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India is not incel friendly. They are absurdly blue pilled and treat black pilled incels like shit.
 
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All these religious people will be biased against incels. In the military and religious communities brotherhood only exists for normies while the incels are just the punching bag. There is no brotherhood in real life except the brotherhood among incels. trying to find brotherhood among normies is suicide. But at the same time if you're able to get a cute girl maybe someone very poor then you'd ascend and become a little more accepted by the normies just because you have a girl.
Then again you'll never really be a normie they will still bias against you for ugliness but just a step improvement from no girl.
 
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There is no brotherhood in real life except the brotherhood among incels. trying to find brotherhood among normies is suicide.
Might be true but most of the forum is normie.
 
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All I'm saying is that the Hindus are going to gang up against incel and treat them like shit
If he stands out yeah. But I doubt anyone is going to careless. Normies don’t give af anywhere typically. He might get heckled if he looks too foreign maybe.
Though even if he goes there, going there expecting a girl is dumb. If OP is looking for a golddigger country he should look elsewhere.
 
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Isn´t a crime to leave islam ? If people find it out may they try to kill you ?
 
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They sprinkle it and drink it
In Holy rituals performed by Brahmin priests in Brahman castes this doesn't happen. And I promise you that I have seen and even been apart of far more than you have in my 40 years.
 
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No, I have never seen any North Indian doing such filthy stuff. Drinking and eating cow waste is only gangetic and South Indian thing.
Its not man. Its a country-wide lower and middle caste Hindu ritual. But like I said, much less common today especially in upper castes.
 
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Yeah except the ashvamedha ritual has been carried out for hundreds of years by kings and it’s the one that involves animal sacrifice and dead horse beastiality.
Dude this is either high-level autist crap or you can't read. I said, "IN TODAY'S TIMES". Ashvamedha he says."Kings" he says LMAO. Where the fuck do you see Kings today? You original post that goes this started was you declaring they are all doing it right now. To which I replied: that many low caste are, the rest are not !
Unless you’re saying that kings are low caste then idk what to tell you.
I'm saying there ARE NO Kings you dense AllahuAkbar !
What about the texts that mention how brahma married and raped his own daughter, brahma Vishnu and shiva gangraped anusuya a Hindu sages wife, Sages turned themselves into deers and engaged in beastiality.
Oh my fucking god. These are GOD MYTHS- you know?..like the Greeks, and Romans? You ignoramus !
Hinduism is full of filthy degenerate rituals.
It definitely has some. I never disagrees with that. As a Westerner who is not religious, I rejected Hinduism when I was maybe 12? Shortly before being forced to do a thread-ceremony. I am not religious but you could call me a post-Christian. Protestant Christianity WAS the only semi-decent and worthwhile religion in my opinion.
No wonder curries rape so much, they look up to their (false) gods
Lol. People rape because they want to feel power like animals do. Of course religion plays a role but, its true all over the world.
 
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cope harder, you don't get more brahaminical than the manusmriti:.
You are a high-level autist who has no real world experience !

you even get punished for stealing cow dung jfl.
You are a high-level autist who has no real world experience

also some stuff from the vedas on horse sex
You are a high-level autist who has no real world experience
 
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None of those things are found in islamic scripture. People who do these things will be answerable to God. All the things I mentioned about Hinduism however are found in their so called 'holy' scriptures
The problem is, that Muslims (most Muslims in both the Middle East and ESPECIALLY India) are unable to do anything their Islamic religion tells them to. Their women, underneath the vail are behaving almost as badly as Western sluts and pretend Hindu upper caste whores.
 
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cope harder, you don't get more brahaminical than the manusmriti:








you even get punished for stealing cow dung jfl


also some stuff from the vedas on horse sex
damn didn't know some of the weird rituals came from those respected books. I thought they were just some local cultural inventions of a few select curries. Indeed glad I Buddha maxxed .
 
