Blackpill Has anybody ever seen a short and ugly male scoring...

[Fontaine]

... out of sheer confidence and authority?

Women are attracted to confidence and authority, aka charisma (this is a redpill truth). And they can be faked to an extent (it is very hard to fake them if you have untreated clinical depression or legit reasons to be ashamed of yourself, though). However, can they truly overcome looks?

The reason I always had trouble with TRP tenets (even before I learned about the blackpill) is that I tried to imagine an extremely ugly person trying to "act confident", and my mind couldn't see the interaction leading to sexual success. I also haven't seen any really ugly male scoring before my eyes (most I've seen is a short 5/10 pulling a 6.5 with thug game).

However, recently I've talked to a very short man who enjoyed a surprising amount of romantic success (and yes, at least with one pretty and tall girl as far as I understood). He had wives, etc. He was very confident and authoritative (but also showed big insecurity and SMS sometimes, an interesting mix that proves bad looks are always an issue even if you manage to compensate for them). He came from a wealthy family, which must have given him a headstart. This happened in the 1950s and 60s though (the guy was almost 80).

 

[Hunter]

cope. "game" as called by TRPfags is like 5% of foid attraction at best unless were talking full on thugmaxxing. looks override personality, this is the essence of the blackpill.

your example is easily explainable. first off this happened in the mid 20th century so hypergamy was practically non existant and the sexual revolution hadnt even begun back then. then you mention he is rich so he is certainly betabuxxing his wives.

 

[Life Wasted]

Never in my 27 years of life have I ever seen a short ugly man have any sort of romantic success ever. It doesn't happen, nature has a reject pile and men like that go in it. Confidence,like personality, always comes last, looks are first and foremost.

 

[ArtoriasWolf]

Just ask someone from inceltears, apparently all of them have seen trillions of short ugly men getting 11/10 models daily.

 

[Fontaine]

your example is easily explainable. first off this happened in the mid 20th century so hypergamy was practically non existant and the sexual revolution hadnt even begun back then. then you mention he is rich so he is certainly betabuxxing his wives.

Yes, I would have taken him more seriously hadn't he come from a wealthy family. I won't be arrogant enough to presume all of his GFs were betabuxxing him, but I doubt a poor, obscure dwarf could have reached the same success. It's like Tyrion Lannister: a poor obscure dwarf is just pathetic and not very interesting; a wealthy famous dwarf is very pathetic and very interesting, by the contrast between glory and misery, and the obvious unfairness of the ordeal. George R R Martin has very blackpilled lines on this in the ASOIAF books.

 

[ThisLifeKillsMe]

Never in my 27 years of life have I ever seen a short ugly man have any sort of romantic success ever. It doesn't happen, nature has a reject pile and men like that go in it. Confidence,like personality, always comes last, looks are first and foremost.

 

[pooty]

Never seen them scoring, but I know of a foid in my school who got together with a short(5'2) guy. He's not ugly per se, but its no where near masculine and sport a very baby face. The foid however is a real nutcase, shes a SJW feminist with a plethora of mental issues. It was so bad that her parents had to ask her ex (a 6' jock) to take care and condone her. However, he had enough and broke up. I can tell that she just wants the attention and mental counselling this new guy provides for her and I feel like she is in not sexually attracted to him at all. I doubt she even had sex with him yet!

 

[Pinpoint]

Natural behavior is supposed to be a gesture of how someone comes off without external enhacements. Their value ornamenting their bearing.
Anything contrived won't work.
Being cold and aloof is supposed to subcommunicate you get things done without trying hard.
Most men who want to try hard want to have an ambitious handsome prize. So they act cold and aloof.

 

[Fontaine]

Being cold and aloof is supposed to subcommunicate you get things done without trying hard.

More precisely, it's sending signals that you are high value (not in a state of anxiety or insecurity caused by penury or risk of death).

The trouble with fake confidence is that you can only fool people who don't know your true life enough.

 

[Pinpoint]

More precisely, it's sending signals that you are high value (not in a state of anxiety or insecurity caused by penury or risk of death).

The trouble with fake confidence is that you can only fool people who don't know your true life enough.

Which is why I wanted my family to help me cover it up as soon as I was 12. I didn't want anyone knowing I was a white kid who suffered reverse racism and then beat up people.

Didn't work out so I flung myself into some kind of insecure insanity.

But yes being cold and aloof is suppsoed to express your habitual incline to get what you want without having to express and emit yourself. it means you can get by without trying hard. But those to do try hard want the benefit of being someone takaen for someone who didn't try hard.
That's where the laidbacker lifestyle comes into place.

 

[itsmemario]

Yes, i know about 4 people like that.

 

[Moustachcel]

nope

 

[Masterkief9]

I have, in college I’d see guys who were short and ugly ass Mexicans/curries/blacks who spent all their time trying to fuck anything they could get their hands on. Sometimes they were successful but the girls were always landwhales

 

[incel4life]

Things that matter to women:

1) Looks
2) The prestige (as viewed by women) of the culture the man belongs to
3) How well the man is accepted by his culture

(1) is almost entirely dependent on genetics. (3) depends on genetics too, because most cultures will reject and bully its members who are not good looking. The one that is least dependent on genetics is (2), which is why you see men with "low quality" genetics join a prestigious culture like thug culture and get more attractive women than their genetics would otherwise permit. You join thug culture by dressing like a thug, talking like a thug, and getting tattoos.

 

[Lord Byron]

I have never seen it in person.

