Gymcel trait: alternating between size and leanness because neither works but you still hope

[Angry_runt]

No? Just me? Alright then...

 

[Deleted member 11159]

can you not have both?

 

[Deleted member 27249]

Lifiting is cope. No matter how much I lifted, a 6'2 guy would walk in the gym and look like he could lift 3 times more than me without ever working out. what's the point

 

[Angry_runt]

can you not have both?

You can to a point (unless you're on gear), but it's much harder.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

Hope is bluepilled

 

[Deleted member 11159]

You can to a point (unless you're on gear), but it's much harder.

What bodyfat percentage would you consider not lean?

 

[Uglyme]

Do you still have hope?

 

[Angry_runt]

What bodyfat percentage would you consider not lean?

I'd say above 12% but it depends. Some guys have the bone structure to look lean at more than that and some look kinda pudgy even at 12%.