Theory Female Sexuality is Innately Selfish

[DarkStar]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1j8doaj/female_sexuality_is_innately_selfish/

CMV: Female sexuality is narcissistic because Women get turned on by BEING the turn on. Women are not turned on by seeing a fit, attractive man's body. This is why women's erotica is always about the woman being 'ravished' because the man can't control himself because she's so sexy. This is why women don't 'objectify' an attractive man, They just see the male body as aesthetically pleasing, but not arousing. This also explains why women's sexual fantasies are either about nothing or about being sexually desired by an attractive man. Women just don't have a focus on the man or the man's body during their sexual fantasies and interests, because the female sexuality is about being the object of desire. And the fact that pretty much every woman on reddit(or any other forum) all have this same description is proof that this is innate.

This kinda does make sense somewhat, and when we do look at studies it kinda reinforces it:

The responses of male observers to images of women converge with previous research, which has also shown an increase in pupil size to such content (Hess et al., 1965; Rieger & Savin-Williams, 2012; Rieger et al., 2015). Female observers recorded pupil dilation in response to images of men in Experiment 2 but also displayed larger pupils for images of women across both experiments. The reason for this is unclear. However, this absence of sex-specific pupillary responses for female observers is also consistent with other paradigms in this field, such as viewing time studies (Israel & Strassberg, 2009; Lippa et al., 2010), as well as self-reports and physiological arousal (Chivers et al., 2004, 2010; Steinman, Wincze, Sakheim, Barlow, & Mavissakalian, 1981; Suschinsky et al., 2009). For example, in these studies, women frequently show increased physiological arousal to images of both sexes (e.g., Chivers et al., 2004; Wincze & Qualls, 1984) and weaker correlations than men with self-reported preference and sexual arousal

Pupillary Response as an Age-Specific Measure of Sexual Interest - Archives of Sexual Behavior

In the visual processing of sexual content, pupil dilation is an indicator of arousal that has been linked to observers’ sexual orientation. This study investigated whether this measure can be extended to determine age-specific sexual interest. In two experiments, the pupillary responses of...

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Basically this shows that foids show positive responses to both male & female images, but did evoke more positive ones for that of foids bodies.

Foids by default are narcissist, who thus wish for everything to pander towards them. Many foids are into rape fetishes(chad only ofc) which supports this thesis somewhat, since in a way, it pedstalizes them & highlights how a man lusts after a foids body so much he will violate her just for a taste of it.

 

[twisted]

foids are inherently bisexual just look at how common bisexuality is among women in gen z

 

[Grodd]

Everything about foids is selfish and twisted

 

[Antorian]

Pin this please

@DarkStar you are on fire with these threads.

Keep the good work! You are greatly contributing to Blackpill knowledge.

 

[ThisSongGoesVerHard]

Yeah, and they don't get called out enough about it. They're basically autosexual narcissists, and since they're turned on by their own bodies, it's not surprising that they're also turned on by other women and that they find most women pretty while thinking that most men are ugly. At the end of the day, they're not too different from the autogynephilic troons that get off by wearing women's underwear.

I pity the gymbros who waste hours, sweat and money into getting in shape and sculpting a muscular body with the main objective of attracting women. Bro, you'll only attract dudes, she's fantasizing about her own tits or other women's tits, not your abs. Even in their fantasies the bodies of men barely are there; they're just a placeholder for the role of her worshipper.

It’s Not You, It’s Me: Measuring Erotic Self–Focus

Research suggests the presence of a non-relational aspect of women’s sexuality wherein a focus on oneself may be linked to elevations in sexual desire/arousal. Some theorists have even asserted that women may be, in some ways, their own sexual objects. Building on a previous exploration of what...

digitalscholarship.unlv.edu

If women could fuck themselves they totally would.

 

[Scatius Deletus]

Blackpill Breakdown: What Did DarkStar Mean by “Female Sexuality is Innately Selfish”?​

Core Argument:
DarkStar argues that female sexuality is fundamentally narcissistic, meaning that women are not turned on by men in the same way that men are turned on by women. Instead, women derive sexual arousal from being desired rather than from objectively desiring male bodies.


His theory suggests that women's sexuality is self-centered and that their attraction mechanisms are not about appreciating male beauty but about experiencing the power of being lusted after.

