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Had sex with a escort for the first time. JFL this is so not worth it. [Detailed description and comparison to chadfishing]

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Did you lick her pussy or anus? I've always wanted to try that.
 
so you paid her 500$ for an hour?
 
Dude those are a bunch of superstitious idiots who nofap for the sake of nofapping, nofapping is hard for them, because they don't have an actual goal, they treat repressing themselves sexually like its some kind of fucking game with points and shit JFL ("guuiz I'm on day 80"), like its some kind of support group shit, its ridiculous

I've always said one should "nofap with a cause", if you don't have a goal/reason (AN ACTUAL REASON) to keep you motivated you won't be able to do anything (same with nofap)

Not jerking off for the sake of attaining some arbitrary standard of "self control" IS NOT AN ACTUAL REASON, nofapping with the goal in mind of amazing sex, that's a pretty good reason, because you know an enjoyable sexual release awaits you at the end of it

It won't be hard at all, I'll just block off all sex ads and porn sites using this software I downloading, binge watch tv series and movies, piece of cake, and as long as I have fast food, it really won't feel like forcing at all, its like the easiest quick fix dopamine source anyone can find, makes you feel at ease
I try to do nofap because I'm addicted to pornography. If I watch p willingly, I have to fap. Until very recently I'd also just break any streak of I saw nudity, no matter how mild it may have been. I haven't been able to go more than 21 days without watching p. I don't think I'll ever be able to do nofap successfully. :feelsrope:
 
I try to do nofap because I'm addicted to pornography

If porn costs you nothing, and there are no side effects (there are none its all placebo "muh energy and confidence" BS)

Then here's a question, why not be "addicted" to porn?

If you think about it entertainment is an "addiction", its something we do and we crave but we DON'T NEED, we could be bored 24/7 and not die of it, yet we pay money to have access to it in a constant supply, more than we ever pay for porn (which is just your internet and electricity bill)

Yet nobody is ever talking about "quitting entertainment", where's that "nofun" movement JFL

"I've been watching too many movies, tv shows, youtube videos, etc and listening to too much music, podcasts, etc. My brain is overstimulated with and that makes day to day regular interactions and activities feel boring so I need to cut back on entertainment"

Nobody ever says this shit, but because sex and sexual pleasure is something taboo, we have these weird standards applied to it

Seriously, you don't plan on becoming an escortcel so why do nofap, when I start escortcelling regularly and I can afford to do it, I plan on stopping porn completely.......... BECAUSE I'LL HAVE NO NEED FOR IT (the only videos I may still have will be of myself maybe JFL)

I don't understand how this has become a normal train of thought for men, women probably masturbate like crazy, they can have multiple orgasms and keep going, they don't have the same shame and stigma on their "sex toys" like we do and they can very easily satisfy themselves with one

Do you see any female nofap movements, NO

Do you hear women talking about the magical side effects of masturbating too much, NO

Its all BS driven by shame, you don't want to stop masturbating because there's a benefit to it, you just want to stop because you feel ashamed for not getting sexual plesaure "the right way"/"a man's way", so nofap is like some weird form of penance for a lot of you, punishing yourself for not being able to get a woman

Please tell me how a "porn addiction" is a bad thing for a man who is never going to have sex, if he gets (PIED) "Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction" and he can only get hard to porn, then how is that a problem for him WHEN HE'LL NEVER HAVE SEX, I'd call that a useful adaptation not a problem, your body is becoming accustomed to what you have access to

PIED is only a problem for married men who become "porn addicts", and those guys are fucking idiots, because you have a wife, you should be fucking her, that's your job, and her job is to fuck you

I haven't been able to go more than 21 days without watching p. I don't think I'll ever be able to do nofap successfully. :feelsrope:

That's because you don't have an actual goal connected to your libido, and the only goal that exists like that is sex, so if your intention is to never have sex, then there literally is no reason for you to do nofap, why deny yourself pleasure when you have no alternative
 
