Blackpill Even if girls gave you their number it wouldn't help you.

[virgin4life]

Let's just say girls finally gave you their numbers. Now keep in mind girls start having sex at 12, 13. At 25 they have been with 5-10 guys if they belong to the less slutty girls. So now if you had their number and even if she went on a date with you...it would not help you at all.

You would be sitting there not knowing what to do. You have the experience of a 10 year old boy so what would you even say? Probably something like: "Hu hu...uhm...nice...uhm...nice weather, isn't it?" She would smell your virginity in like 10 seconds and any attraction she may have had would be gone in a second.

But even if the date went good, she liked you, wanted to go on a second date with you...even then you would not know how to get from talking about the weather to seducing her, kissing her etc. After three or four dates she would sort you in under the friend zone category.

But hey let's even say you managed to have several dates, you managed to seduce her, kiss her etc. Let's even say you managed to fuck her. You would never be able to have a relationship with her. The first time you watch TV together and see something about feminism you may say something that she may find irritating and make clear to her that you were an incel. And then it would be over. You can not hide your true identity for years.

This is why it is ultimately over for us. Not because we don't get numbers. Our problem goes FAR, FAR beyond that!!!!

 

[Zaetheus]

I got a femoid number once .... it was fake lmao

In hindsight I should’ve called right in front of her .

 

[Weightcel]

She would smell your virginity in like 10 seconds

 

[StormlitAqua]

Spoiler: hope this isn't bragging

A "girl" (she's 25 JFL) gave me her number recently (it was completely random, never met her in my life). We went on a "date" and she ghosted me after. On the date, she said "You've never had a GF have you" and I told her I haven't. She more or less accused me of having autism (she's correct). She actually met me and instantly wasn't interested. I cannot make up for 23 years of inexperience. She spent most of the "date" laughing at my expense and criticizing me JFL.

Mods, please remove if this is considered bragging.

You are 100% right. Nothing I do can change the fact that I have never had a positive experience with a woman.

 

[Fluorine's_Sin_20]

Let's just say girls finally gave you their numbers. Now keep in mind girls start having sex at 12, 13. At 25 they have been with 5-10 guys if they belong to the less slutty girls. So now if you had their number and even if she went on a date with you...it would not help you at all.

You would be sitting there not knowing what to do. You have the experience of a 10 year old boy so what would you even say? Probably something like: "Hu hu...uhm...nice...uhm...nice weather, isn't it?" She would smell your virginity in like 10 seconds and any attraction she may have had would be gone in a second.

But even if the date went good, she liked you, wanted to go on a second date with you...even then you would not know how to get from talking about the weather to seducing her, kissing her etc. After three or four dates she would sort you in under the friend zone category.

But hey let's even say you managed to have several dates, you managed to seduce her, kiss her etc. Let's even say you managed to fuck her. You would never be able to have a relationship with her. The first time you watch TV together and see something about feminism you may say something that she may find irritating and make clear to her that you were an incel. And then it would be over. You can not hide your true identity for years.

This is why it is ultimately over for us. Not because we don't get numbers. Our problem goes FAR, FAR beyond that!!!!

THAT'S FOR FUCKING SURE!!!!!
being an incel, is almost like a religion(are we the modern monks?)
- the worst thing about being in inceldom, is that we are every day mocked by media, that shows us the hated chad.
it makes us feel stupid and ugly/not wanted by the opposite sex, our self-esteem is at stake here.
and to be honest, what we need is a revoulotion of some sort, like a group in society that could HELP us to get a date and teach us how to NOT seem like a moron around women!

 

[virgin4life]

Spoiler: hope this isn't bragging

A "girl" (she's 25 JFL) gave me her number recently (it was completely random, never met her in my life). We went on a "date" and she ghosted me after. On the date, she said "You've never had a GF have you" and I told her I haven't. She more or less accused me of having autism (she's correct). She actually met me and instantly wasn't interested. I cannot make up for 23 years of inexperience. She spent most of the "date" laughing at my expense and criticizing me JFL.

Mods, please remove if this is considered bragging.

You are 100% right. Nothing I do can change the fact that I have never had a positive experience with a woman.

I have made a similar experience as you. I also hope it doesn't qualify as bragging.

Spoiler: hope this isn't bragging

Two dates from a Tinder like app. Both girls laughed at me for stuttering and told me to GTFO after like 10 minutes.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

She more or less accused me of having autism (she's correct). She actually met me and instantly wasn't interested. I cannot make up for 23 years of inexperience. She spent most of the "date" laughing at my expense and criticizing me JFL.

FUARK how is this possible are we autists that bad? I mean how? I am doomed I have a high IQ but I am neet and I am not eloquent unlike you (besides my bad english, I guess).

I mean she saw your pictures and classified you as attractive before the date or not?

Go into detail please. If necessary per PM.

