Blackpill Frame is more important than height and penis size

[BlackPill Scholar]

Broad shoulders makes up 80% of a male's attractiveness than big phallus and height

"Overall, broad shoulders as compared to the hips were the most important factor in attractiveness ratings, accounting for 79.6 percent of the variation in these rankings, the study found. Penis size and height accounted for 6.1 percent and 5.1 percent, respectively." "While size may matter...

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Overall, broad shoulders as compared to the hips were the most important factor in attractiveness ratings, accounting for 79.6 percent of the variation in these rankings, the study found. Penis size and height accounted for 6.1 percent and 5.1 percent, respectively.

I often get backlash for threads like these, because they don't fit the preconceived notions of most of the viewpoints people hold on here. Now let me be clear, I am not understating the importance of height or penis size. You have to remember women look for flaws, being short is a death sentence, having a small dick is a death sentence, having a bad frame is a death sentence. Also, frame is largely genetic and cannot be fixed by 'going to the gym' as evidenced by the pictures below:

If you have a terrible v-taper, you might as well kill yourself if you can't afford to cough up the 100k for clavicle lengthening surgery and steroids. You will forever be looked upon by every other human with a face of pure disgust.

 

[Napoleon de Nascar]

And my frame not manly at all

 

[Monk of Failure]

Study has shown good frame=more orgasm.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Is this considered shitty?

100k for clavicle lengthening surgery

links?

 

[randomguy1235]

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Is this considered shitty?

Yes.


Great thread OP. Sucks that the vast majority of humans don't understand Frame (your body's skeletal size and width) and conflate it with muscles. Muscles have nothing to do with frame

 

[GeneticFilth]

Frame=height unless the person has a disorder like marfans.

Also being fat can give the illusion that you have a bigger frame than you actually do, but it's basically just height that determines frame.

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

links?

Dr Barry Epply does this procedure:

Clavicle Lengthening By Osteotomy and Bone Grafting For Shoulder Width Augmentation - Explore Plastic Surgery

Shoulder width increases or widening can be done by clavicle lengthening by osteotomy and bone grafting with plate fixation.

exploreplasticsurgery.com

That article dosen't mention the price, I referenced that from someone on another forum who said it would cost around that. There's a video of him doing a clavicular shortening procedure on a woman, and she later said that it cost her over 30k usd. Although due to the nature of the procedure, a lengthening would be far more invasive and expensive.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Dr Barry Epply does this procedure:

Clavicle Lengthening By Osteotomy and Bone Grafting For Shoulder Width Augmentation - Explore Plastic Surgery

Shoulder width increases or widening can be done by clavicle lengthening by osteotomy and bone grafting with plate fixation.

exploreplasticsurgery.com

That article dosen't mention the price, I referenced that from someone on another forum who said it would cost around that. There's a video of him doing a clavicular shortening procedure on a woman, and she later said that it cost her over 30k usd. Although due to the nature of the procedure, a lengthening would be far more invasive and expensive.

way too much. I think I'll save the money for face surgery then fraud my frame.

 

[NEETard]

Height and face

 

[Lonesh]

As someone who is ugly, short and has a small dick, it's irrelevant which is more important to me.

Having all 3 is a death sentence, because foids expect me to get taller and grow a bigger dick somehow, as well as better my jawline.

 

[GeneticFilth]

(((blackpill))) scholar.
If you think a buff manlet with wide frame has it easier than a lanklet then you are not blackpilled. Wide-framed buff manlets are more of a laughing stock than anything else.

There's no such thing as a manlet with a wide frame. This is what all manlets look like when they're low body fat

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

just wear a coat theory

 

[Damo the incel]

And my frame not manly at all

Why is your frame not manly

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

(((blackpill))) scholar.
If you think a buff manlet with wide frame has it easier than a lanklet then you are not blackpilled. Wide-framed buff manlets are more of a laughing stock than anything else.

Height and face

As someone who is ugly, short and has a small dick, it's irrelevant which is more important to me.

Having all 3 is a death sentence, because foids expect me to get taller and grow a bigger dick somehow, as well as better my jawline.

Do you people even read the post?

Spoiler: Literal quote from the post

Now let me be clear, I am not understating the importance of height or penis size. You have to remember women look for flaws, being short is a death sentence, having a small dick is a death sentence, having a bad frame is a death sentence.

Also, trying to argue with actual scientific data from a study which didn't utilise self-reporting.

 

[HappilySingle]

way too much. I think I'll save the money for face surgery then fraud my frame.

