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Discussion Eugenics, Arranged Marriages, and Inceldom

IncelCatechumen

IncelCatechumen

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Clearly arranged marriages are necessarily dysgenic (most of the times): undesirable individuals get the opportunity to reproduce inadvertently creating a future generation of incels. This might explain why there are so many curycels and ricecels in western societies: their ancestors were subject of arranged marriages and now they are suffering from the genetic consequences of that initial sin. The genetic degradation of the minor Austrians in Spain during the reign of the Habsburgs served as an example of this phenomena.

Of course, in the short term, arranged marriages might be beneficial to incels, but what about the long term consequences of this inhumane act? It seems that in western societies it's not going to be possible to return to traditional societies and the Islamic ethos feels like a far-fetched option (for the Islamic enthusiast of this forum: I simply don't think islamic societies are any better for incels than western ones: many islamic countries have insane female-to-male ratios, crazy numbers of pornography consumption, and also of male virginity).

For arranged marriages to be a "thing" again we need to revert and, as I said, there are no possible returns, as long as we have a service-oriented economy we are going to have feminism and the social values that are related with it (i'm quoting the marxist Marvin Harris here).

So in conclusion, do you guys think that we should ask for a voluntary sterilization in order to have an aesthetics-based eugenics? I mean, sperm banks and artificial insemination are partially like this, as you know, women´sexual preferences in atomized societies tend to be worst than 19th century eugenicists: they want white, tall, blue-eyes vikings with High IQ´s: maybe incels are a product of the NWO and their eugenic goals. I'm starting to think about that possibility although it sounds nuts...


Edit: This would go hand-in-hand with the ethical system of negative utilitarianism. The syllogism goes by this:

We need to reduce suffering
Inceldom is a life of suffering
Eugenics solve aesthetic deficiencies in the long term
Therefore, we should support eugenics
 
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It's just the descendant getting an arranged marriage too, it was like that for most of the time in history for ugly men ngl
 
by undesirable you mean looks wise undesirable to foids rather than any actual meaningful traits.
by dysgenic you mean highiq/productive member of society reproducing and chads like meeks not reproducing
JFL


I don't give a shit if foids are happy in a the society that they live in.
Arranged marriages are based if everyone is doing it.

long term consequences
A better society with higher IQ, productivity, logic etc.
Therefore, we should support eugenics
cucked AF

Foid satisfaction is NOT something to optimize for - if you have have more than 2 braincels
 
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The eugenics of today i.e. the mating preference for foids is a result of women's suffrage

Do you really believe that whores think long term and in favour of society?

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These whores are only interested in their own personal short term benefit and don't give a fuck about society if it does not benefit them immediately.

And now we should euthanize ourselves to give them more strength, to tell them they are right?

One based incel is worth 10000 foids
 
arranged marriages are the only solution, society must lose the superficiality of evaluating the aesthetic aspect so much, to enhance what is inside people
 
by undesirable you mean looks wise undesirable to foids rather than any actual meaningful traits.
by dysgenic you mean highiq/productive member of society reproducing and chads like meeks not reproducing
Looks are not "superficial traits" but rather they serve an evolutionary advantage. Also isn't what´s beautiful preferable to what's ugly? Incels are not "productive members" of society (neet, not being capable of achieving meaningful relationships with 50% of the population) nor are they necessarily high iq (high iq is correlated to high education and therefore high income which equals sex).
A better society with higher IQ, productivity, logic etc.
Yes, and sperm donation centers that are extremely Chad-centric are doing this, not only that but it´s also a mix between high iq and physical attractiveness. A society of the beautiful.
Foid satisfaction is NOT something to optimize for - if you have have more than 2 braincels
This is not satisfying the needs of society but enhancing society through negative or positive eugenics: no ugly individuals = no incels.
Do you really believe that whores think long term and in favour of society?
Actually, foids tend to be more socially-centered than guys, that´s why the receive more small loans than man (due to their apparent commitment towards their communities and mothers while guys tend to be more individualistic but also egalitarians)

Nevertheless, eugenics benefits all groups bc it implies the immediate disruption of inceldom in 2-3 generations.
And now we should euthanize ourselves to give them more strength, to tell them they are right?
How are we giving them more strength by doing it? I don´t get the logic, our genes are simply rotten to the core.
arranged marriages are the only solution, society must lose the superficiality of evaluating the aesthetic aspect so much, to enhance what is inside people

This is just romantic bs
 
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they serve an evolutionary advantage.
In a society where foids are unchecked.
Also isn't what´s beautiful preferable to what's ugly?
No
Incels are not "productive members" of society (neet, not being capable of achieving meaningful relationships with 50% of the population)
Because of foids being allowed to run willy nilly, playing pretend as productive members of society in HR departments, teachers etc.
nor are they necessarily high iq
More IQ than soycucks that can't even comprehend the blackpill.
high iq is correlated to high education and therefore high income which equals sex
Need an :omegalul: emoji for this ngl
This is not satisfying the needs of society but enhancing society through negative or positive eugenics.
There's no such thing as "enhancing" through eugenics. There's just trait selection.
Actually, foids tend to be more socially-centered than guys
They are not
that´s why the receive more small loans than man
that's because of ((()))
 
Regarding to what you said "women act more in the interest of society"

Individual selective traits are traits which are favourable to the individual but unfavourable to the group. Cowardice, deception, selfishness and the dark triad of personality belongs here. Group selective traits are traits which are favourable to the group but not the individual. Mercy, compassion, conscience, self sacrifice, truthfulness and unselfishness belong to those.

