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Blackpill FASCISM AND THE BLACKPILL: Why are there so many fascists and alt right in here?

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Within the blackpill community, one of the most interesting types of users to me are the fascists and the alt-right. They don't make up 100% of the blackpill community (most here couldn't care less about politics, even though some do share some ideals), but they are an interesting case study to understand a bit more about the male mindset. These users like to fantasize about fascist societies, and absolutist governments, and even talk about genetic purity.

It's not uncommon for them to fantasize about an ideal world and how it would be politically and socially. This often correlates with a more traditional conservative mindset (more common than it seems among users here), someone very idealistic and emotionally involved with the world. They believe things need to change and, within the male community, there's this notion that men are better suited for leadership in political involvement. This is utterly trivial, a waste of time on politics and concerns about a society that is nothing more than a reality show for people to purposefully distract themselves from their own lives.

Then our dear political science student will quote Plato's phrase: "The man who does not care for politics is destined to be governed by those who do." But look, this phrase is a huge anachronism. Plato lived in a completely different time and environment from ours. What Plato understood as politics is nowhere near what we have today, which is neither a democracy nor a republic. Just ask around if people feel represented by the politicians in power or if they feel their voices are heard as citizens, and most importantly, ask them how much they understand about politics. The answer will usually be around 60, 70, or 80 percent; some might say more, but just ask what the role of a senator is or what a congressman does, and you'll catch the person in their own ignorance.

So yeah, there are many guys in our community distracting themselves from the only thing that matters: their own lives, to pay attention to political reality shows. It's clear that this is a huge distraction when you notice people discussing politics, but not for the greater good. They are at most doing it to feel heard and to feel right in an argument, satisfying their own ego just to turn off their computer after the discussion on Twitter or another social network and distract themselves a bit. Politics is merely entertainment; it's nothing more than people trying to convince themselves that this entertainment is somehow important for their own future and the future of others, for the future of the nation.

But that's the biggest lie. Wasting time talking about how you imagine the world should be won't solve anything in your life or anyone else's life. That's the harsh truth; politicians will make decisions they want regardless of individual opinions. They benefit greatly from this confusion, from this distraction of people wasting time with idle talk, having debates live for others to watch, and in the end, we see that this never brings about change, neither in government nor in culture. If politicians knew about this, which they don't and don't care about, they'd laugh at it all. And the worst part is that many in our community are aware of this and some get upset about issues like corruption and crime, for example.

So, what's the magical solution many men here come up with?

That's right! A totalitarian government, what a genius!

So, is the true blackpill :blackpill: fascism?

200.gif



Okay, there's a crowd that jokes about the term on Twitter and elsewhere because it really annoys some people (ur... a fascist :feelswah:), so it's become a meme, just like the word "incel :incel:" that normies use to call anyone who displeases or criticizes women.

Fascism nowadays is basically anyone who isn't far-left, and the media has also done us this favor, so screw it, it's used a lot in memes. But yes, there is a group that genuinely believes in it. They believe that a strong, centralized, regimented government with male leadership will save the world and give them what they want, what they imagine. These individuals feel socially ostracized, poorly represented or not represented at all, and they imagine that if their ideology somehow wins, they'll have the world they've always wanted. This usually involves talk of a traditional family, living in the countryside with private sovereignty, access to firearms in a strong, sovereign, and functional society.

You can see how this guy has a fantasized mind; it's as simple as that. He starts creating what's known as a wonderland. Men are very idealistic; they are doers by nature, and before they get their hands dirty, they will plan, and this planning comes instinctively, emotionally, through involvement with this plan, this idea, almost compulsively. The guy can't settle and keeps this world in his head, starting to express it and trying to create something. This principle is observable in trades like woodworking, carpentry, and so on, typically male trades.

However, the guy can get too fanatical about these ideas and end up losing himself in them, creating a new matrix.

matrix cinematography GIF



Then the guy says that the real blackpill is fascism because "when one understands the real power of man, which is destined for greatness," a huge cope, an attempt to reaffirm himself and deal with his own obsolescence and lack of purpose. With arguments that the role of men is to lead and that strong male leadership in a centralized power would be best for all men and the nation in general. As we discuss and study in these communities, we conclude that the best way to raise functional individuals is through the nuclear family, which brings traditional gender roles and male leadership within the home.

And then, see, he concludes that he has to put a guy with these ideas in great power (or totalitarian) to make these plans happen. What does he want? Basically, a daddy who has the same ideas as him to save him from degeneration or the unsatisfying world. It's clear inconsistency to use a term like redpill or blackpill to discern a fascist government because it's nothing more than a matrix. In fascist, totalitarian governments (or any traditional-conservative ideology), men are treated like workhorses. Fascist governments are usually extremely militarized and warlike, and who goes to war? Yep, men.


View: https://youtu.be/NXaBT_p0OoU


So you see, anyone who agrees with this idea also agrees with the ideology that condemns himself and other men to a servile life. And see, this is a matrix because fascism comes from the "bundle of rods," famous "strength in unity," and this is extremely matrix-like as the movie shows: where Neo worked at the metacortex company, he arrives late, and the boss says the following: if an employee does poorly, the company does poorly. Suggesting precisely that if you're not useful to the bundle of rods, you'll be discarded.

And as this is a completely regimented state, guys who don't marry or produce more than what's needed or who aren't servile will be discarded, probably in a much more violent way than men suffer in today's society. In our community, if you ask them, they'll criticize fascism and traditional conservatism, but a quick chat with the guy? You'll see his mind is full of these ideologies, really believing that men are destined for greatness and made to lead. If this were true, why aren't men leading society anymore? Why aren't men in a state of greatness today?

Firstly, these guys who say this study history from standout men, powerful men like Napoleon, modern and classical leaders, but they're observing from the exception, disregarding the men who shed their own blood and that of others to put these guys in power. And look how funny, this logic hasn't changed. The difference is precisely where it reigns; today we live in a much more mercantilized, more capitalist empire, but we still maintain the logic: few men in power using the work (and even life) of the men at the base, the overwhelming majority.

Napoleon Krone GIF by Sony Pictures Germany

War Mcr GIF by My Chemical Romance


You know what's funniest?

These men say that men are no longer in leadership, and today we live in the safest and most comfortable society that has ever existed. Technically, shouldn't men be more in charge in today's times than they once were? But they're not, proving precisely that men are not destined for leadership; they are destined to fix and sustain a comfortable society. The moment society becomes comfortable, men become obsolete and lose their leadership, their supposed destiny for greatness. As has been said many times: "Strong men create easy times, easy times create weak men, weak men create hard times, and hard times create strong men."

So, you see, strength, leadership, and the destiny for greatness of men are concentrated only in strong men who are focused only on hard times, which are transformed into easy times by strong men, but for the weak men who destroy it and repeat the cycle. And now I ask you, why would you worry about social functionality, something so alien to you, when in fact you are just wasting resources that could be invested in yourself for an inevitable purpose: hard times and weak men?

This usually stems from male social ostracism, dissatisfaction, and a general lack of purpose often due to an inability to get a perfect girlfriend. Lack of attention and sexual relevance that they think they deserve, just look at these guys' arguments, pro-traditional family, wanting a "honorable" woman and children. The problem isn't that they can't, the problem is that they want something that no longer exists, because getting a family and children is the easiest thing in the world (especially in third-world countries like here in Brazil lol), but of course, you'll have to accept the negotiations that are offered:
  • Taking care of someone else's child
  • A partner with a long history
  • State interference in your relationship
  • No authority
Anyway, all these things that these guys, as good idealists, don't want and aren't satisfied with, and that's why many, including the media, say they are incels, but they are not in involuntary celibacy, they may be celibate, but not involuntarily, they are like this due to a demand that the world can no longer satisfy. So, if you want a family and children? The opportunity is out there:

9a3


There are men who have this purpose and desire to start a family so strong that they cope after cope, convincing themselves that a father is someone who raises and that it's okay to raise someone else's child, betraying their own genetic legacy simply because they have no better option and can't live without this purpose or find another one and be satisfied in solitude. So what's left? Accepting that and fighting to convince themselves that they made the right choice, and you see these guys somehow getting by, barely distracted, even though they don't have a good life with financial problems supporting a family that's not even his, but that he took responsibility for, in a dysfunctional relationship that ruins his mental and physical health, a relationship he's not satisfied with. But look, this guy doesn't let go.

This is the man's sense of purpose, the coherent narrative: I have to sacrifice myself because this is my role; I have to do this because if not me, who will take care of these children and the lady? Anyway, he'll drink cope like water, extremely limiting copes because if he simply realizes that this is a creation of his mind that he can abandon and live a freer life, he will certainly build himself up and improve his life (or maybe not, what if he depends so much on this purpose that by distancing himself he falls into such deep depression that he destroys his life, even possibly committing suicide. So yeah, imagine such a miserable existence having only this to feel a taste of living, even though he's suffering).

Usually, guys in relationships, whether bad or good, are not worried about these things because they already have a lot to worry about, giving them a sense of purpose and distraction. So guys who don't want the relationships available to them start feeling this lack of purpose, indignation, and start creating this craziness in their heads, even getting into some Nazi eugenics talk.

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This talk that miscegenation is bad, that it lowers people's IQ, makes them ugly, and worsens humanity is extremely funny to me because it's somewhat schizophrenic (paranoia is quite common in schizophrenia) and not exclusive to pure Europeans. I've even seen heavily mixed Brazilians saying this, which is totally contradictory because if he believed in what he claims, he would be the first to discard himself since he lacks that purity or high IQ, functionality, and beauty that he thinks pure people should have. At most? He'll convince himself that he's intelligent, but he believes in a narrative that makes no sense and is pure pseudoscience, proving that he's actually DUMB and not as smart as he thinks he is. So, if he truly believes that the incapable shouldn't exist, he should be the first to set an example. But as the saying goes: every villain is the hero of their own story, everyone thinks they know exactly what will save the world.