I really need to take every ressource I can get to NT maxx.

 

[virgin4life]

THAT'S FOR FUCKING SURE!!!!!
being an incel, is almost like a religion(are we the modern monks?)
- the worst thing about being in inceldom, is that we are every day mocked by media, that shows us the hated chad.
it makes us feel stupid and ugly/not wanted by the opposite sex, our self-esteem is at stake here.
and to be honest, what we need is a revoulotion of some sort, like a group in society that could HELP us to get a date and teach us how to NOT seem like a moron around women!

Only if it is true what the blackpill says then we may never be successful at dating women simply because we are unattractive.

Spoiler: hope this isn't bragging

Both girls I met later wrote me that they knew I was not attractive to them within 10 seconds of seeing me. So no coaching on earth would have helped me.

 

[CopingGymcel]

How would a girl giving me her number not help me? So stupid. You're to pessimistic.

 

[virgin4life]

How would a girl giving me her number not help me? So stupid.

Because it is like level 1 out of 100 levels. And if you have failed at level 1 for a decade of trying then rest assured you won't make it through the other 99 levels.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Both girls laughed at me for stuttering and told me to GTFO after like 10 minutes.[/SPOILER]

The stuttering is from anxiety or a speech-language pathologic problem? I am not familar with this stuff.

Both girls I met later wrote me that they knew I was not attractive to them within 10 seconds of seeing me. So no coaching on earth would have helped me.

You had no photos?

 

[SupremeG]

Yep, and even if you somehow impress her and she wants to be your girlfriend. She will soon start bitching around about any small errors coming from you like wrong questions, topics or errors you do in the household. All because you can't satisfy her with your sub existence.

 

[virgin4life]

The stuttering is from anxiety or linguistic problem?

anxiety. But it didn't matter. They told me later I was unattractive to them 10 seconds after we met. And I could sense that during the dates.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Because it is like level 1 out of 100 levels. And if you have failed at level 1 for a decade of trying then rest assured you won't make it through the other 99 levels.

You're making no sense.

You go on the date, put on an act, try to make a good impression and escalate. Sure, it will be hard, but you've just got to go for it.

Yep, and even if you somehow impress her and she wants to be your girlfriend. She will soon start bitching around about any small errors coming from you like wrong questions, topics or errors you do in the household. All because you can't satisfy her with your sub existence.

That's like every relationship out there past the first few months.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Well I'm not a mentalcel, and I'm low enough inhib, so if I can fix my appearance enough I can ascend. Theoretically.

 

[virgin4life]

You're making no sense.

You go on the date, put on an act, try to make a good impression and escalate. Sure, it will be hard, but you've just got to go for it.

That's like every relationship out there past the first few months.

That is what you do when you can get a large enough number of dates to make your experiences. But as an incel it is like winning the lottery if you get a date in three years.

 

[CopingGymcel]

That is what you do when you can get a large enough number of dates to make your experiences. But as an incel it is like winning the lottery if you get a date in three years.

If you can get one date, you can get more, just like if you got get sex in the past, you can get sex again.

 

[virgin4life]

You had no photos?

Yes I did. I have no idea why they liked me on the photos but despised me in real life.

If you can get one date, you can get more, just like if you got get sex in the past, you can get sex again.

Yeah but I'd have to invest 100 hours on Tinder each time for one date. Don't you think?

 

[StormlitAqua]

FUARK how is this possible are we autists that bad? I mean how? I am doomed I have a high IQ but I am neet and I am not eloquent unlike you (besides my bad english, I guess).

Go into detail please. If necessary per PM.

Spoiler: Story Time

I was at the Verizon store last week getting a new phone. As I was waiting for the guy to get my new phone, the woman approached me and just handed me her number and left.

I texted it the next day and we set up a time and place.

At the "date", she treated me like a child. She talked down to me, and treated me like her autistic child. She claimed she gave me her number because I was "unique" (WTF does that even mean?). She never said anything about me being attractive, and women are not quiet when they find you attractive. I could even look her in the eyes, she was too dominating of a personality, plus I basically had an autism attack. I have nothing to talk about with women because all of my discussion topics are politically incorrect or otherwise offensive. Half the date was silence. Didn't make any physical contact whatsoever. Disgusting experience.

She dropped a great blackpill though and said the men she's been involved with have either tons of experience or none (80/20 rule).