It is common for a country to have a small nepotistic ruling class with individual selective traits such as psychopathy while also having a large under class with individual selective traits. They have low IQ and are unsuccessful regarding nepotism. The middle class is the only group which is a net contributor. They lose money through taxes and extracted surplus value. It is the only class that is policed by the police as the 2 classes with individual selective persons are above and below the law respectively. The person or class of group selective traits concerns itself with net production, not in themselves getting the sum total of the fruits of their labour.
The person or group of individual selective values concerns itself with acquiring pieces of the cake, not increasing its size or the ethics of doing so.
The former focuses on the moral victory in picking up more trash than left in nature while the latter focuses on their hierarchical victory in doing the opposite and having the moral expend calories to amend their own wrongdoings.

Humans compete as individuals and groups. Individual selective traits are beneficial regarding individual competition and group selective traits are beneficial regarding competition between groups.

Most women look around, see what is normal and beneficial to appear to like and think and just becomes that without thinking about disembodied morality. T

The inferior brain of females means that they outsource their thinking and opinion forming to other females in the group.

If you beat them like a bad dog or slander them at their every attempt at forming their own opinion or do something without your permission they treat you as their master like said dog. If you treat them like an equal, they will try to dominate you and tell you what to do while immorally attacking you for doing your own thing in your half of the living space.

It is a known meme, particularly among MGTOWs that the house belongs to the woman while the male provider must make do with a corner in the garage or a bathroom he can lock himself into. Women often steal clothes and other ornaments they don't like from their men which they can while men cannot do the same as women projecting keep track of every possession instead of contributing to society like a group selective person. Women don't care about producing like a group selective person but mostly about acquiring and having in relation to others like the individual selective people they are.

Females favour individual selection when selecting mates. Women favour violence, fear and the dark triad of personality besides good physique and health which are universally healthy. It is called archaic selection as contemporary success is often derived from money and inherited status rather than the genes which were adaptable during the stone age.

It lies in the male interest to increase group selection while female instincts which favour individual selective traits remain. This can be done by normalising a culture of arranged marriage or to execute males who practice abundantly individual selective behaviour. Said executees may have stolen or killed those better than them within the group.

Their instincts tell them to, beside going for healthy physiques which is a positive trait, go for men of violence, below average IQ, being threatening, immoral, without integrity and of the dark triad.

Females of fertile age are repulsed by men of below average visual and genetic standard; you are to them what cucking and castration would be to you if to you had the smv and lack of accountability of a female. Females of younger and older ages can be nice but a more attractive charismatic male specimen will appear better in every way all other things being equal. Males are evolved to patrol, protect and not attack; incels are evolved to remove themselves from the gene pool for its better sake
 
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by undesirable you mean looks wise undesirable to foids rather than any actual meaningful traits.
by dysgenic you mean highiq/productive member of society reproducing and chads like meeks not reproducing
JFL


I don't give a shit if foids are happy in a the society that they live in.
Arranged marriages are based if everyone is doing it.


A better society with higher IQ, productivity, logic etc.

cucked AF

Foid satisfaction is NOT something to optimize for - if you have have more than 2 braincels
Was just about to say this. Thanks for saying it for me.

sexual selection is absolute horse shit and means nothing for society.
 
incels who supports eugenics is a cuck. :feelsUgh:
 
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Actually, foids tend to be more socially-centered than guys,
Hard disagree on this one. They are socially more successfully, at least in this current day and age given the amount of attention they receive, I can give you that. They are humored far more than men. Men have shown to be much more dedicated to their causes in unity, especially in harsher times. Speaking about harsher times, it was all these incel-like men who gave women their rights during the age of technological advancement. So more responsibilities in less harsh environments. I know instances of men providing job opportunities for widows to support themselves. It was quite prevalent in WWII. The vice-versa is not noticeable at all. Well, you may say women don't need to care for sub-humans. Then you see them rallying for equal payment against male athletes with 'chad' genes. They more tribal than anything.

Also the eugenic that you keep harping on about, you realize that most women would need to be purged as well. Otherwise, incels would keep being born. And with such a low population, the world would be hard to sustain with man-power. According to history, apparently, people didn't mate 1-to-1, yet they still succumbed to tribalism more often with their superior genes. It would seem, after the sexual morality was established and people started mating 1-to-1, that we had more diversity in thought, expression, innovation etc.
 

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