Blackpill "Genetics aren't everything" debunked with facts and scientific evidence [Completed]

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"Genetics aren't everything"

This study is aimed at redpillers, who suggest that just improving certain external factors would automatically result in ascension :feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman: This point misses the fact that nature and nurture play a fundamental part in this :feelsLSD: I know most of this...

incels.is

This study is aimed at redpillers and looksmaxxers, who suggest that just improving certain external factors would/could automatically result in ascension.

This point misses the fact that nature and nurture play a fundamental part in this.

1) Facial Symmetry
The face's symmetry points out the physical perfection of a person which is a main portrait of beauty. Physiognomists inferred that symmetrical faces are likely to be observed as harder sex mates, perhaps because their smooth lines reflect good health and high genetic quality. The presence of these specific genes in the embryonic stage results in the growth of facial structures that are not symmetrical.

Symmetry is often associated with genetic health and reproductive fitness, signaling that a potential mate has good genes. Research using facial symmetry assessments has demonstrated that both men and women rate symmetrical faces as more attractive compared to asymmetrical ones. This preference is thought to be an evolutionary adaptation to help select healthy partners. The point being that a symmetrical face makes you 50% more likely to find a sexual partner.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2329856/
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2) Skin Health and Complexion
Clear, healthy skin is associated with good genes and the ability to resist diseases. Studies show that people with good skin are perceived as more attractive, linking skin quality to overall health and reproductive success.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8231670/
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Flawless skin is one of the most universally desired features, and demand for improvements in skin quality is growing rapidly. Skin quality has been shown to substantially impact emotional health, quality of life, self-perception, and interactions with others. Although skin quality improvements are a common end point in studies of cosmeceuticals, they are rarely assessed in clinical studies of other aesthetic treatments and products. Descriptive terminology for skin quality parameters also varies considerably within the aesthetic field, relying on a range of redundant and occasionally contradictory descriptors. In short, skin quality has not been clearly defined.

In the appreciation of beauty, skin health and complexion are the most essential criteria. Heredity also affects the skin condition, the type of skin, the color, and the probability of skin diseases including acne, eczema.

Genes:

MC1R Gene: There are different forms of this gene which is due to which some people have lighter skin color while others are more susceptible to the UV rays.
Source: Link in the hair section, since this gene also affects hair.

FILAGGRIN Gene: This gene is expressed in skin cells and expressed proteins and has less impaired skin cells and Hence a deficiency of this gene could possibly cause atopic eczema and xerosis.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filaggrin


3) Hair

Scientific and genetic research indicates that women often find good hair attractive, as it can signal health, fitness, and good reproductive potential.
Source: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2004-22042-002
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Although facial features that are considered beautiful have been investigated across cultures using the framework of sexual selection theory, the effects of head hair on esthetic evaluations have rarely been examined from an evolutionary perspective. In the present study the effects of six hairstyles (short, medium-length, long, disheveled, knot [hair bun], unkempt) on female facial attractiveness were examined in four dimensions (femininity, youth, health, sexiness) relative to faces without visible head hair ("basic face"). Three evolutionary hypotheses were tested (covering hypothesis, healthy mate theory, and good genes model); only the good genes model was supported by our data. According to this theory, individuals who can afford the high costs of long hair are those who have good phenotypic and genetic quality. In accordance with this hypothesis, we found that only long and medium-length hair had a significant positive effect on ratings of women's attractiveness; the other hairstyles did not influence the evaluation of their physical beauty. Furthermore, these two hairstyles caused a much larger change in the dimension of health than in the rest of the dimensions. Finally, male raters considered the longer-haired female subjects' health status better, especially if the subjects were less attractive women. The possible relationships between facial attractiveness and hair are discussed, and alternative explanations are presented. (PsycInfo Database Record)

The texture, color, and thickness of hair are mainly determined by genetics. It is specific parts of the genome that are responsible for these traits:
MC1R Gene: Similarly, an interplay of hair color is caused by alleles of this gene with the red one resulting in the reddest hair color.

Source: https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mc1r/

Genes:

EDAR Gene: The gene regulation of this sequence of genes is expressed as the hair follicle and it could lead to hair growth direction problems hence hair straight, wavy, or curly.
Source: https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/edar/

4) Body Shape and Size
Body composition is the product of a variety of genetic factors operating in concert.

Scientific and genetic research supports that women are generally more attracted to men with a V-shaped body and a wider frame. This preference can be explained by evolutionary, biological, and psychological factors.

Genetic and Biological Factors​

• V-shaped anthroposomorphism is thought to be a form that characterized by broad shoulders and a narrow waist is a common sign of physical strength and fitness. The body type of this sort may show the good health and genetic fitness of the individual which, in turn, are traits that are advantageous for survival and reproduction. This body shape can signal good health and genetic fitness, traits that are advantageous for survival and reproduction.
  
