctor in several months, and people who aren't that, cashiers or university group work peers in several years, combined with autism). I had only asked him if he had taken into account what his progeny would be like, but to somebody who hasn't thought about this you're just listing off immutable flaws that you passed onto another person (not that these people even think of their unborn children and infants as human beings until they grow up fully). He said that he hated himself while he was sobbing, to which I pointed out that he was no more worthy of hate than anyone else walking around on the street, and that the opposite of all the flaws I listed was being perfect (which isn't realistic) so clearly innate flaws are something to be taken into account rather than to be stressed over for the sake of themselves, but it didn't help. He said that I was suggesting he shouldn't have had children when this was only something he had inferred from what I'd said. He said "when you have kids, you can think about that" in a way that screamed "what you're saying is awful, if you really feel the urge to say it you should apply it to yourself" because apparently genetics are so offensive you wouldn't want to force an understanding of them upon yourself. I feel bad for him, I can empathise with him and I can see why it would have offended him, but seeing as he made it and at least one major flaw he passed on (balding) has a cure (finasteride, minox) he wasn't even aware of, things surely can't be that upsetting, right? He said I shouldn't have said what I said because it was upsetting, even though he didn't deny it was true. Is he confronting the fact that it's well and truly over?
How do you discuss basic biological reality to people who have spent 45 years marinating in bluepill thinking? I don't hate my father, I am not ungrateful towards him for giving me consciousness (which I am terrified of the eventual loss of) and I certainly don't want him to feel like he failed or is a bad person. However, the blackpill is as big a part of life as somebody's work, what they eat or what they do with their time, and it's just as worthy of discussion in a conversation.
At least this has been motivation to see a dermatologist ASAP about my scalp. It's doing good by him.
I was talking to him about my hairline, which I'm 99% sure is receding and thinning at the edges. I asked him if he had ever put thought into the genetic quality of his kids - if he had recognised that he was going to in all likelihood produce short, facially-meh, neurotic children with a lower general intelligence than him (or at the very least lower than what could have been possible) because of the lower-class foid he impregnated. I didn't ask it in these words, of course, I only used neutral, objective words that didn't make it look bad (neurotic and short but not facially shitty or manlet) on purpose.
I also brought up that this matters because vastly more men than women are celibate as a result of dating apps (used sexless, not celibate), and that statistics showing significantly more women than men have kids by the age of thirty combined with high single motherhood+out of wedlock births means the future is Japan-like sexless wageslave men acting as providers to single mothers through their taxes (I did call the children of single mothers crotch spawn, but that was the only point at which I used the term). I also gave passing mention to the fact that women have life on tutorial mode and can simply open their legs to succeed (I actually said this) and he didn't even care, which basically proves that inceltears faggotry only applies to pathetic white knights on the internet. Most bluepilled men aren't that bad even if they are pretty cucked, they just don't know any better.
Because of the first paragraph's worth of what I said, he started sobbing on the phone.
I didn't understand how this could have upset him so much until I put into context how bluepilled he was (which I wasn't able to do because I haven't spoken to anyone that isn't a relative or a doctor in several months, and people who aren't that, cashiers or university group work peers in several years, combined with autism). I had only asked him if he had taken into account what his progeny would be like, but to somebody who hasn't thought about this you're just listing off immutable flaws that you passed onto another person (not that these people even think of their unborn children and infants as human beings until they grow up fully). He said that he hated himself while he was sobbing, to which I pointed out that he was no more worthy of hate than anyone else walking around on the street, and that the opposite of all the flaws I listed was being perfect (which isn't realistic) so clearly innate flaws are something to be taken into account rather than to be stressed over for the sake of themselves, but it didn't help. He said that I was suggesting he shouldn't have had children when this was only something he had inferred from what I'd said. He said "when you have kids, you can think about that" in a way that screamed "what you're saying is awful, if you really feel the urge to say it you should apply it to yourself" because apparently genetics are so offensive you wouldn't want to force an understanding of them upon yourself. I feel bad for him, I can empathise with him and I can see why it would have offended him, but seeing as he made it and at least one major flaw he passed on (balding) has a cure (finasteride, minox) he wasn't even aware of, things surely can't be that upsetting, right? He said I shouldn't have said what I said because it was upsetting, even though he didn't deny it was true. Is he confronting the fact that it's well and truly over?
How do you discuss basic biological reality to people who have spent 45 years marinating in bluepill thinking? I don't hate my father, I am not ungrateful towards him for giving me consciousness (which I am terrified of the eventual loss of) and I certainly don't want him to feel like he failed or is a bad person. However, the blackpill is as big a part of life as somebody's work, what they eat or what they do with their time, and it's just as worthy of discussion in a conversation.
At least this has been motivation to see a dermatologist ASAP about my scalp. It's doing good by him.
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