Serious How do bluepilled incels motivate themselves?

[Deleted member 8353]

I've been thinking about how I managed to get to this point in my life, why I spent so much time in my room. Of course I have a lot of problems which I've mentioned before(social phobia due to bullying, anxiety, developmental issues), but the actual reason why I never could resolve them is because I lacked any motivation to do so. I would think "well I'd still be ugly", or "girls wouldn't like me anyway", and due to this I could never muster the will to stop myself from descending into this pit of isolation and despondency.

But what I don't understand is that surely bluepilledcels received a lot of the same negative reinforcement that I did, so how do they be productive? I'm not talking about incels who have to wageslave to survive and haven't been enabled to be complete social exiles like myself. I'm talking about incels who managed to careermaxx, or those who have at least attempted to do so. Basically incels who do more than the bare minimum. It seems like men who don't get sex have their motivation destroyed, or at least that's how it's been for me.

Do bluepillers have lower libidos?
Do bluepillers delusionmaxx to the point where their imagined future sexual success is a real thing within their minds?

Sometimes I think that the problem with motivation is exclusive to me, as the only positive thing really capable of motivating me is my desire for sex and physical intimacy with females. But since that's proven to be an impossibility, I find myself unable to move forward and overcome my problems. The effort involved is too great for essentially no reward for doing so, as I'm not opposed to sucide when I can no longer rot.

 

[ShiiOfTheSPLC]

 

[Joelossus]

It's really hard to say, especially since i always lacked motivation myself. Just like you, sex and the desire for female companionship were pretty much my only motivators. And this hasn't really changed. Idk if we lack some kind of component that normie men have access to. Maybe we just got more negative reinforcment than they did, maybe their parents were more supportive. And made the develope a healthy reward sytsem, which is something i definitly lack. But in the end this is all just speculative, as i don't know the true answer either.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

It's really hard to say, especially since i always lacked motivation myself. Just like you, sex and the desire for female companionship were pretty much my only motivators. And this hasn't really changed. Idk if we lack some kind of component that normie men have access to. Maybe we just got more negative reinforcment than they did, maybe their parents were more supportive. And made the develope a healthy reward sytsem, which is something i definitly lack. But in the end this is all just speculative, as i don't know the true answer either.

Most likely it's due to us recieving more negative reinforcement, and the fact that we no longer believe in future success as a result. Or maybe it's something else which I just don't possess. I don't really enjoy most things, it could be that others just get far more pleasure out of living than I do. But ultimately idk.

 

[Deleted member 26421]

Because bluepillers believe that there is “someone for everybody” and that’s how they hold on hope

 

[your personality]

Do bluepillers delusionmaxx to the point where their imagined future sexual success is a real thing within their minds?

Tbh if you look at bluepilled Christian men what is the thing that they always longingly take about? Having a faithful wife and kids.
What does an aspiring bluepilled incel engineer hope? That one day if you gets prominent enough women might take another look at him and start treating him more like he is a successful man.

The imagined future sexual success and living it up with women in some form or the other is very much a real thing within their minds.
The hope they'll find a woman is what keeps them going and encourages them to try to maxx out areas of their life.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Tbh if you look at bluepilled Christian men what is the thing that they always longingly take about? Having a faithful wife and kids.
What does an aspiring bluepilled incel engineer hope? That one day if you gets prominent enough women might take another look at him and start treating him more like he is a successful man.

The imagined future sexual success and living it up with women in some form or the other is very much a real thing within their minds.
The hope they'll find a woman is what keeps them going and encourages them to try to maxx out areas of their life.

Maybe I've just been hopeless for so long that I don't understand them. But it's not like my perception is inaccurate, as I really have nothing to look forward to, I can't even be a bluepilled betabuxxer because I have no monetary value to steal. JFL.

