Even if you aren't a subhuman getting a gf is nigh impossible

[Deleted member 306]

Of course, nowdays sub 8=subhuman but let's assume you are a guy in the 5/6.5 range. It would be very difficult to get a gf for the following reasons:

1. Girls are less than guys

2. Most girls are taken and even the ones that aren't already have potential bfs/fbs/fwbs

3. The majority of females in your proximity, if not all, will be taken

4. You have to wait an indefinite amount of time till one of them breaks up or decides to have a polyamorous relationship

5. You have to act quickly and get a date with her

6. By the time you go out with her, her standards will have exceeded your capabilities so the date will just be one big joke. While you were single for months, she was having sex and trying different things with her bf during that time so it's only natural that she wants a guy who has an equal or more amount of sexual activity. Females are biologically programmed to sense your sexual activity. She will understand you were celibate and that will put her off.

7. Your effort was in vain and now you have to wait for an indefinite amount of time again for an opportunity to be presented. And while you are waiting and rotting, Chad and guys with gfs are having lustful sex with their women .

8. You are in your 30s now and it seems like all the girls in your proximity who were in LTRs have now married their bfs. You are seen as the creepy oldcel and you are ostracized from your social circles because you are considered a bad influence and a potential threat for your friends's children.

 

[Framecel222]

Pure cope. Don't pretend that the average guy is an incel.

 

[Deleted member 306]

Pure cope. Don't pretend that the average guy is an incel.

I didn't say the average guy is an incel. I said that it's diffcult to get a gf as an average looking guy.

 

[Framecel222]

I didn't say the average guy is an incel. I said that it's diffcult to get a gf as an average looking guy.

Well since they all manage to do it, clearly it isn't that hard for most people.

 

[NekoStance]

The ratio pill is a massive blackpill

 

[Deleted member 306]

Well since they all manage to do it, clearly it isn't that hard for most people.

What if you break up?

 

[NekoStance]

Pure cope. Don't pretend that the average guy is an incel.

The average guy might get pussy here and there

But I think it's fair to call many average guys incel these days, 80/20 is enforced worse than it has been in a long time

 

[Framecel222]

What if you break up?

Then they find a new partner like every other normie. No offense but when's the last time you went outside? I don't see how all of this isn't obvious to you at this point. Real life experience shows that normies have no problem getting a girlfriend, regardless of what your hypothesis might suggest. 

The average guy might get pussy here and there

But I think it's fair to call many average guys incel these days, 80/20 is enforced worse than it has been in a long time

If someone gets pussy "here and there" then they're not even close to incel lmao.

Pretty much anyone in the normie Range (PSLI 4-6) is an incel if they are blackpilled. The only real ways to get laid at this level is to:

A) escortcel 

b) Go for 3 points below your looksmax

C) get in a relationship and end up jumping through hoops and eventually getting cucked 

In the high tier normie Range (PSLI 6) you may be able to occasionally get lucky and slay normie tier girls or even the odd Stacylite but you need relatively high S to do so on the regular.  

Most normies that aren’t blackpilled end up picking option C so it will look like they’re not incel when really they’re just getting cucked so they’re no better off than us.

Some of us here may go for option B but you need really high T to be attracted to those types of femoids

Another classic cope. "Normies are getting cheated on so their lives are basically as bad as ours." Getting cheated on is not worse than being incel. Considering you're not an incel I'm not surprised that you're unable to grasp this.

 

[AngelOfDisease]

Pure cope. Don't pretend that the average guy is an incel.

This.

Your average normie is not incel. Broadening what incel means is cope. 

"but he gets less pussy than chad", "he gets cucked", "he has to work harder" - Still not incel.

 

[Framecel222]

This.

Your average normie is not incel. Broadening what incel means is cope. 

"but he gets less pussy than chad", "he gets cucked", "he has to work harder" - Still not incel.

Exactly, these guys seem to think that anyone who can't walk into a bar and fuck Stacy without saying a word is an incel. It's total cope.

Getting cucked is only not worse if they are blissfully unaware of it. Even then, do you really think that having to go through a plethora of shit tests, put up with her complaints, but her ritzy stuff and give her loads of attention just to get some reluctant sex that lacks any genuine attraction or validation is better than being incel? Completely not. Many beta cucks have had their lives completely ruined by divorce BS and having to pay child support. It’s no life to be envious of.

Stop conflating marriage with relationships. And yes I would put up with shit tests and complaints over rotting alone, are you kidding me.

Also, to pretend that every normie relationship has 0 attraction or validation is just more cope. You need to stop coping. The sooner you accept that normie lives are 1000x times better than incel lives, the sooner you can stop making yourself look silly by publicly posting these delusions.

If you’re blackpilled, your focus should’ve on slaying and not relationships. I’ve said this many times but relationships are a scam in 2017.