 

[Termus123]

... out of sheer confidence and authority?

Women are attracted to confidence and authority, aka charisma (this is a redpill truth). And they can be faked to an extent (it is very hard to fake them if you have untreated clinical depression or legit reasons to be ashamed of yourself, though). However, can they truly overcome looks?

The reason I always had trouble with TRP tenets (even before I learned about the blackpill) is that I tried to imagine an extremely ugly person trying to "act confident", and my mind couldn't see the interaction leading to sexual success. I also haven't seen any really ugly male scoring before my eyes (most I've seen is a short 5/10 pulling a 6.5 with thug game).

However, recently I've talked to a very short man who enjoyed a surprising amount of romantic success (and yes, at least with one pretty and tall girl as far as I understood). He had wives, etc. He was very confident and authoritative (but also showed big insecurity and SMS sometimes, an interesting mix that proves bad looks are always an issue even if you manage to compensate for them). He came from a wealthy family, which must have given him a headstart. This happened in the 1950s and 60s though (the guy was almost 80).

My 5’6” fat ugly asian friend has scored SEVERAL 8/10s, the only thing he has is a good personality and dentist occupation

 

[Lord Byron]

I suspect that has more to do with being a dentist than his personality.

 

[Disillusioned]

Women are attracted to confidence and authority, aka charisma (this is a redpill truth).

Then why is it that Trump has basically destroyed the republican party's approval among women to a point that huge numbers of them now outright refuse to even date anybody who supports Trump?

Women don't find alpha men attractive, they actually HATE them. The reason for this is that alpha guys will actually stand up for themselves and thus can't be easily controlled during relationships which women hate, and also because they give women massive penis envy by reminding them of everything they aren't. Why do you think feminists demonize masculinity? Why do you think they want to feminize boys? It's because deep inside they know they are inferior and can't compete with men, so instead they just try to turn men into women so that they will be as pathetic as they are. Pretty much all of feminism is just giant cope and a byproduct of penis envy and insecurity.

Acting alpha towards a woman will not make her respect you more, all it will do is make her angry because she wasn't able to bully you into getting what she wants. The red pill is basically just a different version of the blue pill in regards to how delusional it is.

 

[Mainländer]

Whenever I see the "ugly guy with cute girl" meme IRL I always notice one of those two things or both:

1) the girl is above the guy's looksmatch but the guy himself is not ugly
2) the guy is ugly in general but has huge halos redeeming his ugliness (one very good-looking facial feature, or average face but tall and good-frame).

If you're completely garbage genetically (everything looks bad, especially regarding your face) you're fucked.

 

[Fontaine]

Whenever I see the "ugly guy with cute girl" meme IRL I always notice one of those two things or both:

1) the girl is above the guy's looksmatch but the guy himself is not ugly
2) the guy is ugly in general but has huge halos redeeming his ugliness (one very good-looking facial feature, or average face but tall and good-frame).

If you're completely garbage genetically (everything looks bad, especially regarding your face) you're fucked.

High IQ, I knew a 4/10 with green eyes who had a hot GF

Things that matter to women:

1) Looks
2) The prestige (as viewed by women) of the culture the man belongs to
3) How well the man is accepted by his culture

(1) is almost entirely dependent on genetics. (3) depends on genetics too, because most cultures will reject and bully its members who are not good looking. The one that is least dependent on genetics is (2), which is why you see men with "low quality" genetics join a prestigious culture like thug culture and get more attractive women than their genetics would otherwise permit. You join thug culture by dressing like a thug, talking like a thug, and getting tattoos.

High IQ

 

[FiveFourManlet]

A lot of normie men rarely get laid, short men almost never get laid.

 

[Anger]

My friend was a 4/10 bluepilled cuck who had a 9/10 gf. Later I found out she was cucking him without him notice she even send nudes to strangers and she said she was single

 

[Brahcel]

Then why is it that Trump has basically destroyed the republican party's approval among women to a point that huge numbers of them now outright refuse to even date anybody who supports Trump?

Women don't find alpha men attractive, they actually HATE them. The reason for this is that alpha guys will actually stand up for themselves and thus can't be easily controlled during relationships which women hate, and also because they give women massive penis envy by reminding them of everything they aren't. Why do you think feminists demonize masculinity? Why do you think they want to feminize boys? It's because deep inside they know they are inferior and can't compete with men, so instead they just try to turn men into women so that they will be as pathetic as they are. Pretty much all of feminism is just giant cope and a byproduct of penis envy and insecurity.

Acting alpha towards a woman will not make her respect you more, all it will do is make her angry because she wasn't able to bully you into getting what she wants. The red pill is basically just a different version of the blue pill in regards to how delusional it is.

Interesting perspective but i still think foids biologically fall for the dominant alpha male that they chase
I had a manlet kinda deformed friend that would approch all. He would get numbers and had a wife before. He rarely if ever got dates. But his approches surprised me

 

[Dregster]

Whenever I see the "ugly guy with cute girl" meme IRL I always notice one of those two things or both:

1) the girl is above the guy's looksmatch but the guy himself is not ugly
2) the guy is ugly in general but has huge halos redeeming his ugliness (one very good-looking facial feature, or average face but tall and good-frame).

If you're completely garbage genetically (everything looks bad, especially regarding your face) you're fucked.

 

[randomloli]

Yes, they have all been rich/high social status.

 

[Hoffman_13]

Just ask someone from inceltears, apparently all of them have seen trillions of short ugly men getting 11/10 models daily.