Germany if it didn't have mass immigration

[WizardofSoda]

Germany population 1990: 79.3 million
Germany population 2020: 83.1 million

Germany births minus deaths 1990-2020: -4.0 million
Germany net immigration 1990-2020: +7.8 million

Germany population change 1990-2020: +3.8 million


Assuming immigrants are the same age and have the same birthrates as Germans which is a big assumption, Germany's population without mass immigration over the last 30 years would be 75.3 million. Instead of 83.1 million.

 

[Magistrattum]

Just wait until women realize that with immigration, the tall, blonde and blue-eyed chad will disappear, death squads will get formed immediatly

 

[WizardofSoda]

Just wait until women realize that with immigration, the tall, blonde and blue-eyed chad will disappear, death squads will get formed immediatly

Simps will join those death squads for a chance at pussy.

 

[Magistrattum]

Simps will join those death squads for a chance at pussy.

The future looks quite cucked doesn't it?

 

[ForevrAlone]

Germany, especially Berlin is cucked beyond repair. Niggers, Rapefugees and Faggots/trannies run rampant. You can't even oppose the Faggot gang agenda or you'll be fired/expelled immediately.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Germany, especially Berlin is cucked beyond repair. Niggers, Rapefugees and Faggots/trannies run rampant. You can't even oppose the Faggot gang agenda or you'll be fired/expelled immediately.

Cuckery has serious consequences for society.

Something I realized is the massive rise in faggotry and now trannies is because most men can't find a wife. Because white women are Chad only.

 

[ethniccel1]

Germany population 1990: 79.3 million
Germany population 2020: 83.1 million

Germany births minus deaths 1990-2020: -4.0 million
Germany net immigration 1990-2020: +7.8 million

Germany population change 1990-2020: +3.8 million


Assuming immigrants are the same age and have the same birthrates as Germans which is a big assumption, Germany's population without mass immigration over the last 30 years would be 75.3 million. Instead of 83.1 million.

In total a net + of 7,8million.

Without immigration property prices would fall, no people would build or buy homes or any buildings any more because deaths would exceed births meaning many building owners simply would not find anybody to rent or buy their property and they would then rot away. Therefore, no bank loans and the economy suffers. But now because of immigration there is construction occuring in every city and immigrants are taking up those newly built apartments.

Dwindling toothpaste sales with declining population numbers, dwindling toilet paper sales etc etc, aging population means less youngsters paying into the medical scheme to care for the aged of society, dwindling tax base to fund EU expansion , no new apprenctices for the industrial sector etc etc etc.


You get the point. White women are refusing to reproduce, European economies would stagnate then decline because of this making Europe a tiny little meaningless power i.e a 5th or 6th rate power even below Nigeria.

point is white women are refusing to reproduce. I know many white women from work circles in their late 20s, 30's and early 40's. 9/10 are childless and those who have children majority have 1 and at most 2. That is the average woman in Germany, Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway

 

[WizardofSoda]

In total a net + of 7,8million.

Without immigration property prices would fall, no people would build or buy homes or any buildings any more because deaths would exceed births meaning many building owners simply would not find anybody to rent or buy their property and they would then rot away. Therefore, no bank loans and the economy suffers. But now because of immigration there is construction occuring in every city and immigrants are taking up those newly built apartments.

Dwindling toothpaste sales with declining population numbers, dwindling toilet paper sales etc etc, aging population means less youngsters paying into the medical scheme to care for the aged of society, dwindling tax base to fund EU expansion , no new apprenctices for the industrial sector etc etc etc.


You get the point. White women are refusing to reproduce, European economies would stagnate then decline because of this making Europe a tiny little meaningless power i.e a 5th or 6th rate power even below Nigeria.

point is white women are refusing to reproduce. I know many white women from work circles in their late 20s, 30's and early 40's. 9/10 are childless and those who have children majority have 1 and at most 2. That is the average woman in Germany, Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway

Ya good example the home/condos/apartments building sector of the economy would basically have to shut down without immigration.