 

[your personality]

Maybe I've just been hopeless for so long that I don't understand them. But it's not like my perception is inaccurate, as I really have nothing to look forward to, I can't even be a bluepilled betabuxxer because I have no monetary value to steal. JFL.

I hate the sudden trend of self improvement. It's obvious it's completely one sided and meant to make previously satisfied non chad males feel miserable about their lives.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I hate the sudden trend of self improvement. It's obvious it's completely one sided and meant to make previously satisfied non chad males feel miserable about their lives.

I don't give a shit about what others think, at least not in that sense. Tbh I absolutely hate being outside, can't tolerate other people, the only thing I don't like about my life is the lack of sex and physical intimacy. Of course the problem is that I couldn't have those things even if I did manage to rejoin society, so basically the result would be making myself less comfortable for no reason. I guess maybe someday I could escortcel, but I'm not sure that I'd even be able to enjoy that as I would be uncomfortable, and I'm so incredibly high inhib that I doubt it's even possible for me. Everything about being a functional adult stresses me out to an unreasonable degree, and only feel alright in my room. Really I wish I would've done something years ago when I was still capable of at least pretending to be normal.

 

[your personality]

Tbh I absolutely hate being outside, can't tolerate other people, the only thing I don't like about my life is the lack of sex and physical intimacy.

Tbh just go outdoors bro is reddit tier advice

Of course the problem is that I couldn't have those things even if I did manage to rejoin society, so basically the result would be making myself less comfortable for no reason. I guess maybe someday I could escortcel, but I'm not sure that I'd even be able to enjoy that as I would be uncomfortable, and I'm so incredibly high inhib that I doubt it's even possible for me. Everything about being a functional adult stresses me out to an unreasonable degree, and only feel alright in my room. Really I wish I would've done something years ago when I was still capable of at least pretending to be normal.

There's nothing you could do to change what has happened imo
If people around you and society are dead set on treating you a certain way the outcome is all the same in the end.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

There's nothing you could do to change what has happened imo
If people around you and society are dead set on treating you a certain way the outcome is all the same in the end.

I agree, but it's hard not to think about it. Obviously if I could've done something different I would've, as I didn't become like this intentionally. Lol@ my life tbh.

 

[your personality]

I agree, but it's hard not to think about it.

I thought you said at first that "you try not to think of it" and it reminded me of what normies would say.
It's definitely hard not to think about things.
"Just stop thinking about things so much bro" is another reddit tier quip.

Obviously if I could've done something different I would've, as I didn't become like this intentionally. Lol@ my life tbh.

Imo again if women and society were dead set on treating you and viewing you a certain way no matter who you behaved then there was never really hope to begin with.
I tried NTmaxxing, fitting in by "fixing my atittude", behaving more like others. Nothing worked I was still treated the same in the end.

Normies say you can't force people to like you. It's very true but it's also true that you can't change the fact that people will make the decision on whether they decide to outcast you and look down on you condescendingly for any reason if that has been your experience with most people.
It's others that determined people here could never live a normal life.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I thought you said at first that "you try not to think of it" and it reminded me of what normies would say.
It's definitely hard not to think about things.
"Just stop thinking about things so much bro" is another reddit tier quip.



Imo again if women and society were dead set on treating you and viewing you a certain way no matter who you behaved then there was never really hope to begin with.
I tried NTmaxxing, fitting in by "fixing my atittude", behaving more like others. Nothing worked I was still treated the same in the end.

Normies say you can't force people to like you. It's very true but it's also true that you can't change the fact that people will make the decision on whether they decide to outcast you and look down on you condescendingly for any reason if that has been your experience with most people.
It's others that determined people here could never live a normal life.

It's probably the case that trying to fix my life at this point is cope, and I should try to simply be content with my experiences as they are now, but that's easier said than done. I mean regardless of the fact that I'd be treated as a permanent outsider, I also don't have an unlimited amount of time. I'm basically on the same level as a particularly dysfunctional teenager, and yet I'm 26. I'm missing many basic life skills, I have almost no work experience, and everything is difficult for me. How am I going to manage to overcome that? It seems near impossible, or at least any success I would find probably would be less rewarding than just continuing to rot until I can't anymore and kms.

