Serious How bad are things going to get?

[honkcel]

When a significant number of men are unable to obtain partners, violence inevitably rises. We see this fact manifest throughout the world. In Asia, were sex selection abortion ran rampant, there are millions of men whom even in an ideal world would have no partner. These facts have consequences. Violence. Studies show that when men are unable to find a bride, violence increases. This is due to the fact that the only men who will be able to obtain a wife are those that are the richest and otherwise well off(Chad). Further exacerbating the problem, those men who typically well off are older men, older men who take additional younger women away from their same age peers. The end result is millions of lonely, lower class, angry young men with not much to lose. Young men whose innate drive for sex is second only to those things that keep them alive. The results are honestly predictable. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5983495/



Whether women literally aren’t around, or whether women simply avoid and shun a large portion of those men, what is the effective difference for those men that don’t have an opportunity for a partner? In 2014 Elliot Roger committed his attack, and since then more attacks have followed and “incel” has gone from a vague term to a commonly thrown insult. In 2014 it appears that approximately 17 percent of men between the ages of 18 and 30 were virgins, with that number being now 27 percent and not seeming to slow down. How bad will things get when 27 percent goes to 40 percent? 50 percent?! You can change the culture, but you can’t change biology. Society is playing a dangerous game. I don’t want violence, and I don't condone violence, but it almost seems inevitable at this point.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

the problem has only begun to manifest itself. These few and far between shootings are nothing compared to what awaits these normie cocksuckers

 

[OmniVoid]

The hundreds of millions of lumpenproletarians in the third world with nothing to lose will make for quite a show.

 

[honkcel]

the problem has only begun to manifest itself. These few and far between shootings are nothing compared to what awaits these normie cocksuckers

You'd think those in charge would take some proactive action on the issue. If for no other reason than to suit their own long term interests.

 

[chazitsoverr]

No ones ever going to take the time in mainstream media to connect the rise of incels to the rise of mass shootings. They’re just going to continue constantly blaming muh guns and muh toxic masculinity.

 

[KingChemist]

Things will only get worse.

 

[honkcel]

No ones ever going to take the time in mainstream media to connect the rise of incels to the rise of mass shootings. They’re just going to continue constantly blaming muh guns and muh toxic masculinity.

I agree. But not only do they fail to connect the dots, the push agendas that will only exacerbate the issue.

 

[Permafrost]

So, what this article and your thread is saying is pretty much that men need women. They have to at least fuck women, or they will go berzerk.

How does this rhyme with MGTOW ideology that states that men don't need women for anything at all? Or is it the fucking that is the point where they can agree that foids are necessary?

 

[Deleted member 12355]

You'd think those in charge would take some proactive action on the issue. If for no other reason than to suit their own long term interests.

sexual liberation benefits them up until a point as it's very easy to control the men through the women. Women become an instrument of the ruling elite, a vehicle through which their hegemony is secured. Up until a point though, and we see this time and time again. The elites become drunk on their own lust to power and proceed to blind fully and foolishly pursue whatever's worked for them in the past, unable to fathom that the social landscape and power dynamics are constantly changing as a function of their tyrannical overreach. The lower classes become so weak and disenfranchised that they no longer have anything to lose, and power becomes so concentrated that there is everything to gain from putting one's life on the line in order to challenge their hegemony and thereby perhaps get a hold of a tiny bit of that power.

 

[KingOfRome]

Things will only get worse.

 

[BrettyBoy]

Things will only get worse.

 

[honkcel]

So, what this article and your thread is saying is pretty much that men need women. They have to at least fuck women, or they will go berzerk.

How does this rhyme with MGTOW ideology that states that men don't need women for anything at all? Or is it the fucking that is the point where they can agree that foids are necessary?

Yes men need women. The need for women is baked into the very core. The need and drive for reproduction. With regards to MGTOW, maybe some men don't need women, but for a stable society you can't have a large group of fighting age men with little to lose having no sexual outlet.

sexual liberation benefits them up until a point as it's very easy to control the men through the women. Women become an instrument of the ruling elite, a vehicle through which their hegemony is secured. Up until a point though, and we see this time and time again. The elites become drunk on their own lust to power and proceed to blind fully and foolishly pursue whatever's worked for them in the past, unable to fathom that the social landscape and power dynamics are constantly changing as a function of their tyrannical overreach. The lower classes become so weak and disenfranchised that they no longer have anything to lose, and power becomes so concentrated that there is everything to gain from putting one's life on the line in order to challenge their hegemony and thereby perhaps get a hold of a tiny bit of that power.