The price of houses would fall through the floor when there is a surplus. This is seen in some cities in America where population has declined over time. You can buy a house there for like $30,000. So no need for the banking, real estate agents, the housing loan bonds, etc.

People would be making payments on like $750,000 mortgages, in areas where the value of their house fell to $75,000. People would walk away from the houses & mortgages. As seen in the US housing collapse in 2009. Then as the mortgages are written down, the other side, the bondholders value of their bonds written down. But those are groups like the pension funds.

With falling population and falling tax base, the German government would have to be downsized. Either in number of employees or their average incomes or both.


I think the German state and others view it like they want German women to have children. But if they don't, the German state will bring in immigrant men and women to replace them.

Also German men and women will have children with more fertile immigrants. So the children will be more fertile. Meanwhile fertile German women are having children so their genes are going to the next generation.

 

[Zhou Chang-Xing]

The issue I have with this form of mass migration is that it doesn't really solve the problems why it's permitted. Without immigration Germany would be Japan, but the reason the Germans want a lot of immigrants is to re-vitalise their economy to have a new generation of tax payers to pay for the elderly.

But most low skilled immigrants often become a tax negative and not a tax positive, essentially being toilets. Toilets tend to pay less taxes than what they take out of the system, just like these immigrants. The only immigrants that are actually valuable are so rare that they number in the hundreds of thousands or perhaps a million, not enough to actually fill the gap.

So the only things that these low value immigrants do is raise the price of living and housing, lower the income of low skilled indigenous German workers by offering to do the same work for less and increasing the labour supply giving the Germans less capabilities to bargain, and they often collect welfare while many are chronically unemployed.

Immigration can work, but this type of immigration has proven itself time and time again that it doesn't work.

 

[Zhou Chang-Xing]

The price of houses would fall through the floor when there is a surplus. This is seen in some cities in America where population has declined over time. You can buy a house there for like $30,000. So no need for the banking, real estate agents, the housing loan bonds, etc.

People would be making payments on like $750,000 mortgages, in areas where the value of their house fell to $75,000. People would walk away from the houses & mortgages. As seen in the US housing collapse in 2009. Then as the mortgages are written down, the other side, the bondholders value of their bonds written down. But those are groups like the pension funds.

Yep, plus second generation immigrants have the same low fertility rates as natives, in the Netherlands we now see a housing building boom, but the population is projected to decline over the decades.

Housing is an infinitely good investment, until... It isn't.

Also notice that such government supported industries (housing, education, and medicine) are the only sectors that haven't experienced technological deflation.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/unstoppable-tech-driven-deflation-will-be-the-next-economic-challenge/

A major issue is also that today's economists completely ignore technological deflationary pressure (this is what caused "The Lost Decade" in Heisei period Japan), the "solution" that mass immigration provides literally only works on these artificially inflated prices.

Chinese migrants and government grants inflate the price of American universities. Government subsidies keep medicines expensive because there's no market incentive to compete, mass-immigration causes housing prices to rise non-stop.

People worry about inflation now but only a few people (Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk, the Bank of Japan, Etc.) actually correctly identify the issues that deflation will cause, rather than seeing how everything has been objectively getting cheaper in the past century people look at a few sectors and scream inflation.

In reality, the world we'll live in in only a few decades will have more houses than we'll know what to do with as the elderly are dying off, especially the Baby Boomers, and immigrants don't maintain high fertility rates over multiple generations, plus the countries where they are coming from also have fertility rates below replacement meaning that their countries of origin will also try to prevent people from migrating elsewhere as the global population (outside of Black Africa) will start to decline.

Generation Beta will live in a world where there are more houses than people and it wouldn't be rare to see lower middle class people own multiple homes (some will probably just have "storage homes") and these people will wonder why we were so obsessed about the price of housing that we based our entire economy on it.

All humans on this planet fit in Texas, the global population growth is already slowing, unless we adequately address technological deflation and low birth rates we are headed for a disaster.