Honestly I think it's beyond over for me. Maybe I should go back to copemaxxing with anime and video games and just resign myself to being a complete failure. Of course I know that it's not really my fault that I have these problems, but that doesn't stop me from feeling bad about it.

 

[your personality]

It's probably the case that trying to fix my life at this point is cope, and I should try to simply be content with my experiences as they are now, but that's easier said than done. I mean regardless of the fact that I'd be treated as a permanent outsider, I also don't have an unlimited amount of time. I'm basically on the same level as a particularly dysfunctional teenager, and yet I'm 26. I'm missing many basic life skills, I have almost no work experience, and everything is difficult for me. How am I going to manage to overcome that? It seems near impossible, or at least any success I would find probably would be less rewarding than just continuing to rot until I can't anymore and kms.

I know I wish I was content with accepting how things are and that it could be worse but it's easier said than done.

Honestly I think it's beyond over for me. Maybe I should go back to copemaxxing with anime and video games and just resign myself to being a complete failure. Of course I know that it's not really my fault that I have these problems, but that doesn't stop me from feeling bad about it.

It's been impossible to do since others have picked up on unattractive males copemaxxing with anime and video games and shaming them for it. No thanks to reddit and twitter mainly.
Everything you can use to escape they name, analyze and discuss to the death before normies start co-opting those copes and then kicking unattractive males out of them.
The edgy people interested in counter culture and incels are the worst example of this. Give me a generic normie interested in sports that has never heard of incels or feminism to be around and hang out with anyday over those kind of people.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

It's been impossible to do since others have picked up on unattractive males copemaxxing with anime and video games and shaming them for it. No thanks to reddit and twitter mainly.
Everything you can use to escape they name, analyze and discuss to the death before normies start co-opting those copes and then kicking unattractive males out of them.
The edgy people interested in counter culture and incels are the worst example of this. Give me a generic normie interested in sports that has never heard of incels or feminism to be around and hang out with anyday over those kind of people.

I could still enjoy coping up until a couple years ago, I was so consumed by escapism that it's all I thought about, and I was pretty content. Surely if I felt like that once I can do so again. It's just that at one point I couldn't stop thinking about how I was getting older, and how time seems to pass so quickly. I realized that I would spend my entire life playing video games, as well as watching and hearing about other people experiencing life without me.

Tbh I shouldn't have indulged this thinking, as the only reason I was coping in my room was because I was already a complete reject in the first place, it wasn't even a conscious choice on my part. I believe that I'd feel better if I could simply accept that my life experiences are going to be very different than those of most people, and to just try to focus on things which I enjoy in my room.

 

[your personality]

I could still enjoy coping up until a couple years ago, I was so consumed by escapism that it's all I thought about, and I was pretty content. Surely if I felt like that once I can do so again. It's just that at one I couldn't stop thinking about how I was getting older, and how time seems to pass so quickly. I realized that I would spend my entire life playing video games, as well as watching and hearing about other people experiencing life without me.

Tbh I don't know what changed but that seems to have happened to a lot of guys. What can you expect when society constantly taunts you with messages about how you'll regret rotting and retreating into escapism.
At some point most guys just internalize this and feel miserable again.

Tbh I shouldn't have indulged this thinking, as the only reason I was coping in my room was because I was already a complete reject in the first place, it wasn't even a conscious choice on my part.

The 2016 election and meme magic and how manosphere concepts pushing the inherent worth of women compared to men probably indirectly ruined a lot of men's lives. But you'll never hear this told from a non bluepilled perspective.
I had a feeling this would happen like it's destiny for these uncomfortable insights previously discovered by outcast ugly males to surface again and again until society decides to arrogantly take credit for them and spin the narrative so it further oppresses outcast ugly males.

