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Not impressed as plenty created empires in 100 years. Still impressive doe@Logic55 @joocel52 thots?
And its not from "nothing" they aint some steppe tribe. They had plenty of old world technology, administration, at first support of british crown...@Logic55 @joocel52 thots?
It's impressive@Logic55 @joocel52 thots?
This"nothing"? I mean I get the gist of the post, but this is just retarded. The colonial entities, and structures in America were mediated by european knowledge, materials, men, thinkers, soldiers, etc., which themselves were mediated by older civilizations, practically an ad infinitum past.
True, the colonists already had an advantage. They simply just brought their technology with them.And its not from "nothing" they aint some steppe tribe. They had plenty of old world technology, administration, at first support of british crown...
Here are some shitskins who did it too:
Inca,
Aztecs,
Sassanids,
Parthians.
The last ones were actually steppe tribe btw
They were being hyperbolicAnd its not from "nothing" they aint some steppe tribe. They had plenty of old world technology, administration, at first support of british crown...
I'm aware.Here are some shitskins who did it too:
Inca,
Aztecs,
Sassanids,
I'm aware, as were the ScythiansParthians.
The last ones were actually steppe tribe btw
Well yes, but the point was what they did with that."nothing"? I mean I get the gist of the post, but this is just retarded. The colonial entities, and structures in America were mediated by european knowledge, materials, men, thinkers, soldiers, etc., which themselves were mediated by older civilizations, practically an ad infinitum past.
It wasn't as big of an advantageTrue, the colonists already had an advantage. They simply just brought their technology with them.
Understood.They were being hyperbolic
Point was, they utilized that to build an Empire like you said.
Scythians didnt really make an empire doe, parthian one was organized comparable to romeI'm aware.
I'm aware, as were the Scythians
The natives while they did have guerilla fighting had inferior weapens, smaller nunbers, and dying en mass due to illnesses. They were also without the administrative capabilities and unified force of euros. If the yucatan mayans, who were far more advanced and gave a far greater fight than the northern amerindians lost, american victory in usa land was secure from startWell yes, but the point was what they did with that.
It wasn't as big of an advantage
The Natives knew the lands, and also fought in "guerrilla" style which threw settlers off. Many Natives died due to disease, even modern scholars agree it hardly was a "genocide"
The most I recall hearing, was using smallpox blankets a few times in the French-Indian war, but that's comparable to Medieval armies using disease-infected corpses.
A liberal revolution to topple the English crown, inspired by the French Revolution, caused entirely by British taxation mind you. Neither as reactionary as the monarchists of those times, nor as revolutionary as the Montagnards of the French rev. they turned into a centrist shekel-led entity. I'm not impressed tbhWell yes, but the point was what they did with that.
I'm not impressed tbh
Hittites, Luwians, Phrygians, Lycians, Armenians, Kartvelians.And its not from "nothing" they aint some steppe tribe. They had plenty of old world technology, administration, at first support of british crown...
Here are some shitskins who did it too:
Inca,
Aztecs,
Sassanids,
Parthians.
The last ones were actually steppe tribe btw
It is ahistorical to attribute everything to white people.
indeed, incredibley so.Hittites, Luwians, Phrygians, Lycians, Armenians, Kartvelians.
Anatolia has many such peoples. It is ahistorical to attribute everything to white people.
The Scythians were iranic nomads. Many Turkic people claim them because of their nomadic nature. It should be common sense that they were not a civilization like Rome. No source denies this.Scythians didnt really make an empire doe, parthian one was organized comparable to rome
The Scythians (/ˈsɪθiən/ or /ˈsɪðiən/) or Scyths (/ˈsɪθ/, but note Scytho- (/ˈsaɪθʊ/) in composition) and sometimes also referred to as the Pontic Scythians,[7][8] were an ancient Eastern Iranic equestrian nomadic people who had migrated during the 9th to 8th centuries BC from Central Asia to the Pontic Steppe in modern-day Ukraine and Southern Russia, where they remained established from the 7th century BC until the 3rd century BC.
exactely. the parthians meanwhile established their capital at ctesiphon, and were civilizedThe Scythians were iranic nomads. Many Turkic people claim them because of their nomadic nature. It should be common sense that they were not a civilization like Rome. No source denies this.
