JFL Foid columnist asks "Why are modern men so obssesesd with self-improvement?"

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https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/why-are-modern-men-obsessed-with-self-improvement/\

The article is the usual tripe about toxic masculinity and #meetoo bullshit, but two paragraphs give the game away

Nowadays, male self-improvement is all the rage and men are now almost as boring about their appearance as women. Bodybuilding, not so long ago a peculiar pursuit, has become a very ordinary hobby and the market for protein products is enormous and swelling: it is currently estimated to be worth £238 million and set to reach £409 million by next year. Supermarket shelves now groan with ‘fuel bars’. According to the Office for National Statistics, protein supplements, once a niche fitness product, are now a staple in the nation’s shopping basket.

You think out of nowhere men realized that working out gives them a better chance with women? Lolno, they realized that standards are rising exponentially and 5 days a week in the gym MINIMUM is mandatory to have a chance with a landwhale in 2018.

Young men are drinking less alcohol, smoking less and, oddly, having less sex, perhaps because sex involves focusing on someone else. Traditional masculine pursuits are being abandoned in favour of more ethical ones. Pubs are closing down and gyms are opening up. ‘Fitness’ and ‘wellness’ are the buzzwords, and personal trainers are the new gurus, encouraging their diligent clients to be in good shape for their #gymselfies.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah, young men are *choosing* to have less sex because "it involves another person". Thats rich. Interesting howe these foids always assume the drop in millenial men having sex is by choice.

Regardless, if you thought you had any chance at looksmaxxing, this is how this woman views men who try to self-improve



JFL. She wrote this particle because deep down she despises men who lookmax because it makes it a tiny bit harder to find the natural Chads. In the end, the article reveals the fact we knew all along: Women want men who are naturally high value.
 
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anything mainstream media says=fake news
 
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acnescarcel said:
anything mainstream media says=fake news
especially liberal news they are worst
 
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wandercamp said:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/why-are-modern-men-obsessed-with-self-improvement/\

The article is the usual tripe about toxic masculinity and #meetoo bullshit, but two paragraphs give the game away



You think out of nowhere men realized that working out gives them a better chance with women? Lolno, they realized that standards are rising exponentially and 5 days a week in the gym MINIMUM is mandatory to have a chance with a landwhale in 2018.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah, young men are *choosing* to have less sex because "it involves another person". Thats rich. Interesting howe these foids always assume the drop in millenial men having sex is by choice.

Regardless, if you thought you had any chance at looksmaxxing, this is how this woman views men who try to self-improve



JFL. She wrote this particle because deep down she despises men who lookmax because it makes it a tiny bit harder to find the natural Chads. In the end, the article reveals the fact we knew all along: Women want men who are naturally high value.

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anything mainstream media says=fake news
 
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wandercamp said:
JFL. She wrote this particle because deep down she despises men who lookmax because it makes it a tiny bit harder to find the natural Chads. In the end, the article reveals the fact we knew all along: Women want men who are naturally high value.

wrap it up
 
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This would never ever happen in 2018 because you need to be 200lbs 8% BF at the very minimum.

Wrong. Source: have been lifting for 13 years and have been 200lbs at <10% BF and no girl gave a shit.
 
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Angry_runt said:
Wrong. Source: have been lifting for 13 years and have been 200lbs at <10% BF and no girl gave a shit.

Because your face is ugly; but you would have even worse prospects at 140lbs. It is one of many requirements.

Ideally, you need to be 6'2+ 200lbs at 8% BF without even trying, not slaving away at the gym.
 
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Zenith said:
Because your face is ugly; but you would have even worse prospects at 140lbs. It is one of many requirements.

Can't have worse prospects than zero prospects. That's the whole pointlessness of gymceling - you can't make up for an ugly face. And you certainly don't have to be ripped or jacked to hook up with a Stacy. A pretty face and being above a cutoff height is good enough.
 