If I ever go to escorts - then only to pretty ones
Too many incels refuse to give their virginity to a hooker out of pride. "A-hurp durp, no way I'm buying sex, I want muh validashun and muh magical first experience with muh pure virgin waifu." JFL, okay then, enjoy being a 40-year-old virgin.
For escortcelling especially for the first time - always go to an expensive brothel and get the most expensive youngest foid there. You'll have a more enjoyable time tbh ngl
You learn to stop thinking of yourself or anyone else for that matter, as someone who is "deserving of X"

The entire concept of ego revolves around you thinking that you DESERVE something, once you acknowledge that you don't deserve anything and nobody deserves anything, your ego will fade away

Of course that's going to be hard for most incels, because the majority of incels I've met on this site are ironically the stereotypical "entitled" incel normies like to talk about and use as an excuse as to why we all can't get women

They all think they DESERVE a virgin GF/Wife as if reality itself owes them this by virtue of existing, and that's why they have these standards and cravings for "female affection" and "feeling desired", because they think that's what they are owed from life

How can I put it, they bought the life game, and they didn't realize that the "love and companionship" addon was a DLC they had to randomly get from the games RNG algorithm or buy it from the game store

"Love" (well what people think love is) is not something anyone is owed, just because you see other people with it, and they get it easily, doesn't mean its "part of the package", our egos delude is into thinking that it is, and some injustice took place because we can't get it


It isn't a coincidence that a lot of the people who think like this are moralfags

Morality is just another aspect of ones ego, you adhere to a "higher standard" and by virtue of that you see yourself as a "higher being" and those that don't adhere to it as "beneath you" in some sense, abandoning conventional morality is another step in killing your ego


You need to also think like a realist, become more of a nihilist, you have to understand that what you want from life may not be what life has to offer in this current era, a lot of what many of you want, no longer exists, you were born too late and too early, I realized that long ago so I stopped chasing ghosts, as long as you have this stubborn optimist mindset of "I want X I'll keep waiting around for it" you'll never find any satisfaction in life



In Summary:
1. Stop thinking of yourself as someone who is deserving, stop thinking of yourself as "a person", as "somebody", you are nobody, nothing, you are the sum of your wants and desires just like any other living creature on the planet

2. Stop having an optimists perspective of "it'll happen" or "its out there" and/or stop being stubborn

3. Stop abiding by conventional morality, think of all humans around you as nothing, just as you think of yourself as nothing, be open to pursuing paths that others wouldn't because it isn't "the right thing"
Yep exactly
 
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So had sex with a escort for the first time and it was not a good experience. Here is what went down.
I looked up 3 escorts and booked them 1 after the other incase someone cancels i can fall back on others.
Once I got there she was a bit late in coming down. She gave me address of the apartment beside hers.
She came out and we walked into her place together. She did not look like her picture.

her maxilla was recessed and she was a bit chubby, maybe a 5-6/10. Picture was 8/10 girl with forward growth and thick body. Price was 200hh i bought 500 bucks.
I got in her apartment and we make some small talk and 1st thing i notice is when she puts her phone down there is a picture of her and her bf
as her phone screen saver. Lmao ok and she was getting lots of notifications, bitch didnt even put it on silent.

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Originally i wanted a bj without condom but she convinced me to do it without it so that is why i went with her. She undresses herself and i undress myself
and we get on her bed. We make more small talk but she starts talking forever so i start groping her. she puts a condom on my dick and starts sucking it.
I got hard pretty quick and stayed hard for full 30 mins. Then she got on top and did cowgirl position, then back to sucking dick and i tried to push her head more when she was giving bj and she said dont do that. Then she got on top again and i sucked on her tits. She noticed I was hard but was not cumming.

Next, we tried doggystyle position and she was moaning loud (maybe faking i am only 6 in). Then I tried fucking her with her legs on my shoulder cuz i heard dick goes in deeper. She complained it hurt a bit so she started sucking it again. This time she was biting my dick during bj and i told her dont do that and she stopped. Now we are half way in and I notoce this horrendous smell like gross. It was turning me off so much. It was coming from her pussy and when she started sucking my dick after putting it inside her pussy it almost made me puke. How the fuck is she sucking on it after that smelly pussy juice made it all dirty.
Anyways i ignored that.