Most of us have 0 chance of slaying even with looksmaxing. For someone like me, LTR game is my only hope of escaping inceldom. You're again showing that you're not really an incel. No truecel would even entertain the thought of becoming a slayer.

 

[Framecel222]

The end goal of relationships is usually marriage which is why I conflate them. 

Personally I think rotting alone is far better than listening to some whining jaded bitch constantly demand stuff from me whilst she just fucks a Chadlite on the side with no strings attached. Most normie relationships are exceptionally one sided with the femoid feeling little to no attraction to her partner. Why would she be attracted to you when sex with Chad is just a fingerswipe away?

Also you’re solid normie tier and could looksmax to Chadlite status and slay, that should be your goal. People only think looksmaxing is limited because they are not willing to go to the extreme and take drastic actions and get invasive surgeries. All or nothing theory.

What is your source for this dreary picture your painting of every normie relationship? That is not at all what I've seen and all my normie friends are satisfied with their relationships (inb4 "they're just pretending to be okay, they actually contemplate suicide every day!")

And there's no way in hell I could reach chadlite status or slay. My goal is to surgerymax, skinmax, and gymcel until I become good enough to LTR a 6/10 female. That's my only chance. Slaying is out of the question with my genetics.

 

[Grotesque]

Relationships in 2017 do not exist.

If a female finds you attractive, she wants to fuck. The only question is if she can physically cheat with a reasonable expectation to not get caught.

 

[Captvic]

If you still want a GF in 2017 you are still bluepill. You should just want FWBs

 

[Bushladen008]

Marriage does work but you must marry a non-white,virgin, and get her pregnant as soon as possible. Let me explain , whites have crazy divorces rates, a non virgin is more likely to cuck you, without children it's easier for her to leave.

 

[nausea]

Pretty much anyone in the normie Range (PSLI 4-6) is an incel if they are blackpilled. The only real ways to get laid at this level is to:

A) escortcel 

b) Go for 3 points below your looksmax

C) get in a relationship and end up jumping through hoops and eventually getting cucked 

In the high tier normie Range (PSLI 6) you may be able to occasionally get lucky and slay normie tier girls or even the odd Stacylite but you need relatively high S to do so on the regular.  

Most normies that aren’t blackpilled end up picking option C so it will look like they’re not incel when really they’re just getting cucked so they’re no better off than us.

Some of us here may go for option B but you need really high T to be attracted to those types of femoids

this

please some kind soul hand me the rope NOW

 

[Deleted member 306]

Then they find a new partner like every other normie. No offense but when's the last time you went outside? I don't see how all of this isn't obvious to you at this point. Real life experience shows that normies have no problem getting a girlfriend, regardless of what your hypothesis might suggest. 


If someone gets pussy "here and there" then they're not even close to incel lmao.


Another classic cope. "Normies are getting cheated on so their lives are basically as bad as ours." Getting cheated on is not worse than being incel. Considering you're not an incel I'm not surprised that you're unable to grasp this.

If they didn't have problems getting a gf then dry spells wouldn't be a thing. Don't glorify normiehood.

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Relationships in 2017 do not exist.

If a female finds you attractive, she wants to fuck. The only question is if she can physically cheat with a reasonable expectation to not get caught.

The term "relationship" is kinda dumb anyway because people in relationships do not  say "I'm in a relationship". They just say "I have a bf/hg" to imply that they have a willing sexual partner.

 

[Grotesque]

They'll only say they have a bf/husband when they're not interested in you.

 

[Deleted member 306]

They'll only say they have a bf/husband when they're not interested in you.

According to research, at least 90% of women are in relationships.

 

[albinorat]

Of course, nowdays sub 8=subhuman but let's assume you are a guy in the 5/6.5 range. It would be very difficult to get a gf for the following reasons:

1. Girls are less than guys

2. Most girls are taken and even the ones that aren't already have potential bfs/fbs/fwbs

3. The majority of females in your proximity, if not all, will be taken

4. You have to wait an indefinite amount of time till one of them breaks up or decides to have a polyamorous relationship

5. You have to act quickly and get a date with her

6. By the time you go out with her, her standards will have exceeded your capabilities so the date will just be one big joke. While you were single for months, she was having sex and trying different things with her bf during that time so it's only natural that she wants a guy who has an equal or more amount of sexual activity. Females are biologically programmed to sense your sexual activity. She will understand you were celibate and that will put her off.

7. Your effort was in vain and now you have to wait for an indefinite amount of time again for an opportunity to be presented. And while you are waiting and rotting, Chad and guys with gfs are having lustful sex with their women .

8. You are in your 30s now and it seems like all the girls in your proximity who were in LTRs have now married their bfs. You are seen as the creepy oldcel and you are ostracized from your social circles because you are considered a bad influence and a potential threat for your friends's children.