Look at another narrative with a common paranoia in the community: anti-semitism, (((they))) control the world, (((they))) are the biggest owners of porn sites, (((they))) are destroying our world, (((they))) have been expelled from 109 countries and persecuted for 5000 years.

happy-merchant-goy-ezekiel-jew-merchants-jewish-people-merchant-anonymous-thread-internet-meme.png




It's a strawman narrative, blaming a group/people to avoid self-reflection and realizing that it's the people who want this, they prefer degeneration, and have no knowledge of economics, are short-sighted, and prefer to trade their freedom for security (only to end up with neither). It's not any group or people destroying the economy but the general population itself. The (((they))) narrative is an incredible stretch to condense all the world's problems into one thing. And forgive me for saying: but the world is much more complex than that, it's problems are much more complicated. And all this just shows that these guys are trapped in a matrix because the matrix precisely comes with this talk that one thing will solve everything or one thing is the cause of everything. Never in human history has one thing solved everything or been the cause of all problems.

So you see, why does the media keep saying this community is full of Nazis? It's precisely because of this. You might think it's an exaggeration, but they keep repeating this kinda of talk without realizing it.

Per example, the talk that miscegenation is bad because it produces ugly and dumb people. This is just the talk of a guy dissatisfied with promiscuity because he's not part of the party. The guy's problem isn't with promiscuity; the problem is that promiscuity isn't happening with him. So, the guy who complains about promiscuity leading to miscegenation leading to degeneration, etc., is just projecting the desire he has to reproduce in a way he thinks is functional because everyone who comes with this talk thinks they're pure when there's no more genetic purity. Nobody is pure anymore; there are white-skinned people with African blood (and yes, some people even have this talk in extremely mixed countries, lol).


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And why do these guys focus on male communities like this forum?

I find this concern extremely unnecessary, so I hope it's just a passing curiosity. I remember someone wrote a thread like an open letter to an institute saying we're not fascists, etc. But man, why do you care? "Ah, these guys give the community a bad name :feelswah:." :lul:

Stop being so activist-minded; we don't depend on having a good name, and the media controls the narrative and will say whatever they want, and people will believe it, that's it. Any social good that could come from these male communities is already over, if there was ever a chance of something happening.

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The only thing to do then and now is to take what's good for you from here and leave, go live your life without identifying with any label.

So, these guys are in the male community not because it attracts people like that, as the media likes to say, or that the male community consists of men like that with those thoughts. They are guys who, due to inadequacy, ostracism problems, dissatisfaction, and lack of purpose, gather with like-minded people in forums, communities, etc. And these people will be men because men are the ones going through these same problems and symptoms. And as the saying goes, there's no power vacuum, especially in someone's mind; it's also said, if you don't govern yourself, someone else will.

So, the guy has no purpose, no direction, and no self-governance; the human mind, in general, has a demand for this, and if he doesn't satisfy it himself, his mind will start gravitating towards these environments. So, you see, initially the problem is the person and their inadequacy/lack of purpose, not the community. So, it's not like the dishonest media says: it's a qualification process, you enter, everything's fine, a functional citizen, and you're corrupted and degenerated inside, no! The guy already enters degenerated; it's his degeneration that leads him to this environment. And it's much more likely that a degenerated person corrupts the environment than the environment corrupts a functional person.

They say red/blackpill environments are breeding grounds for future perpetrators of so-called incel attacks. But what's funnier is that, for example, in BDSM communities where guys are not involuntary celibates (because it's a sexual-themed community), it's much more common to find aggressors, murderers, and abusers. But of course, this will never be mentioned because it doesn't fit their narrative, completely in dissonance with their narrative. Just like TV always attacked the internet and video games, and look, it only stopped when they found a way to profit from them.

The media is already attacking the community; there are already university studies on these terms (redpill, blackpill, looksmax), always with a bias towards terrorism, that only bad people come from there, and it's full of problems, all those "isms" and "ists" we already know. What I imagine is that soon, especially in countries with stricter laws, this community will end, and using this terminology will become a crime, banned on various social networks, and that's okay! It's easier to create a new term than defend the old one. And if they pursue these? We'll create something else.

Thanks for reading, this thread was taken from .org, all credit goes to @ John Cracovizk
 
Also, I would like to add this, said by Richard Spencer himself.


 
I would like to know how he reacts when he finds out that his precious Fuhrer was 5"9ft or Goebells was 5"5ft
I also want to know jfl muh alpha movement :lul: :lul:
 
Dnr, more normfag coping

I want to live in a homogenous society with no degenerates & with a controlled economy.
 
Within the blackpill community, one of the most interesting types of users to me are the fascists and the alt-right. They don't make up 100% of the blackpill community (most here couldn't care less about politics, even though some do share some ideals), but they are an interesting case study to understand a bit more about the male mindset. These users like to fantasize about fascist societies, and absolutist governments, and even talk about genetic purity.

It's not uncommon for them to fantasize about an ideal world and how it would be politically and socially. This often correlates with a more traditional conservative mindset (more common than it seems among users here), someone very idealistic and emotionally involved with the world. They believe things need to change and, within the male community, there's this notion that men are better suited for leadership in political involvement. This is utterly trivial, a waste of time on politics and concerns about a society that is nothing more than a reality show for people to purposefully distract themselves from their own lives.

Then our dear political science student will quote Plato's phrase: "The man who does not care for politics is destined to be governed by those who do." But look, this phrase is a huge anachronism. Plato lived in a completely different time and environment from ours. What Plato understood as politics is nowhere near what we have today, which is neither a democracy nor a republic. Just ask around if people feel represented by the politicians in power or if they feel their voices are heard as citizens, and most importantly, ask them how much they understand about politics. The answer will usually be around 60, 70, or 80 percent; some might say more, but just ask what the role of a senator is or what a congressman does, and you'll catch the person in their own ignorance.

So yeah, there are many guys in our community distracting themselves from the only thing that matters: their own lives, to pay attention to political reality shows. It's clear that this is a huge distraction when you notice people discussing politics, but not for the greater good. They are at most doing it to feel heard and to feel right in an argument, satisfying their own ego just to turn off their computer after the discussion on Twitter or another social network and distract themselves a bit. Politics is merely entertainment; it's nothing more than people trying to convince themselves that this entertainment is somehow important for their own future and the future of others, for the future of the nation.

But that's the biggest lie. Wasting time talking about how you imagine the world should be won't solve anything in your life or anyone else's life. That's the harsh truth; politicians will make decisions they want regardless of individual opinions. They benefit greatly from this confusion, from this distraction of people wasting time with idle talk, having debates live for others to watch, and in the end, we see that this never brings about change, neither in government nor in culture. If politicians knew about this, which they don't and don't care about, they'd laugh at it all. And the worst part is that many in our community are aware of this and some get upset about issues like corruption and crime, for example.

So, what's the magical solution many men here come up with?

That's right! A totalitarian government, what a genius!

So, is the true blackpill :blackpill: fascism?

200.gif



Okay, there's a crowd that jokes about the term on Twitter and elsewhere because it really annoys some people (ur... a fascist :feelswah:), so it's become a meme, just like the word "incel :incel:" that normies use to call anyone who displeases or criticizes women.

Fascism nowadays is basically anyone who isn't far-left, and the media has also done us this favor, so screw it, it's used a lot in memes. But yes, there is a group that genuinely believes in it. They believe that a strong, centralized, regimented government with male leadership will save the world and give them what they want, what they imagine. These individuals feel socially ostracized, poorly represented or not represented at all, and they imagine that if their ideology somehow wins, they'll have the world they've always wanted. This usually involves talk of a traditional family, living in the countryside with private sovereignty, access to firearms in a strong, sovereign, and functional society.

You can see how this guy has a fantasized mind; it's as simple as that. He starts creating what's known as a wonderland. Men are very idealistic; they are doers by nature, and before they get their hands dirty, they will plan, and this planning comes instinctively, emotionally, through involvement with this plan, this idea, almost compulsively. The guy can't settle and keeps this world in his head, starting to express it and trying to create something. This principle is observable in trades like woodworking, carpentry, and so on, typically male trades.

However, the guy can get too fanatical about these ideas and end up losing himself in them, creating a new matrix.

matrix cinematography GIF



Then the guy says that the real blackpill is fascism because "when one understands the real power of man, which is destined for greatness," a huge cope, an attempt to reaffirm himself and deal with his own obsolescence and lack of purpose. With arguments that the role of men is to lead and that strong male leadership in a centralized power would be best for all men and the nation in general. As we discuss and study in these communities, we conclude that the best way to raise functional individuals is through the nuclear family, which brings traditional gender roles and male leadership within the home.

And then, see, he concludes that he has to put a guy with these ideas in great power (or totalitarian) to make these plans happen. What does he want? Basically, a daddy who has the same ideas as him to save him from degeneration or the unsatisfying world. It's clear inconsistency to use a term like redpill or blackpill to discern a fascist government because it's nothing more than a matrix. In fascist, totalitarian governments (or any traditional-conservative ideology), men are treated like workhorses. Fascist governments are usually extremely militarized and warlike, and who goes to war? Yep, men.


View: https://youtu.be/NXaBT_p0OoU


So you see, anyone who agrees with this idea also agrees with the ideology that condemns himself and other men to a servile life. And see, this is a matrix because fascism comes from the "bundle of rods," famous "strength in unity," and this is extremely matrix-like as the movie shows: where Neo worked at the metacortex company, he arrives late, and the boss says the following: if an employee does poorly, the company does poorly. Suggesting precisely that if you're not useful to the bundle of rods, you'll be discarded.