Ah I see what you mean. Get men to give you power by using sexuality and women as the vehicle. Until that is... you go to far.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

The hundreds of millions of lumpenproletarians in the third world with nothing to lose will make for quite a show.

the problem has only begun to manifest itself. These few and far between shootings are nothing compared to what awaits these normie cocksuckers

Things will only get worse.

 

[Joelossus]

How does this rhyme with MGTOW ideology that states that men don't need women for anything at all? Or is it the fucking that is the point where they can agree that foids are necessary?

No they wouldn't. They would rather blame the shooters lack of discipline, or his lack of knowlege regarding womens true nature, which ironically enough they are the ones who have no fucking clue about it.

 

[Permafrost]

Yes men need women. The need for women is baked into the very core. The need and drive for reproduction. With regards to MGTOW, maybe some men don't need women, but for a stable society you can't have a large group of fighting age men with little to lose having no sexual outlet.

So the MGTOWs are mostly wrong then?

 

[Deleted member 1780]

American gun laws + Incel men is the worst combo possibility for society.

 

[honkcel]

So the MGTOWs are mostly wrong then?

For men as a whole with regards to the need for women? Definitely. I am sure that some individual men can go without, but probably not without a cost his overall well being when compared to an ideal scenario.

American gun laws + Incel men is the worst combo possibility for society.

Cucks will call for banning guns and try to ignore the problem until even without guns the problem is to big to ignore.

 

[Permafrost]

American gun laws + Incel men is the worst combo possibility for society.

That is kind of true.

Generally speaking, I don't think there will be an incel rebellion. Rebellions have to be organized. Incels don't organize. If we were socially competent enough to organize, we would not be incels. The most likely development is that some other type of movements will form that will absorb the more energetic incels to use as foot soldiers. Probably salafis, nazis or the likeness of it. The ideologies have strong undercurrents about sex. The rest of the incels will keep ldaring, ascend or rope. We are not a force building up, we are arrested development.

 

[LastGerman]

When a significant number of men are unable to obtain partners, violence inevitably rises

I do not see any violence. I just see that men are rotting.

 

[honkcel]

That is kind of true.

Generally speaking, I don't think there will be an incel rebellion. Rebellions have to be organized. Incels don't organize. If we were socially competent enough to organize, we would not be incels. The most likely development is that some other type of movements will form that will absorb the more energetic incels to use as foot soldiers. Probably salafis, nazis or the likeness of it. The ideologies have strong undercurrents about sex. The rest of the incels will keep ldaring, ascend or rope. We are not a force building up, we are arrested development.

Probably true. I think incels are the canaries in the coal mine so to say with regards to society. Big social unrest is coming.

 

[Angry_runt]

1. Please remove that Nazi avatar, you're upsetting IncelTears

2. You think it's bad being in the 27%, try being in the 7%

 

[Permafrost]

Probably true. I think incels are the canaries in the coal mine so to say with regards to society. Big social unrest is coming.

You could be right about that. If more normies start seeing the prospects of a life with acceptable levels of pussy slipping away from them, then something might happen.

 

[Deleted member 1780]

Probably true. I think incels are the canaries in the coal mine so to say with regards to society. Big social unrest is coming.

Even without the problem of incels 2020-2030 will be rough if not catastrophic due to climate change.

Food shortages could hit even developed nations due to grains not being able to grow within the next couple of years.
To add to this, there will likely be tens of millions of climate refugees.

How will the developed nations respond? Taking them in will lead to chaos. Closing your borders will lead to chaos. There is no way out.

We are cooked.

 

[honkcel]

1. Please remove that Nazi avatar, you're upsetting IncelTears

2. You think it's bad being in the 27%, try being in the 7%
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1. kek I saw that. Imagine not understanding the meme. Its quite simple really, we live in a clown world.
2. It's bad being in either, but with respects to a healthy society, the growing 27 percent seems like a larger concern.

 

[Permafrost]

1. Please remove that Nazi avatar, you're upsetting IncelTears

2. You think it's bad being in the 27%, try being in the 7%
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If you are 35, and you haven't gotten laid or caused any major ruckus in any direction yet, you won't do anything about your situation after that. You have, conciously or subconciously accepted your life as an evolutionary dud. So no matter how depressed you are, society won't care. You wont bother anyone.