 

[Haircutbro]

This is so fucking true OP
The hard part begins after you got their number
Getting a number is easy, im ugly, and im a mentalcel, and ive gone up to girls, asking for their number and got it
Its easy, the hard part comes after that
Good luck going on a date with them, good luck being so desperate that you know, you dont fit together, yet you need love and affection, so you still go to that date, only to sit there, being nervous and not knowing what to talk about
Good luck going to a second date, good look timing the first hug and kiss, and not fucking it up
Good luck going to her place for the first time
Good luck getting her to have sex with you, without fucking it up, and influencing it in the right time
Then have fun not fucking up the sex part itself
Do you know how many steps there are, that you have to solve just to get a gf ?
If you go in for the first kiss, in a creepy way, or you dont know how to kiss with tounge
Its over, you are going to get ghosted
Hugging her akwardly, saying something creepy or stupid ? ghosted
Not entertaining her ? ghosted
Finding a mix between being alpha without being too cocky ?
Signaling to her that she made a good choice ?
You have to determine everything, where will the date be ? At what time ? For how long ? Will you kiss her ? What to talk about etc
You have to determine even after the dating phase, where to eat, how long she can stay, what she should do, when to have sex
And trust me, one false word, and its fucking over
I once dated a girl, and i really played it perfectly, i hugged her while looking into her eyes, sparking interest
Next time we saw, in front of her home, i gave her a deep hug, looking into her eyes, and softly kissing her
She tried to use tounge, and i declined with my lips
Then the next time we saw each other, i grabbed her chin, pulled her to me, and kissed her with tounge
I did all that perfectly, and i cant grasp that i did, because im a fucking asperger autism mentalcel, and i pulled that off so smooth, like mr grey or something
And in the end, it was over before it even began, she said she doesnt want to see me again, because it doesnt fit ( i once was out with friends and saw her in the bar, and did not talk to her that much, because i was kinda nervous, and that was enough for her to "break up" )
You have to be confident 24/7 all the time, and you need to have such a great analyzing talent, to know what she is up to, to basically read her
I mean, if you are a 9/10, that shit doesnt matter, because you are so good looking that she forgives everything creepy you say, or every stupid thing you do
But if you are average or below average, its nearly impossible

Also if you are nervous, or dont know shit, or have no expierence
Its over, girls hate that, they really do
Because they also see it as a personal attack
If she wants to kiss you with tounge lets say, and you decline, because you are scared that you fuck it up, because you never did it
She will not want to see you again, like that thing, its over....
Not getting an errection bcs you are nervous ? Over
Not fucking her for an hour straight, licking her clit, while fingering her g spot ? Over
They will laugh at you, if you have no experience, and they can smell that you are needy
I could write hours about this, but just lets sum it up
If you have no expierence, its over, no wonder so many incels become pedophiles, because only a child would not mind you being not experienced, because they themselves arent
You average noodle whore, age 20, has had around 15-20 sexual partners
I have many female friends, and they all have had around 20, and they are 16-20 years old
Now count in that most women half their sexual partner count
Its over

 

[virgin4life]

This is so fucking true OP
The hard part begins after you got their number
Getting a number is easy, im ugly, and im a mentalcel, and ive gone up to girls, asking for their number and got it
Its easy, the hard part comes after that
Good luck going on a date with them, good luck being so desperate that you know, you dont fit together, yet you need love and affection, so you still go to that date, only to sit there, being nervous and not knowing what to talk about
Good luck going to a second date, good look timing the first hug and kiss, and not fucking it up
Good luck going to her place for the first time
Good luck getting her to have sex with you, without fucking it up, and influencing it in the right time
Then have fun not fucking up the sex part itself
Do you know how many steps there are, that you have to solve just to get a gf ?
If you go in for the first kiss, in a creepy way, or you dont know how to kiss with tounge
Its over, you are going to get ghosted
Hugging her akwardly, saying something creepy or stupid ? ghosted
Not entertaining her ? ghosted
Finding a mix between being alpha without being too cocky ?
Signaling to her that she made a good choice ?
You have to determine everything, where will the date be ? At what time ? For how long ? Will you kiss her ? What to talk about etc
You have to determine even after the dating phase, where to eat, how long she can stay, what she should do, when to have sex
And trust me, one false word, and its fucking over
I once dated a girl, and i really played it perfectly, i hugged her while looking into her eyes, sparking interest
Next time we saw, in front of her home, i gave her a deep hug, looking into her eyes, and softly kissing her
She tried to use tounge, and i declined with my lips
Then the next time we saw each other, i grabbed her chin, pulled her to me, and kissed her with tounge
I did all that perfectly, and i cant grasp that i did, because im a fucking asperger autism mentalcel, and i pulled that off so smooth, like mr grey or something
And in the end, it was over before it even began, she said she doesnt want to see me again, because it doesnt fit ( i once was out with friends and saw her in the bar, and did not talk to her that much, because i was kinda nervous, and that was enough for her to "break up" )
You have to be confident 24/7 all the time, and you need to have such a great analyzing talent, to know what she is up to, to basically read her
I mean, if you are a 9/10, that shit doesnt matter, because you are so good looking that she forgives everything creepy you say, or every stupid thing you do
But if you are average or below average, its nearly impossible