Youre Jewish. Jews have documented their history for thousands of years. I do not believe everything in the Talmud or Bible is truth but a character like moses did save the jews from egypt. This is their history. I don't understand the enjoyment white people have in denying our history on these platforms.indeed, incredibley so.
Great babylon too was nothing but a village once, same with assyria. Purepecha, Various indian empires, Various indonesian empires, the ottomans themselves lol all these started from nothing often
Some whites on this site cope with being incels by thinking they are superior to anyone who isnt white. thus my people's history and your turkish history are summarized as "evil kikes and retarded sandniggers"Youre Jewish. Jews have documented their history for thousands of years. I do not believe everything in the Talmud or Bible is truth but a character like moses did save the jews from egypt. This is their history. I don't understand the enjoyment white people have in denying our history on these platforms.
Comparing scythians and parthians is a joke. The sole reason for the revival of Scythian interest is because they had red beards. That is it. The Greeks wrote only wrote bad about them. Calling them eastern savages.exactely. the parthians meanwhile established their capital at ctesiphon, and were civilized
True, the colonists already had an advantage. They simply just brought their white technology with them.
Yea scythians were fucking savages, even as early as assyria they were viewed this wayComparing scythians and parthians is a joke. The sole reason for the revival of Scythian interest is because they had red beards. That is it. The Greeks wrote only wrote bad about them. Calling them eastern savages.
Later Timur and his turkic Horde would be called scythians as well. Timur had an mongoloid appearance. The reason timur was compared to scythians was his barbaric nature. He ruled over scythia too.
I have written very detailed information on this site regarding Turkish history. What i see from white nationalists is nothing compared to my work. I'm not beating my chest. I'm simply speaking the truth.Some whites on this site cope with being incels by thinking they are superior to anyone who isnt white. thus my people's history and your turkish history are summarized as "evil kikes and retarded sandniggers"
Indeed! Imagime now if i or you wre arguing for turkish or jewish superiority. We would be mocked and most likely banned.I have written very detailed information on this site regarding Turkish history. What i see from white nationalists is nothing compared to my work. I'm not beating my chest. I'm simply speaking the truth.
There is a certain disingenuity i notice with these types. They can never stay on topic. Are quick to insult you. Or ignore you because you are a 'subhuman'. This should tell you everything. They say inaccurate information and want you to nod along. When you correct them then you are the villain.
Scythians did impact a lot of culture though:The Scythians were iranic nomads. Many Turkic people claim them because of their nomadic nature. It should be common sense that they were not a civilization like Rome. No source denies this.
They mostly impacted Turkic peoples in Central Asia and Iranic peoples. To this day from Kurds to Kyrgyz are Scythians hailed as ancestors. In Europe Scythian is a trend that rose because of Youtube videos. Thousands of years of cultural continuation cannot be compared to your claim. A claim based on having watched a video on YouTube. Feeling you have a connection.Scythians did impact a lot of culture though:
Who were the Scythians? Origins, culture, and genetics
Everything you need to know about the Scythians!thuletide.wordpress.com
No they weren'tYea scythians were fucking savages, even as early as assyria they were viewed this way
They influenced many aspects of cultureScythians did impact a lot of culture though:
Who were the Scythians? Origins, culture, and genetics
Everything you need to know about the Scythians!thuletide.wordpress.com
Never said I was, I'm just stating Whites as a collective are better.Some whites on this site cope with being incels by thinking they are superior to anyone who isnt white.
Never said sands were "retarded" jflthus my people's history and your turkish history are summarized as "evil kikes and retarded sandniggers"
I feel no connection to them, I'm just pointing out their impacts and also what they were genetically:They mostly impacted Turkic peoples in Central Asia and Iranic peoples. To this day from Kurds to Kyrgyz are Scythians hailed as ancestors. In Europe Scythian is a trend that rose because of Youtube videos. Thousands of years of cultural continuation cannot be compared to your claim. A claim based on having watched a video on YouTube. Feeling you have a connection.
It's because it's a similar dialectic to what we see in the mainstream, which incase you didnt notice is about discrediting Whites in order to enhance White guilt.When we bring valid points to show shitskins arent subhuman retards, its bec we are lying, sjws etc.