  
• V-shaped anthroposomorphism, characterized by broad shoulders and a narrow waist, is closely related to physical strength and fitness. This body shape can signal good health and genetic fitness, traits that are advantageous for survival and reproduction.
  
  
• The two features, broad shoulders and a narrow waist, indicate that the testicular gland is working fine and there is an increase in testosterone level, which is known for its connection with good health and the fact that it helps the body to be strong and efficient in fighting the diseases as well as the high fertility of the subjects.
  
  
• Testosterone and Muscle Development:As regulating the growth of muscles and fats a relation between testososterone and the development of a V-shaped body is highly implicated. Such a workout in higher testosterone levels leads to more muscle mass in the upper body and less fat around the waist. The distribution of muscle and fat in the body is the outcome of the work of the genes that are influencing body shape as well as the development of broad shoulders and a narrow waist.
  
  
• V-shaped anthroposomorphism, has a significant influence on the muscle development in the human body through the hormone testosterone which is responsible for the muscle growth and fat distribution. Though the higher levels of testosterone lead to an increase in the muscle mass of the upper body, it is the waist area that sees a significant decrease in the percentage of body fat.
  
  
• Genetic factors control how muscle and fat are distributed in the body, which in turn shapes the overall body and the formation of broad shoulders and a slim waist.

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Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6563790/

Genes:

FTO Gene: Connected with BMI and overweight.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2906751/

LEP and LEPR Genes: Responsible for the control of body fat and energy balance.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/3953

5) Eye Color and Shape
The body shape and color of the eye are the result of the actions of many genes, among which are OCA2 and HERC2. The size and shape of the eye, also the matters affecting the public's view of attractiveness, are purely determined by genetics.

Scientific research into eye color and attractiveness suggests that women, like men, may be influenced by eye color in their perceptions of attractiveness. However, the degree to which eye color influences attractiveness can be complex and influenced by genetic and cultural factors.

Source: https://www.researchgate.net/public...eyed_men_prefer_women_with_the_same_eye_color
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The human eye color blue reflects a simple, predictable, and reliable genetic mechanism of inheritance. Blue-eyed individuals represent a unique condition, as in their case there is always direct concordance between the genotype and phenotype. On the other hand, heterozygous brown-eyed individuals carry an allele that is not concordant with the observed eye color. Hence, eye color can provide a highly visible and salient cue to the child’s heredity. If men choose women with characteristics that promote the assurance of paternity, then blue-eyed men should prefer and feel more attracted towards women with blue eyes. To test these predictions, close-up photos of young women and adult men with either blue or brown eyes were rated for their attractiveness by young women and men observers with either blue or brown eyes (N=88). The eye color in the photographs of each model was manipulated so that a same face would be shown with either the natural eye color (e.g., blue) or with the other color (e.g., brown). Both blue-eyed and brown-eyed female participants showed no difference in their attractiveness ratings for male models of either eye color. Similarly, brown-eyed men showed no preference for either blue-eyed or brown-eyed female models. However, blue-eyed men rated as more attractive the blue-eyed women than the brown-eyed ones. We interpret the latter preference in terms of specific mate selective choice of blue-eyed men, reflecting strategies for reducing paternity uncertainty. In a second study, a group of young adults (N=443) of both sexes and different eye colors (blue, brown, and green) were asked to report the eye and hair color of their romantic partners. Their responses indicated the presence of assortative mating by eye color as well as, to a less degree, for hair color. Most importantly, blue-eyed male respondents were the group with the largest proportion of partners of same eye color. These findings 1) indicate that blue-eyed men do prefer women with the same eye color and 2) specifically suggest the presence of a male adaptation for the detection of extra-pair paternity based on eye color, as a phenotypically based assurance of paternity (i.e., when the father’s and offspring’s phenotypes match) as well as a defense against cuckoldry (i.e., when the phenotypes do not match).

6) Teeth and Smile
Variation in teeth color (which is the most important part of a smile) that is due to the presence of dental enamel is mediated by genes.

Scientific and genetic research supports the idea that women, like men are generally more attracted to white teeth and good smiles, largely due to the associations these features have with health, youth, and overall genetic fitness.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3409146/
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Ornament displays seen in animals convey information about genetic quality, developmental history and current disease state to both prospective sexual partners and potential rivals. In this context, showing of teeth through smiles etc is a characteristic feature of human social interaction. Tooth development is influenced by genetic and environmental factors. Adult teeth record environmental and traumatic events, as well as the effects of disease and ageing. Teeth are therefore a rich source of information about individuals and their histories. This study examined the effects of digital manipulations of tooth colour and spacing. Results showed that deviation away from normal spacing and/or the presence of yellowed colouration had negative effects on ratings of attractiveness and that these effects were markedly stronger in female models. Whitening had no effect beyond that produced by natural colouration. This indicates that these colour induced alterations in ratings of attractiveness are mediated by increased/decreased yellowing rather than whitening per se. Teeth become yellower and darker with age. Therefore it is suggested that whilst the teeth of both sexes act as human ornament displays, the female display is more complex because it additionally signals residual reproductive value.