Also if you are nervous, or dont know shit, or have no expierence
Its over, girls hate that, they really do
Because they also see it as a personal attack
If she wants to kiss you with tounge lets say, and you decline, because you are scared that you fuck it up, because you never did it
She will not want to see you again, like that thing, its over....
Not getting an errection bcs you are nervous ? Over
Not fucking her for an hour straight, licking her clit, while fingering her g spot ? Over
They will laugh at you, if you have no experience, and they can smell that you are needy
I could write hours about this, but just lets sum it up
If you have no expierence, its over, no wonder so many incels become pedophiles, because only a child would not mind you being not experienced, because they themselves arent
You average noodle whore, age 20, has had around 15-20 sexual partners
I have many female friends, and they all have had around 20, and they are 16-20 years old
Now count in that most women half their sexual partner count
Its over

Exactly. That sums it up just perfectly. One wrong word. One wrong look. OVER. Every incel should read your post to know what awaits them if they ever make it past level 1.

 

[Evildoer]

Well I'm not a mentalcel, and I'm low enough inhib, so if I can fix my appearance enough I can ascend. Theoretically.

Do it, then.

 

[Limerencel]

Brutal numberpill.

 

[kernkraft]

They give numbers to avoid confrontation. Males can be violent and dangerous, particularly ugly ones, remember?

Don't mistake digits for (sexual) interest

 

[virgin4life]

Well I'm not a mentalcel, and I'm low enough inhib, so if I can fix my appearance enough I can ascend. Theoretically.

I wouldn't be so certain about this.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Savage. Thanks for the insight guys. Really appreciated.

I leggit think about dating some high IQ cougar to "train" me. Thougts?

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

Savage. Thanks for the insight guys. Really appreciated.

I leggit think about dating some high IQ cougar to "train" me. Thougts?

You can try, but be ready ... Cougars are the kind of women who pay cute boys to have sex. For a reason. I'd say beware.

 

[Mickeyonacid]

I'm not a """mentalcel""" and I'm certainly not socially incapable like some users here, so I think that if I somehow did get a number I could probably make it to ascension. I'll never know for sure, unfortunately.

 

[Deleted member 60]

yes, this is a very important branch of the agepill / just be first theory. Attracting women is only the first step. Getting them into bed is a whole different game.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Let's just say girls finally gave you their numbers. Now keep in mind girls start having sex at 12, 13. At 25 they have been with 5-10 guys if they belong to the less slutty girls. So now if you had their number and even if she went on a date with you...it would not help you at all.

You would be sitting there not knowing what to do. You have the experience of a 10 year old boy so what would you even say? Probably something like: "Hu hu...uhm...nice...uhm...nice weather, isn't it?" She would smell your virginity in like 10 seconds and any attraction she may have had would be gone in a second.

But even if the date went good, she liked you, wanted to go on a second date with you...even then you would not know how to get from talking about the weather to seducing her, kissing her etc. After three or four dates she would sort you in under the friend zone category.

But hey let's even say you managed to have several dates, you managed to seduce her, kiss her etc. Let's even say you managed to fuck her. You would never be able to have a relationship with her. The first time you watch TV together and see something about feminism you may say something that she may find irritating and make clear to her that you were an incel. And then it would be over. You can not hide your true identity for years.

This is why it is ultimately over for us. Not because we don't get numbers. Our problem goes FAR, FAR beyond that!!!!

High IQ post. Agreed.

 

[ElliotLookAlike]

I'm not a """mentalcel""" and I'm certainly not socially incapable like some users here, so I think that if I somehow did get a number I could probably make it to ascension. I'll never know for sure, unfortunately.

this is the right ideology

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Do it, then.

I'm trying. I've had several surgeries already and have more planned.

Fixing a bad face is really, really, really hard.

Fixing a bad height is equally hard.

Fixing a race is impossible.

 

[Timecel]

You would be sitting there not knowing what to do. You have the experience of a 10 year old boy so what would you even say? Probably something like: "Hu hu...uhm...nice...uhm...nice weather, isn't it?" She would smell your virginity in like 10 seconds and any attraction she may have had would be gone in a second.

But even if the date went good, she liked you, wanted to go on a second date with you...even then you would not know how to get from talking about the weather to seducing her, kissing her etc. After three or four dates she would sort you in under the friend zone category.

If there's a reason for the existence of alcohol, it's situations like this one.

 

[virgin4life]

If there's a reason for the existence of alcohol, it's situations like this one.

With alcohol I am only an even more retarded version of myself.

 

[Timecel]

With alcohol I am only an even more retarded version of myself.

me too, but at least I am less awkward in conversations

 

[Beavis.Tomas.Killman]

BTK hid his true face for years and was never discovered. just for being an egomaniac got caught. which is why you have to lie systematically with credible lies. Yes you can