Man, this is depressing. This list pretty much sums up my experience with the opposite sex. I am a loser.

 

[Deleted member 306]

Man, this is depressing. This list pretty much sums up my experience with the opposite sex. I am a loser.

You are not a loser. You just had bad luck. Everything in life is luck based. There is no sense of sense in this world.

 

[nausea]

You are not a loser. You just had bad luck. Everything in life is luck based. There is no sense of sense in this world.

all this mating stuff it's just a biochemical reaction in the brain, everyone follows it

 

[Deleted member 306]

all this mating stuff it's just a biochemical reaction in the brain, everyone follows it

This is correct. However, getting in the mating game requires certain genes and you don't get to choose those.

 

[BlackPill47]

Brutal Black Pill. It's so fucking over for sub-8 men.

 

[Deleted member 306]

Brutal Black Pill. It's so fucking over for sub-8 men.

In this life you either mog or get mogged.

 

[universallyabhorred]

If you are ethnic and average it is over, if you are White and average maybe you can date an ugly land whale occasionally fuck it then get cucked.

 

[Oodar]

Then they find a new partner like every other normie. No offense but when's the last time you went outside? I don't see how all of this isn't obvious to you at this point. Real life experience shows that normies have no problem getting a girlfriend, regardless of what your hypothesis might suggest. 


If someone gets pussy "here and there" then they're not even close to incel lmao.


Another classic cope. "Normies are getting cheated on so their lives are basically as bad as ours." Getting cheated on is not worse than being incel. Considering you're not an incel I'm not surprised that you're unable to grasp this.

Shortsighted and delusional to not consider most relationships end up with unwanted child and divorce or unhappy living arrangements for everyone involved.

Its probably better at first for normies who occasionally have sex, but you arent looking at the big picture. Kids almost always end up being had. Nobody wants to be alone, but life for almost all normies in 2017 is miserable and will only get worse.

 

[Sub8Hate]

Fucking a broad is so much work if you're average. Being overweight makes it worse lol.
It's possible but fucking arduous.

 

[Framecel222]

Shortsighted and delusional to not consider most relationships end up with unwanted child and divorce or unhappy living arrangements for everyone involved.

Its probably better at first for normies who occasionally have sex, but you arent looking at the big picture. Kids almost always end up being had. Nobody wants to be alone, but life for almost all normies in 2017 is miserable and will only get worse.

LMFAO WHAT?! Most relationships result in kids? Holy fuck you must live under a rock.

That literally couldn't be further from the truth, especially at my age (19.)

It's time for you to stop coping.

 

[FACEandLMS]

Exactly, these guys seem to think that anyone who can't walk into a bar and fuck Stacy without saying a word is an incel. It's total cope.


Stop conflating marriage with relationships. And yes I would put up with shit tests and complaints over rotting alone, are you kidding me.

Also, to pretend that every normie relationship has 0 attraction or validation is just more cope. You need to stop coping. The sooner you accept that normie lives are 1000x times better than incel lives, the sooner you can stop making yourself look silly by publicly posting these delusions.


Most of us have 0 chance of slaying even with looksmaxing. For someone like me, LTR game is my only hope of escaping inceldom. You're again showing that you're not really an incel. No truecel would even entertain the thought of becoming a slayer.

What a reasoned post. You sound like you have experience of life beyond what you read on incel forums.

You have to bare in mind that Sparky is 18 yo or some shit and has no real world experience, yet feels able to comment on modern-day relationships. He isn't even incel. You aren't incel at fucking 18 yo unless you are legit low-sub5. If you are in the 5-7 zone or above (I'm willing to bet Sparky falls inside this zone), are 18 yo and think you're incel, it's not because entirely because of your looks.

It's the standardscels and young guys here who fall for the slayer meme. We legit ugly guys just want an average gf.

 

[WhoDisFam]

Pretty much anyone in the normie Range (PSLI 4-6) is an incel if they are blackpilled. The only real ways to get laid at this level is to:

A) escortcel 

b) Go for 3 points below your looksmax

C) get in a relationship and end up jumping through hoops and eventually getting cucked 

In the high tier normie Range (PSLI 6) you may be able to occasionally get lucky and slay normie tier girls or even the odd Stacylite but you need relatively high S to do so on the regular.  

Most normies that aren’t blackpilled end up picking option C so it will look like they’re not incel when really they’re just getting cucked so they’re no better off than us.

Some of us here may go for option B but you need really high T to be attracted to those types of femoids

Nope, I know at least 3 friends who score no more than 5.5 and have girfriends that are in similar look ranges. One of them even said she approached him and he's a semi-short indian dude and the chick looked pretty good. You say other things are a cope but your post is literally the definition of cope.