 

[WizardofSoda]

The issue I have with this form of mass migration is that it doesn't really solve the problems why it's permitted. Without immigration Germany would be Japan, but the reason the Germans want a lot of immigrants is to re-vitalise their economy to have a new generation of tax payers to pay for the elderly.

But most low skilled immigrants often become a tax negative and not a tax positive, essentially being toilets. Toilets tend to pay less taxes than what they take out of the system, just like these immigrants. The only immigrants that are actually valuable are so rare that they number in the hundreds of thousands or perhaps a million, not enough to actually fill the gap.

So the only things that these low value immigrants do is raise the price of living and housing, lower the income of low skilled indigenous German workers by offering to do the same work for less and increasing the labour supply giving the Germans less capabilities to bargain, and they often collect welfare while many are chronically unemployed.

Immigration can work, but this type of immigration has proven itself time and time again that it doesn't work.

One example of how stupid the Europeans are is when they got millions of male refugees. Most of those guys from Syria actually do have professions and educations and work experience.

But the Europeans will never let them work. Because they didn't go to German schools, and do the German apprenticeships. And the Germans like all the other Europeans control the number of new people allowed into fields like in the trade guild days. Even if an electrician from Syria wants to start college again for electrician in Germany. They just say oh you don't have the prerequisite highschool courses in Germany.

So then the guy has to compete for low skill jobs, but there is already low skilled Germans who are unemployed going for those jobs. So even if he gets a low skill, low paid job, he is just displacing a German worker. What about starting a small business. Never in Germany. You have to have the licenses, permits, quotas, etc.. which are all already owned by wealthy people and the state doesn't allow more.


So many Syrians who actually did have skills, they ended up going back to Syria when the war there calmed down, after not be allowed to work in Europe. But who stays, its criminals and unskilled people. Strangely the German government seems to prefer these type of criminal and unskilled immigrants.

 

[Emba]

Just wait until women realize that with immigration, the tall, blonde and blue-eyed chad will disappear, death squads will get formed immediatly

14 words bro

 

[Magistrattum]

14 words bro

 

[Transcended Trucel]

One example of how stupid the Europeans are is when they got millions of male refugees. Most of those guys from Syria actually do have professions and educations and work experience.

But the Europeans will never let them work. Because they didn't go to German schools, and do the German apprenticeships. And the Germans like all the other Europeans control the number of new people allowed into fields like in the trade guild days. Even if an electrician from Syria wants to start college again for electrician in Germany. They just say oh you don't have the prerequisite highschool courses in Germany.

So then the guy has to compete for low skill jobs, but there is already low skilled Germans who are unemployed going for those jobs. So even if he gets a low skill, low paid job, he is just displacing a German worker. What about starting a small business. Never in Germany. You have to have the licenses, permits, quotas, etc.. which are all already owned by wealthy people and the state doesn't allow more.


So many Syrians who actually did have skills, they ended up going back to Syria when the war there calmed down, after not be allowed to work in Europe. But who stays, its criminals and unskilled people. Strangely the German government seems to prefer these type of criminal and unskilled immigrants.

giga brutal truths. Eurocucks government like criminals,rapids and general scum than normal wagies. It is why they'll never surpass USA and will fall behind the chinks or stagnate at best. They also refuse to change their systems. Constantly make nonsensical decisions(France imports massive amount of unfiltered uneducated Muslims, bans hijab and other shit then bitches about terrorism). These eurocucks also then keep bitching at us ameriMUTTs as if they are better.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Yep, plus second generation immigrants have the same low fertility rates as natives, in the Netherlands we now see a housing building boom, but the population is projected to decline over the decades.

Housing is an infinitely good investment, until... It isn't.

Also notice that such government supported industries (housing, education, and medicine) are the only sectors that haven't experienced technological deflation.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/unstoppable-tech-driven-deflation-will-be-the-next-economic-challenge/

A major issue is also that today's economists completely ignore technological deflationary pressure (this is what caused "The Lost Decade" in Heisei period Japan), the "solution" that mass immigration provides literally only works on these artificially inflated prices.