Genes:

The genes such as MSX1 and PAX9, which are the key players in the communication process of the interaction between a tooth germ and the jaw, are the determinants of the arrangement and orientation of the teeth.
Source: https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(20)57596-0/fulltext

7) Voice and Speech Patterns

Deep voices are typically associated with higher levels of testosterone. Testosterone influences vocal cord length and thickness, resulting in a deeper pitch. Higher testosterone levels are linked to traits such as physical strength and sexual maturity, which can be attractive from an evolutionary perspective.

Genetic Influences on Voice Pitch:

Even though the voice of the individual and speech patterns are not directly a physical trait, they can affect the attraction. Genetic factors play a considerable role in the development of the vocal cords and larynx, thus they affect the voice pitch and tone.

Voice pitch is influenced by genetics, with variations in genes affecting vocal cord length and structure. These genetic factors contribute to the natural variation in voice pitch among individuals.

Studies have indicated that genetic predispositions can influence voice characteristics, making some voices naturally deeper and potentially more attractive to female listeners.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7719159/
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Sexual selection appears to have shaped the acoustic signals of diverse species, including humans. Deep, resonant vocalizations in particular may function in attracting mates and/or intimidating same-sex competitors. Evidence for these adaptive functions in human males derives predominantly from perception studies in which vocal acoustic parameters were manipulated using specialist software. This approach affords tight experimental control but provides little ecological validity, especially when the target acoustic parameters vary naturally with other parameters. Furthermore, such experimental studies provide no information about what acoustic variables indicate about the speaker—that is, why attention to vocal cues may be favored in intrasexual and intersexual contexts. Using voice recordings with high ecological validity from 160 male speakers and biomarkers of condition, including baseline cortisol and testosterone levels, body morphology and strength, we tested a series of pre-registered hypotheses relating to both perceptions and underlying condition of the speaker. We found negative curvilinear and negative linear relationships between male fundamental frequency (fo) and female perceptions of attractiveness and male perceptions of dominance. In addition, cortisol and testosterone negatively interacted in predicting fo, and strength and measures of body size negatively predicted formant frequencies (Pf). Meta-analyses of the present results and those from two previous samples confirmed that fonegatively predicted testosterone only among men with lower cortisol levels. This research offers empirical evidence of possible evolutionary functions for attention to men’s vocal characteristics in contexts of sexual selection.

Genes:

Androgen Receptor Gene (AR)
The AR gene encodes a receptor that binds to androgens like testosterone. Testosterone influences the development and maintenance of male secondary sexual characteristics, including voice depth. It affects the growth and thickening of vocal cords, which is crucial for determining voice pitch.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/367

Conclusion:
Genetics are 99.99%
There are simply too many things affected by DNA to say that changing what you can is going to achieve anything significant.

Efforts to alter or enhance appearance through lifestyle choices, cosmetic procedures, lose weight, or skincare routines can certainly have an impact, but they often work within the constraints set by our genetic makeup. The limits imposed by genetics mean that while improvements can be made, they may not lead to drastic changes in overall attractiveness at all.

 

[Efiliste]

@Fat Link pin this and move it to must read section

 

[Wizardmaxxer]

Only retardes would believe genetics doesn't matter
(mostly of them bluepill hivemind normies following jewciety rules)

 

[Failed Pullout]

DNRcels GTFO
Before any of you point out that i posted this twice, i did, it was an accident and the thread was incomplete.

Mods, I ask you to please delete the previous thread to avoid any confusions.

"Genetics aren't everything"

This study is aimed at redpillers, who suggest that just improving certain external factors would automatically result in ascension :feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman: This point misses the fact that nature and nurture play a fundamental part in this :feelsLSD: I know most of this...

incels.is

This study is aimed at redpillers and looksmaxxers, who suggest that just improving certain external factors would/could automatically result in ascension.

This point misses the fact that nature and nurture play a fundamental part in this.

1) Facial Symmetry
The face's symmetry points out the physical perfection of a person which is a main portrait of beauty. Physiognomists inferred that symmetrical faces are likely to be observed as harder sex mates, perhaps because their smooth lines reflect good health and high genetic quality. The presence of these specific genes in the embryonic stage results in the growth of facial structures that are not symmetrical.