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@Broly The muzzie is trying to steal your women:horror::horror::horror:
 
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India is not incel friendly. They are absurdly blue pilled and treat black pilled incels like shit.
No, but if you want to mostly LDAR then its the best. Of course, you have to have worked for a number of years prior to that, but I did just that. I'm a child of the 80's teenager of the 90's.
All these religious people will be biased against incels. In the military and religious communities brotherhood only exists for normies while the incels are just the punching bag. There is no brotherhood in real life except the brotherhood among incels. trying to find brotherhood among normies is suicide.
This is correct and people should stop trying to pretend otherwise BUT... we might have some hope if people are willing to follow a new method and model for behavior and are interested in purely intellectual conversation with serious conviction.
But at the same time if you're able to get a cute girl maybe someone very poor then you'd ascend and become a little more accepted by the normies just because you have a girl.
Nope. Not true. It goes back to being even worse, thats when the trouble will start. A lot of Incels really have a major dysfunction realizing this. They have a blind spot and are not able to understand that securing a gf doesn't mean you "through it", it means you will suffer even more and more and more.
Then again you'll never really be a normie they will still bias against you for ugliness but just a step improvement from no girl.
Yes exactly!
No, I have never seen any North Indian doing such filthy stuff. Drinking and eating cow waste is only gangetic and South Indian thing.
wtf is with this "gangetic" shit? kek. Yeah Ganges River is in the North East
 
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You are a high-level autist who has no real world experience !

You are a high-level autist who has no real world experience

You are a high-level autist who has no real world experience

Real world experience? What does that have to do with cow urine being an agent of purification in Brahminical Hinduism?
 
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wtf is with this "gangetic" shit? kek. Yeah Ganges River is in the North East

Some division curries online (especially pakistanis) made to try and separate themselves from people who come from the BIMARU states.
 
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None of those things are found in islamic scripture. People who do these things will be answerable to God. All the things I mentioned about Hinduism however are found in their so called 'holy' scriptures
I'm not sure that I agree that they are all in canonical Sanskrit texts in quite the way you mean -- and I don't want to get into it with you -- the same cherrypicking can be done with what is in the Koran too -- I am not sure that what is written down matters, as to my point.

All I meant to say, in probably a way more crass than necessary, was that all religions have some jacked up elements that are easy to cherry pick and fixate on.

Does any of that stuff in Islam distract me from my attraction to the incredible spiritual wisdom of Idries Shah or Hazrat Inayat Khan, or so many others? Not in the slightest. They are a universe apart from the degenerates in my silly list.

So too in Hinduism, Christianity, and all other serious religions.

And you're right. We are all answerable to God. Judge not. :)
 
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Pretty sure u won’t get shit if u throw stones at Muslims or mosques unless u get anti Islam wife who hates muslims
 
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Religionmaxxing is an interesting cope :feelsjuice:
 
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I'm not sure that I agree that they are all in canonical Sanskrit texts in quite the way you mean -- and I don't want to get into it with you
Devi Bhagwatam Book 5 Ch 2 ]
[31] O highly fortunate Rambha! With any female of whichever species, you will co-habit, you will get a son, more powerful than you; there is no doubt in this.
[32-] Vyâsa said :-- O king! Hearing thus the sweet words of the Fire as desired, Rambha, the chief of the Dânavas, went, surrounded by Yaksas, to a beautiful place, adorned with picturesque sceneries; when one lovely she-buffalo, who was very maddened with passion, fell to the sight of Rambha. And he desired to have sexual intercourse with her, in preference to other women. The she-buffallo, too, gladly yielded to his purpose and Rambha had sexual intercourse with her, impelled as it were by the destiny. The she-buffalo became pregnant with his semen virile.

Vishnu Purana Book 3 Sec 18 Sh 64-67]
With the eye of divine intelligence she knew that her own husband had been regenerate as a dog, and going once to the city of Vaidiśá she saw the dog, and recognised her former lord in him. Knowing that the animal was her husband, she placed upon his neck the bridal garland, accompanying it with the marriage rites and prayers…

Brahma Purana (Gautami Mahatmya) Ch 58 ]
[16-24] At the instance of Devas the Fire-god assumed the form of a parrot and went to the place where the lord of the worlds was sporting with Umā. Then the Fire-god went ahead timidly in the form of a parrot. The carrier of the Havyas (Fire-god) could not go through the doorway. Then he went to the window sill and remained there with face turned down and trembling. On seeing him Śambhu in that secret place laughingly said to Umā. See, O gentle lady, the parrot that is the Fire-god himself who has come here at the instance of Devas. Pārvatī bashfully said to the lord, “O lord, enough”. The lord of Devas called the Fire-god moving about in front of him. in the form of a bird and said, “O Agni, you have been recognised through various ways. Do not speak anything. Open your mouth. Take this in and carry it with you.” After saying this lord Śambhu discharged a great deal of semen into the mouth of Fire-god