That is not what a materially advanced culture means. By that logic youd have to give credit to bantus for being great hunters, which i doubt you want to...No they weren't
They were very advanced horseback riders
Turks are white saar! Also euros mad ejews bankersAs shown here:
They influenced many aspects of culture
Never said I was, I'm just stating Whites as a collective are better.
Never said sands were "retarded" jfl
All I have stated, is that the Turks were "closer" to Whites than many other non-White groups, yet they cultivated a tri-continental Empire. And as for Jews, well they have caused many issues with usury and banking.
I do not care abiut white raceI feel no connection to them, I'm just pointing out their impacts and also what they were genetically:
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It's because it's a similar dialectic to what we see in the mainstream, which incase you didnt notice is about discrediting Whites in order to enhance White guilt.
They were more than Bantus who were more or less hunter gatherersThat is not what a materially advanced culture means. By that logic youd have to give credit to bantus for being great hunters, which i doubt you want to..
Never said Turks are White jfl, just they were "closer" to it.Turks are white saar! Also euros mad ejews bankers
kI do not care abiut white race
If this were true, Timur the slow and Atilla the Hun, would not be called Scythian. They were both barbarians who committed large massacres. The Scythian identity was always tied to barbarian peoples. The Turks being the recent barbarians that rose to prominence.They were very advanced horseback riders
As shown here:
As your chart shows. The Scythians had a large impact on Turkic, Mongolian and Iranic peoples. Eastern Scythian also called Sakas. Their costumes would later be adopted by Turkic peoples of Central Asia.I feel no connection to them, I'm just pointing out their impacts and also what they were genetically
What I mean by their respectable culture, was its utilization of horseback riding and archery which I've been fascinated by heavilyIf this were true, Timur the slow and Atilla the Hun, would not be called Scythian. They were both barbarians who committed large massacres. The Scythian identity was always tied to barbarian peoples. The Turks being the recent barbarians that rose to prominence.
Perhaps the most interesting examples of Scythian influence are those upon the far-east. For example, the Kofun Period (250-538 AD) in Japan, sometimes described as the “mysterious century,” saw the introduction of numerous stereotypically Indo-European cultural elements, including kurgan burial mounds, horses, and mounted archery (which became an honored tradition among the samurai). Kofun Period art was influenced by various Iranic peoples but the Scythians in particular are believed to have influenced the Japanese aristocratic system. Kofun period Japan is renowned for its high rates of migration from mainland East Asia. So, these remarkable cultural similarities may have been transmitted secondhand via Chinese or Korean migrants, who were also influenced by Scythian cultures. However, some historians have suggested that the powerful Kofun kingdom of Kibi may have been founded by Scythians themselves. See Victor Mair’s Sino-Platonic Papers for more information.
Yeah I'm aware, that was mainly the Eastern branch it seemsAs your chart shows. The Scythians had a large impact on Turkic, Mongolian and Iranic peoples. Eastern Scythian also called Sakas. Their costumes would later be adopted by Turkic peoples of Central Asia.
I know, I wasn't saying everyone wishes they were Scythian, but that they were obviously influential and active in the region.View attachment 1338734Saka - Wikipedia
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Before allegations of Nationalism arise. This has nothing in common with Turkey. Turkey is based around the the local culture of Anatolia. I have no stake in this. I'm speaking from a historical standpoint.
My point being that the western branch didn't continue a legacy like the Eastern branch. The eastern branch. The resurgence of Scythian talk is purely for a white pride game. Let's not pretend Ukrainians have lots of culture from Scythians. They have their culture from the Balto-Slavs. The balto-slavs derive their identity and culture from the corded ware culture.The Western branch was quite different, however.
They were also mixed hapas like Turks right?The Scythians were iranic nomads. Many Turkic people claim them because of their nomadic nature.
The Eastern Scythians were. Western Scythians had traces of EE.They were also mixed hapas like Turks right?
If this were true, Timur the slow and Atilla the Hun, would not be called Scythian. They were both barbarians who committed large massacres. The Scythian identity was always tied to barbarian peoples. The Turks being the recent barbarians that rose to prominence.
As your chart shows. The Scythians had a large impact on Turkic, Mongolian and Iranic peoples. Eastern Scythian also called Sakas. Their costumes would later be adopted by Turkic peoples of Central Asia.