I believe that I'd feel better if I could simply accept that my life experiences are going to be very different than those of most people, and to just try to focus on things which I enjoy in my room.

This is the kind of thing a lot of women do which makes it hard to indulge in that kind of thing once you have seen women and more successful members of society doing what you do but having been through none of the struggle.
I really hate how meditation, yoga and spirituality has taken off among normies meanwhile they are as cruel hearted and shallow as ever.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Tbh I don't know what changed but that seems to have happened to a lot of guys. What can you expect when society constantly taunts you with messages about how you'll regret rotting and retreating into escapism.
At some point most guys just internalize this and feel miserable again.

It was just my age really. For me the past 8 or so years passed extremely quickly, as it was just the same experiences over and over, no way to tell the difference between the days. Eventually I started to realized how much time I spent rotting. In fairness being on this forum makes it worse, as it constantly reminds me of my life. It's just painful realizing that you'll never be normal. It's also possible that things like touch starvation were starting to get to me. I can't even converse irl anymore, I lost the ability to do so.

The 2016 election and meme magic and how manosphere concepts pushing the inherent worth of women compared to men probably indirectly ruined a lot of men's lives. But you'll never hear this told from a non bluepilled perspective.
I had a feeling this would happen like it's destiny for these uncomfortable insights previously discovered by outcast ugly males to surface again and again until society decides to arrogantly take credit for them and spin the narrative so it further oppresses outcast ugly males.

It was around 2018 for me I think, maybe 2017, idk it's hard to differentiate the years, either way it led to me joining this forum eventually.

This is the kind of thing a lot of women do which makes it hard to indulge in that kind of thing once you have seen women and more successful members of society doing what you do but having been through none of the struggle.
I really hate how meditation, yoga and spirituality has taken off among normies meanwhile they are as cruel hearted and shallow as ever.

Yeah it's really hard to accept what you have when you've been rejected your entire life. Ironically enough I could probably feel okay living like this if I had better past experiences, yet it's my past experiences which cause me to live like this in the first place. It's kinda funny when I think about it.

 

[your personality]

It was just my age really. For me the past 8 or so years passed extremely quickly, as it was just the same experiences over and over, no way to tell the difference between the days. Eventually I started to realized how much time I spent rotting. In fairness being on this forum makes it worse, as it constantly reminds me of my life. It's just painful realizing that you'll never be normal. It's also possible that things like touch starvation were starting to get to me. I can't even converse irl anymore, I lost the ability to do so.

On the bright side you've mentioned you still go out to get groceries. That's better than nothing and imo if no one is treating you weirdly compared to others it's better than going out and failing at starting conversation or trying to be as social as everyone else.

It was around 2018 for me I think, maybe 2017, idk it's hard to differentiate the years, either way it led to me joining this forum eventually.

That's when edgy counter culture people that mentioned incel and manosphere topics started getting prominent on social media and gender war debates were all over.
It was over every sub on reddit.
If there is one cope that is probably true for incels it is that reddit is a site full of bluepilled incels and failed normies whose only accomplishment in life is having sex.
I hope reddit never gets as mainstream as other social media sites even though they are trying to make it seem that way with the banwaves. It has also ruined everything obscure because redditors overdo corny memes about it and insert sex jokes everywhere into topics that don't even have to do directly with sex.

Maybe the same with youtube really.
The only hope/cope you can retain that people aren't that bad is that a lot of the comments designed to stir angst in unattractive males who are doing poorly is deliberately astroturfed by special interest groups and social media "experts" conducting behavioral experiments on people that visit their sites.
But normies throughout history show they are capable of the same cruelty and callous whitewashing and co-option of the condition of low status males.

Yeah it's really hard to accept what you have when you've been rejected your entire life. Ironically enough I could probably feel okay living like this if I had better past experiences, yet it's my past experiences which cause me to live like this in the first place. It's kinda funny when I think about it.