We went back to missionary and she said it does not look like I am going to cum and its 25 minutes. I told her i dont care about cumming.
Before she was friendly but after that she seem distant. Maybe because me not cumming made her feels he was not hot enough and i somehow insulted her.

She gave me wipes to jerk my cock of but I said it's ok I don't need. I asked her how long average dude takes to cum. She said 10 - 15 minutes.
I continue dressing myself and she goes in bathroom to dress herself. Next I leave i still had more money left so I called the next whore and asked if she was avilable. So i ubered to her and waited there for 25 mins and she stood me up. While i was waiting for her there was a sketchy dude circling the block, he asked me for 50 cents but i had no coins so i gave him 10 bucks. 10 mins before i was leaving a girl came out the hotel and started circling the block with him. i found that sketch maybe they were trying to rob me. who knows but after that i went home.

Overall experience was shit and i would not do this again. I am going to stick to chadfishing hoes and phone sex with them because it simulates the feeling of them desiring me. These whores/escorts usually have a superiority complex and think they run the shit like when she told me dont push my head deeper when she gives bj, or i don't kiss, or blah blah. I am not use to that.

When chadfishing these girls are like slaves i can call them whores and sluts during phone sex and say the most vulgur shit and degrade them and they enjoy it cuz they see me enjoy saying that stuff to them. Also with chadfish the relationship with these girls are more personal since i talk to them everyday. They genuinely wana please chadfish cuz they don't want him leaving them so they say ok to everything. I really like that. Waking up to good morning texts and talking throughout the days adds to this experience. Receiving nudes and everything and being able to say whatever i want is just way better even thougough its not real.

When i fucked the escort i could feel her pussy around my dick but she still couldnt make me cum. But when i chadfish these girls i can make myself bust easily i actually have to hold back.

Anyways back to chadfish harem

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Conculsion: I'll give a pass on escortceling. It's not for me
After that i went home
Dn read.
 
I object to using the term "high class" to describe more expensive escorts, because at the end of the day, they're still whores, and they're not better human beings than other whores but yes, they do offer a slightly better experience.

I would rather avoid a trafficked, middle-aged, chain-smoking, Eastern European. (smoking is a huge turn-off btw) Keep in mind that revenue = quantity x price, so a cheaper whore has to see half a dozen clients just to earn as much as a more expensive one who sees 2-3 clients a day. And the more clients that a whore has to see in one day, the less time she has in between to clean herself up. Ideally, any wine glasses, discarded condoms, dirty towels left over from the previous client should be put away. I've never had an issue with this, thankfully.

And I do prefer whores whose conversational skills can put me at ease, but I'm not looking for someone to discuss quantum physics with. (I did meet one escort in London who claimed to be a chemistry student nearby. Makes sense, renting in South Ken isn't cheap.)

But keep in mind that you do get diminishing returns above a certain price point. A whore that costs £600 an hour is unlikely to be much better than one who is £300 an hour. I'd try to avoid ones below £130-150 an hour*, that's when things get dodgy. Also avoid seeing whores in shithole neighborhoods, the last thing you want to happen to you is to get mugged while you're carrying a lot of cash.

*keep in mind this is London pricing, you can probably find decent whores for lower prices in a smaller city like Manchester or Birmingham

All but two of my experiences with escorts have been more positive, and I've never seen or smelled any issues with hygiene.

UKcels: avoid Romanian whores

Like putting your dick in a warm slippery tube.

Over for poorcels though

Agreed except I don't mind Romanian or Eastern European as long as they can speak English.

Poorcels should wageslave like the rest of us.
 
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Your threads are consistently the best on the site.
You might have been asked already but you death grip masturbate, right?
 
he asked me for 50 cents but i had no coins so i gave him 10 bucks.
RedGlassessoyRedGlassessoyRed
 
Well at least your not a virgin anymore
 
Because porn is, at least from my experience, never as satisfying as a true orgasm.