And as this is a completely regimented state, guys who don't marry or produce more than what's needed or who aren't servile will be discarded, probably in a much more violent way than men suffer in today's society. In our community, if you ask them, they'll criticize fascism and traditional conservatism, but a quick chat with the guy? You'll see his mind is full of these ideologies, really believing that men are destined for greatness and made to lead. If this were true, why aren't men leading society anymore? Why aren't men in a state of greatness today?

Firstly, these guys who say this study history from standout men, powerful men like Napoleon, modern and classical leaders, but they're observing from the exception, disregarding the men who shed their own blood and that of others to put these guys in power. And look how funny, this logic hasn't changed. The difference is precisely where it reigns; today we live in a much more mercantilized, more capitalist empire, but we still maintain the logic: few men in power using the work (and even life) of the men at the base, the overwhelming majority.

Napoleon Krone GIF by Sony Pictures Germany

War Mcr GIF by My Chemical Romance


You know what's funniest?

These men say that men are no longer in leadership, and today we live in the safest and most comfortable society that has ever existed. Technically, shouldn't men be more in charge in today's times than they once were? But they're not, proving precisely that men are not destined for leadership; they are destined to fix and sustain a comfortable society. The moment society becomes comfortable, men become obsolete and lose their leadership, their supposed destiny for greatness. As has been said many times: "Strong men create easy times, easy times create weak men, weak men create hard times, and hard times create strong men."

So, you see, strength, leadership, and the destiny for greatness of men are concentrated only in strong men who are focused only on hard times, which are transformed into easy times by strong men, but for the weak men who destroy it and repeat the cycle. And now I ask you, why would you worry about social functionality, something so alien to you, when in fact you are just wasting resources that could be invested in yourself for an inevitable purpose: hard times and weak men?

This usually stems from male social ostracism, dissatisfaction, and a general lack of purpose often due to an inability to get a perfect girlfriend. Lack of attention and sexual relevance that they think they deserve, just look at these guys' arguments, pro-traditional family, wanting a "honorable" woman and children. The problem isn't that they can't, the problem is that they want something that no longer exists, because getting a family and children is the easiest thing in the world (especially in third-world countries like here in Brazil lol), but of course, you'll have to accept the negotiations that are offered:
  • Taking care of someone else's child
  • A partner with a long history
  • State interference in your relationship
  • No authority
Anyway, all these things that these guys, as good idealists, don't want and aren't satisfied with, and that's why many, including the media, say they are incels, but they are not in involuntary celibacy, they may be celibate, but not involuntarily, they are like this due to a demand that the world can no longer satisfy. So, if you want a family and children? The opportunity is out there:

9a3


There are men who have this purpose and desire to start a family so strong that they cope after cope, convincing themselves that a father is someone who raises and that it's okay to raise someone else's child, betraying their own genetic legacy simply because they have no better option and can't live without this purpose or find another one and be satisfied in solitude. So what's left? Accepting that and fighting to convince themselves that they made the right choice, and you see these guys somehow getting by, barely distracted, even though they don't have a good life with financial problems supporting a family that's not even his, but that he took responsibility for, in a dysfunctional relationship that ruins his mental and physical health, a relationship he's not satisfied with. But look, this guy doesn't let go.

This is the man's sense of purpose, the coherent narrative: I have to sacrifice myself because this is my role; I have to do this because if not me, who will take care of these children and the lady? Anyway, he'll drink cope like water, extremely limiting copes because if he simply realizes that this is a creation of his mind that he can abandon and live a freer life, he will certainly build himself up and improve his life (or maybe not, what if he depends so much on this purpose that by distancing himself he falls into such deep depression that he destroys his life, even possibly committing suicide. So yeah, imagine such a miserable existence having only this to feel a taste of living, even though he's suffering).

Usually, guys in relationships, whether bad or good, are not worried about these things because they already have a lot to worry about, giving them a sense of purpose and distraction. So guys who don't want the relationships available to them start feeling this lack of purpose, indignation, and start creating this craziness in their heads, even getting into some Nazi eugenics talk.

74117b78680d619af348d8e3ad48831780545f209eb6747476f21adaef1e136e 1


This talk that miscegenation is bad, that it lowers people's IQ, makes them ugly, and worsens humanity is extremely funny to me because it's somewhat schizophrenic (paranoia is quite common in schizophrenia) and not exclusive to pure Europeans. I've even seen heavily mixed Brazilians saying this, which is totally contradictory because if he believed in what he claims, he would be the first to discard himself since he lacks that purity or high IQ, functionality, and beauty that he thinks pure people should have. At most? He'll convince himself that he's intelligent, but he believes in a narrative that makes no sense and is pure pseudoscience, proving that he's actually DUMB and not as smart as he thinks he is. So, if he truly believes that the incapable shouldn't exist, he should be the first to set an example. But as the saying goes: every villain is the hero of their own story, everyone thinks they know exactly what will save the world.

Look at another narrative with a common paranoia in the community: anti-semitism, (((they))) control the world, (((they))) are the biggest owners of porn sites, (((they))) are destroying our world, (((they))) have been expelled from 109 countries and persecuted for 5000 years.

happy-merchant-goy-ezekiel-jew-merchants-jewish-people-merchant-anonymous-thread-internet-meme.png




It's a strawman narrative, blaming a group/people to avoid self-reflection and realizing that it's the people who want this, they prefer degeneration, and have no knowledge of economics, are short-sighted, and prefer to trade their freedom for security (only to end up with neither). It's not any group or people destroying the economy but the general population itself. The (((they))) narrative is an incredible stretch to condense all the world's problems into one thing. And forgive me for saying: but the world is much more complex than that, it's problems are much more complicated. And all this just shows that these guys are trapped in a matrix because the matrix precisely comes with this talk that one thing will solve everything or one thing is the cause of everything. Never in human history has one thing solved everything or been the cause of all problems.

So you see, why does the media keep saying this community is full of Nazis? It's precisely because of this. You might think it's an exaggeration, but they keep repeating this kinda of talk without realizing it.

Per example, the talk that miscegenation is bad because it produces ugly and dumb people. This is just the talk of a guy dissatisfied with promiscuity because he's not part of the party. The guy's problem isn't with promiscuity; the problem is that promiscuity isn't happening with him. So, the guy who complains about promiscuity leading to miscegenation leading to degeneration, etc., is just projecting the desire he has to reproduce in a way he thinks is functional because everyone who comes with this talk thinks they're pure when there's no more genetic purity. Nobody is pure anymore; there are white-skinned people with African blood (and yes, some people even have this talk in extremely mixed countries, lol).


F4Cnwj8XYAAnJdo.jpg:large



And why do these guys focus on male communities like this forum?

I find this concern extremely unnecessary, so I hope it's just a passing curiosity. I remember someone wrote a thread like an open letter to an institute saying we're not fascists, etc. But man, why do you care? "Ah, these guys give the community a bad name :feelswah:." :lul:

Stop being so activist-minded; we don't depend on having a good name, and the media controls the narrative and will say whatever they want, and people will believe it, that's it. Any social good that could come from these male communities is already over, if there was ever a chance of something happening.

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The only thing to do then and now is to take what's good for you from here and leave, go live your life without identifying with any label.

So, these guys are in the male community not because it attracts people like that, as the media likes to say, or that the male community consists of men like that with those thoughts. They are guys who, due to inadequacy, ostracism problems, dissatisfaction, and lack of purpose, gather with like-minded people in forums, communities, etc. And these people will be men because men are the ones going through these same problems and symptoms. And as the saying goes, there's no power vacuum, especially in someone's mind; it's also said, if you don't govern yourself, someone else will.

So, the guy has no purpose, no direction, and no self-governance; the human mind, in general, has a demand for this, and if he doesn't satisfy it himself, his mind will start gravitating towards these environments. So, you see, initially the problem is the person and their inadequacy/lack of purpose, not the community. So, it's not like the dishonest media says: it's a qualification process, you enter, everything's fine, a functional citizen, and you're corrupted and degenerated inside, no! The guy already enters degenerated; it's his degeneration that leads him to this environment. And it's much more likely that a degenerated person corrupts the environment than the environment corrupts a functional person.

They say red/blackpill environments are breeding grounds for future perpetrators of so-called incel attacks. But what's funnier is that, for example, in BDSM communities where guys are not involuntary celibates (because it's a sexual-themed community), it's much more common to find aggressors, murderers, and abusers. But of course, this will never be mentioned because it doesn't fit their narrative, completely in dissonance with their narrative. Just like TV always attacked the internet and video games, and look, it only stopped when they found a way to profit from them.

The media is already attacking the community; there are already university studies on these terms (redpill, blackpill, looksmax), always with a bias towards terrorism, that only bad people come from there, and it's full of problems, all those "isms" and "ists" we already know. What I imagine is that soon, especially in countries with stricter laws, this community will end, and using this terminology will become a crime, banned on various social networks, and that's okay! It's easier to create a new term than defend the old one. And if they pursue these? We'll create something else.

Thanks for reading, this thread was taken from .org, all credit goes to @ John Cracovizk

Because fascism is interested in improving the life of the average citizen of its country, and fascism is also interested in taking away the rights of foids, since fascism needs a lot of young guys who can join the army and conquer some territory.
 
dnr, the need to conquer and dominate others resides within the male bane of existence and therefore fascism is attractive to them.
 
Because fascism is interested in improving the life of the average citizen of its country, and fascism is also interested in taking away the rights of foids, since fascism needs a lot of young guys who can join the army and conquer some territory.
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Because fascism is interested in improving the life of the average citizen of its country, and fascism is also interested in taking away the rights of foids, since fascism needs a lot of young guys who can join the army and conquer some territory.
 
Within the blackpill community, one of the most interesting types of users to me are the fascists and the alt-right. They don't make up 100% of the blackpill community (most here couldn't care less about politics, even though some do share some ideals), but they are an interesting case study to understand a bit more about the male mindset. These users like to fantasize about fascist societies, and absolutist governments, and even talk about genetic purity.