How?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

How?

On tinder: photoshop
In real life: shoulderpads

https://looksmax.org/threads/i-test...be-really-worth-it-check-it-out-photos.34693/

 

[NEETard]

Do you people even read the post?

Spoiler: Literal quote from the post

Now let me be clear, I am not understating the importance of height or penis size. You have to remember women look for flaws, being short is a death sentence, having a small dick is a death sentence, having a bad frame is a death sentence.

Also, trying to argue with actual scientific data from a study which didn't utilise self-reporting.

Blackpill] Frame is more important than height and penis size

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

Frame=height unless the person has a disorder like marfans.

Also being fat can give the illusion that you have a bigger frame than you actually do, but it's basically just height that determines frame.

Cherry picking. I've also seen guys over 6 feet with 16 inch bideltoids. Sure height and frame are correlated, that makes perfect sense. But that dosen't mean that all tall people have good frames and all short people have bad ones.

 

[HappilySingle]

In real life: shoulderpads

Won't help ascending anyways so what's the point.

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

Blackpill] Frame is more important than height and penis size

Overall it is more important. But if you have any trait which is undesirable, it's over.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Won't help ascending anyways so what's the point.

what do you mean?

 

[HappilySingle]

what do you mean?

You have to be naked to ascend.

 

[NEETard]

Overall it is more important. But if you have any trait which is undesirable, it's over.

If you are undesirable, you are undesirable ???

 

[Sparrow's Song]

This is exactly why hardly any foids have Tinder profiles that say "must be at least X'X" tall" and "must have at least X" dick", while so many have profiles that say "must have X" shoulder width"...

 

[Personalityinkwell]

You have to be naked to ascend.

what's your point?

This is exactly why hardly any foids have Tinder profiles that say "must be at least X'X" tall" and "must have at least X" dick", while so many have profiles that say "must have X" shoulder width"...

really?

 

[Deleted member 17984]

BRING BACK EPAULETTES

make shoulder frauding fashionable again

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

If you are undesirable, you are undesirable ???

Manlets are fucked, framelets are fucked. But I think most women would pick a guy with average height and broad shoulders and a good v-taper. Than a 6'2" guy with the frame of the first picture I put in the post.

 

[HappilySingle]

what's your point?


really?

Shoulder pads won't help you ascend since at best it will get you with a foid willing to have sex only for her to run out in horror when she sees your fraud.

 

[NEETard]

Manlets are fucked, framelets are fucked. But I think most women would pick a guy with average height and broad shoulders and a good v-taper. Than a 6'2" guy with the frame of the first picture I put in the post.

You take the sub 8/10, sub 6 feet rules too literally

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

This is exactly why hardly any foids have Tinder profiles that say "must be at least X'X" tall" and "must have at least X" dick", while so many have profiles that say "must have X" shoulder width"...

Placing more value on anecdotal evidence than scientific studies <

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Shoulder pads won't help you ascend since at best it will get you with a foid willing to have sex only for her to run out in horror when she sees your fraud.

Turn the lights off duh. Plus plenty of people fraud and get away with it.

You're telling me this guy is "disgusting" and if a foid has already kissed a guy and entered the bedroom with him she'll flee? No. Unless she actually sees the pads, she is unlikely to tell you frauded, just say your clothes were a tad thick or something.

 

[GeneticFilth]

Cherry picking. I've also seen guys over 6 feet with 16 inch bideltoids. Sure height and frame are correlated, that makes perfect sense. But that dosen't mean that all tall people have good frames and all short people have bad ones.

Cope. Short people have bad frames 100 percent. Those tall guys you see are either a extremely low body fat or have some kind of disorder that makes you tall like marfans or klinefelters.

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

Frame and shoulder to hip ratio are different things though. I have a body in the shape of a V Which would be good if I had decent frame but my arms / wrists are skeletal and my rib cage is just generally undersized and feeble-looking.

 

[HappilySingle]

Turn the lights off duh. Plus plenty of people fraud and get away with it.

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You're telling me this guy is "disgusting" and if a foid has already kissed a guy and entered the bedroom with him she'll flee? No. Unless she actually sees the pads, she is unlikely to tell you frauded, just say your clothes were a tad thick or something.

JFL at thinking this dude is incel...

 

[Izayacel]

(((blackpill))) scholar.
If you think a buff manlet with wide frame has it easier than a lanklet then you are not blackpilled. Wide-framed buff manlets are more of a laughing stock than anything else.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

JFL at thinking this dude is incel...