You quoted a small portion leaving out context, if you had quoted the entire thing, you'd see why your answer makes no sense at all

If porn costs you nothing, and there are no side effects (there are none its all placebo "muh energy and confidence" BS)

Then here's a question, why not be "addicted" to porn?

My question basically was (using your terms) - "If you aren't going to ever experience a "true orgasm" then why not be a porn addict"

My point is literally that if you are never going to experience that kind of pleasure anyways, what are you starving yourself for, there's no reason to do it, there's nothing waiting for you after your trials/sacrifice
 
If you’re paying a hooker for sex, she should be doing things on your terms, otherwise you’re essentially submitting to a worthless whore. She didn’t give you a bj with no condom, and she didn’t let you control your own dick during your bj. You shouldn’t have paid her. You just cucked yourself because if you were chad, she would let you do whatever the fuck you wanted to her for free, yet you decided to pay her and STILL let her treat you like her beta-male bitch. It’s pathetic really.
 
I once received a warning for just briefly mentioning I escortceled once, but it's now ok to make detailed threads about it?
Anyway, I'm glad they're loosening the rules.

P.S. escortceling sucks. I'd rather jerk off. Far more enjoyable.
 
Check for crabs or pubic lice. She probably had the clap.
 
Dude, you're an idiot if you think larping as a Chad is better than fucking whores.
What do you get out of it? Nudes? You can just use Google and fap as much as you like.

You're craving the attention while knowing that these foids don't give a fuck abt you and are only attracted to a few pixels?
 
Well done on losing your virginity, you've at least known what sex feels like.

It's a reality check when you realise that women have body odor, poor hygiene, (the vaginal smell I'll get to in a minute) and are uglier than you without filters (again give me a minute). This is the same of all women in general like ones in your Chadfish experiments. Only mesomorphic teenage girls from the gym being the exception.

Pm me the escort profile if she is adultwork.com (UK), I'm curious to see if there were better profiles. Her line about "no bjs without condom" is a lie. I will not hire a prostitute who doesn't do BBBJ and will walk. Kissing and girlfriend experiences are becoming increasingly rare though.
The whole "men only last 15 minutes" is BULL-SHIT. She limits 15 minutes per client to avoid drying out
If you're big op (which sounds like you are) lot of John's are hung-cels, then women complain they dry out due to limited supply of female cum and pressure from the pimp to see 10 guys per day.

It sounds like you had some fun hence "erection for 30 minutes" but the cognitive dissonance of "this isn't as sanitary as Playboy model photoshoot".

Any woman over 25 (no need to wait til she's 40-50) is trash. That is the Blackpill but its this or nothing. Unless you go Gary Glitter and head to South America, Mexico or any country where the age of consent is low and visit the red light districts.

To put your mind at rest it sounds like your whore had bacterial vaginosis which isn't an STD. It's merely her vagina's eco system getting an international, no transferable to males, short-term infection most likely due to stress or depression. This is often worsened by alcohol or drug use- as a result of being pumped and dumped by Chads since ages 12-13.

Snapchat filters are the scourge of social media turning 37 year old , overweight or unshapely foids into appearing to be 23 year old females with more morphing effects than the T-1000 from Terminator 2. (Ironically beauty filter apps from snapchat were based on photoshop. The creator of photoshop worked on terminator 2 visual effects and invented that programme for that movie. Filter use the same Photoshop technology but the results are automatically generated).
Only by double taking do you see telltale signs she is 35 plus. Usually either a collapsed or lengthened philtrum or she's got plumped up botox lips and philtrum from a syringe.
 
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Dude, you're an idiot if you think larping as a Chad is better than fucking whores.
What do you get out of it? Nudes? You can just use Google and fap as much as you like.