It's not uncommon for them to fantasize about an ideal world and how it would be politically and socially. This often correlates with a more traditional conservative mindset (more common than it seems among users here), someone very idealistic and emotionally involved with the world. They believe things need to change and, within the male community, there's this notion that men are better suited for leadership in political involvement. This is utterly trivial, a waste of time on politics and concerns about a society that is nothing more than a reality show for people to purposefully distract themselves from their own lives.

Then our dear political science student will quote Plato's phrase: "The man who does not care for politics is destined to be governed by those who do." But look, this phrase is a huge anachronism. Plato lived in a completely different time and environment from ours. What Plato understood as politics is nowhere near what we have today, which is neither a democracy nor a republic. Just ask around if people feel represented by the politicians in power or if they feel their voices are heard as citizens, and most importantly, ask them how much they understand about politics. The answer will usually be around 60, 70, or 80 percent; some might say more, but just ask what the role of a senator is or what a congressman does, and you'll catch the person in their own ignorance.

So yeah, there are many guys in our community distracting themselves from the only thing that matters: their own lives, to pay attention to political reality shows. It's clear that this is a huge distraction when you notice people discussing politics, but not for the greater good. They are at most doing it to feel heard and to feel right in an argument, satisfying their own ego just to turn off their computer after the discussion on Twitter or another social network and distract themselves a bit. Politics is merely entertainment; it's nothing more than people trying to convince themselves that this entertainment is somehow important for their own future and the future of others, for the future of the nation.

But that's the biggest lie. Wasting time talking about how you imagine the world should be won't solve anything in your life or anyone else's life. That's the harsh truth; politicians will make decisions they want regardless of individual opinions. They benefit greatly from this confusion, from this distraction of people wasting time with idle talk, having debates live for others to watch, and in the end, we see that this never brings about change, neither in government nor in culture. If politicians knew about this, which they don't and don't care about, they'd laugh at it all. And the worst part is that many in our community are aware of this and some get upset about issues like corruption and crime, for example.

So, what's the magical solution many men here come up with?

That's right! A totalitarian government, what a genius!

So, is the true blackpill :blackpill: fascism?

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Okay, there's a crowd that jokes about the term on Twitter and elsewhere because it really annoys some people (ur... a fascist :feelswah:), so it's become a meme, just like the word "incel :incel:" that normies use to call anyone who displeases or criticizes women.

Fascism nowadays is basically anyone who isn't far-left, and the media has also done us this favor, so screw it, it's used a lot in memes. But yes, there is a group that genuinely believes in it. They believe that a strong, centralized, regimented government with male leadership will save the world and give them what they want, what they imagine. These individuals feel socially ostracized, poorly represented or not represented at all, and they imagine that if their ideology somehow wins, they'll have the world they've always wanted. This usually involves talk of a traditional family, living in the countryside with private sovereignty, access to firearms in a strong, sovereign, and functional society.

You can see how this guy has a fantasized mind; it's as simple as that. He starts creating what's known as a wonderland. Men are very idealistic; they are doers by nature, and before they get their hands dirty, they will plan, and this planning comes instinctively, emotionally, through involvement with this plan, this idea, almost compulsively. The guy can't settle and keeps this world in his head, starting to express it and trying to create something. This principle is observable in trades like woodworking, carpentry, and so on, typically male trades.

However, the guy can get too fanatical about these ideas and end up losing himself in them, creating a new matrix.

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Then the guy says that the real blackpill is fascism because "when one understands the real power of man, which is destined for greatness," a huge cope, an attempt to reaffirm himself and deal with his own obsolescence and lack of purpose. With arguments that the role of men is to lead and that strong male leadership in a centralized power would be best for all men and the nation in general. As we discuss and study in these communities, we conclude that the best way to raise functional individuals is through the nuclear family, which brings traditional gender roles and male leadership within the home.

And then, see, he concludes that he has to put a guy with these ideas in great power (or totalitarian) to make these plans happen. What does he want? Basically, a daddy who has the same ideas as him to save him from degeneration or the unsatisfying world. It's clear inconsistency to use a term like redpill or blackpill to discern a fascist government because it's nothing more than a matrix. In fascist, totalitarian governments (or any traditional-conservative ideology), men are treated like workhorses. Fascist governments are usually extremely militarized and warlike, and who goes to war? Yep, men.


View: https://youtu.be/NXaBT_p0OoU


So you see, anyone who agrees with this idea also agrees with the ideology that condemns himself and other men to a servile life. And see, this is a matrix because fascism comes from the "bundle of rods," famous "strength in unity," and this is extremely matrix-like as the movie shows: where Neo worked at the metacortex company, he arrives late, and the boss says the following: if an employee does poorly, the company does poorly. Suggesting precisely that if you're not useful to the bundle of rods, you'll be discarded.

And as this is a completely regimented state, guys who don't marry or produce more than what's needed or who aren't servile will be discarded, probably in a much more violent way than men suffer in today's society. In our community, if you ask them, they'll criticize fascism and traditional conservatism, but a quick chat with the guy? You'll see his mind is full of these ideologies, really believing that men are destined for greatness and made to lead. If this were true, why aren't men leading society anymore? Why aren't men in a state of greatness today?

Firstly, these guys who say this study history from standout men, powerful men like Napoleon, modern and classical leaders, but they're observing from the exception, disregarding the men who shed their own blood and that of others to put these guys in power. And look how funny, this logic hasn't changed. The difference is precisely where it reigns; today we live in a much more mercantilized, more capitalist empire, but we still maintain the logic: few men in power using the work (and even life) of the men at the base, the overwhelming majority.

Napoleon Krone GIF by Sony Pictures Germany

War Mcr GIF by My Chemical Romance


You know what's funniest?

These men say that men are no longer in leadership, and today we live in the safest and most comfortable society that has ever existed. Technically, shouldn't men be more in charge in today's times than they once were? But they're not, proving precisely that men are not destined for leadership; they are destined to fix and sustain a comfortable society. The moment society becomes comfortable, men become obsolete and lose their leadership, their supposed destiny for greatness. As has been said many times: "Strong men create easy times, easy times create weak men, weak men create hard times, and hard times create strong men."

So, you see, strength, leadership, and the destiny for greatness of men are concentrated only in strong men who are focused only on hard times, which are transformed into easy times by strong men, but for the weak men who destroy it and repeat the cycle. And now I ask you, why would you worry about social functionality, something so alien to you, when in fact you are just wasting resources that could be invested in yourself for an inevitable purpose: hard times and weak men?

This usually stems from male social ostracism, dissatisfaction, and a general lack of purpose often due to an inability to get a perfect girlfriend. Lack of attention and sexual relevance that they think they deserve, just look at these guys' arguments, pro-traditional family, wanting a "honorable" woman and children. The problem isn't that they can't, the problem is that they want something that no longer exists, because getting a family and children is the easiest thing in the world (especially in third-world countries like here in Brazil lol), but of course, you'll have to accept the negotiations that are offered:
  • Taking care of someone else's child
  • A partner with a long history
  • State interference in your relationship
  • No authority
Anyway, all these things that these guys, as good idealists, don't want and aren't satisfied with, and that's why many, including the media, say they are incels, but they are not in involuntary celibacy, they may be celibate, but not involuntarily, they are like this due to a demand that the world can no longer satisfy. So, if you want a family and children? The opportunity is out there:

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There are men who have this purpose and desire to start a family so strong that they cope after cope, convincing themselves that a father is someone who raises and that it's okay to raise someone else's child, betraying their own genetic legacy simply because they have no better option and can't live without this purpose or find another one and be satisfied in solitude. So what's left? Accepting that and fighting to convince themselves that they made the right choice, and you see these guys somehow getting by, barely distracted, even though they don't have a good life with financial problems supporting a family that's not even his, but that he took responsibility for, in a dysfunctional relationship that ruins his mental and physical health, a relationship he's not satisfied with. But look, this guy doesn't let go.

This is the man's sense of purpose, the coherent narrative: I have to sacrifice myself because this is my role; I have to do this because if not me, who will take care of these children and the lady? Anyway, he'll drink cope like water, extremely limiting copes because if he simply realizes that this is a creation of his mind that he can abandon and live a freer life, he will certainly build himself up and improve his life (or maybe not, what if he depends so much on this purpose that by distancing himself he falls into such deep depression that he destroys his life, even possibly committing suicide. So yeah, imagine such a miserable existence having only this to feel a taste of living, even though he's suffering).

Usually, guys in relationships, whether bad or good, are not worried about these things because they already have a lot to worry about, giving them a sense of purpose and distraction. So guys who don't want the relationships available to them start feeling this lack of purpose, indignation, and start creating this craziness in their heads, even getting into some Nazi eugenics talk.

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This talk that miscegenation is bad, that it lowers people's IQ, makes them ugly, and worsens humanity is extremely funny to me because it's somewhat schizophrenic (paranoia is quite common in schizophrenia) and not exclusive to pure Europeans. I've even seen heavily mixed Brazilians saying this, which is totally contradictory because if he believed in what he claims, he would be the first to discard himself since he lacks that purity or high IQ, functionality, and beauty that he thinks pure people should have. At most? He'll convince himself that he's intelligent, but he believes in a narrative that makes no sense and is pure pseudoscience, proving that he's actually DUMB and not as smart as he thinks he is. So, if he truly believes that the incapable shouldn't exist, he should be the first to set an example. But as the saying goes: every villain is the hero of their own story, everyone thinks they know exactly what will save the world.

Look at another narrative with a common paranoia in the community: anti-semitism, (((they))) control the world, (((they))) are the biggest owners of porn sites, (((they))) are destroying our world, (((they))) have been expelled from 109 countries and persecuted for 5000 years.