Chinese migrants and government grants inflate the price of American universities. Government subsidies keep medicines expensive because there's no market incentive to compete, mass-immigration causes housing prices to rise non-stop.

View attachment 652383

People worry about inflation now but only a few people (Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk, the Bank of Japan, Etc.) actually correctly identify the issues that deflation will cause, rather than seeing how everything has been objectively getting cheaper in the past century people look at a few sectors and scream inflation.

In reality, the world we'll live in in only a few decades will have more houses than we'll know what to do with as the elderly are dying off, especially the Baby Boomers, and immigrants don't maintain high fertility rates over multiple generations, plus the countries where they are coming from also have fertility rates below replacement meaning that their countries of origin will also try to prevent people from migrating elsewhere as the global population (outside of Black Africa) will start to decline.

Generation Beta will live in a world where there are more houses than people and it wouldn't be rare to see lower middle class people own multiple homes (some will probably just have "storage homes") and these people will wonder why we were so obsessed about the price of housing that we based our entire economy on it.

All humans on this planet fit in Texas, the global population growth is already slowing, unless we adequately address technological deflation and low birth rates we are headed for a disaster.

Ya very, very few people understand that. That is why I was arguing for years and years for the mass printing and getting the printed money to everybody on a monthly continuing basis.

The way to deal with the deflation is however much the technological deflation is pulling down prices. Even when it gets to like 10% per year, to increase the rate of printing and the monthly amounts going to everybody in the country to overcome the deflation and keep hitting the 2% inflation target.

As you are saying for the areas which are government controlled, they need to open up to free markets wherever possible. Even free markets within the government ran operations through contracting out.


Its a very different world when there is a surplus of everything. Like imagine a country goes from 4 children per woman to 2 children per woman. Now there is already enough houses for everybody. So as an example people inherit their grandparents houses, and then have no mortgage for life.

One huge change which I think the Europeans are fighting very hard, is a world of surplus is a world where class doesn't mean very much. Granted the rich family inherits a mansion, while the poor family inherits a shitty house, but the actual difference is small. Because both then have houses.

 

[Uninvited]

Gerministan is finished.
The last hope Europe had was in thev1949s.
Now it is over.

 

[WizardofSoda]

giga brutal truths. Eurocucks government like criminals,rapids and general scum than normal wagies. It is why they'll never surpass USA and will fall behind the chinks or stagnate at best. They also refuse to change their systems. Constantly make nonsensical decisions(France imports massive amount of unfiltered uneducated Muslims, bans hijab and other shit then bitches about terrorism). These eurocucks also then keep bitching at us ameriMUTTs as if they are better.

In the US, Muslims are one of our highest income groups. They are really into making money culturally. You just have to let them work in their professions they are skilled at and start businesses. Then some dune coon who is working 40 hours a week, hes too tired to join the latest protest for the Islamic Emirate of Chicago.

The Euros seem pissed because we did the hard reforms and they didn't.. then we get the benefits and they don't.

 

[ethniccel1]

Ya good example the home/condos/apartments building sector of the economy would basically have to shut down without immigration.

The price of houses would fall through the floor when there is a surplus. This is seen in some cities in America where population has declined over time. You can buy a house there for like $30,000. So no need for the banking, real estate agents, the housing loan bonds, etc.

People would be making payments on like $750,000 mortgages, in areas where the value of their house fell to $75,000. People would walk away from the houses & mortgages. As seen in the US housing collapse in 2009. Then as the mortgages are written down, the other side, the bondholders value of their bonds written down. But those are groups like the pension funds.

With falling population and falling tax base, the German government would have to be downsized. Either in number of employees or their average incomes or both.


I think the German state and others view it like they want German women to have children. But if they don't, the German state will bring in immigrant men and women to replace them.

Also German men and women will have children with more fertile immigrants. So the children will be more fertile. Meanwhile fertile German women are having children so their genes are going to the next generation.

yep that sums it up.

