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Blackpill [Hard to Swallow Edition] Enforced monogamy would need a lower standard of living and restrictions on technology to work; women would still resent you

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Many people here are in favor of enforced monogamy as a solution to inceldom. But in the process they dismiss possible means of not having to rely on women or convince them of things. @Mainländer is one of them.


But as pointed out by many here, enforced monogamy cannot be "enforced" if social media and online dating apps exist because when those platforms starting gaining use is when the last hopes of many normies having long lasting relationships began to fray and it became easier for women to cheat and leave relationships if they chose.

Such people then say dolls, robots and artificial wombs are a cope. But how is expecting society to revert back technologically any less of a cope? How is expecting women to again be bound to men they are not attracted to and them not to object in any way not cope? Undoubtedly there will be pushback to revert aspects of society not just from women but from many men that like the current level of technology and the quality of copes it affords them. They would also argue that even in a time of enforced monogamy, still not every man would be able to get into a relationship.

Again how do you allow for socially enforced monogamy while social media and online dating exists? You can't. It's just LARPing because with that kind of technology women can still easily choose to leave men if they choose because such platforms give them so many dating options. Also how far back do you want to go before your dream of socially enforced monogamy is feasible? Some will argue cellphones and easy public transportation also increase women's options. People here like @Emba have argued that mass media (television, movies, pop culture) showing other people's lifestyles is one of the things that made it difficult to socially enforce monogamy because it is with that technology that women came to believe they could do better if they wanted and that they had alternatives. If you truly want socially enforced monogamy you have to institute a society wide return back to those times. That means a complete ban on social media and online dating and very heavy restrictions if not outright bans on mass media, pop culture, and common modern technology that can be used for communication and spread of ideas like computers and the internet.

Also the argument @Mainländer makes about how the only solution is to put women back in their place ignores how that is how feminism arose in the first place. Women didn't want to romantically, financially or socially associate with men they were not attracted to and wanted the option of having more opportunities to exercise free sexual choice. When that opportunity came they took it, with little help needed from "elites" to convince them. And with the successive waves of feminism that followed it was obvious that this desire to lash out at men came from anger at not having enough sexual choice in the past. Now some people want to put the genie back in the bottle and act like women will agree if it is the standard. But that ignores how unless women willfully choose to obey and submit to a man (which they won't unless they are physically attracted to him), there will be generational resentment that builds and fuels revenge on all men in future waves of feminism. Traditionalism and feminism are a vicious cycle and @NoCopeNoHope has talked about this. The definition of insanity is to repeat the same mistakes and expect different results. What makes you think that trying to bring women back into some role is not going to engender resentment, violence and anger or that this hasn't been tried in the past?

Even before when women had fewer choices but to be legally bound to men there were poisonings, disappearances and murder of the husbands. The husbands that were not murdered were still not treated that well or shown much consideration or love. This is apparent even today in dead bedroom arranged marriages which many South Asian and Middle Eastern males have seen @tehgymcel420 @Subhuman Currycel @Subhuman100 .

Beside that it's probably not the first time men tried to enforce monogamy and get women to go along. It came with a lot of compromises the least of which required men to be providers and protectors no matter what and to fight for women and children more than they are required to today.

Critics of sexbots, sex dolls and alternatives to women aren't completely addressing this.

TL;DR: Socially enforced monogamy would require drastic reductions in life quality, technology and mobility. Even if these measures succeeded without significant opposition to block them, it would not guarantee that women now having less options but to be with men they were not attracted to would just accept the situation. Many of the problems of the past would emerge. Eventually the instated traditionalism would give way to successive waves of feminism again dooming another generation of men to suffer through the same things people here suffer through.

Critics of sexbots, sex dolls, artificial wombs and alternatives to women ignore or downplay this. You overestimate the agreeableness of women and think they will just submit if a strong enough force tells them to and all resentment from this on their end can be stifled indefinitely. That's pure :redpill: cope.
I agree with all of this. Imagining that we can turn the clock back is cope.

My personal preference would be to just treat motherhood and sex as services. Want a kid? Pay a foid to do it (surrogate pregnancy). Want sex? Pay a hooker.

Forget about hugs and holding hands. When foids do it, you never know what it really means ...

However, before suggesting solutions, we should try to have a clearer idea about how we got where we are in the first place. I think that this is a credible attempt at doing just that:
 
Enforced monogamy at this day and age especially in the information age of easy accessibility is a paradox.
 
No it would just require men as a united group and seeing women as inferior yes there will be resistance but it will still be better then what we have now also husbands shoul be obligated to there wife's body
Such a system is already falling apart in countries where it has been in place for hundreds of years like India.
And as many people here have said before men uniting is a pipe dream.
 
recent thread reminded me of this horrible post.

legalized rape would work. within marriage
 
This thread is absolutely cucked and defeatist.
 

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