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Symmetry is often associated with genetic health and reproductive fitness, signaling that a potential mate has good genes. Research using facial symmetry assessments has demonstrated that both men and women rate symmetrical faces as more attractive compared to asymmetrical ones. This preference is thought to be an evolutionary adaptation to help select healthy partners. The point being that a symmetrical face makes you 50% more likely to find a sexual partner.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2329856/
(Full explanation is to large to be inserted properly)

2) Skin Health and Complexion
Clear, healthy skin is associated with good genes and the ability to resist diseases. Studies show that people with good skin are perceived as more attractive, linking skin quality to overall health and reproductive success.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8231670/
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In the appreciation of beauty, skin health and complexion are the most essential criteria. Heredity also affects the skin condition, the type of skin, the color, and the probability of skin diseases including acne, eczema.

Genes:

MC1R Gene: There are different forms of this gene which is due to which some people have lighter skin color while others are more susceptible to the UV rays.
Source: Link in the hair section, since this gene also affects hair.

FILAGGRIN Gene: This gene is expressed in skin cells and expressed proteins and has less impaired skin cells and Hence a deficiency of this gene could possibly cause atopic eczema and xerosis.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filaggrin


3) Hair

Scientific and genetic research indicates that women often find good hair attractive, as it can signal health, fitness, and good reproductive potential.
Source: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2004-22042-002
ᛨ


The texture, color, and thickness of hair are mainly determined by genetics. It is specific parts of the genome that are responsible for these traits:
MC1R Gene: Similarly, an interplay of hair color is caused by alleles of this gene with the red one resulting in the reddest hair color.

Source: https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mc1r/

Genes:

EDAR Gene: The gene regulation of this sequence of genes is expressed as the hair follicle and it could lead to hair growth direction problems hence hair straight, wavy, or curly.
Source: https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/edar/

4) Body Shape and Size
Body composition is the product of a variety of genetic factors operating in concert.

Scientific and genetic research supports that women are generally more attracted to men with a V-shaped body and a wider frame. This preference can be explained by evolutionary, biological, and psychological factors.

Genetic and Biological Factors​

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Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6563790/

Genes:

FTO Gene: Connected with BMI and overweight.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2906751/

LEP and LEPR Genes: Responsible for the control of body fat and energy balance.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/3953

5) Eye Color and Shape
The body shape and color of the eye are the result of the actions of many genes, among which are OCA2 and HERC2. The size and shape of the eye, also the matters affecting the public's view of attractiveness, are purely determined by genetics.

Scientific research into eye color and attractiveness suggests that women, like men, may be influenced by eye color in their perceptions of attractiveness. However, the degree to which eye color influences attractiveness can be complex and influenced by genetic and cultural factors.

Source: https://www.researchgate.net/public...eyed_men_prefer_women_with_the_same_eye_color
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6) Teeth and Smile
Variation in teeth color (which is the most important part of a smile) that is due to the presence of dental enamel is mediated by genes.

Scientific and genetic research supports the idea that women, like men are generally more attracted to white teeth and good smiles, largely due to the associations these features have with health, youth, and overall genetic fitness.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3409146/
ᛨ


Genes:

The genes such as MSX1 and PAX9, which are the key players in the communication process of the interaction between a tooth germ and the jaw, are the determinants of the arrangement and orientation of the teeth.
Source: https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(20)57596-0/fulltext

7) Voice and Speech Patterns

Deep voices are typically associated with higher levels of testosterone. Testosterone influences vocal cord length and thickness, resulting in a deeper pitch. Higher testosterone levels are linked to traits such as physical strength and sexual maturity, which can be attractive from an evolutionary perspective.

Genetic Influences on Voice Pitch:

Even though the voice of the individual and speech patterns are not directly a physical trait, they can affect the attraction. Genetic factors play a considerable role in the development of the vocal cords and larynx, thus they affect the voice pitch and tone.

Voice pitch is influenced by genetics, with variations in genes affecting vocal cord length and structure. These genetic factors contribute to the natural variation in voice pitch among individuals.

Studies have indicated that genetic predispositions can influence voice characteristics, making some voices naturally deeper and potentially more attractive to female listeners.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7719159/
ᛨ


Genes:

Androgen Receptor Gene (AR)
The AR gene encodes a receptor that binds to androgens like testosterone. Testosterone influences the development and maintenance of male secondary sexual characteristics, including voice depth. It affects the growth and thickening of vocal cords, which is crucial for determining voice pitch.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/367

Conclusion:
Genetics are 99.99%
There are simply too many things affected by DNA to say that changing what you can is going to achieve anything significant.

Efforts to alter or enhance appearance through lifestyle choices, cosmetic procedures, lose weight, or skincare routines can certainly have an impact, but they often work within the constraints set by our genetic makeup. The limits imposed by genetics mean that while improvements can be made, they may not lead to drastic changes in overall attractiveness at all.

TLDR You're genetics are not just the cards you have been dealt you are simultaneously those cards and the ability to play them