European elites are a group who seek to be powerful, it is obvious by observing their projects and undertakings expanding the EU, involving themselves in conflicts etc etc.

Cant be a power bloc though with low population numbers. Stormfront cuck types frothing at the mouth talking about how they will deal with the immigrants when society crashes but they themselves are having no children or at most 1 or 2 max.Infact immigration will even increase. Just to remind you, Germanys most industrious workers the baby boomers are now entering retirement. These people are cucks who work hard long hours are blue pilled and swallow every nonsence the government and soyciety brainwash them with paying some of the highest taxes in the world. I bet you heard of the hard working industrious German stereotype? It is this generation I am describing, they really work hard and now , like right now in this point in time they are now going into retirement. So guess what, immigration will increase by a multitude compared to the previous waves of immigration. Look up the statistics, this age group make up the bulk of German society, who will pay for their pensions? Definately not these pampered spoilt German brats who are too pampered to do the hard work that the boomer generation did.

And the immigrants coming in will be muslim because they work hard as well. Again stormer cucks saying muslims are lazy on welfare etc yet they dont understand muslim culture. No muslim women will EVER marry an unemployed muslim man, it is the muslim culture. Of course there are women who will but the majority will not though.
Eventually all those young immigrant men will work even crappy jobs if they want to get their dicks wet and they will stay employed . The French and German European elites know this and thats why they love muslims. They dont mind a few riots and radical islamists once in a while as long as their economic engine is running smoothly and well oiled

 

[WizardofSoda]

yep that sums it up.

European elites are a group who seek to be powerful, it is obvious by observing their projects and undertakings expanding the EU, involving themselves in conflicts etc etc.

Cant be a power bloc though with low population numbers. Stormfront cuck types frothing at the mouth talking about how they will deal with the immigrants when society crashes but they themselves are having no children or at most 1 or 2 max.Infact immigration will even increase. Just to remind you, Germanys most industrious workers the baby boomers are now entering retirement. These people are cucks who work hard long hours are blue pilled and swallow every nonsence the government and soyciety brainwash them with paying some of the highest taxes in the world. I bet you heard of the hard working industrious German stereotype? It is this generation I am describing, they really work hard and now , like right now in this point in time they are now going into retirement. So guess what, immigration will increase by a multitude compared to the previous waves of immigration. Look up the statistics, this age group make up the bulk of German society, who will pay for their pensions? Definately not these pampered spoilt German brats who are too pampered to do the hard work that the boomer generation did.

And the immigrants coming in will be muslim because they work hard as well. Again stormer cucks saying muslims are lazy on welfare etc yet they dont understand muslim culture. No muslim women will EVER marry an unemployed muslim man, it is the muslim culture. Of course there are women who will but the majority will not though.
Eventually all those young immigrant men will work even crappy jobs if they want to get their dicks wet and they will stay employed . The French and German European elites know this and thats why they love muslims. They dont mind a few riots and radical islamists once in a while as long as their economic engine is running smoothly and well oiled

Good points. Immigration is likely to increase for Germany. I've seen the population pyramids for European countries and they have this big bulge nearing retirement.

One interesting aspect for Germany is their fertility rate of 1.58, its not that bad. It shows they are figuring out how to increase the fertility rate.

Good point on the riots.

 

[Quarantined]

without immigration german economy would contract but the average ethnic german would be happier,
most immigrants coming are ambitious at least in the first generation but low iq.
Many of the muslims become way less religious than their parents

 

[ethniccel1]

Good point on the riots.

Some Sands and nig incels frustrated because of lack of pussy burning down their own neighnbourhoods is a minor issue in the bigger scheme of things pursuing world power status or even world domination.

 

[kretschmer]

whats the point of this thread? shitksins should never be in europe

 

[Dacel]

Just wait until women realize that with immigration, the tall, blonde and blue-eyed chad will disappear, death squads will get formed immediatly

Good

 

[ethniccel1]

whats the point of this thread? shitksins should never be in europe

Ah yes here we go right on schedule .Án unemployed stormcuck incel appears that has no children. The saviour warriors of Europe

 

[WomenDid9-11]

yep that sums it up.