Mahabharat book 1 Ch 118 sh ~25–38 / ~Pg 246 ]
O king [Pandu], a Muni who liveth on fruits and roots, though disguised as a deer…I was engaged in sexual intercourse with this deer, because my feelings of modesty did not permit me to indulge in such an act in human society.
the same cherrypicking can be done with what is in the Koran too
No it cannot
all religions have some jacked up elements that are easy to cherry pick and fixate on.
Some are clearly better than others. Child sacrifice and banning of music are both jacked up but one is clearly worse
I am not sure that what is written down matters, as to my point
What is written down is what matters the most. If you don't follow the beliefs of your religion then you aren't really a follower. You cannot judge a religion by the actions of it's followers but by judging it's scriptures
 
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Real world experience? What does that have to do with cow urine being an agent of purification in Brahminical Hinduism?
Wait.. Are you kidding me? I bet any whitecel here over the age of 30 can answer this question.. Are you seriously asking me about what real world experience has to do with knowing the difference between practice and orthodoxy, manuels and whats written in text? Lol. Yeah you are 19 and a Paycheck-Virgin !
Some division curries online (especially pakistanis) made to try and separate themselves from people who come from the BIMARU states.
Yes. Good. So you are able to see how @Misogynist Curry 卐 is a coping guru and wrong, but not able to understand that about yourself when touting spineless worms like Richard Dawkins, Anthony Faucci or pro-Covid-vacvine fags? Or Democrats in the U.S.? This is top kek.
 
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Wait.. Are you kidding me? I bet any whitecel here over the age of 30 can answer this question.. Are you seriously asking me about what real world experience has to do with knowing the difference between practice and orthodoxy, manuels and whats written in text? Lol. Yeah you are 19 and a Paycheck-Virgin !
You never actually specified that you were only talking about Hinduism in practice and not just Hinduism in theory. You just said it was not Brahminical Hinduism which is demonstrably false. I don't know how frequently its practiced but that's a question that's going to be answered by a country-wide survey and not a single man's anecdotes.

Yes. Good. So you are able to see how @Misogynist Curry 卐 is a coping guru and wrong, but not able to understand that about yourself when touting spineless worms like Richard Dawkins, Anthony Faucci or pro-Covid-vacvine fags? Or Democrats in the U.S.? This is top kek.
They aren't wrong :feelsdevil:
 
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Also both the Manusmriti and Vedas are still highly relevant to caste Hindus today and that’s just objectively true
 
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Devi Bhagwatam Book 5 Ch 2 ]
[31] O highly fortunate Rambha! With any female of whichever species, you will co-habit, you will get a son, more powerful than you; there is no doubt in this.
[32-] Vyâsa said :-- O king! Hearing thus the.
Again, orthodoxy and orthopraxy. Its not practiced.

But you are missing my more significant point, which is that Hinduism is a weak and fuzzy collection of garbage. You can always find a few gem stones in the trash but, not many. It has its strong points and a lot of weak points.

Islam, however for all its strong points has actualized itself into another religion about "Pride" !
No it cannot.
Oh yes it can. Not as easily, but trust me, it can be done. The Quran is overall, written much better than the ratchet conglomeration of texts Hindus have thrown together, but it still leads to Pride-Overload.
Pretty sure u won’t get shit if u throw stones at Muslims or mosques unless u get anti Islam wife who hates muslims
All of the low IQ posters need to wither ask questions or fuck off. OP is too dense and mental health'd up to even reply to his own moronic question in his OP.
 
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@Indracel stop running from the Hammering you are taking on Discord PM and trying to win ground here. God chatting with you is like Schizo helter skelter shit.
 
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Some are clearly better than others. Child sacrifice and banning of music are both jacked up but one is clearly worse.

Actually banning of music was a good initial idea.
 