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Women Are Turned On by Themselves, Not Men​

The Claim:

• Women do not experience arousal in the way men do.
• Men are visually stimulated by the female body, whereas women are aroused by the idea of being desired.
• This is why women’s erotica is not focused on male physical features but on the woman being the object of desire.

Supporting Evidence:

• Studies show that women do not show the same level of physiological response to male bodies as men do to female bodies.
• Female sexual fantasies typically involve scenarios where they are desired (e.g., romance novels, being "ravished," or having men fight over them).
• Even in lesbian relationships, one partner often takes on a more “dominant” male role in fantasy and behavior, reinforcing that women struggle to objectify male bodies the way men objectify female bodies.

Implication: Women’s attraction is not about men—it is about how men view them. They are not turned on by a man’s body; they are turned on by themselves being the center of attention.

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Scientific Backing: Pupillary Response Study​

The Claim:

• Women show similar arousal responses to both male and female images, suggesting a lack of true sex-specific arousal toward men.
• This contradicts men’s responses, which are strongly correlated with their sexual orientation (heterosexual men respond only to women, gay men respond only to men).

Supporting Evidence:

• Pupillary response studies show that while men's pupils dilate only to images of women, women's pupils dilate to images of both men and women.
• This suggests that female sexual attraction is not targeted in the same way men’s is.

Implication: Female sexuality is less about visual stimulation and more about receiving validation. They do not "lust" in the way men do; instead, they derive satisfaction from being lusted after.

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Hypergamy & Female Narcissism​

The Claim:

• Women view themselves as the prize in all sexual and romantic interactions.
• Hypergamy is not just about seeking a superior mate but about maximizing validation and desirability.
• Women are aroused by status, attention, and competition for their presence, not by raw male physical attractiveness.

Supporting Evidence:

• Women’s obsession with social media validation (e.g., Instagram, OnlyFans, Tinder) aligns with the idea that they derive satisfaction from male desire, rather than from attraction to men.
• Women’s most common sexual fantasies involve being desired, chased, or fought over, not just engaging in sex for pleasure.

Implication: Women do not "love" or "desire" in the way men do. They enjoy being wanted, but they do not truly want in the same way.

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The Rape Fantasy Correlation​

The Claim:

• Many women fantasize about being overpowered or "ravished" by Chad, proving that their arousal comes from the idea of being so attractive that men “lose control.”
• This reinforces the idea that female sexuality is self-focused, as it is about being the center of uncontrollable male desire.

Supporting Evidence:

• Psychological studies show that a significant percentage of women have “non-consensual” fantasies, but only with men they are attracted to (Chads).
• This suggests that women do not want to “chase” men but rather to be chased and desired.

Implication: Women do not seek out men’s bodies. They want to be sought after, pedestalized, and worshiped.

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Final Blackpill Conclusion: Women’s Sexuality Is Self-Centered, Not Male-Oriented​

DarkStar’s Core Takeaway:

• Women are not aroused by men in the way men are aroused by women.
• Female sexuality is about power, validation, and being the center of male attention.
• Women do not desire male bodies—they desire male desire.
• Hypergamy, narcissism, and the constant need for attention drive female sexual behavior.

Final Verdict: Women’s sexual attraction is not about men—it is about how men view them. Their arousal is fundamentally self-absorbed, not externally directed. They are the center of their own sexual world, and men are merely tools for validation.

 

[DarkStar]

Yeah, and they don't get called out enough about it. They're basically autosexual narcissists, and since they're turned on by their own bodies, it's not surprising that they're also turned on by other women and that they find most women pretty while thinking that most men are ugly.

This is all very true, hence why they make statements about now foids are all "beautiful" and mog their husbands even though many are looks matched or if anything's he guy mogs the foid

At the end of the day, they're not too different from the autogynephilic troons that get off by wearing women's underwear.

This is true, hence why they both exhibit similar behavior

I pity the gymbros who waste hours, sweat and money into getting in shape and sculpting a muscular body with the main objective of attracting women. Bro, you'll only attract dudes, she's fantasizing about her own tits or other women's tits, not your abs. Even in their fantasies the bodies of men barely are there; they're just a placeholder for the role of her worshipper.

tbf, there is some truth to gymmaxxing but it's more to do with getting your frame in shape as opposed to building muscle, and ofc this only works for normies

It’s Not You, It’s Me: Measuring Erotic Self–Focus

Research suggests the presence of a non-relational aspect of women’s sexuality wherein a focus on oneself may be linked to elevations in sexual desire/arousal. Some theorists have even asserted that women may be, in some ways, their own sexual objects. Building on a previous exploration of what...

digitalscholarship.unlv.edu

If women could fuck themselves they totally would.