 

[Angry_runt]

2. It's bad being in either, but with respects to a healthy society, the growing 27 percent seems like a larger concern.

Jfl caring about society. It's a clown world remember?

 

[honkcel]

Jfl caring about society. It's a clown world remember?

I care about the development because either things will get better, or get much worse then get better. You are right fuck the current clown world.

 

[Wonder]

The hundreds of millions of lumpenproletarians in the third world with nothing to lose will make for quite a show.

 

[Hikikomori]

Oh you haven't seen anything yet, the 20/80 rule is going to be the 5/95 rule a decade from now. The good news is, we're not alone in this, the bad news is, it still fucking sucks that this is the way things turned out for us.

 

[Incline]

It will take some time but its coming. Democracy is a corrupt system it needs to be reset every once and then to cleanse it of all the cancer that grew into it. Men with nothing to lose will initiate the structural collapse.

 

[FlyFace]

You'd think those in charge would take some proactive action on the issue. If for no other reason than to suit their own long term interests.

It's their plan, get Men to revolt and then swoop in, quell the rebellion, declare feminist superiority over masculinity and take all of Men's rights away.. under the great guise of keeping everyone "safe".

I agree. But not only do they fail to connect the dots, the push agendas that will only exacerbate the issue.

When Men have had enough and actively begin to demand sex the media will double down in their smear campaign against the Male gender. It will be the myth of "Toxic Masculinity" manifest, that Foids created through their own preferences, but Men will be blamed for it. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain in a war on Men. They want this inequality. Child Shitters have done this and the media helps in creating the culture of confirmation bias around them, making them untouchable with the amount of brainwashed Soys surrounding them.

The lower classes become so weak and disenfranchised that they no longer have anything to lose, and power becomes so concentrated that there is everything to gain from putting one's life on the line in order to challenge their hegemony and thereby perhaps get a hold of a tiny bit of that power.

I feel a strong resonation with this statement. I can almost feel the street buzzing with anger at the current state of politics. The amount of power that the political elites have is insane.. the amount of power concentrated in London.

This graph shows why economic inequality between the regions is a huge problem. https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN05795/SN05795.pdf it's on page 6.

2. You think it's bad being in the 27%, try being in the 7%

Hmm.. here's a thought. What happens when the Men who are 18-29 are in the 30-39 bracket? Having no social help will form a culture of Foids not caring about a Mans quality of life and unrestricted Hypergamy.. what will happen to the new 18-29 year olds? More Incels to the cause? Truly the sexual inequality and the bloated value of Foids on the sexual marketplace is untenable in the long run. Too many Men are going to be left out when only the most gifted specimens of Males are given access to breeding rights. Even in the long run, if major violence in the west only lasts a week, the consequences of such a desperate and concentrated violent outbreak will be historic and the consequences of such a conflict will be seen and felt for generations.

1. It's bad being in either, but with respects to a healthy society, the growing 27 percent seems like a larger concern.

That 27% of Men that don't have good social skills will be the next Men to be 30-39 without any real reason to live, dealing with feelings of inner disenfranchisement. Our number can only inflate.

 

[The Abyss]

So, what this article and your thread is saying is pretty much that men need women. They have to at least fuck women, or they will go berzerk.

How does this rhyme with MGTOW ideology that states that men don't need women for anything at all? Or is it the fucking that is the point where they can agree that foids are necessary?

Mstow, it's cope but at the same time if something hurts you why stay around it? If men & government would not give them endless validation & money they would be forced to tow the line more & reign in their shitty attitudes.

 

[ThirdWorldcel]

Incel revolution is unlikely to happen for the reasons previously stated by fellow brocels. I think we'll see more and more incels going ER from 2020 to 2030. At first, we'll see very unorganized attacks, for example an ER worshipper with an AK47 at a big party or a feminist march, progressively later we'll see more and more organized attacks, probably culminating with a very organized attack at some place like Ibiza or Isla Vista.

It's their plan, get Men to revolt and then swoop in, quell the rebellion, declare feminist superiority over masculinity and take all of Men's rights away.. under the great guise of keeping everyone "safe".