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It's a strawman narrative, blaming a group/people to avoid self-reflection and realizing that it's the people who want this, they prefer degeneration, and have no knowledge of economics, are short-sighted, and prefer to trade their freedom for security (only to end up with neither). It's not any group or people destroying the economy but the general population itself. The (((they))) narrative is an incredible stretch to condense all the world's problems into one thing. And forgive me for saying: but the world is much more complex than that, it's problems are much more complicated. And all this just shows that these guys are trapped in a matrix because the matrix precisely comes with this talk that one thing will solve everything or one thing is the cause of everything. Never in human history has one thing solved everything or been the cause of all problems.

So you see, why does the media keep saying this community is full of Nazis? It's precisely because of this. You might think it's an exaggeration, but they keep repeating this kinda of talk without realizing it.

Per example, the talk that miscegenation is bad because it produces ugly and dumb people. This is just the talk of a guy dissatisfied with promiscuity because he's not part of the party. The guy's problem isn't with promiscuity; the problem is that promiscuity isn't happening with him. So, the guy who complains about promiscuity leading to miscegenation leading to degeneration, etc., is just projecting the desire he has to reproduce in a way he thinks is functional because everyone who comes with this talk thinks they're pure when there's no more genetic purity. Nobody is pure anymore; there are white-skinned people with African blood (and yes, some people even have this talk in extremely mixed countries, lol).


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And why do these guys focus on male communities like this forum?

I find this concern extremely unnecessary, so I hope it's just a passing curiosity. I remember someone wrote a thread like an open letter to an institute saying we're not fascists, etc. But man, why do you care? "Ah, these guys give the community a bad name :feelswah:." :lul:

Stop being so activist-minded; we don't depend on having a good name, and the media controls the narrative and will say whatever they want, and people will believe it, that's it. Any social good that could come from these male communities is already over, if there was ever a chance of something happening.

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The only thing to do then and now is to take what's good for you from here and leave, go live your life without identifying with any label.

So, these guys are in the male community not because it attracts people like that, as the media likes to say, or that the male community consists of men like that with those thoughts. They are guys who, due to inadequacy, ostracism problems, dissatisfaction, and lack of purpose, gather with like-minded people in forums, communities, etc. And these people will be men because men are the ones going through these same problems and symptoms. And as the saying goes, there's no power vacuum, especially in someone's mind; it's also said, if you don't govern yourself, someone else will.

So, the guy has no purpose, no direction, and no self-governance; the human mind, in general, has a demand for this, and if he doesn't satisfy it himself, his mind will start gravitating towards these environments. So, you see, initially the problem is the person and their inadequacy/lack of purpose, not the community. So, it's not like the dishonest media says: it's a qualification process, you enter, everything's fine, a functional citizen, and you're corrupted and degenerated inside, no! The guy already enters degenerated; it's his degeneration that leads him to this environment. And it's much more likely that a degenerated person corrupts the environment than the environment corrupts a functional person.

They say red/blackpill environments are breeding grounds for future perpetrators of so-called incel attacks. But what's funnier is that, for example, in BDSM communities where guys are not involuntary celibates (because it's a sexual-themed community), it's much more common to find aggressors, murderers, and abusers. But of course, this will never be mentioned because it doesn't fit their narrative, completely in dissonance with their narrative. Just like TV always attacked the internet and video games, and look, it only stopped when they found a way to profit from them.

The media is already attacking the community; there are already university studies on these terms (redpill, blackpill, looksmax), always with a bias towards terrorism, that only bad people come from there, and it's full of problems, all those "isms" and "ists" we already know. What I imagine is that soon, especially in countries with stricter laws, this community will end, and using this terminology will become a crime, banned on various social networks, and that's okay! It's easier to create a new term than defend the old one. And if they pursue these? We'll create something else.

Thanks for reading, this thread was taken from .org, all credit goes to @ John Cracovizk

Neoliberalism and Libertarianism are much worse than fascism, since they benefit from increasing monetary inequality and dividing everyone into rich and poor, eliminating the middle class, which should stand between the poor and the rich.
 
I would have guessed Reddit, but .org is close enough I guess. Point in the scoreboard for me! :feelsautistic:
 
dnr, the need to conquer and dominate others resides within the male bane of existence and therefore fascism is attractive to them.
Jfl that’s probably the only good explanation since this thread dropped I also like facism only due to this
 
Neoliberalism and Libertarianism are much worse than fascism, since they benefit from increasing monetary inequality and dividing everyone into rich and poor, eliminating the middle class, which should stand between the poor and the rich.
You think there is a middle class in fascism?
 
Within the blackpill community, one of the most interesting types of users to me are the fascists and the alt-right. They don't make up 100% of the blackpill community (most here couldn't care less about politics, even though some do share some ideals), but they are an interesting case study to understand a bit more about the male mindset. These users like to fantasize about fascist societies, and absolutist governments, and even talk about genetic purity.

It's not uncommon for them to fantasize about an ideal world and how it would be politically and socially. This often correlates with a more traditional conservative mindset (more common than it seems among users here), someone very idealistic and emotionally involved with the world. They believe things need to change and, within the male community, there's this notion that men are better suited for leadership in political involvement. This is utterly trivial, a waste of time on politics and concerns about a society that is nothing more than a reality show for people to purposefully distract themselves from their own lives.

Then our dear political science student will quote Plato's phrase: "The man who does not care for politics is destined to be governed by those who do." But look, this phrase is a huge anachronism. Plato lived in a completely different time and environment from ours. What Plato understood as politics is nowhere near what we have today, which is neither a democracy nor a republic. Just ask around if people feel represented by the politicians in power or if they feel their voices are heard as citizens, and most importantly, ask them how much they understand about politics. The answer will usually be around 60, 70, or 80 percent; some might say more, but just ask what the role of a senator is or what a congressman does, and you'll catch the person in their own ignorance.

So yeah, there are many guys in our community distracting themselves from the only thing that matters: their own lives, to pay attention to political reality shows. It's clear that this is a huge distraction when you notice people discussing politics, but not for the greater good. They are at most doing it to feel heard and to feel right in an argument, satisfying their own ego just to turn off their computer after the discussion on Twitter or another social network and distract themselves a bit. Politics is merely entertainment; it's nothing more than people trying to convince themselves that this entertainment is somehow important for their own future and the future of others, for the future of the nation.

But that's the biggest lie. Wasting time talking about how you imagine the world should be won't solve anything in your life or anyone else's life. That's the harsh truth; politicians will make decisions they want regardless of individual opinions. They benefit greatly from this confusion, from this distraction of people wasting time with idle talk, having debates live for others to watch, and in the end, we see that this never brings about change, neither in government nor in culture. If politicians knew about this, which they don't and don't care about, they'd laugh at it all. And the worst part is that many in our community are aware of this and some get upset about issues like corruption and crime, for example.

So, what's the magical solution many men here come up with?

That's right! A totalitarian government, what a genius!

So, is the true blackpill :blackpill: fascism?

200.gif



Okay, there's a crowd that jokes about the term on Twitter and elsewhere because it really annoys some people (ur... a fascist :feelswah:), so it's become a meme, just like the word "incel :incel:" that normies use to call anyone who displeases or criticizes women.

Fascism nowadays is basically anyone who isn't far-left, and the media has also done us this favor, so screw it, it's used a lot in memes. But yes, there is a group that genuinely believes in it. They believe that a strong, centralized, regimented government with male leadership will save the world and give them what they want, what they imagine. These individuals feel socially ostracized, poorly represented or not represented at all, and they imagine that if their ideology somehow wins, they'll have the world they've always wanted. This usually involves talk of a traditional family, living in the countryside with private sovereignty, access to firearms in a strong, sovereign, and functional society.

You can see how this guy has a fantasized mind; it's as simple as that. He starts creating what's known as a wonderland. Men are very idealistic; they are doers by nature, and before they get their hands dirty, they will plan, and this planning comes instinctively, emotionally, through involvement with this plan, this idea, almost compulsively. The guy can't settle and keeps this world in his head, starting to express it and trying to create something. This principle is observable in trades like woodworking, carpentry, and so on, typically male trades.

However, the guy can get too fanatical about these ideas and end up losing himself in them, creating a new matrix.

matrix cinematography GIF



Then the guy says that the real blackpill is fascism because "when one understands the real power of man, which is destined for greatness," a huge cope, an attempt to reaffirm himself and deal with his own obsolescence and lack of purpose. With arguments that the role of men is to lead and that strong male leadership in a centralized power would be best for all men and the nation in general. As we discuss and study in these communities, we conclude that the best way to raise functional individuals is through the nuclear family, which brings traditional gender roles and male leadership within the home.

And then, see, he concludes that he has to put a guy with these ideas in great power (or totalitarian) to make these plans happen. What does he want? Basically, a daddy who has the same ideas as him to save him from degeneration or the unsatisfying world. It's clear inconsistency to use a term like redpill or blackpill to discern a fascist government because it's nothing more than a matrix. In fascist, totalitarian governments (or any traditional-conservative ideology), men are treated like workhorses. Fascist governments are usually extremely militarized and warlike, and who goes to war? Yep, men.


View: https://youtu.be/NXaBT_p0OoU


So you see, anyone who agrees with this idea also agrees with the ideology that condemns himself and other men to a servile life. And see, this is a matrix because fascism comes from the "bundle of rods," famous "strength in unity," and this is extremely matrix-like as the movie shows: where Neo worked at the metacortex company, he arrives late, and the boss says the following: if an employee does poorly, the company does poorly. Suggesting precisely that if you're not useful to the bundle of rods, you'll be discarded.

And as this is a completely regimented state, guys who don't marry or produce more than what's needed or who aren't servile will be discarded, probably in a much more violent way than men suffer in today's society. In our community, if you ask them, they'll criticize fascism and traditional conservatism, but a quick chat with the guy? You'll see his mind is full of these ideologies, really believing that men are destined for greatness and made to lead. If this were true, why aren't men leading society anymore? Why aren't men in a state of greatness today?

