Serious Ego and pride are a very serious problem here

[Fontaine]

I always see posts reading like this: "my boss humiliated me, my life is finished" ; "I was humiliated by so and so, my confidence is destroyed again"; "I don't want to be a laughing stock" ; etc.

That's basically the definition of pride. You hide from rejection and failure because you're afraid your fantasized self-image will fall apart. But guess what, bucko: this self-image never existed elsewhere than in your skull.

It doesn't surprise me that the proportion of mental cases in the incel community is this high if so many are horrified at the prospect of social humiliation... No wonder they never approach women or ask them out.

Dudes, when someone in the street calls me a motherfucker, I don't even react. I let myself be walked upon all the time. This is the winning strategy in nearly all cases. And it's backed by every serious philosophical/religious tradition.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I think in my case it isn't so much a fear of failure or rejection(although it makes me feel awful). But it's my past experiences letting me know that I'll fail anyway, so why bother putting myself through it again? My ego was smashed into nonexistence in the past, so I may actually have the exact opposite problem.

 

[Fontaine]

I think in my case it isn't so much a fear of failure or rejection(although it makes me feel awful). But it's my past experiences letting me know that I'll fail anyway, so why bother putting myself through it again? My ego was smashed into nonexistence in the past, so I may actually have the exact opposite problem.

Do you react when someone insults you?

If you don't your ego is indeed dead --- which is a very good thing.

 

[hearmeout]

I don't even react. I let myself be walked upon all the time.

You mean to tell me ontop of being a reject in society I need to let other people do as they please with me? Where is the win for me? Pls explain why letting everybody walk over you is somehow a winning strategy?

 

[Modus Coperandi]

lots of weird posts since you fried your brain tbh

 

[Deleted member 9192]

It hits the old wounds, humiliation is a trigger because most people here have been humiliated before here. So its 80% flashback reaction and 20% to the actual hurt done by that situation

 

[EthnicelNL]

lots of weird posts since you fried your brain tbh

He's done. That shit messes with your psyche the rest of your life.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Do you react when someone insults you?

No, at least not outwardly.

 

[Fontaine]

You mean to tell me ontop of being a reject in society I need to let other people do as they please with me? Where is the win for me? Pls explain why letting everybody walk over you is somehow a winning strategy?

Because unless you're a black belt in karate or a navy SEAL, you'll just humiliate yourself further by reacting. And you'll probably face criminal charges for battery or worse.

Pride is always counter-productive. Come on guys that's basic stuff. That ship has sailed two thousand years ago. The religion of the West (Christianity) is built on the idea that pride is harmful.

 

[VLÖ]

lots of weird posts since you fried your brain tbh

lmao of course.

He's a dumbass for letting his brain get fried.

 

[Deleted member 9192]

Because unless you're a black belt in karate or a navy SEAL, you'll just humiliate yourself further by reacting. And you'll probably face criminal charges for battery or worse.

Pride is always counter-productive. Come on guys that's basic stuff. That ship has sailed two thousand years ago. The religion of the West (Christianity) is built on the idea that pride is harmful.

But not everyone reacts to attacks the same way, some freeze or flight (the "smart way" but still a trauma response) some fight or fawn (interaction with the enemy) you cant pick your poison its predisposed

 

[Gremlincel]

I tried this strategy my entire life, being a pacifist, sitting back and taking it, acting as though nothing bothered me, and my self esteem and confidence has always been non-existent, I've always hated myself, and regretted the countless times I refused to stand up for myself.
These days, since becoming blackpilled, hateful and angry, realizing I have nothing to lose anymore, I try to react aggressively anytime someone tries to dominate me, through insults or otherwise. Granted, I'm worse off than I've ever been, but I don't care anymore.
Hopefully some chad will kill me in a fight, after I escalate the situation, lol.

 

[Fontaine]

lmao of course.

He's a dumbass for letting his brain get fried.

And you're smarter for letting your neurophysiological disease (depression) untreated?

Keep coping with pride and hatred bro. I've done that before. Hatecelling, WNcelling, these were my youthful years. You'll just end up a bum under a bridge, because guess what, when you despise society, society never gives you anything. You are NEET, I suppose?

 

[VLÖ]

And you're smarter for letting your neurophysiological disease (depression) untreated?

Keep coping with pride and hatred bro. I've done that before. Hatecelling, WNcelling, these were my youthful years. You'll just end up a bum under a bridge, because guess what, when you despise society, society never gives you anything. You are NEET, I suppose?

 

[Fontaine]

View attachment 24939

Anti-semitism now. The trifecta of proud unwashed neckbeards is complete.

Dude I desperately want to help you not commit the mistakes of my youth, but I don't know how to convince you.

 

[VLÖ]

Anti-semitism now. The trifecta of proud unwashed neckbeards is complete.

Dude I desperately want to help you not commit the mistakes of my youth, but I don't know how to convince you.

Let me guess, you want me to get a brain lobotomy and be a good little cuck who serves his masters?

BTW, I posted that image as a joke anyway, but you took it seriously. That shows you're no longer independent, you think whatever society wants you to think.

tl;dr gg, you lose.

 

[jet112]

no that's the opposite of having self-respect and self-esteem.
you should set a standard for how people treat you in life, and you should do it early as possible.
90% of abuse victims are people that over-slide things until the reach a boiling point.
how many stories have you heard of abusive parents that fucked someone up the ass for 20 years? only a mule would go through that kind of punishment. having self respect means to have a baseline level of how people should treat you

 

[_incelinside]

Yeah i admit one of my main problems is a huge ego.