View attachment 1338734Saka - Wikipedia
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Before allegations of Nationalism arise. This has nothing in common with Turkey. Turkey is based around the the local culture of Anatolia. I have no stake in this. I'm speaking from a historical standpoint.
Me when I'm 30% east Asian:
So Central Asian Turks can claim them ig
@Chudpreet this is why steppe in jats couldn't have been from Scythians since jats don't have any East Asian in them
Fair enoughMy point being that the western branch didn't continue a legacy like the Eastern branch. The eastern branch.
I get what you're saying here, but the reason for this pushback is due to the anti-white agenda we see in the media, that's why I'm addressing it.The resurgence of Scythian talk is purely for a white pride game.
I know, I've found that interesting.They have their culture from the Balto-Slavs. The balto-slavs derive their identity and culture from the corded ware culture.
I think I've worded it all wrong, I meant it had impact in the regions which you spoke of.Corded Ware culture - Wikipedia
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Balto-Slavic languages - Wikipedia
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Let's discuss the scythian lands.
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The Western branch barely touched Europe. The descendants of the Scythians. Those who have identified as such for thousands of years. Reside in the Caucasus.
The Ossetes
The Ossetes, a small nation inhabiting two adjacent states in the central Caucasus, are the last remaining linguistic and cultural descendants of the ancient no…www.bloomsbury.com
No my friend. There is no huge cultural impact in Europe of which you speak.
Well yes, and I am ware they were viewed as "barbaric"The nomad culture has been viewed as barbaric by europeans and Middle Eastern peoples forever. If this wasn't the case then europeans would have nomadic traditions. They don't.
Media presentation of white people is disgraceful. White people are beautiful. I visited Hungary a year ago. It was incredibly beautiful. A small nation yet very captivating. The people were friendly and welcoming.I get what you're saying here, but the reason for this pushback is due to the anti-white agenda we see in the media, that's why I'm addressing it.
The vikings were similar in nature. Warrior people that took what they wanted. If you're American you maybe have Viking ancestry. Im not sure about your background.But the thing is, I think that their culture was admirable in certain regards. I'm aware that many Europeans look down on this in the modern day and past, which sadly is why I think so many are "soy" due to neglecting warrior culture and values.
Yeah I've always liked Hungary, though they don't seem to get on with their neighborsMedia presentation of white people is disgraceful. White people are beautiful. I visited Hungary a year ago. It was incredibly beautiful. A small nation yet very captivating. The people were friendly and welcoming.
I may come across like that, since to me it seems a lot of ethnics here always try to one-up the White usersWe aren't the media though. I don't hate you because you're white. @joocel52 does not either. We have an issue with your writings as it makes us seem historically inferior to you.
Fair enough, I admit I was too hasty in mu judgementsThis is simply not true. As you can see none of us have insulted you either. We simply discuss.
Which ones? I've used various cited genetic articles.Many of your sources are not accurate too. I have told you this before. You haven't been receptive to me when I did.
I might have some, we do have a good pocket of Americans of Norwegian descent who migrated to parts of the Midwest(Minnesota)The vikings were similar in nature. Warrior people that took what they wanted. If you're American you maybe have Viking ancestry. Im not sure about your background.
Forgive my absence friend. I agree fully. I have nothing against whitesMedia presentation of white people is disgraceful. White people are beautiful. I visited Hungary a year ago. It was incredibly beautiful. A small nation yet very captivating. The people were friendly and welcoming.
We aren't the media though. I don't hate you because you're white. @joocel52 does not either. We have an issue with your writings as it makes us seem historically inferior to you. This is simply not true. As you can see none of us have insulted you either. We simply discuss. Many of your sources are not accurate too. I have told you this before. You haven't been receptive to me when I did.
The vikings were similar in nature. Warrior people that took what they wanted. If you're American you maybe have Viking ancestry. Im not sure about your background.
i get you and partly agree, but again the scythians werent a materiallt advanced culture. Admirable yes - but not a materially advanced oneBut the thing is, I think that their culture was admirable in certain regards. I'm aware that many Europeans look down on this in the modern day and past, which sadly is why I think so many are "soy" due to neglecting warrior culture and values.
"nothing"? I mean I get the gist of the post, but this is just retarded. The colonial entities, and structures in America were mediated by european knowledge, materials, men, thinkers, soldiers, etc., which themselves were mediated by older civilizations, practically an ad infinitum past.