European elites are a group who seek to be powerful, it is obvious by observing their projects and undertakings expanding the EU, involving themselves in conflicts etc etc.

Cant be a power bloc though with low population numbers. Stormfront cuck types frothing at the mouth talking about how they will deal with the immigrants when society crashes but they themselves are having no children or at most 1 or 2 max.Infact immigration will even increase. Just to remind you, Germanys most industrious workers the baby boomers are now entering retirement. These people are cucks who work hard long hours are blue pilled and swallow every nonsence the government and soyciety brainwash them with paying some of the highest taxes in the world. I bet you heard of the hard working industrious German stereotype? It is this generation I am describing, they really work hard and now , like right now in this point in time they are now going into retirement. So guess what, immigration will increase by a multitude compared to the previous waves of immigration. Look up the statistics, this age group make up the bulk of German society, who will pay for their pensions? Definately not these pampered spoilt German brats who are too pampered to do the hard work that the boomer generation did.

And the immigrants coming in will be muslim because they work hard as well. Again stormer cucks saying muslims are lazy on welfare etc yet they dont understand muslim culture. No muslim women will EVER marry an unemployed muslim man, it is the muslim culture. Of course there are women who will but the majority will not though.
Eventually all those young immigrant men will work even crappy jobs if they want to get their dicks wet and they will stay employed . The French and German European elites know this and thats why they love muslims. They dont mind a few riots and radical islamists once in a while as long as their economic engine is running smoothly and well oiled

Bullshit, MENA migrants are a proven economic burden in Denmark, Sweden, Norway and most other places throughout their entire life. I guarantee the same is true for Germany. Muslims are only imported because leftists view them as a permanent voting block and because letting their country get raped by Abdul and his 20 inbred welfare children is the left winger's ultimate form of a self-absorbed act of tolerance which will let them look even more enlightened and progressive.

If a country needs immigrants, Muslims (and niggers) are objectively the worst choices ever, and importing the unskilled ones is even more so, because they are uneducated and cannot compete in a skilled economy, and so fester on welfare in crime ridden ghettos.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Bullshit, MENA migrants are a proven economic burden in Denmark, Sweden, Norway and most other places throughout their entire life. I guarantee the same is true for Germany. Muslims are only imported because leftists view them as a permanent voting block and because letting their country get raped by Abdul and his 20 inbred welfare children is the left winger's ultimate form of a self-absorbed act of tolerance which will let them look even more enlightened and progressive.

If a country needs immigrants, Muslims (and niggers) are objectively the worst choices ever, and importing the unskilled ones is even more so, because they are uneducated and cannot compete in a skilled economy, and so fester on welfare in crime ridden ghettos.

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Thanks for the very good data and graph.

The state having to spend more money for immigrants, the state looks at as a bonus. Because more money the state has to spend is their revenues. Ya for normie natives there, their taxes have to go up, but the state is looking at that from the other side.. taxes to them are revenues.

For the police, prisons and courts.. they want more Muslims as long as Muslims are committing crimes. Because then their budgets and staffing goes up.

Same with the health system, or the education system. Its either schools get shut down for lack of children, or if they are full of Muslim kids then the teachers and administrators and contractors are still in business.

 

[Thaway]

The issue I have with this form of mass migration is that it doesn't really solve the problems why it's permitted. Without immigration Germany would be Japan, but the reason the Germans want a lot of immigrants is to re-vitalise their economy to have a new generation of tax payers to pay for the elderly.

But most low skilled immigrants often become a tax negative and not a tax positive, essentially being toilets. Toilets tend to pay less taxes than what they take out of the system, just like these immigrants. The only immigrants that are actually valuable are so rare that they number in the hundreds of thousands or perhaps a million, not enough to actually fill the gap.

