Blackpill Free facial surgery is not the solution to inceldom

[kill me]

Assuming most incels are 1-3/10 and most people can get a maximum of 3 points from facial surgery (if you do too many surgeries you will fuck up your face, something about facial harmony and shit), that means people in this forum will become 6/10 normies at best and the 6/10 normies will become 8/10 chadlites.
This just increases the expected minimum PSL rating you need to get a foid and you will still be incel. just a normie looking incel instead of a goblin looking one.

Now if free surgery was only offered to incels, That would still not fully solve the problem. Sure some might be able to score a landwhale but if all incels turned into normies through surgery, There will be a greater number of normies competing for a foid (even landwhales) and again raises the expected minimum PSL rating. Only this time it will be raised slightly less.

Bottom line is: if you were born incel, you will always be incel. Ascension is literally impossible for genetic garbage like us.

 

[Deleted member 24081]

Then that leaves only one remaining option...

 

[Joker]

Bottom line is: if you were born incel, you will always be incel. Ascension is literally impossible for genetic garbage like us.

brutal. punishingly brutal

 

[metabuxx]

Then I guess that leaves me with 2 options :
1. Ropemaxx
2. LDAR

 

[Deleted member 24081]

Then I guess that leaves me with 2 options :
1. Ropemaxx
2. LDAR

ThERe is another option, you know

 

[NEETard]

Im getting surgery and most of the cost is covered by insurance so we will see if your theory checks out

 

[Personalityinkwell]

@Sparrow's Song thoughts?

8/10 chadlites.

chadlite is 7, an 8 is a Chad

 

[kill me]

Im getting surgery and most of the cost is covered by insurance so we will see if your theory checks out

I hope it works out for you brother.

 

[Deleted member 23820]

1. Ropemaxx
2. LDAR

 

[Genetic Dead End]

Then that leaves only one remaining option...

Endoplasmic Reticulum maxx

 

[metabuxx]

ThERe is another option, you know

 

[Sparrow's Song]

@Sparrow's Song thoughts?


chadlite is 7, an 8 is a Chad

JFL at that join date, name, and post count.

The idea that free plastic surgery will somehow make all the chadlites into chads and chads into giga chads is retarded. First off, the best method for free facial surgery would be to only give it to people with facial issues first. Asymmetry, disfigurement, recessed chin, no cheekbones, hair loss ect... The people getting it would be truecels. The point of free facial surgery is not to "ascend" and trick a foid into fucking you, it's just to make life livable for hideous subhumans so they have reason not to kill themselves. The chads that already dominate the world of sex and reproduction couldn't really improve that much with surgery, a normie can raise his PSL with surgery more than a chad can. Free facial surgery will just eliminate ad many death sentences as possible. When more men meet the bare minimum facial requirements for femoids, there will be more monogamy and dating won't be as suicide inducing for incels and normies. The only men who will not benefit are giga chads who cannot be improved much more and turbo truecels who never stood a chance anyway. Nothing is a perfect solution, but free facial surgery would massively help incels. Again, it's about making life more livable, not becoming chad.

I'm suspicious of OP's usage of the term "facial" surgery because most people call it plastic surgery. It's like this thread was made for me or something.

 

[Allblueeeee]

Endoplasmic Reticulum maxx

Elaborate bro

 

[beta_max]

genetically engineered chad vessels for brain transplant when?

 

[Idotms]

 

[kill me]

JFL at that join date, name, and post count.

The idea that free plastic surgery will somehow make all the chadlites into chads and chads into giga chads is retarded. First off, the best method for free facial surgery would be to only give it to people with facial issues first. Asymmetry, disfigurement, recessed chin, no cheekbones, hair loss ect... The people getting it would be truecels. The point of free facial surgery is not to "ascend" and trick a foid into fucking you, it's just to make life livable for hideous subhumans so they have reason not to kill themselves. The chads that already dominate the world of sex and reproduction couldn't really improve that much with surgery, a normie can raise his PSL with surgery more than a chad can. Free facial surgery will just eliminate ad many death sentences as possible. When more men meet the bare minimum facial requirements for femoids, there will be more monogamy and dating won't be as suicide inducing for incels and normies. The only men who will not benefit are giga chads who cannot be improved much more and turbo truecels who never stood a chance anyway. Nothing is a perfect solution, but free facial surgery would massively help incels. Again, it's about making life more livable, not becoming chad.

I'm suspicious of OP's usage of the term "facial" surgery because most people call it plastic surgery. It's like this thread was made for me or something.

I never said surgery can turn every chad into gigachad, Just that it will increase the number of total chadlites and normies which most definitely raises the minimum facial requirements for dating foids.
I agree that it makes life better for the average incel but with the side effects this method has it won't completely fix inceldom. I believe there to be better solutions to our problems but like you said, Nothing is a perfect solution.
Nothing against you personally brother, English is not my first language and the term we call it in my mother tongue roughly translates to "face surgery" so that's why I used the word "facial".

 

[Sparrow's Song]

I never said surgery can turn every chad into gigachad, Just that it will increase the number of total chadlites and normies which most definitely raises the minimum facial requirements for dating foids.
I agree that it makes life better for the average incel but with the side effects this method has it won't completely fix inceldom. I believe there to be better solutions to our problems but like you said, Nothing is a perfect solution.
Nothing against you personally brother, English is not my first language and the term we call it in my mother tongue roughly translates to "face surgery" so that's why I used the word "facial".