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IMPROVING YOURSELF IS FUCKING MISOGYNIST NOW
 
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wandercamp said:
JFL. She wrote this particle because deep down she despises men who lookmax because it makes it a tiny bit harder to find the natural Chads. In the end, the article reveals the fact we knew all along: Women want men who are naturally high value.

Exactly this. High IQ.
 
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the fact that improving yourself is misogynist now speaks volume on how this feminist society views sex now. Its all about the woman, not about the man. And low value men trying to improve their appearance suggests that they think women are shallow, which is one of the worst sins you can do because they are perfect little angels and everything wrong in the world comes solely from men. But of course, the woman will go after natural and real chad because "she can do what she wants"
 
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Angry_runt said:

Second pic is hypergamy in action. The girl has nice boobs, but a goofy fucking face.

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Just noticed the hypocrisy. When women obsess about their appearance, they’re victims of a patriarchal society that has unrealistic beauty standards (men are assholes). When men obsess about their appearance? They’re still the assholes.

So feminists have continued the tradition of finding anyway they can to make anything men’s fault.
 
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TheIncelStaresBack said:
Second pic is hypergamy in action. The girl has nice boobs, but a goofy fucking face.

Lower your standards. That is why you're incel.
 
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wandercamp said:
JFL. She wrote this particle because deep down she despises men who lookmax because it makes it a tiny bit harder to find the natural Chads. In the end, the article reveals the fact we knew all along: Women want men who are naturally high value.

High IQ conclusion.
 
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Angry_runt said:
Lower your standards. That is why you're incel.

I’m assuming you’re just playing the part of cucktears, but still, I never said I wouldn’t fuck her. Point stands though, guy is at least 2 points above her.
 
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She is kinda right, self-improvement is a meme though, she is talking about redpillers. She just wants subhumans to stop trying and rope. I would say it's one of those "blackpills from the whore's mouth" post.
 
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What really amuses me is how completely CLUELESS women are. Does she really think the trend of men improving themselves is because they want to detox their toxic masculinity? Is she completely fucking stupid?

Men workout more because the threshold has never been higher. I used to play with he-man action figures that were less shredded than the guys posting on instagram now for fuck sake.
 
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Food replacement products originated in America’s tech community. They were dreamt up as a way of replacing normal food with something more sustainable and convenient. In 2013, Rob Rhinehart, an American software engineer, launched Soylent. In a blog post entitled ‘How I stopped eating food’, Rhinehart argued that regular food was outdated and expensive. His meal–substitute drink had transformed his body (‘my skin is clearer, my teeth whiter, my hair thicker’), improved his happiness and reduced his spending. It also made him rich. The company is now worth $100 million.

Isn't clear skin and thicker hair associated with lower t levels? Kek the evidence for soy poisoning were always there.
 
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Its all about making men stay in the place they were born.

Its all about being effortlessly good looking.
 
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WarriorSkull said:
Isn't clear skin and thicker hair associated with lower t levels? Kek the evidence for soy poisoning were always there.
You realise that soylent isn't soy right? It's a reference to a movie. The whole soy increases estrogen thing was debunked long long ago. Men aren't getting less masculine, the standards for masculinity have simply exploded.
 
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Like if it was a bad thing to improve yourself but obviously they cannot comprehend it because they don't have to make any effort In life, they get what they want just like children
 
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That was the lowest IQ article I have ever read in my entire life.
 
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Self-improvement is a foreign concept for women. A man has to work to gain things in life? How weird and unusual! I think she was projecting with all that talk of narcissism.
 
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They blame men for everything, yet does anyone call them out for it?

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Self-improvement is a foreign concept for women. A man has to work to gain things in life? How weird and unusual! I think she was projecting with all that talk of narcissism.
Too true. It’s femoid solipsism. A symptom of living life on ez street.
 
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How can you possibly be retarded enough to think young men "have less sex because it involves focusing on someone else"?

Men are obsessed with self-improving because it's their best cope to dealing with inceldom (note: it doesn't fucking work to self-improve) and everyone is telling them to "become real men" and "become attractive" in order to get girlfriends.