Firstly, these guys who say this study history from standout men, powerful men like Napoleon, modern and classical leaders, but they're observing from the exception, disregarding the men who shed their own blood and that of others to put these guys in power. And look how funny, this logic hasn't changed. The difference is precisely where it reigns; today we live in a much more mercantilized, more capitalist empire, but we still maintain the logic: few men in power using the work (and even life) of the men at the base, the overwhelming majority.

Napoleon Krone GIF by Sony Pictures Germany

War Mcr GIF by My Chemical Romance


You know what's funniest?

These men say that men are no longer in leadership, and today we live in the safest and most comfortable society that has ever existed. Technically, shouldn't men be more in charge in today's times than they once were? But they're not, proving precisely that men are not destined for leadership; they are destined to fix and sustain a comfortable society. The moment society becomes comfortable, men become obsolete and lose their leadership, their supposed destiny for greatness. As has been said many times: "Strong men create easy times, easy times create weak men, weak men create hard times, and hard times create strong men."

So, you see, strength, leadership, and the destiny for greatness of men are concentrated only in strong men who are focused only on hard times, which are transformed into easy times by strong men, but for the weak men who destroy it and repeat the cycle. And now I ask you, why would you worry about social functionality, something so alien to you, when in fact you are just wasting resources that could be invested in yourself for an inevitable purpose: hard times and weak men?

This usually stems from male social ostracism, dissatisfaction, and a general lack of purpose often due to an inability to get a perfect girlfriend. Lack of attention and sexual relevance that they think they deserve, just look at these guys' arguments, pro-traditional family, wanting a "honorable" woman and children. The problem isn't that they can't, the problem is that they want something that no longer exists, because getting a family and children is the easiest thing in the world (especially in third-world countries like here in Brazil lol), but of course, you'll have to accept the negotiations that are offered:
  • Taking care of someone else's child
  • A partner with a long history
  • State interference in your relationship
  • No authority
Anyway, all these things that these guys, as good idealists, don't want and aren't satisfied with, and that's why many, including the media, say they are incels, but they are not in involuntary celibacy, they may be celibate, but not involuntarily, they are like this due to a demand that the world can no longer satisfy. So, if you want a family and children? The opportunity is out there:

9a3


There are men who have this purpose and desire to start a family so strong that they cope after cope, convincing themselves that a father is someone who raises and that it's okay to raise someone else's child, betraying their own genetic legacy simply because they have no better option and can't live without this purpose or find another one and be satisfied in solitude. So what's left? Accepting that and fighting to convince themselves that they made the right choice, and you see these guys somehow getting by, barely distracted, even though they don't have a good life with financial problems supporting a family that's not even his, but that he took responsibility for, in a dysfunctional relationship that ruins his mental and physical health, a relationship he's not satisfied with. But look, this guy doesn't let go.

This is the man's sense of purpose, the coherent narrative: I have to sacrifice myself because this is my role; I have to do this because if not me, who will take care of these children and the lady? Anyway, he'll drink cope like water, extremely limiting copes because if he simply realizes that this is a creation of his mind that he can abandon and live a freer life, he will certainly build himself up and improve his life (or maybe not, what if he depends so much on this purpose that by distancing himself he falls into such deep depression that he destroys his life, even possibly committing suicide. So yeah, imagine such a miserable existence having only this to feel a taste of living, even though he's suffering).

Usually, guys in relationships, whether bad or good, are not worried about these things because they already have a lot to worry about, giving them a sense of purpose and distraction. So guys who don't want the relationships available to them start feeling this lack of purpose, indignation, and start creating this craziness in their heads, even getting into some Nazi eugenics talk.

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This talk that miscegenation is bad, that it lowers people's IQ, makes them ugly, and worsens humanity is extremely funny to me because it's somewhat schizophrenic (paranoia is quite common in schizophrenia) and not exclusive to pure Europeans. I've even seen heavily mixed Brazilians saying this, which is totally contradictory because if he believed in what he claims, he would be the first to discard himself since he lacks that purity or high IQ, functionality, and beauty that he thinks pure people should have. At most? He'll convince himself that he's intelligent, but he believes in a narrative that makes no sense and is pure pseudoscience, proving that he's actually DUMB and not as smart as he thinks he is. So, if he truly believes that the incapable shouldn't exist, he should be the first to set an example. But as the saying goes: every villain is the hero of their own story, everyone thinks they know exactly what will save the world.

Look at another narrative with a common paranoia in the community: anti-semitism, (((they))) control the world, (((they))) are the biggest owners of porn sites, (((they))) are destroying our world, (((they))) have been expelled from 109 countries and persecuted for 5000 years.

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It's a strawman narrative, blaming a group/people to avoid self-reflection and realizing that it's the people who want this, they prefer degeneration, and have no knowledge of economics, are short-sighted, and prefer to trade their freedom for security (only to end up with neither). It's not any group or people destroying the economy but the general population itself. The (((they))) narrative is an incredible stretch to condense all the world's problems into one thing. And forgive me for saying: but the world is much more complex than that, it's problems are much more complicated. And all this just shows that these guys are trapped in a matrix because the matrix precisely comes with this talk that one thing will solve everything or one thing is the cause of everything. Never in human history has one thing solved everything or been the cause of all problems.

So you see, why does the media keep saying this community is full of Nazis? It's precisely because of this. You might think it's an exaggeration, but they keep repeating this kinda of talk without realizing it.

Per example, the talk that miscegenation is bad because it produces ugly and dumb people. This is just the talk of a guy dissatisfied with promiscuity because he's not part of the party. The guy's problem isn't with promiscuity; the problem is that promiscuity isn't happening with him. So, the guy who complains about promiscuity leading to miscegenation leading to degeneration, etc., is just projecting the desire he has to reproduce in a way he thinks is functional because everyone who comes with this talk thinks they're pure when there's no more genetic purity. Nobody is pure anymore; there are white-skinned people with African blood (and yes, some people even have this talk in extremely mixed countries, lol).


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And why do these guys focus on male communities like this forum?

I find this concern extremely unnecessary, so I hope it's just a passing curiosity. I remember someone wrote a thread like an open letter to an institute saying we're not fascists, etc. But man, why do you care? "Ah, these guys give the community a bad name :feelswah:." :lul:

Stop being so activist-minded; we don't depend on having a good name, and the media controls the narrative and will say whatever they want, and people will believe it, that's it. Any social good that could come from these male communities is already over, if there was ever a chance of something happening.

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The only thing to do then and now is to take what's good for you from here and leave, go live your life without identifying with any label.

So, these guys are in the male community not because it attracts people like that, as the media likes to say, or that the male community consists of men like that with those thoughts. They are guys who, due to inadequacy, ostracism problems, dissatisfaction, and lack of purpose, gather with like-minded people in forums, communities, etc. And these people will be men because men are the ones going through these same problems and symptoms. And as the saying goes, there's no power vacuum, especially in someone's mind; it's also said, if you don't govern yourself, someone else will.

So, the guy has no purpose, no direction, and no self-governance; the human mind, in general, has a demand for this, and if he doesn't satisfy it himself, his mind will start gravitating towards these environments. So, you see, initially the problem is the person and their inadequacy/lack of purpose, not the community. So, it's not like the dishonest media says: it's a qualification process, you enter, everything's fine, a functional citizen, and you're corrupted and degenerated inside, no! The guy already enters degenerated; it's his degeneration that leads him to this environment. And it's much more likely that a degenerated person corrupts the environment than the environment corrupts a functional person.

They say red/blackpill environments are breeding grounds for future perpetrators of so-called incel attacks. But what's funnier is that, for example, in BDSM communities where guys are not involuntary celibates (because it's a sexual-themed community), it's much more common to find aggressors, murderers, and abusers. But of course, this will never be mentioned because it doesn't fit their narrative, completely in dissonance with their narrative. Just like TV always attacked the internet and video games, and look, it only stopped when they found a way to profit from them.

The media is already attacking the community; there are already university studies on these terms (redpill, blackpill, looksmax), always with a bias towards terrorism, that only bad people come from there, and it's full of problems, all those "isms" and "ists" we already know. What I imagine is that soon, especially in countries with stricter laws, this community will end, and using this terminology will become a crime, banned on various social networks, and that's okay! It's easier to create a new term than defend the old one. And if they pursue these? We'll create something else.

Thanks for reading, this thread was taken from .org, all credit goes to @ John Cracovizk

Under liberalism, people have no purpose to live, except just to have fun: to fuck, to buy luxury, to use drugs. Under fascism, there is always a goal to build something or conquer something, to achieve some important indicators for future generations. Collectivism is always better than individualism.
 
Under liberalism, people have no purpose to live, except just to have fun: to fuck, to buy luxury, to use drugs. Under fascism, there is always a goal to build something or conquer something, to achieve some important indicators for future generations. Collectivism is always better than individualism.
True fascism gives a purpose to one’s life, and I agree about collectivism being better than individualism, but why is there such a high amount of these people in blackpill spaces? Why are ugly social reject always the fascist ones? Why?
 
You think there is a middle class in fascism?
Hitler won the election because the middle class voted for him. Hitler himself was from the family of a minor Austrian customs official. The aristocrats despised Hitler for his Plebeian origin and called him a Bavarian corporal. Under Hitler, there was a fucking high birth rate, and people lived much better than in Weimar. Mussolini also came from a middle-class family and also improved the life of the average Italian.
 
Hitler won the election because the middle class voted for him. Hitler himself was from the family of a minor Austrian customs official. The aristocrats despised Hitler for his Plebeian origin and called him a Bavarian corporal. Under Hitler, there was a fucking high birth rate, and people lived much better than in Weimar. Mussolini also came from a middle-class family and also improved the life of the average Italian.
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True fascism gives a purpose to one’s life, and I agree about collectivism being better than individualism, but why is there such a high amount of these people in blackpill spaces? Why are ugly social reject always the fascist ones? Why?
Because under collectivism, whether it was fascism or even God forgive communism, we would fit into society better.
 