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But you are missing my more significant point, which is that Hinduism is a weak and fuzzy collection of garbage. You can always find a few gem stones in the trash but, not many. It has its strong points and a lot of weak points.
That’s literally what I’m saying
Oh yes it can. Not as easily, but trust me, it can be done. The Quran is overall, written much better than the ratchet conglomeration of texts Hindus have thrown together, but it still leads to Pride-Overload.
Do it then
 
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You never actually specified that you were only talking about Hinduism in practice and not just Hinduism in theory. You just said it was not Brahminical Hinduism which is demonstrably false. I don't know how frequently its practiced but that's a question that's going to be answered by a country-wide survey and not a single man's anecdotes.
Yes I did, I said it to OP. Btw my "anecdotes" are far superior to the lack of information you hace gathered in the last 19 years. What? You are the only who believes he "researches people" and understands concepts? This is at the heart of whats wrong with you..I'll demonstrate further below.
They aren't wrong :feelsdevil:
Let me hear you say it, because even non-intellectual low iqs on this sitw know it.... Are you ACTUALLY telling me that people like Dawkins, (for Science) Faucci (for medicine) and Pro-Vaccine Covid cucks are the Saints & Gurus from which your superior non-anecdotal knowledge hails? LOL.

Seriously man, this is becoming comical. I am citing 2500 years history and Science as my sources for guys an you are citing to... an Italian American whop-faggot who was a dead end beurocrat and researcher who produced absolutely no good works? Anthony FUCKING Faucci?
 
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That’s literally what I’m saying.
But you're not able yo formulate it as well as I did. The issue is, you are too agressive about it Hinduism is a failure. But so is Islam when compared to Protestant Christianity. Do you agree?
Do it then
I'm not a Quran specialist. I'm a generalist and, I believe my theory about Islam's Muslims as mostly problematic is correct. Same with my comparison regarding Islam vs Christianity.
 
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Yes I did, I said it to OP. Btw my "anecdotes" are far superior to the lack of information you hace gathered in the last 19 years. What? You are the only who believes he "researches people" and understands concepts? This is at the heart of whats wrong with you..I'll demonstrate further below.

Let me hear you say it, because even non-intellectual low iqs on this sitw know it.... Are you ACTUALLY telling me that people like Dawkins, (for Science) Faucci (for medicine) and Pro-Vaccine Covid cucks are the Saints & Gurus from which your superior non-anecdotal knowledge hails? LOL.

Seriously man, this is becoming comical. I am citing 2500 years history and Science as my sources for guys an you are citing to... an Italian American whop-faggot who was a dead end beurocrat and researcher who produced absolutely no good works? Anthony FUCKING Faucci?

Just curious.. in our convo you suggested that no one in America is Christian despite containing the largest number of self identified Christians in the word, and you said that Jordan Peterson is actually on track to become an atheist. So if we can look at neither the holy texts themselves nor what the self-identified followers are practicing to define what a religion is in practice, what, if anything, do you use to define “Christianity”, “Hinduism” etc?
 
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But so is Islam when compared to Protestant Christianity. Do you agree
Christianity in general is full of contradictions and the truth cannot be contradictory
I'm not a Quran specialist. I'm a generalist and, I believe my theory about Islam's Muslims as mostly problematic is correct. Same with my comparison regarding Islam vs Christianity
So you talk about Islam like you possess authority on the subject despite not having studied it in depth
 
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Christianity in general is full of contradictions and the truth cannot be contradictory

So you talk about Islam like you possess authority on the subject despite not having studied it in depth

now you’re coping mang

Christianity mogs Islam front and back
 
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Just curious.. in our convo you suggested that no one in America is Christian despite containing the largest number of self identified Christians in the word, and you said that Jordan Peterson is actually on track to become an atheist. So if we can look at neither the holy texts themselves nor what the self-identified followers are practicing to define what a religion is in practice, what, if anything, do you use to define “Christianity”, “Hinduism” etc?
Fair question. But....

You are conflating a few things. It takes time and repeated conversation to meade out misunderstanding.

So, first lets make sure you understand that with OP's thread, we are talking about Religion as a "timeless" type of thing, in discussion.

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Regarding America & Christianity, yes, the majority of people who say they believe in Christianity and God are not actually practicing the form of Christianity that the New England Protestants in fact practiced. They are actually practicing a form of Chad/Stacy worship. People worship. Greek God type of worship. Pantheon of gods type of worship. They have superimposed various mediators (gods in the form of people) overtop of what used to be worship of just God. So yes, Jordan Peterson is a good example of this mix. He is a Neitzche worshipper while claiming to also be a Christian. And of course, as you know F.W. Neitzche is God's and Christianity's biggest critique. These two things are irreconcilable and if you try and force them together it makes people CRAZY. This is superhero worship. James Bond Hero worship. And Christianity is ANTI-HERO. It makes people eventually go nuts.

For further clarification one would need to speak vc It's too much room for misunderstanding to try and type it all, and I have other things to be doing also.
 