So the only things that these low value immigrants do is raise the price of living and housing, lower the income of low skilled indigenous German workers by offering to do the same work for less and increasing the labour supply giving the Germans less capabilities to bargain, and they often collect welfare while many are chronically unemployed.

Immigration can work, but this type of immigration has proven itself time and time again that it doesn't work.

It was never supposed to work like that, those are simply the lies the media bombards people with day in day out. It's simply the continued destruction of Germany after ww2 following things like the kalergi and hooton plan. To really destroy a nation you have to do it from the inside.

 

[based_meme]

To really destroy a nation you have to do it from the inside.

 

[ethniccel1]

It was never supposed to work like that, those are simply the lies the media bombards people with day in day out. It's simply the continued destruction of Germany after ww2 following things like the kalergi and hooton plan. To really destroy a nation you have to do it from the inside.

How will Germany be destroyed from the inside? You Germany is not just land, the German people are what create the culture. If the people breed among themselves even if the country is full of immigrants it still has not destroyed the German culture.

 

[ethniccel1]

Thanks for the very good data and graph.

The state having to spend more money for immigrants, the state looks at as a bonus. Because more money the state has to spend is their revenues. Ya for normie natives there, their taxes have to go up, but the state is looking at that from the other side.. taxes to them are revenues.

For the police, prisons and courts.. they want more Muslims as long as Muslims are committing crimes. Because then their budgets and staffing goes up.

Same with the health system, or the education system. Its either schools get shut down for lack of children, or if they are full of Muslim kids then the teachers and administrators and contractors are still in business.

so you mean the government wants low iq immigration to keep the civil service expanding with teachers, jail staff, administrators, police , schools, contractors.

That way they can give foids jobs who otherwise could not compete in the private economy.

 

[WizardofSoda]

How will Germany be destroyed from the inside? You Germany is not just land, the German people are what create the culture. If the people breed among themselves even if the country is full of immigrants it still has not destroyed the German culture.

Thats a good point a truly powerful culture/people.. in the US we assimilate foreigners who come here.

 

[ethniccel1]

Thats a good point a truly powerful culture/people.. in the US we assimilate foreigners who come here.

Brocel there are just a little over 1million Currys in South Africa been there for generations already and surrounded by a sea of 10's of millions of black africans. But still they maintane their culture. Same goes for whites in South Africa just a few million and maintan their culture.

This was aimed at the "Kaligi Plan" and "Great replacement" theorists though. It may very wekll be true that some forces want to genocide whites but the argument that immigrants coming into the country will "destroy the culture" is simply not possible. Heck even Jews in pre industrial Europe kept their culture intact for centuries surrounded by a sea of hostile blue eyed aggressors.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Brocel there are just a little over 1million Currys in South Africa been there for generations already and surrounded by a sea of 10's of millions of black africans. But still they maintane their culture. Same goes for whites in South Africa just a few million and maintan their culture.

This was aimed at the "Kaligi Plan" and "Great replacement" theorists though. It may very wekll be true that some forces want to genocide whites but the argument that immigrants coming into the country will "destroy the culture" is simply not possible. Heck even Jews in pre industrial Europe kept their culture intact for centuries surrounded by a sea of hostile blue eyed aggressors.

Ah I see what you are saying, good point.

 

[WizardofSoda]

so you mean the government wants low iq immigration to keep the civil service expanding with teachers, jail staff, administrators, police , schools, contractors.

That way they can give foids jobs who otherwise could not compete in the private economy.

Its like New York City, without children you don't need schools. And when you don't need schools you don't need the huge number of people who work in good jobs in the school system and its contractors. However now that they brought in masses of immigrants, the schools are overflowing and the school system will expand.

Criminals are a bad thing right. Well not if you work in the police, prisons or court system, they are how you make a living to put food on your family's table. Its like wars are a bad thing.. well not if you work in the military industrial complex.

What about the home building industry. Well they need population growth or else we don't need new homes.

 

[der_komische]

id like low population density like in east jewmany

 

[ethniccel1]

Its like New York City, without children you don't need schools. And when you don't need schools you don't need the huge number of people who work in good jobs in the school system and its contractors. However now that they brought in masses of immigrants, the schools are overflowing and the school system will expand.