You're craving the attention while knowing that these foids don't give a fuck abt you and are only attracted to a few pixels?
You think escorts give a fuck about you ?
They hate your existence and if it was legal they’d rather shoot you point blank in the head and take your money. They just hate your guts.

the whole vibe is just really bad. They are loose too cuz they fuck 3-5 guys everyday

On top of that you need to pay them money regularly every time you fuck. 500 a month or w/e.

clearly you haven’t received nudes in right context hence the comparison of nudes and porn
 
the whole vibe is just really bad.
i imagine it's the same vibe when you get a shitty cashier making faces and avoiding eye contact

that cashier is "your girlfriend" for 25 minutes
 
i imagine it's the same vibe when you get a shitty cashier making faces and avoiding eye contact

that cashier is "your girlfriend" for 25 minutes

basically. She just doesn’t wana be there and makes it well known. Or like Same vibe when a roastie gets paired up with a ugly male in school group projects. All her happiness goes away and she is in alert mode 24/7 when around us
 
Nope, but they actually fuck you.



Context doesn't matter because in the end the nudes are all that's left, everything else is just an illusion that you created in your and the foid's minds.
It's no secret this guy is going for online gf's with chadfishing and tbh I don't blame him. Don't judge a man who has suffered through hell for coping. Also he's a fucking genius.
 
What is a better cope than prostitution?
 
Nope, but they actually fuck you.



Context doesn't matter because in the end the nudes are all that's left, everything else is just an illusion that you created in your and the foid's minds.
yea cuz you paid or else she is repulsed by you
 
I see OP is in or near Toronto by the ads on the screen shots.

Start the van.
 
Don't judge a man who has suffered through hell for coping
I don't judge him, I fail to grasp how virtual relationships can be better than physical intercourse.

I also do some chadfishing once in a while but I lose interest pretty fast as I don't get much out of it. Nudes are fun and all but the quality is substandard compared to what you can find on the net
yea cuz you paid or else she is repulsed by you
Not disputing that, but I'd rather spend $500 on a night with a hot escort than have phone sex and nudes from random foids.
Also it would likely take me less time to make $500 than to chat the foids up.

I respect your dedication, bro. I'm totally unable to run more than 3 conversations with random foids at once.
 
Too many incels refuse to give their virginity to a hooker out of pride. "A-hurp durp, no way I'm buying sex, I want muh validashun and muh magical first experience with muh pure virgin waifu." JFL, okay then, enjoy being a 40-year-old virgin.
Enjoy getting infected by Chlamydia trachomatis just to be able brag on incels.co that you aren't 'virgin'.
 
How did you not cum wtf?

There is a transitional period between 15 years of "death grip syndrome" due to excessive porn use and slipping into a soft vagina, that only contracts if pumped hard.

With your wrist you are moving a mere 1 inch of foreskin. With sex you are moving you whole body back and forth.
 
The reason you couldn't cum with the escort but are able to cum through phone sex is because most of sex is about the feeling of being wanted by your sexual partner, you knew the escort probably thinks you're ugly or something and that is always at the back of your mind while fucking her. Sex isn't just about penis in vagina, it's a lot of things coming together. Lucky you though, I'd love to have hot sluts talking in my ear about the dirty things they'd do to me, no wonder you prefer phone sex to actual sex with a fatty

Fucking brutal! :(
 
Yup. Chad doesn't only hoard the best women, they get the best sex. Imagine having a prime aged, virgin, cute girl as your sex slave. Willing to do pretty much anything you want in bed only to satisfy you, even if it's uncomfortable or risky for her. This is what young pretty boy Chad gets.

Going to a prostitute is paying (very high money, in your case) to get a fraction of what Chad gets for free. Something inferior in every single aspect.

Also, that stuff where prostitutes keep wanting you to cum already is a classical, happened to me several times. When you try something like tittyfucking, they'll say "can you cum through this though?". They want you to cum ASAP and fuck off. Also they are disgusted by your sperm even minimally touching them, with very, very rare exceptions from older uglier whores who don't seem to even give a fuck anymore.
 