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Devi Bhagwatam Book 5 Ch 2 ] . . .

I think you missed the point, and it is clear you have no idea what you are talking about. I know you haven't read these books or even the entire chapters, in Sanskrit. Relevant words, e.g., prajanam, cognate with the word "progeny," can more properly and commonly be translated as "the people" -- not "organ of generation," i.e., the sex organ, as was often mistranslated by 19th-century Orientalists. The list of such examples is very long and extends to nearly every line of the relevant passages.

There are also these things called metaphors.

To illustrate in Islam: There isn't some magical place with rivers of alcohol and 72 virgins. Janna is more than just some place with those things. Janna is a notional place or state of existence. So is Qaf, and so much more in Islamic literature.

There are different genres of literature: Poetry, encyclopedia, philosophy, narrative, history, etc.

Flatly reading something literally, repeating it over and over again, with the same canned emotional take each time -- no reading carefully, listening to others, or thinking -- these things start to resemble the diagnostic criteria for autism.

What is written down is what matters the most. If you don't follow the beliefs of your religion then you aren't really a follower. You cannot judge a religion by the actions of it's followers but by judging it's scriptures
Maybe the following words are what move you:

Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …" I could go on. Plenty of others do go on.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCHHfBeu0QE
Who cares man. Polemics are so easy and dumb. That was my point. And in response I get more polemics.

Words may matter to you more than actions.

I think the Abrahamists of all three stripes would strongly agree that this notion, that words matter more than actions, is a pernicious one, positively Satanic.
 
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@Indracel @JayGoptri @wereq advice for OP?

the sad truth. regardless of what religion you choose, you can't get laid unless rich or good looking. I think your best option is to Afghanistan Maxx and learn farsi. Pakistan itself has many Pathans who would marry their daughters off for the dutch green card equivalent alone. I knew a gyro cart guy who had a daughter in Pakistan and then ditched his wife behind there. He was only 4/10 5'8 stats wise and fucking gyro seller yet still got a decent foid just due to USA halo. Dutch cels like you can do same
This shit convinces me that escorts and prostitutes are the divine saviors of incels. It is unforgivable that America consistently restricts womanly freedoms, this prohibition against sexual labor is a farce construed out of devotion to some silly dogma.
 
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Fair question. But....

You are conflating a few things. It takes time and repeated conversation to meade out misunderstanding.

So, first lets make sure you understand that with OP's thread, we are talking about Religion as a "timeless" type of thing, in discussion.

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Regarding America & Christianity, yes, the majority of people who say they believe in Christianity and God are not actually practicing the form of Christianity that the New England Protestants in fact practiced. They are actually practicing a form of Chad/Stacy worship. People worship. Greek God type of worship. Pantheon of gods type of worship. They have superimposed various mediators (gods in the form of people) overtop of what used to be worship of just God. So yes, Jordan Peterson is a good example of this mix. He is a Neitzche worshipper while claiming to also be a Christian. And of course, as you know F.W. Neitzche is God's and Christianity's biggest critique. These two things are irreconcilable and if you try and force them together it makes people CRAZY. This is superhero worship. James Bond Hero worship. And Christianity is ANTI-HERO. It makes people eventually go nuts.

For further clarification one would need to speak vc It's too much room for misunderstanding to try and type it all, and I have other things to be doing also.
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To compare. There isn't some magical place with rivers of alcohol and 72 virgins. Janna is more than just some place with those things. Janna is a notional place or state of existence. So is Qaf, and so much more in Islamic literature.

There are different genres of literature: Poetry, encyclopedia, philosophy, narrative, history, etc.

Flatly reading something literally, repeating it over and over again, with the same canned emotional take each time -- no reading carefully, listening to others, or thinking -- these things start to resemble the diagnostic criteria for autism.


Maybe the following words are what move you:

Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …" I could go on. Plenty of others do go on.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCHHfBeu0QE
Who cares man. Polemics are so easy and dumb. That was my point. And in response I get more polemics.

Words may matter to you more than actions.

I think the Abrahamists of all three stripes would strongly agree that this notion, that words matter more than actions, is a pernicious one, positively Satanic.


Surah 9:5 or the "sword verse" is the part of the Qur'an that's taken the most out of context. Just look at the surrounding verses to see what the passage actually means:

And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.
How can there be for the polytheists a treaty in the sight of Allah and with His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at al-Masjid al-Haram? So as long as they are upright toward you, be upright toward them. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].
 