What the discussions on this site and how many people have the experiences we have to an uncanny degree shows is that we aren't really special or different in a bad or good way. We are just people who could have been normies but weren't able to because others made the decision to outcast us and treat us differently mostly because we were seen as unattractive.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

On the bright side you've mentioned you still go out to get groceries. That's better than nothing and imo if no one is treating you weirdly compared to others it's better than going out and failing at starting conversation or trying to be as social as everyone else.

Yeah I have to go outside every so often, can't even imagine how bad I would be if I literally hadn't left the house at all in 8 years, considering how fucked up I already am.

That's when edgy counter culture people that mentioned incel and manosphere topics started getting prominent on social media and gender war debates were all over.
It was over every sub on reddit.
If there is one cope that is probably true for incels it is that reddit is a site full of bluepilled incels and failed normies whose only accomplishment in life is having sex.
I hope reddit never gets as mainstream as other social media sites even though they are trying to make it seem that way with the banwaves. It has also ruined everything obscure because redditors overdo corny memes about it and insert sex jokes everywhere into topics that don't even have to do directly with sex.

Maybe the same with youtube really.
The only hope/cope you can retain that people aren't that bad is that a lot of the comments designed to stir angst in unattractive males who are doing poorly is deliberately astroturfed by special interest groups and social media "experts" conducting behavioral experiments on people that visit their sites.
But normies throughout history show they are capable of the same cruelty and callous whitewashing and co-option of the condition of low status males.

I hate that shit too. How am I supposed to cope with never having sex when people constantly talk about and reference sex? It's like they're deliberately trying to alienate me when I've done nothing to them. People I talk to online know about the fact that I'm incel, and don't talk about relationships or sex to me, even the non-incels. But you can't really avoid it when it comes to random people online.

It's like they pretend to be better than you for something that you can't even help. How is it my fault that women rejected me? I have no control over other people, I can't control the bone structure of my face, or that I was bullied into self-isolation.

What the discussions on this site and how many people have the experiences we have to an uncanny degree shows is that we aren't really special or different in a bad or good way. We are just people who could have been normies but weren't able to because others made the decision to outcast us and treat us differently mostly because we were seen as unattractive.

True, I could've been normal if people treated me better. I just need to stop thinking about the past at all, as I can't do anything to change it now.

 

[your personality]

Yeah I have to go outside every so often, can't even imagine how bad I would be if I literally hadn't left the house at all in 8 years, considering how fucked up I already am.

That would be a worse situation than now. Going to the store you at least learn how to walk normally among other people and are constantly provided with the chance how to better learn to not attract unnecessary attention to yourself.

I hate that shit too. How am I supposed to cope with never having sex when people constantly talk about and reference sex? It's like they're deliberately trying to alienate me when I've done nothing to them. People I talk to online know about the fact that I'm incel, and don't talk about relationships or sex to me, even the non-incels. But you can't really avoid it when it comes to random people online.

It's like they pretend to be better than you for something that you can't even help. How is it my fault that women rejected me? I have no control over other people, I can't control the bone structure of my face, or that I was bullied into self-isolation.

I see it more as people deliberately trying to rub in that they get sex and have successful relationships with women and others don't to whoever may be listening.
This is definitely true of all the half assed "mocking" subs on reddit.

It's not yyour fault women rejected you. That was something they chose to do just like them making time to hate on unattractive males on social media .

True, I could've been normal if people treated me better. I just need to stop thinking about the past at all, as I can't do anything to change it now.

Imo we can't stop thinking about this because thinking helps avoid people here from making rash and embarassing low inhib decisions in public. A lot here cannot afford to be talkative or low inhib and try to ignore things. It's what got them bullied more in the first place when they didn't accept the subtle signs people were sending that they weren't viewed as normal or welcome even if they stayed quiet but remained in the vicinity of others.