Imagine having a prime aged, virgin, cute girl as your sex slave. Willing to do pretty much anything you want in bed only to satisfy you, even if it's uncomfortable or risky for her. This is what young pretty boy Chad gets.
AAAAHHHH MAKE IT STOP :feelsohgod: :feelsohgod: :feelsohgod: :feelsohgod: :feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::woke::woke::woke::woke:
 
We went back to missionary and she said it does not look like I am going to cum and its 25 minutes.
@BlkPillPres

By accident I found an example about this also here. This is what happens. They start complaining about 5 minutes before the time is up if not cummed already.

Yes by next year
How do you explain this? You are still here with us in second half of 2021.
 
@BlkPillPres

By accident I found an example about this also here. This is what happens. They start complaining about 5 minutes before the time is up if not cummed already.
I must have been really lucky to be taken to the brothel I went to lol

This sound ridiculous

But what is just as ridiculous is to take that one experience, with that specific escort, in that specific country, and then declare that "paying for sex isn't worth it" ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET

There's no reason for you to remain in the country you are right now if you are an incel, its not as if you have "a life", I'll never understand this irrational attachment that I see many incels have to their country of birth

"I don't want to leave, my family and friends are here"

Ok, STFU and suffer then :feelskek: (your life isn't that bad if you'll stay sex starved just to be able to have conversations with people that could die at any moment, that's retarded to me though)
 
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I must have been really lucky to be taken to the brothel I went to lol

This sound ridiculous

But what is just as ridiculous is to take that one experience, with that specific escort, in that specific country, and then declare that "paying for sex isn't worth it" ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET

There's no reason for you to remain in the country you are right now if you are an incel, its not as if you have "a life", I'll never understand this irrational attachment that I see many incels have to their country of birth

"I don't want to leave, my family and friends are here"

Ok, STFU and suffer then :feelskek: (your life isn't that bad if you'll stay sex starved just to be able to have conversations with people that could die at any moment, that's retarded to me though)
Why you think that buying and selling sex being legal is cucked? (the other thread, you do not answer this direct question)

This was just a one example here that I stumbled upon right after saying that this is a thing based on what I have read on some Finnish review forums.

I want to move away, but how on earth is ugly autistic dude without qualifications going to earn a living in some country like Thailand? And getting a residency permit is impossible also in most situations, you can't just move as you wish. I'd like to move to the Philippines at first.

I don't have family or/and friends to hold me back.

You also have not moved (even from your parent's house!?) to another country, it is not easy to achieve permanently. I can move to other EU states, but that's it. That also requires finding a job there to get registered for residency.

Do you even understand what you write? There's no reason for @BlkPillPres to remain in the USA if he is an incel, but still he remains, year after year. Why? Probably the same reasons as I.
 
Why you think that buying and selling sex being legal is cucked? (the other thread, you do not answer this direct question)
I didn't get an alert for that thread (or maybe I missed it), but I'll answer here

I should have been more specific, its not that it being legal makes it cucked, its that when it is legal its usually structured in a cucked way where you don't have any leverage

For example take the whore I fucked, I payed a man and then entered the room, she could not reject my sexual advances, I knew that, she knew that, because she clearly wasn't working for herself (most women in the illegal sex market have a pimp as their protection)

So there is "security" for men when it comes to paid sex when its illegal, when it comes legal and that woman is a free agent, that's when women start trying to scam customers, not be as enthusiastic (give quality service), etc, because they are no longer beholden to someone else

Depending on how the laws work in your country, you could literally pay a whore and then she could walk of with your money and laugh in your face, because only you can be arrested, if you attack her for the money she can call the police, if you rape her and take what you paid for she can call the police

This is why I would prefer to operate within illegal markets, because men have more security within them

There's no reason for @BlkPillPres to remain in the USA if he is an incel, but still he remains, year after year. Why? Probably the same reasons as I.
I'm not trying to move to another country to struggle, just like I'm not trying to live paycheck to paycheck in order to have sex

I follow a plan

I paid for sex the first time to lose my virginity, I'm not getting back into the hooker/escort scene until I have passive income streams (don't have to work anymore)

For me financial freedom ranks at the top, so I'm aiming for that before anything else
 
Post your Chad fish msgs
 

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