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Surah 9:5 or the "sword verse" is the part of the Qur'an that's taken the most out of context. Just look at the surrounding verses to see what the passage actually means:
Agreed. I was just trying to illustrate how silly it is to do that with any religion's texts. Ricordanza did it with the Bhagavatam etc. We could do the same bullshit with the Bible: "burn the witches" etc.

My point is not to attack the Koran, at all. It is to point out how dumb cherrypicking polemics are -- how foid-level superficial such reading and writing is at the end of the day.
 
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Surah 9:5 or the "sword verse" is the part of the Qur'an that's taken the most out of context. Just look at the surrounding verses to see what the passage actually means:
And there are even more verses than the ones you quoted that really clarify the message of peace -- that one should not let Allah get in the way of making peace among men, etc.

I omitted going through all that in my post as I'm sure you did yours, because whole books can be written on these subjects.

Anyway, I was pleased to read these other verses you quoted. Thank you!
 
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Just curious.. in our convo you suggested that no one in America is Christian despite containing the largest number of self identified Christians in the word, and you said that Jordan Peterson is actually on track to become an atheist. So if we can look at neither the holy texts themselves nor what the self-identified followers are practicing to define what a religion is in practice, what, if anything, do you use to define “Christianity”, “Hinduism” etc?
One other thing re: Richard Dawkins types:

You need to understand much more about this guy and his type. The problem with Dawkins is similar to the problem with Peterson. They are fanning people's sense of Pride and Vanity. In Protestant Christianity (and even Catholicism I believe) these were BAD actions associated with bad behaviours and Sin. The by-product of people like Dawkins is that every confuses SCIENTIST with Scientific Talk show hosts. Every child says "I want to be a Scientist" not because they are actually invested in being a researcher in a small lab, but because they want to be Talk-Show faggot like Dawkins. A YouTube sensation and a "Science presenter etc etc. This has led to less than 5% science innovation and 95% bullshit talk-show host behaviors. Its unsustainable.
 
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I think you missed the point, and it is clear you have no idea what you are talking about. I know you haven't read these books or even the entire chapters, in Sanskrit. Relevant words, e.g., prajanam, cognate with the word "progeny," can more properly and commonly be translated as "the people" -- not "organ of generation," i.e., the sex organ, as was often mistranslated by 19th-century Orientalists. The list of such examples is very long and extends to nearly every line of the relevant passages.
I can understand and fluently speak 3 Indian languages. I know more about Hinduism than you do. If you think this is cherry-picking then why don’t you quote counter examples from scholars of hinduism along with their sources?

Also islam is not not open to interpretation from lay muslims, you are supposed to accept the way it is interpretated by the ulama which itself is based upon the explanation and sunnah of the prophet and the sahaba
Agreed. I was just trying to illustrate how silly it is to do that with any religion's texts. Ricordanza did it with the Bhagavatam etc. We could do the same bullshit with the Bible: "burn the witches" etc.

My point is not to attack the Koran, at all. It is to point out how dumb cherrypicking polemics are -- how foid-level superficial such reading and writing is at the end of the day.
If you think it is indeed cherry-picking then prove me wrong. The mere fact that several contradictory statements about the same topic exist in hinduism prove that it is a false religion
Words may matter to you more than actions.

I think the Abrahamists of all three stripes would strongly agree that this notion, that words matter more than actions, is a pernicious one, positively Satanic.
Strawman. I said scripture matters more than actions of the believers which every single scholar of abrahamism would agree with me on
 
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I can understand and fluently speak 3 Indian languages. I know more about Hinduism than you do. If you think this is cherry-picking then why don’t you quote counter examples from scholars of hinduism along with their sources?
I have graduate degrees in the relevant languages, and have contributed to peer-reviewed published academic work on the subject.

I explained a few examples and the relevant principles. The responses showed that what I tried to keep brief was itself not even being read.

You can go to a decent university library and find journals and books for more. There is more in there than on the Internet. You'll find my work there.

And no I won't dox myself.

It's all good man. Fight on.
 
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Agreed. I was just trying to illustrate how silly it is to do that with any religion's texts. Ricordanza did it with the Bhagavatam etc. We could do the same bullshit with the Bible: "burn the witches" etc.