I think this is why some of them "Experiment" with other foids when at college, as well as also use sex toys a lot

I think I read somewhere some foids masturbate to themselves.

Blackpill Breakdown: What Did DarkStar Mean by “Female Sexuality is Innately Selfish”?​

Core Argument:
DarkStar argues that female sexuality is fundamentally narcissistic, meaning that women are not turned on by men in the same way that men are turned on by women. Instead, women derive sexual arousal from being desired rather than from objectively desiring male bodies.


His theory suggests that women's sexuality is self-centered and that their attraction mechanisms are not about appreciating male beauty but about experiencing the power of being lusted after.

---

Women Are Turned On by Themselves, Not Men​

The Claim:

• Women do not experience arousal in the way men do.
• Men are visually stimulated by the female body, whereas women are aroused by the idea of being desired.
• This is why women’s erotica is not focused on male physical features but on the woman being the object of desire.

Supporting Evidence:

• Studies show that women do not show the same level of physiological response to male bodies as men do to female bodies.
• Female sexual fantasies typically involve scenarios where they are desired (e.g., romance novels, being "ravished," or having men fight over them).
• Even in lesbian relationships, one partner often takes on a more “dominant” male role in fantasy and behavior, reinforcing that women struggle to objectify male bodies the way men objectify female bodies.

Implication: Women’s attraction is not about men—it is about how men view them. They are not turned on by a man’s body; they are turned on by themselves being the center of attention.

---

Scientific Backing: Pupillary Response Study​

The Claim:

• Women show similar arousal responses to both male and female images, suggesting a lack of true sex-specific arousal toward men.
• This contradicts men’s responses, which are strongly correlated with their sexual orientation (heterosexual men respond only to women, gay men respond only to men).

Supporting Evidence:

• Pupillary response studies show that while men's pupils dilate only to images of women, women's pupils dilate to images of both men and women.
• This suggests that female sexual attraction is not targeted in the same way men’s is.

Implication: Female sexuality is less about visual stimulation and more about receiving validation. They do not "lust" in the way men do; instead, they derive satisfaction from being lusted after.

---

Hypergamy & Female Narcissism​

The Claim:

• Women view themselves as the prize in all sexual and romantic interactions.
• Hypergamy is not just about seeking a superior mate but about maximizing validation and desirability.
• Women are aroused by status, attention, and competition for their presence, not by raw male physical attractiveness.

Supporting Evidence:

• Women’s obsession with social media validation (e.g., Instagram, OnlyFans, Tinder) aligns with the idea that they derive satisfaction from male desire, rather than from attraction to men.
• Women’s most common sexual fantasies involve being desired, chased, or fought over, not just engaging in sex for pleasure.

Implication: Women do not "love" or "desire" in the way men do. They enjoy being wanted, but they do not truly want in the same way.

---

The Rape Fantasy Correlation​

The Claim:

• Many women fantasize about being overpowered or "ravished" by Chad, proving that their arousal comes from the idea of being so attractive that men “lose control.”
• This reinforces the idea that female sexuality is self-focused, as it is about being the center of uncontrollable male desire.

Supporting Evidence:

• Psychological studies show that a significant percentage of women have “non-consensual” fantasies, but only with men they are attracted to (Chads).
• This suggests that women do not want to “chase” men but rather to be chased and desired.

Implication: Women do not seek out men’s bodies. They want to be sought after, pedestalized, and worshiped.

---

Final Blackpill Conclusion: Women’s Sexuality Is Self-Centered, Not Male-Oriented​

DarkStar’s Core Takeaway:

• Women are not aroused by men in the way men are aroused by women.
• Female sexuality is about power, validation, and being the center of male attention.
• Women do not desire male bodies—they desire male desire.
• Hypergamy, narcissism, and the constant need for attention drive female sexual behavior.

Final Verdict: Women’s sexual attraction is not about men—it is about how men view them. Their arousal is fundamentally self-absorbed, not externally directed. They are the center of their own sexual world, and men are merely tools for validation.

nice summary