Serious Has orbiting ever worked?

[Fontaine]

There is a logical inconsistency:

- Orbiting a girl never works

- Orbiting is the default instinctive male behavior

If orbiting was a surefire way of reproductive failure, you'd expect Evolution to have wiped out our tendency for orbiting by now

 

[Deleted member 60]

orbiting is not the norm in other cultures and past generations

 

[CopingGymcel]

It has worked for some, but it leads to cucked relationships where the femoid isn't really all that attracted to her boyfriend.

You shouldn't be orbiting femoids, they should be orbiting you.

 

[PleaseKillMeLoseSkin]

Orbiting is done by brainwashed men that think that the girl will one day realize that her true lover has been in front of her the whole time, meanwhile she's been riding so much dick it's not even funny.

 

[Bagelcel]

Yeah orbiting works sometimes, but it essentially requires you to completely sell out your manhood and be cucked fully.
-You have to be her emotion crutch after she gets pumped and dumped by multiple tyrones and chads
-Then you get with her whens she's in an unstable emotional state

inevitably after you get with her after a few months she regains her regular mental state and then breaks your heart and goes for more chads/tyrones
Rinse
And
Repeat

Even then orbiting isnt guaranteed to get you the girl

 

[Hunter]

the chads that orbited in history had the foids. now chads are intelligent enough to realise their SMV and make foids do the orbiting.

 

[Fontaine]

orbiting is not the norm in other cultures and past generations

Orbiting is default behavior for 90% of males

And it's not taught but inborn

 

[acnescarcel]

idk if its worked but I've seen a lot of guys do it.

 

[Cali_Incel]

Probably a small amount that ended up being betabuxx most of the time.

 

[Spite]

To get laid as a sub 7 these days you have to orbit to some extent

 

[Fontaine]

To get laid as a sub 7 these days you have to orbit to some extent

Yet all redpillers and PUAs are formal: the more you orbit the less chances you have, and I think they're completely right.

 

[Weirdcel]

Historically, most men were like sterile worker ants. They're just there to provide resources to the the queens (fertile females) and the drones (Chads) so to speak.

Orbiters = worker ant mentality

Incels are the ones who don't work or orbit.

 

[Deleted member 1252]

orbiting is not the norm in other cultures and past generations

 

[nymph]

it only works if your the most "alpha" of the orbiter(s). as they female their are orbiting will pick the best one.

REMEMBER: as more desperate men get the more picky women get

 

[_incelinside]

You shouldn't be orbiting femoids, they should be orbiting you.

this should be stickied somewhere

 

[Itsoverboyos]

I see what you're saying OP and of course it could be argued that if orbiting doesn't work at all it should have died out as a reproductive strategy long ago. I actually think that orbiting did work - notice how I used the past tense and not does? It is obvious that the dating and sexual market has greatly changed in the last century. Females being allowed into the work force and the sexual liberation were the two most devastating changes. They completely changed everything relationship-wise.

Back then orbiting a female could help to show her that you are a good provider and caretaker, all meant to appeal to her long-term dating strategy. The majority of men did/do this, because females are only really physically attracted to a small percentage of men. I don't think very goodlooking males (8/10 or above) ever orbited femoids even historically. Most of them soon knew that they were desirable enough and therefore often engaged in short-term dating.

Nowadays orbiting is nearly completely futile because women are able to earn their own money and are far less dependant on men. They also have unlimited options due to hypergamy and online dating. Therefore more and more men are simply excluded from the sexual market. The problem is that orbiting has moderately worked for humans for nearly 10 000 years, evolution only gradually changes, so one century would not be enough to adapt to the new modern dating market and to abandon orbiting.

 

[Deleted member 60]

Orbiting is default behavior for 90% of males

And it's not taught but inborn

I think you mean chasing, which is different IMO.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

orbiting helps to get a betabux I guess in theory.

 

[Templarcel421]

Yeah orbiting works sometimes, but it essentially requires you to completely sell out your manhood and be cucked fully.
-You have to be her emotion crutch after she gets pumped and dumped by multiple tyrones and chads
-Then you get with her whens she's in an unstable emotional state

inevitably after you get with her after a few months she regains her regular mental state and then breaks your heart and goes for more chads/tyrones
Rinse
And
Repeat

Even then orbiting isnt guaranteed to get you the girl

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