What do you think brah
I actually fucked with the post until the author went into miscegenation denial and philosemitic platitudes. Then I rejected it as BS and created a headcanon that the author was a redpill retard. It's that easy, dudes.
 
The whole life of a person in the USSR was painted from the cradle, you graduate from school, go to college or university, join a single party, then serve in the army, then the state itself gives you a workplace where you have to work for 20 years in a row and you will be given housing in the form of an apartment for this.
 
I actually fucked with the post until the author went into miscegenation denial and philosemitic platitudes. Then I rejected it as BS and created a headcanon that the author was a redpill retard. It's that easy, dudes.
:feelsokman: agreed, btw would you say you’re a fascist?
 
:feelsokman: agreed, btw would you say you’re a fascist?
Any collectivism will always defeat individualism. Even the communist countries of Eastern Europe that lived under Soviet occupation had a better birth rate than the countries of Western Europe.
 
True fascism gives a purpose to one’s life, and I agree about collectivism being better than individualism, but why is there such a high amount of these people in blackpill spaces? Why are ugly social reject always the fascist ones? Why?
Because most people don't care to explore fascism beyond "it's a bad thing" because they're preoccupied with work, family, friends, making new experiences, travelling etc... The current political system is good enough for most people, we don't benefit from the current system and so fascism or communism, "extreme" ideologies may be attractive
 
The whole life of a person in the USSR was painted from the cradle, you graduate from school, go to college or university, join a single party, then serve in the army, then the state itself gives you a workplace where you have to work for 20 years in a row and you will be given housing in the form of an apartment for this.
Isn’t that quite a depressing life? Everything is already chosen before you were even born. Are there any data that show suicide/depression rate under communists regim? I think it would be biased but still cool to look at
 
Because most people don't care to explore fascism beyond "it's a bad thing" because they're preoccupied with work, family, friends, making new experiences, travelling etc... The current political system is good enough for most people, we don't benefit from the current system and so fascism or communism, "extreme" ideologies may be attractive
I see
 
Any collectivism will always defeat individualism. Even the communist countries of Eastern Europe that lived under Soviet occupation had a better birth rate than the countries of Western Europe.
But that’s only about birth rate, in other much more important aspects to one’s life, western ideologies were much better. Economy wise western world was billion times better. I think for the average joe western liberal ideologies are better to live under than strict authoritarian regimes
 
Within the blackpill community, one of the most interesting types of users to me are the fascists and the alt-right. They don't make up 100% of the blackpill community (most here couldn't care less about politics, even though some do share some ideals), but they are an interesting case study to understand a bit more about the male mindset. These users like to fantasize about fascist societies, and absolutist governments, and even talk about genetic purity.

It's not uncommon for them to fantasize about an ideal world and how it would be politically and socially. This often correlates with a more traditional conservative mindset (more common than it seems among users here), someone very idealistic and emotionally involved with the world. They believe things need to change and, within the male community, there's this notion that men are better suited for leadership in political involvement. This is utterly trivial, a waste of time on politics and concerns about a society that is nothing more than a reality show for people to purposefully distract themselves from their own lives.

Then our dear political science student will quote Plato's phrase: "The man who does not care for politics is destined to be governed by those who do." But look, this phrase is a huge anachronism. Plato lived in a completely different time and environment from ours. What Plato understood as politics is nowhere near what we have today, which is neither a democracy nor a republic. Just ask around if people feel represented by the politicians in power or if they feel their voices are heard as citizens, and most importantly, ask them how much they understand about politics. The answer will usually be around 60, 70, or 80 percent; some might say more, but just ask what the role of a senator is or what a congressman does, and you'll catch the person in their own ignorance.

So yeah, there are many guys in our community distracting themselves from the only thing that matters: their own lives, to pay attention to political reality shows. It's clear that this is a huge distraction when you notice people discussing politics, but not for the greater good. They are at most doing it to feel heard and to feel right in an argument, satisfying their own ego just to turn off their computer after the discussion on Twitter or another social network and distract themselves a bit. Politics is merely entertainment; it's nothing more than people trying to convince themselves that this entertainment is somehow important for their own future and the future of others, for the future of the nation.

But that's the biggest lie. Wasting time talking about how you imagine the world should be won't solve anything in your life or anyone else's life. That's the harsh truth; politicians will make decisions they want regardless of individual opinions. They benefit greatly from this confusion, from this distraction of people wasting time with idle talk, having debates live for others to watch, and in the end, we see that this never brings about change, neither in government nor in culture. If politicians knew about this, which they don't and don't care about, they'd laugh at it all. And the worst part is that many in our community are aware of this and some get upset about issues like corruption and crime, for example.

So, what's the magical solution many men here come up with?

That's right! A totalitarian government, what a genius!

So, is the true blackpill :blackpill: fascism?

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Okay, there's a crowd that jokes about the term on Twitter and elsewhere because it really annoys some people (ur... a fascist :feelswah:), so it's become a meme, just like the word "incel :incel:" that normies use to call anyone who displeases or criticizes women.

Fascism nowadays is basically anyone who isn't far-left, and the media has also done us this favor, so screw it, it's used a lot in memes. But yes, there is a group that genuinely believes in it. They believe that a strong, centralized, regimented government with male leadership will save the world and give them what they want, what they imagine. These individuals feel socially ostracized, poorly represented or not represented at all, and they imagine that if their ideology somehow wins, they'll have the world they've always wanted. This usually involves talk of a traditional family, living in the countryside with private sovereignty, access to firearms in a strong, sovereign, and functional society.

You can see how this guy has a fantasized mind; it's as simple as that. He starts creating what's known as a wonderland. Men are very idealistic; they are doers by nature, and before they get their hands dirty, they will plan, and this planning comes instinctively, emotionally, through involvement with this plan, this idea, almost compulsively. The guy can't settle and keeps this world in his head, starting to express it and trying to create something. This principle is observable in trades like woodworking, carpentry, and so on, typically male trades.

However, the guy can get too fanatical about these ideas and end up losing himself in them, creating a new matrix.

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Then the guy says that the real blackpill is fascism because "when one understands the real power of man, which is destined for greatness," a huge cope, an attempt to reaffirm himself and deal with his own obsolescence and lack of purpose. With arguments that the role of men is to lead and that strong male leadership in a centralized power would be best for all men and the nation in general. As we discuss and study in these communities, we conclude that the best way to raise functional individuals is through the nuclear family, which brings traditional gender roles and male leadership within the home.

And then, see, he concludes that he has to put a guy with these ideas in great power (or totalitarian) to make these plans happen. What does he want? Basically, a daddy who has the same ideas as him to save him from degeneration or the unsatisfying world. It's clear inconsistency to use a term like redpill or blackpill to discern a fascist government because it's nothing more than a matrix. In fascist, totalitarian governments (or any traditional-conservative ideology), men are treated like workhorses. Fascist governments are usually extremely militarized and warlike, and who goes to war? Yep, men.


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So you see, anyone who agrees with this idea also agrees with the ideology that condemns himself and other men to a servile life. And see, this is a matrix because fascism comes from the "bundle of rods," famous "strength in unity," and this is extremely matrix-like as the movie shows: where Neo worked at the metacortex company, he arrives late, and the boss says the following: if an employee does poorly, the company does poorly. Suggesting precisely that if you're not useful to the bundle of rods, you'll be discarded.

And as this is a completely regimented state, guys who don't marry or produce more than what's needed or who aren't servile will be discarded, probably in a much more violent way than men suffer in today's society. In our community, if you ask them, they'll criticize fascism and traditional conservatism, but a quick chat with the guy? You'll see his mind is full of these ideologies, really believing that men are destined for greatness and made to lead. If this were true, why aren't men leading society anymore? Why aren't men in a state of greatness today?

Firstly, these guys who say this study history from standout men, powerful men like Napoleon, modern and classical leaders, but they're observing from the exception, disregarding the men who shed their own blood and that of others to put these guys in power. And look how funny, this logic hasn't changed. The difference is precisely where it reigns; today we live in a much more mercantilized, more capitalist empire, but we still maintain the logic: few men in power using the work (and even life) of the men at the base, the overwhelming majority.

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You know what's funniest?

These men say that men are no longer in leadership, and today we live in the safest and most comfortable society that has ever existed. Technically, shouldn't men be more in charge in today's times than they once were? But they're not, proving precisely that men are not destined for leadership; they are destined to fix and sustain a comfortable society. The moment society becomes comfortable, men become obsolete and lose their leadership, their supposed destiny for greatness. As has been said many times: "Strong men create easy times, easy times create weak men, weak men create hard times, and hard times create strong men."

So, you see, strength, leadership, and the destiny for greatness of men are concentrated only in strong men who are focused only on hard times, which are transformed into easy times by strong men, but for the weak men who destroy it and repeat the cycle. And now I ask you, why would you worry about social functionality, something so alien to you, when in fact you are just wasting resources that could be invested in yourself for an inevitable purpose: hard times and weak men?

This usually stems from male social ostracism, dissatisfaction, and a general lack of purpose often due to an inability to get a perfect girlfriend. Lack of attention and sexual relevance that they think they deserve, just look at these guys' arguments, pro-traditional family, wanting a "honorable" woman and children. The problem isn't that they can't, the problem is that they want something that no longer exists, because getting a family and children is the easiest thing in the world (especially in third-world countries like here in Brazil lol), but of course, you'll have to accept the negotiations that are offered:
  • Taking care of someone else's child
  • A partner with a long history
  • State interference in your relationship
  • No authority
Anyway, all these things that these guys, as good idealists, don't want and aren't satisfied with, and that's why many, including the media, say they are incels, but they are not in involuntary celibacy, they may be celibate, but not involuntarily, they are like this due to a demand that the world can no longer satisfy. So, if you want a family and children? The opportunity is out there:

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There are men who have this purpose and desire to start a family so strong that they cope after cope, convincing themselves that a father is someone who raises and that it's okay to raise someone else's child, betraying their own genetic legacy simply because they have no better option and can't live without this purpose or find another one and be satisfied in solitude. So what's left? Accepting that and fighting to convince themselves that they made the right choice, and you see these guys somehow getting by, barely distracted, even though they don't have a good life with financial problems supporting a family that's not even his, but that he took responsibility for, in a dysfunctional relationship that ruins his mental and physical health, a relationship he's not satisfied with. But look, this guy doesn't let go.