My point is not to attack the Koran, at all. It is to point out how dumb cherrypicking polemics are -- how foid-level superficial such reading and writing is at the end of the day.
Agreed. Also, his main point confuses doctrine and practice. Hindu doctrine comes in a lot of confused little spurts. Its almost impossible to reconcile it with what is practically done by Brahmins. For that you nees to look at the rituals of smaller sects of Brahmins and how they operate. There are Madhwa Brahmins and Smarta Brahmins and so many other in the Varna caste system. Very few if any drink cow urine or roll in dung. @Ricordanza is trying to simo his way into making a bigger point about his cherished Islam. Again, I have no quarrel with his preoccupation with the Quran, but his desire to claim superiority over Hinduism requires more back and forth. Much of what he said was just general blanket statement crap.
 
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Agreed. Also, his main point confuses doctrine and practice. Hindu doctrine comes in a lot of confused little spurts. Its almost impossible to reconcile it with what is practically done by Brahmins. For that you nees to look at the rituals of smaller sects of Brahmins and how they operate. There are Madhwa Brahmins and Smarta Brahmins and so many other in the Varna caste system. Very few if any drink cow urine or roll in dung. @Ricordanza is trying to simo his way into making a bigger point about his cherished Islam. Again, I have no quarrel with his preoccupation with the Quran, but his desire to claim superiority over Hinduism requires more back and forth. Much of what he said was just general blanket statement crap.
Indeed even the notion of "doctrine" is almost trying to square a circle.

I respectfully submit that "confused little spurts" is a pretty good description of just about every religion's foundational texts, especially vis-a-vis the practices, traditions, lunatic fringes, etc.--and especially in view of the Infinite.

The texts of Hinduism aren't bound up in one neat little book. There are a lot of them, over millennia upon millennia. Just about every intellectual revolution conceivable has happened ten times over throughout the history of these texts. Hindus have a very high tolerance for complexity.

As for the Abrahamists, however, having a neat little book doesn't mean that that book's contents are neat or little. The Bible and Koran have their own vastness, enigmas, complexities, difficulties...

For my part I wouldn't have it any other way. Solutions that are too clean and easy just smell like someone trying to sell something. Life is weird and hard, and it often requires nothing less than this extraordinary stuff of ancient wisdom to face.
 
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I can understand and fluently speak 3 Indian languages. I know more about Hinduism than you do. If you think this is cherry-picking then why don’t you quote counter examples from scholars of hinduism along with their sources?
You are cherry picking a litte bit and glossing over more practical points. Btw what 3 "Indian"languages do you speak?
If you think it is indeed cherry-picking then prove me wrong. The mere fact that several contradictory statements about the same topic exist in hinduism prove that it is a false religion.
I already granted you this. Its a loose fuzzy set of ism's thrown together. If Islam is superior to Hinduism (Islam, not Muslims superior to Hindus) then what about Christianity being superior to Islam? Do you agree?
Also islam is not not open to interpretation from lay muslims, you are supposed to accept the way it is interpretated by the ulama which itself is based upon the explanation and sunnah of the prophet and the sahaba.
Same for A LOT of Hinduism buddy. Why do you forget to mention this? Brahmin scholars and Sanskrit scholars do the interpretations.

Strawman. I said scripture matters more than actions of the believers which every single scholar of abrahamism would agree with me on
Yes but, scriptures gets reinterpreted with the newer times. The practices and rituals matter also. Hinduism is stuck in the past, which is why India is also stuck, which is ALSO what makes it better for LDAR'ing Incels.
 
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Indeed even the notion of "doctrine" is almost trying to square a circle.

I respectfully submit that "confused little spurts" is a pretty good description of just about every religion's foundational texts, especially vis-a-vis the practices, traditions, lunatic fringes, etc.

The texts of Hinduism aren't bound up in one neat little book. There are a lot of them, over millennia upon millennia. Just about every intellectual revolution conceivable has happened ten times over throughout the history of these texts.

But having a neat little book doesn't mean its contents are neat or little. The Bible and Koran have their own vastness, enigmas, and complexities.
Mostly true. Though, I think if taken with suppliment texts outside of direct religions texts, certain things become a clearer study.

Like Rene Girard's work in "Deceit Desire and the Novel" along with the New Testament and other works written by early and middle ages Christians, and then soke things examined by more recent Philosophy like that of Ludwig Wittgenstein. But I'll have to leave that here, because it gets too heavy to explain. It would take a lot of reading and a lot of years.
 

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