Dumb reptile.
 
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wandercamp said:
You realise that soylent isn't soy right? It's a reference to a movie. The whole soy increases estrogen thing was debunked long long ago. Men aren't getting less masculine, the standards for masculinity have simply exploded.

https://soylent.com/pages/about-soylent

What's in Soylent?
Soylent is engineered nutrition. We carefully and purposefully choose each ingredient to offer a complete meal in every bottle of Ready-to-Drink Soylent and each scoop of Soylent Powder. So what do you get?

20 grams of protein
Soy protein isolate provides a smooth texture and robust amino acid profile.

I know it's a meme , but literaaly the first ingredient on their own website is soy.
 
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Angry_runt said:
Wrong. Source: have been lifting for 13 years and have been 200lbs at <10% BF and no girl gave a shit.
that's very impressive bro, you should be proud for what its worth
 
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So are we supposed to self-improve and go to the gym or not???
 
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VST said:
So are we supposed to self-improve and go to the gym or not???
You're supposed to rot
 
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inb4 they turn this into an argument supporting theories of toxic toxic toxic masculinity and rape culture.
 
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Wait a second. So I'm ugly but still wanna have sex. That makes me a creep. I get all sexy and that costs me time out of my search for sex, and now people are like "What are you, too good for sex?" Bitch, where was this when I was begging for it?
 
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If a man focuses on self-improvement, he's a narcissistic misogynist.

If a man focuses on his hobbies, he's a basement dwelling neckbeard loser misogynist.

If a man focuses on trying to get a girlfriend he's an entitled misogynist and engaging in harassment.

If a man goes MGTOW or LDAR he's an extreme misogynist.

Even if a man becomes extremely self-sacrificing there's a good chance he will be labeled "manipulative" or a "Nice Guy" misogynist.

As a (non-chad) male, you are bad just for existing and literally anything you could possibly do, will be demonized as being misogynistic...somehow.

Good find though, OP. You also seem to be getting more black pilled.
 
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Foids hate anything that takes effort. Why can't you just BE fit and healthy?
They want average men to just LDAR. They don't understand how testosterone forces the bottom 80% to keep trying.
 
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"Why dont you basement dwellers improve yourselves no woman wants a man who doesnt put effort"

"teehee why do men improve themselves thats too much we want normal men teehee"
 
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VST said:
So are we supposed to self-improve and go to the gym or not???
You and me and all of this forum suppose to rope.
 
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Are protein bars a legit option for gymcelling? Does anyone know?
 
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SUH said:
"Why dont you basement dwellers improve yourselves no woman wants a man who doesnt put effort"

"teehee why do men improve themselves thats too much we want normal men teehee"
This. Reminder to never trust what a woman says, only draw conclussions from what she does.
 
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This is why female "thought" doesn't matter. It's all pointless womb talk. Every time a woman speaks it's from her fucking womb.
 
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Ryo_Hazuki said:
If a man focuses on self-improvement, he's a narcissistic misogynist.

If a man focuses on his hobbies, he's a basement dwelling neckbeard loser misogynist.

If a man focuses on trying to get a girlfriend he's an entitled misogynist and engaging in harassment.

If a man goes MGTOW or LDAR he's an extreme misogynist.

Even if a man becomes extremely self-sacrificing there's a good chance he will be labeled "manipulative" or a "Nice Guy" misogynist.

As a (non-chad) male, you are bad just for existing and literally anything you could possibly do, will be demonized as being misogynistic...somehow.

Good find though, OP. You also seem to be getting more black pilled.
A man who has to try is a man who has already lost. Things are supposed to happen naturally without much effort, like they do for Chad. Tryhards are genetically inferior specimens who try to mask their inferiority, and women hate that.
 
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The levels of looksmaxing among chads, chadlites and high tier normies is incredible though. Just watch some old TV shows from the early 2000s and a skinnyfit surfer dude was considered to have a good body.