The main reason we are incels is because we are markedly genetically inferior. It's less about "not being chad" and more about not being human. A lot of incel traits are signs of genetic inferiority, disease, injury, poor upbringing, poor bone development, chemical poisoning, and poor diet. High tier normies and low tier chads are what the average male is actually supposed to look like, normies and incels are literally sickly stock of genetic trash that were poisoned in the womb. Facial surgery literally makes subhumans look human, it's not a vanity thing, we are biologically and physically deformed.

Free facial surgery is not the solution to inceldom, but it is the first step and something that is possible with today's technology. It's more of an anti suicide measure than an inceldom solving measure. Although taking femoid's rights away and enforcing monogamy and arranged marriage would be great, with smartphones and chad exposure... the foids can will never be attracted to non chads again. At this point in history, the family unit is dead and no femoid is attracted to a non chad. I believe the only solution is artificial wombs and female companion robots. The only way forward is to be sexually and reproductively independent of femasites. We literally need to provide alternatives to sex and reproduction to femoids to all men who rather marry technology than get cucked by animals.

https://incels.is/threads/we-cannot...faces-anyway-we-need-a-neo-patriarchy.165071/

 

[Deleted member 14577]

foid standards would just increase if everyone got a boost in looks.

 

[WageyInACagey]

foid standards would just increase if everyone got a boost in looks.

tbh

 

[kill me]

The main reason we are incels is because we are markedly genetically inferior. It's less about "not being chad" and more about not being human. A lot of incel traits are signs of genetic inferiority, disease, injury, poor upbringing, poor bone development, chemical poisoning, and poor diet. High tier normies and low tier chads are what the average male is actually supposed to look like, normies and incels are literally sickly stock of genetic trash that were poisoned in the womb. Facial surgery literally makes subhumans look human, it's not a vanity thing, we are biologically and physically deformed.

Free facial surgery is not the solution to inceldom, but it is the first step and something that is possible with today's technology. It's more of an anti suicide measure than an inceldom solving measure. Although taking femoid's rights away and enforcing monogamy and arranged marriage would be great, with smartphones and chad exposure... the foids can will never be attracted to non chads again. At this point in history, the family unit is dead and no femoid is attracted to a non chad. I believe the only solution is artificial wombs and female companion robots. The only way forward is to be sexually and reproductively independent of femasites. We literally need to provide alternatives to sex and reproduction to femoids to all men who rather marry technology than get cucked by animals.

https://incels.is/threads/we-cannot...faces-anyway-we-need-a-neo-patriarchy.165071/

I understand that as incels we are not truly "human" and with surgery we can become one, but doesn't the average human (hell with today's standards even the high tier normies) struggle to get a looksmatched foid? and what would happen if you increased those standards even more? Cause that's what will happen if all incels got free surgery. If the only foids who show interest in you after surgery are landwhales who would spit on your corpse before you had surgery, Then your situation didn't really improve regarding to foids. And like you said, Some of us won't be enough for a landwhale even after surgery.

It will definitely help those with very low self-esteem. At the very least, You won't be chastised by society and made fun of for being ugly. you will just be invisible amongst the overwhelming crowd of normies (which may or may not be a good thing depending on your views). So yea, Free facial surgery is a solution for some problems your average incel is most likely dealing with but not a solution to actual inceldom. You have to get laid to not be incel anymore and surgery may or may not make that a possibility.

Robo foids... I don't really know until I see one. I'm interested in robots but so far we haven't really achieved anything close to a female companion robot that looks like and feels like a real human and most of the robots out there right now are extremely expensive and not even close to the real thing.

Your thread is interesting but kinda gay. I will have to think about it a bit more.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

I understand that as incels we are not truly "human" and with surgery we can become one, but doesn't the average human (hell with today's standards even the high tier normies) struggle to get a looksmatched foid? and what would happen if you increased those standards even more? Cause that's what will happen if all incels got free surgery. If the only foids who show interest in you after surgery are landwhales who would spit on your corpse before you had surgery, Then your situation didn't really improve regarding to foids. And like you said, Some of us won't be enough for a landwhale even after surgery.

It will definitely help those with very low self-esteem. At the very least, You won't be chastised by society and made fun of for being ugly. you will just be invisible amongst the overwhelming crowd of normies (which may or may not be a good thing depending on your views). So yea, Free facial surgery is a solution for some problems your average incel is most likely dealing with but not a solution to actual inceldom. You have to get laid to not be incel anymore and surgery may or may not make that a possibility.

Robo foids... I don't really know until I see one. I'm interested in robots but so far we haven't really achieved anything close to a female companion robot that looks like and feels like a real human and most of the robots out there right now are extremely expensive and not even close to the real thing.

Your thread is interesting but kinda gay. I will have to think about it a bit more.

It's not gay, it's a DNA transaction. The bros will be fucking waifubots. It's literally the only way to reproduce and start a family without getting cucked if you're not chad.

 

[Norton]

No.
I disagree.
Perhaps not all can "become Chad", but it's definitely possible for most to drastically improve looks to the point where it's not repulsive on first sight anymore, and that on itself is already a huge boost to quality of life.

Surgery for sub-5 is an ethical thing to do in a society that values "equality in chances to succeed in life".
Especially in societies that value participation in the society itself (social events, political participation, NTness in general).
Leaving someone in a substandard condition (that can't be helped with "soft" means such as showers) in such a society, with no measures taken to help them is cruel and immoral.
Definitely if someone asks me what I think about surgery, I WILL advocate for sugery for sub-5 in all cases.