So now I'm a fakecel?

EDIT: Never mind you're talking about dude in pic

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

Frame and shoulder to hip ratio are different things though. I have a body in the shape of a V Which would be good if I had decent frame but my arms / wrists are skeletal and my rib cage is just generally undersized and feeble-looking.

I would include hip and waist width in frame.

 

[HappilySingle]

So now I'm a fakecel?

If you have a 8/10 face like the dude in the photo ya... Face > everything

 

[KingOfRome]

Is this considered shitty?

I'd say he's about average. His obliques are overdeveloped and his delts are lagging somewhat, which gives the illusion of a shit v-taper, but each shoulder looks about 1.5 times the width of his head, which is average.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

BRING BACK EPAULETTES View attachment 197440


make shoulder frauding fashionable again

Placing more value on anecdotal evidence than scientific studies <

Tall chad with average frame beats chadlet with warrior frame. Shoulder width does not help you injure and kill other men from a melee distance that protects you from getting injured and killed. Every physical trait foids prefer in men is related to physical advantages in male on male violence. Real life is a battle royale game with no duos or squads.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

If you have a 8/10 face like the dude in the photo ya... Face > everything

That's not my face lol. I didn't realize you were talking about him.

Anyways my strategy applies more to guys in the 6-7 range to bump themselves up a point

 

[HappilySingle]

That's not my face lol. I didn't realize you were talking about him.

Anyways my strategy applies more to guys in the 6-7 range to bump themselves up a point

Even a 6 white with a shit frame and 5'10 will be able to at least get a noodle.

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

Look, at the end of the day. All of us are fucked. I think most people cling to the importance of one trait or another based on how they were treated in life. If you got brutally rejected and were a social outcast because you were short, you would say that is the biggest issue. Same with frame or any of the traits an incel can have. I don't think I should have posted this thread, maybe just another post about how important looks are for life quality or a celebrity life mogging us.

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

I would include hip and waist width in frame.

It is a factor, I think having a large frame without the good hip / shoulder ratio ‘V’ shape is like having a purely masculine face. Yes it is better to have a masculine face than a feminine face, but the Giga Chads have some soft feminine features which weirdly exemplifies them. That’s why Jared Leto is better looking than Brock Lesnar.

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

Tall chad with average frame beats chadlet with warrior frame. Shoulder width does not help you injure and kill other men from a melee distance that protects you from getting injured and killed. Every physical trait foids prefer in men is related to physical advantages in male on male violence. Real life is a battle royale game with no duos or squads.

'Average frame', of course but narrow shoulders are absolutely pathetic on a man. The width of a man's shoulders, chest, waist and pelvis are even more related to testosterone than height. That tells me something. The fact that women are so attracted to the male v-taper is also quite insightful.

Also frame is very important for hunting, narrow hips are needed for efficient bipedal locamotion (running) and long clavicles act as an anchor for throwing spears.

 

[based_meme]

I think most people cling to the importance of one trait or another based on how they were treated in life. If you got brutally rejected and were a social outcast because you were short, you would say that is the biggest issue. Same with frame or any of the traits an incel can have.

High IQ.

This is exactly it. Manlets think height is everything. Tallfags think face is everything. Framelets think size is everything. Etc.

 

[anon]

Whatever. Who gives a shit anymore? All Chads have a good frame and height which is why they're Chads. You know what matters? Being attractive. That's what matters. Forget about all these individual things like height, frame, nose, eyes. You need everything. Just be attractive, bro.

Would wider shoulders be enough to make you attractive? I don't think so. When you're below average or mediocre in every aspect (face, height, frame, skin, hair etc.) you don't have to worry about your shoulders, hips, neck width and whatever else aspies obsess over.

No single feature is enough when everything else is trash. Attractive men have many good features and only one failo at best which is why they're attractive. Chad doesn't just have large shoulders. He has a great face, good height, frame, hair, body and so on and chances are he has a decent sized dick too. Attractiveness = harmony of good features.

 

[OwlGod]

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Is this considered shitty?


links?

The guy is gymaxxed and still looks narrow, so yes, is really bad, this is what foids want

 

[Personalityinkwell]

The guy is gymaxxed and still looks narrow, so yes, is really bad, this is what foids want


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a criminal, of course

 

[OwlGod]

a criminal, of course

Yes

https://incels.is/threads/comments-of-foids-in-a-serial-killer-rapist-in-court-rr.150667/

Exist a video (of Richard) with more than 1.4k comments and 170k views, it's full of foids, maybe I post it later...