This is the man's sense of purpose, the coherent narrative: I have to sacrifice myself because this is my role; I have to do this because if not me, who will take care of these children and the lady? Anyway, he'll drink cope like water, extremely limiting copes because if he simply realizes that this is a creation of his mind that he can abandon and live a freer life, he will certainly build himself up and improve his life (or maybe not, what if he depends so much on this purpose that by distancing himself he falls into such deep depression that he destroys his life, even possibly committing suicide. So yeah, imagine such a miserable existence having only this to feel a taste of living, even though he's suffering).

Usually, guys in relationships, whether bad or good, are not worried about these things because they already have a lot to worry about, giving them a sense of purpose and distraction. So guys who don't want the relationships available to them start feeling this lack of purpose, indignation, and start creating this craziness in their heads, even getting into some Nazi eugenics talk.

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This talk that miscegenation is bad, that it lowers people's IQ, makes them ugly, and worsens humanity is extremely funny to me because it's somewhat schizophrenic (paranoia is quite common in schizophrenia) and not exclusive to pure Europeans. I've even seen heavily mixed Brazilians saying this, which is totally contradictory because if he believed in what he claims, he would be the first to discard himself since he lacks that purity or high IQ, functionality, and beauty that he thinks pure people should have. At most? He'll convince himself that he's intelligent, but he believes in a narrative that makes no sense and is pure pseudoscience, proving that he's actually DUMB and not as smart as he thinks he is. So, if he truly believes that the incapable shouldn't exist, he should be the first to set an example. But as the saying goes: every villain is the hero of their own story, everyone thinks they know exactly what will save the world.

Look at another narrative with a common paranoia in the community: anti-semitism, (((they))) control the world, (((they))) are the biggest owners of porn sites, (((they))) are destroying our world, (((they))) have been expelled from 109 countries and persecuted for 5000 years.

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It's a strawman narrative, blaming a group/people to avoid self-reflection and realizing that it's the people who want this, they prefer degeneration, and have no knowledge of economics, are short-sighted, and prefer to trade their freedom for security (only to end up with neither). It's not any group or people destroying the economy but the general population itself. The (((they))) narrative is an incredible stretch to condense all the world's problems into one thing. And forgive me for saying: but the world is much more complex than that, it's problems are much more complicated. And all this just shows that these guys are trapped in a matrix because the matrix precisely comes with this talk that one thing will solve everything or one thing is the cause of everything. Never in human history has one thing solved everything or been the cause of all problems.

So you see, why does the media keep saying this community is full of Nazis? It's precisely because of this. You might think it's an exaggeration, but they keep repeating this kinda of talk without realizing it.

Per example, the talk that miscegenation is bad because it produces ugly and dumb people. This is just the talk of a guy dissatisfied with promiscuity because he's not part of the party. The guy's problem isn't with promiscuity; the problem is that promiscuity isn't happening with him. So, the guy who complains about promiscuity leading to miscegenation leading to degeneration, etc., is just projecting the desire he has to reproduce in a way he thinks is functional because everyone who comes with this talk thinks they're pure when there's no more genetic purity. Nobody is pure anymore; there are white-skinned people with African blood (and yes, some people even have this talk in extremely mixed countries, lol).


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And why do these guys focus on male communities like this forum?

I find this concern extremely unnecessary, so I hope it's just a passing curiosity. I remember someone wrote a thread like an open letter to an institute saying we're not fascists, etc. But man, why do you care? "Ah, these guys give the community a bad name :feelswah:." :lul:

Stop being so activist-minded; we don't depend on having a good name, and the media controls the narrative and will say whatever they want, and people will believe it, that's it. Any social good that could come from these male communities is already over, if there was ever a chance of something happening.

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The only thing to do then and now is to take what's good for you from here and leave, go live your life without identifying with any label.

So, these guys are in the male community not because it attracts people like that, as the media likes to say, or that the male community consists of men like that with those thoughts. They are guys who, due to inadequacy, ostracism problems, dissatisfaction, and lack of purpose, gather with like-minded people in forums, communities, etc. And these people will be men because men are the ones going through these same problems and symptoms. And as the saying goes, there's no power vacuum, especially in someone's mind; it's also said, if you don't govern yourself, someone else will.

So, the guy has no purpose, no direction, and no self-governance; the human mind, in general, has a demand for this, and if he doesn't satisfy it himself, his mind will start gravitating towards these environments. So, you see, initially the problem is the person and their inadequacy/lack of purpose, not the community. So, it's not like the dishonest media says: it's a qualification process, you enter, everything's fine, a functional citizen, and you're corrupted and degenerated inside, no! The guy already enters degenerated; it's his degeneration that leads him to this environment. And it's much more likely that a degenerated person corrupts the environment than the environment corrupts a functional person.

They say red/blackpill environments are breeding grounds for future perpetrators of so-called incel attacks. But what's funnier is that, for example, in BDSM communities where guys are not involuntary celibates (because it's a sexual-themed community), it's much more common to find aggressors, murderers, and abusers. But of course, this will never be mentioned because it doesn't fit their narrative, completely in dissonance with their narrative. Just like TV always attacked the internet and video games, and look, it only stopped when they found a way to profit from them.

The media is already attacking the community; there are already university studies on these terms (redpill, blackpill, looksmax), always with a bias towards terrorism, that only bad people come from there, and it's full of problems, all those "isms" and "ists" we already know. What I imagine is that soon, especially in countries with stricter laws, this community will end, and using this terminology will become a crime, banned on various social networks, and that's okay! It's easier to create a new term than defend the old one. And if they pursue these? We'll create something else.

Thanks for reading, this thread was taken from .org, all credit goes to @ John Cracovizk

Fascism and communism also provide huge career growth. Under communism or fascism, a person can become everything from nothing. All prominent figures of the USSR were from a working-class or peasant background. Even under Nazism, many losers could join the party and build a career in it as an official. Goebbels was a failed writer. Goering was an ace pilot who was kicked out of the army due to the reduction of the Air Force. Musolini worked as an ordinary history teacher and journalist. Himmler was an ordinary farmer, etc.
 
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But that’s only about birth rate, in other much more important aspects to one’s life, western ideologies were much better. Economy wise western world was billion times better. I think for the average joe western liberal ideologies are better to live under than strict authoritarian regimes
In today's West, you can only make a career through the army if you don't have rich parents or luck.
 
But that’s only about birth rate, in other much more important aspects to one’s life, western ideologies were much better. Economy wise western world was billion times better. I think for the average joe western liberal ideologies are better to live under than strict authoritarian regimes
The birth rate is the main indicator of human happiness in a particular society. If a country can have a birth rate of at least 2.1, then it is healthy. If you have 0.7 as in South Korea, then you are fucked.
 
In today's West, you can only make a career through the army if you don't have rich parents or luck.
Nah imo you’re coping, today’s western countries often offer numerous scholarships, grants, and financial aid options that enable people from various economical backgrounds to access higher education which in return should hopefully give you access to a much better life. Community colleges and state universities provide an affordable way to access multiple different carriers. Liberal democracies also foster an environment where entrepreneurship is often encouraged and supported, not in a single ideology is it as easy to start your own business. People can start their own businesses with relatively low barriers to entry, and there are various programs and resources available to support small businesses and startups.
 
The birth rate is the main indicator of human happiness in a particular society. If a country can have a birth rate of at least 2.1, then it is healthy. If you have 0.7 as in South Korea, then you are fucked.
It is a flowed indicator, I’m pretty sure the average South Korean family is much happier than the Niger ones who have a high birth rate
 
Dnr, more normfag coping

I want to live in a homogenous society with no degenerates & with a controlled economy.
Tbh, pretty funny OP put all the effort into writing this kike essay and nobody is bothering to read it, kek
 
:feelsokman: agreed, btw would you say you’re a fascist?
Yeah I'm a fascist. Idk which country's fascism to choose though, since I'm a multinational cosmopolitan. I guess I have to follow the one in the country I reside in.
 
Nah imo you’re coping, today’s western countries often offer numerous scholarships, grants, and financial aid options that enable people from various economical backgrounds to access higher education which in return should hopefully give you access to a much better life. Community colleges and state universities provide an affordable way to access multiple different carriers. Liberal democracies also foster an environment where entrepreneurship is often encouraged and supported, not in a single ideology is it as easy to start your own business. People can start their own businesses with relatively low barriers to entry, and there are various programs and resources available to support small businesses and startups.
Jfl, this system encourages capitalist exploitation since only richfags benefit from this

and jfl thinking modern universities are anything but propaganda.
 
Yeah I'm a fascist. Idk which country's fascism to choose though, since I'm a multinational cosmopolitan. I guess I have to follow the one in the country I reside in.
Based
 
Yeah I'm a fascist. Idk which country's fascism to choose though, since I'm a multinational cosmopolitan. I guess I have to follow the one in the country I reside in.
Alr
 
Because I dont agree with any kind of politics or modern bullshit. Humans were only truly happy when they lived in nature. Today we are so degenerated that there is no point in anything humans were never meant to live like we live today
 
Nice copy pasted thread:

There’s no point in offering this post a rebuttal if it’s not even your own thoughts
 

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