When Men have had enough and actively begin to demand sex the media will double down in their smear campaign against the Male gender. It will be the myth of "Toxic Masculinity" manifest, that Foids created through their own preferences, but Men will be blamed for it. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain in a war on Men. They want this inequality. Child Shitters have done this and the media helps in creating the culture of confirmation bias around them, making them untouchable with the amount of brainwashed Soys surrounding them.

I feel a strong resonation with this statement. I can almost feel the street buzzing with anger at the current state of politics. The amount of power that the political elites have is insane.. the amount of power concentrated in London.
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This graph shows why economic inequality between the regions is a huge problem. https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN05795/SN05795.pdf it's on page 6.

Hmm.. here's a thought. What happens when the Men who are 18-29 are in the 30-39 bracket? Having no social help will form a culture of Foids not caring about a Mans quality of life and unrestricted Hypergamy.. what will happen to the new 18-29 year olds? More Incels to the cause? Truly the sexual inequality and the bloated value of Foids on the sexual marketplace is untenable in the long run. Too many Men are going to be left out when only the most gifted specimens of Males are given access to breeding rights. Even in the long run, if major violence in the west only lasts a week, the consequences of such a desperate and concentrated violent outbreak will be historic and the consequences of such a conflict will be seen and felt for generations.

That 27% of Men that don't have good social skills will be the next Men to be 30-39 without any real reason to live, dealing with feelings of inner disenfranchisement. Our number can only inflate.

Some men will go ER while others will just accept it and will perceive sex and dating as luxury commodities that only top tier men have access to, just like happens with mansions and yatch.

 

[Ugly_equals_Death]

Incel genocide.

Thats how bad it is going to get.

 

[Smallondick]

40-50%

 

[よっこま]

Things will only get worse.

 

[ihaveno1]

i just want to watch everything burn

 

[Michael15651]

Things need a reset.

 

[Deleted member 11032]

When a significant number of men are unable to obtain partners, violence inevitably rises. We see this fact manifest throughout the world. In Asia, were sex selection abortion ran rampant, there are millions of men whom even in an ideal world would have no partner. These facts have consequences. Violence. Studies show that when men are unable to find a bride, violence increases. This is due to the fact that the only men who will be able to obtain a wife are those that are the richest and otherwise well off(Chad). Further exacerbating the problem, those men who typically well off are older men, older men who take additional younger women away from their same age peers. The end result is millions of lonely, lower class, angry young men with not much to lose. Young men whose innate drive for sex is second only to those things that keep them alive. The results are honestly predictable. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5983495/



Whether women literally aren’t around, or whether women simply avoid and shun a large portion of those men, what is the effective difference for those men that don’t have an opportunity for a partner? In 2014 Elliot Roger committed his attack, and since then more attacks have followed and “incel” has gone from a vague term to a commonly thrown insult. In 2014 it appears that approximately 17 percent of men between the ages of 18 and 30 were virgins, with that number being now 27 percent and not seeming to slow down. How bad will things get when 27 percent goes to 40 percent? 50 percent?! You can change the culture, but you can’t change biology. Society is playing a dangerous game. I don’t want violence, and I don't condone violence, but it almost seems inevitable at this point.

Violence is a byproduct of intrasexual selection. When intersexual selection is eliminated (through Tinder and hypergamy) men are left with intrasexual selection only. Basic anthropology yo.

You'd think those in charge would take some proactive action on the issue. If for no other reason than to suit their own long term interests.

Why do you think they care? Most males are too bluepilled to understand they're being screwed.

So, what this article and your thread is saying is pretty much that men need women. They have to at least fuck women, or they will go berzerk.

How does this rhyme with MGTOW ideology that states that men don't need women for anything at all? Or is it the fucking that is the point where they can agree that foids are necessary?

MGTOW is cope.

Even without the problem of incels 2020-2030 will be rough if not catastrophic due to climate change.

Food shortages could hit even developed nations due to grains not being able to grow within the next couple of years.
To add to this, there will likely be tens of millions of climate refugees.

How will the developed nations respond? Taking them in will lead to chaos. Closing your borders will lead to chaos. There is no way out.

We are cooked.

Climate change is a meme.

It will take some time but its coming. Democracy is a corrupt system it needs to be reset every once and then to cleanse it of all the cancer that grew into it. Men with nothing to lose will initiate the structural collapse.

High iq.

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Sexual liberation for them is just another word of "disregard a large amount of the population and only go for the top tier because i am free to do so"

 

[Deleted member 16455]

Things will only get worse.