grondilu
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Incels are painfully aware of the notion biological determinism, but the rest of society seems to pretend this concept does not exist.
Normies don't deny biological determinism when it's obvious to them. For instance, people born with obvious disabilities get recognized and get special treatment in the form of say welfare benefits. Which is fine, I guess.
Other biological disadvantages are ignored when they don't directly threaten survival or social integration.
However, it's more than being ignored. It's being denied and hidden. There are cases when not only they will tell you nothing is wrong with you, but they will prevent you from checking.
I will not try to explain their reasons, but I would like to point out something about determinism : it's kind of paradoxical. In the same way that time travel is paradoxical.
Determinism implies that you know what the future will be like. Yet, you are currently in the present. Therefore, you are in a similar situation as a future you that would have traveled into the past. So, you are subjected to the same kinds of paradoxes.
Imagine for instance that there was a genetic condition that makes people lazy. If someone had this condition and was aware of it, I bet he'd use it as an excuse not to work or to work at an accommodated schedule. I'm not saying he necessarily would, but all other things being equal, he would certainly put more effort in his work if he wasn't aware of his condition.
My point is : biological determinism does not work well with everything that involves behavioral traits. The reason is that with behavior, prediction of the future has to include the consequences of the knowledge of the prediction. There is a logical circularity, here. A mise en abyme.
I often think that's what Nietzsche had in mind when he wrote : "when you look down at the abyss, the abyss looks back at you".
It's also why, IMHO, prophecies in antiquity used to be cryptic : to be fulfilled they had to not be understood by whoever was concerned.
Normies don't deny biological determinism when it's obvious to them. For instance, people born with obvious disabilities get recognized and get special treatment in the form of say welfare benefits. Which is fine, I guess.
Other biological disadvantages are ignored when they don't directly threaten survival or social integration.
However, it's more than being ignored. It's being denied and hidden. There are cases when not only they will tell you nothing is wrong with you, but they will prevent you from checking.
I will not try to explain their reasons, but I would like to point out something about determinism : it's kind of paradoxical. In the same way that time travel is paradoxical.
Determinism implies that you know what the future will be like. Yet, you are currently in the present. Therefore, you are in a similar situation as a future you that would have traveled into the past. So, you are subjected to the same kinds of paradoxes.
Imagine for instance that there was a genetic condition that makes people lazy. If someone had this condition and was aware of it, I bet he'd use it as an excuse not to work or to work at an accommodated schedule. I'm not saying he necessarily would, but all other things being equal, he would certainly put more effort in his work if he wasn't aware of his condition.
My point is : biological determinism does not work well with everything that involves behavioral traits. The reason is that with behavior, prediction of the future has to include the consequences of the knowledge of the prediction. There is a logical circularity, here. A mise en abyme.
I often think that's what Nietzsche had in mind when he wrote : "when you look down at the abyss, the abyss looks back at you".
It's also why, IMHO, prophecies in antiquity used to be cryptic : to be fulfilled they had to not be understood by whoever was concerned.
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