Criminals are a bad thing right. Well not if you work in the police, prisons or court system, they are how you make a living to put food on your family's table. Its like wars are a bad thing.. well not if you work in the military industrial complex.

What about the home building industry. Well they need population growth or else we don't need new homes.

ok good points. One does not realise just how many people are employed by the civil service its crazy come to think of it.

The part where you mention prisons makes me laugh a little though, they bring in low iq trash immigration who will be forced into crime because they cant compete for the high IQ AI, robotics, coding jobs of the future. The thing is as soon as they commit crime they are imprisoned many for life. But thats also a little cruel though the low IQ trash would probably be happier in the jungles of central America though

 

[WizardofSoda]

ok good points. One does not realise just how many people are employed by the civil service its crazy come to think of it.

The part where you mention prisons makes me laugh a little though, they bring in low iq trash immigration who will be forced into crime because they cant compete for the high IQ AI, robotics, coding jobs of the future. The thing is as soon as they commit crime they are imprisoned many for life. But thats also a little cruel though the low IQ trash would probably be happier in the jungles of central America though

Ya most good jobs nowadays in most places are in the government or contractors to the government. For government I mean the city government, state government and federal government. All their various departments employ huge numbers of people and are all growing.

Before mass immigration countries like Norway had largely shut down their prisons, and were downsizing police and probably the criminal justice system too. There just wasn't many white people committing crime in an age of the welfare state, where they didn't have to steal to survive.

 

[WizardofSoda]

id like low population density like in east jewmany

Ya when i was looking at Europe on google earth its amazing how East Germany is this rural farmland, except for this one mass metro area in the statist capital of Berlin.

 

[der_komische]

Ya when i was looking at Europe on google earth its amazing how East Germany is this rural farmland, except for this one mass metro area in the statist capital of Berlin.

satanist capital*

 

[WizardofSoda]

satanist capital*

Why does East Germany always support whatever tyrannical statist ideology there is.. because their income and power comes from the state.

 

[Incel_Doomer]

What kind of mentally retarded clown thinks replacement migration is for economic reasons?

 

[ethniccel1]

Germany population 1990: 79.3 million
Germany population 2020: 83.1 million

Germany births minus deaths 1990-2020: -4.0 million
Germany net immigration 1990-2020: +7.8 million

Germany population change 1990-2020: +3.8 million


Assuming immigrants are the same age and have the same birthrates as Germans which is a big assumption, Germany's population without mass immigration over the last 30 years would be 75.3 million. Instead of 83.1 million.

Better to have a smaller economy and lower standards of living in my opinion than millions of refugees. Whats the point of giving pensioners a high standard of living who refused to have children, the bare minimum is enough

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

blonde and blue-eyed

blond is overrated
shitskin spic moment detected

 

[AsiaCel]

The issue I have with this form of mass migration is that it doesn't really solve the problems why it's permitted. Without immigration Germany would be Japan, but the reason the Germans want a lot of immigrants is to re-vitalise their economy to have a new generation of tax payers to pay for the elderly.

Just engineer an actually deadly COVID to wipe out the elder. I'm sorry it's cruel but it's between survival of your people or being replaced.

 

[ethniccel1]

Just engineer an actually deadly COVID to wipe out the elder. I'm sorry it's cruel but it's between survival of your people or being replaced.

Those same elderly asking for high pensions are the same elderly that refused to have children or train immigrants to do the jobs 10-20 years when they were in the workforce. I agree with you kill them all off

 

[92 drowsiness?]

Those same elderly asking for high pensions are the same elderly that refused to have children or train immigrants to do the jobs 10-20 years when they were in the workforce. I agree with you kill them all off

you´re a nigger

 

[ethniccel1]

you´re a nigger

you are a white trash.

 

[Magistrattum]

blond is overrated
shitskin spic moment detected

Wtf do you want me to do