 

[Fontaine]

no that's the opposite of having self-respect and self-esteem.
you should set a standard for how people treat you in life, and you should do it early as possible.
90% of abuse victims are people that over-slide things until the reach a boiling point.
how many stories have you heard of abusive parents that fucked someone up the ass for 20 years? only a mule would go through that kind of punishment. having self respect means to have a baseline level of how people should treat you

There's a difference between being a total doormat and an easy-going dude who lets most things pass.

However if you're ugly and weak, being a total doormat is often the only realistic choice you have

 

[PoodankMcGee]

I feel like you could just as easily inverse this argument. I'm sure plenty of people her dont approach because they have no pride or confidence and feel that theres no hope and theyre not worthy of that affection anyways, and they just dont want to me further reminded of their worthlessness.

Also, nonreactivity in the face of social humiliation can also be explained in having a strong internal sense of self confidence, therefore one does not need external validation.

 

[TheGoat]

Some people here needs a bit more pride like that guy who supposedly licked a period pad

 

[jet112]

There's a difference between being a total doormat and an easy-going dude who lets most things pass.

However if you're ugly and weak, being a total doormat is often the only realistic choice you have

i understand what your'e saying. but if you let normies have little openings like that, they gonna capitalize.
every horror story starts with something simple. people smell blood and they bite you, simple as that.
what you probably mean is, "i should be more accepting to normie behavior because this way ill get accepted through some fire trial bullshit". i don't have anything against that as long as you are aware where you stand with those people

 

[Mahlo]

"Bro I'm in a lot of pain"
"The pain only exists inside your skull. You need to chill"

 

[Fontaine]

"Bro I'm in a lot of pain"
"The pain only exists inside your skull. You need to chill"

If the pain doesn't indicate actual ongoing serious damage on your organs, then you're better off ignoring it. Gymcelling involves actively rejecting and ignoring pain signals.

 

[Solitarian_Walker]

bucko

Is it you dad?

Spoiler

 

[Deleted member 8353]

i understand what your'e saying. but if you let normies have little openings like that, they gonna capitalize.
every horror story starts with something simple. people smell blood and they bite you, simple as that.
what you probably mean is, "i should be more accepting to normie behavior because this way ill get accepted through some fire trial bullshit". i don't have anything against that as long as you are aware where you stand with those people

I don't know how to stand up for myself, couldn't do it even if I wanted to. I've let people walk all over me since I was a kid, the few times I tried to defend myself, both verbally or physically, it just got me into an even worse position. That's why I said that I likely have the exact opposite problem, as whenever people put me down I just further abuse myself over it.

 

[Deleted member 60]

you are so fucking pretentious sometimes, jesus christ

 

[Fontaine]

i understand what your'e saying. but if you let normies have little openings like that, they gonna capitalize.
every horror story starts with something simple. people smell blood and they bite you, simple as that.
what you probably mean is, "i should be more accepting to normie behavior because this way ill get accepted through some fire trial bullshit". i don't have anything against that as long as you are aware where you stand with those people

If evil normies see a deformed dwarf on the street, they are slightly more likely to keep picking on him if he tries (obviously poorly) to defend his ego, than if he just humbly bears their insults or leaves the scene.

I don't know if this hypothesis of mine is correct, perhaps it's not, but in a lot of cases having a big ego will get you more socially rejected than having none (you can't enter a fraternity if you can't tolerate hazing, for instance).

you are so fucking pretentious sometimes, jesus christ

I'm sorry if I come across that way. However, the fact that you (a well-known mentalcel) is triggered by my linking of pride with inhibition shows that my arrows are near the bullseye.

 

[TheCrusader0201]

Ich gebe zu, dass ich sehr stolz bin, und mein Ego ist durch das Dach, aber verdient meine Persönlichkeit es? Schließlich versuchen wir alle, der oberste Ritter zu sein

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

I always see posts reading like this: "my boss humiliated me, my life is finished" ; "I was humiliated by so and so, my confidence is destroyed again"; "I don't want to be a laughing stock" ; etc.

That's basically the definition of pride. You hide from rejection and failure because you're afraid your fantasized self-image will fall apart. But guess what, bucko: this self-image never existed elsewhere than in your skull.

It doesn't surprise me that the proportion of mental cases in the incel community is this high if so many are horrified at the prospect of social humiliation... No wonder they never approach women or ask them out.

Dudes, when someone in the street calls me a motherfucker, I don't even react. I let myself be walked upon all the time. This is the winning strategy in nearly all cases. And it's backed by every serious philosophical/religious tradition.

He’s right, nothing can hurt you if you have suppressed the illusion of what other people think of you.

 

[Fontaine]

He’s right, nothing can hurt you if you have suppressed the illusion of what other people think of you.

Having no ego is basic stuff for us oldcels, who have gone through dozens of self-help books and eureka moments about social judgment, but I've just realized most members here are teenagers straight out of middle school...

 

[Deleted member 60]

I'm sorry if I come across that way. However, the fact that you (a well-known mentalcel) is triggered by my linking of pride with inhibition shows that my arrows are near the bullseye.

not triggered, I'm well aware of my pride/ego. But a lot of low inhib "alpha males" deal with these insecurities too. It's just part of being a man IMO. You will never truly kill your ego, short of chemical castration

Some people here needs a bit more pride like that guy who supposedly licked a period pad

this.

 

[MrTran]

Elliot Rodger's primary problem. Though I doubt that ego can be conquered entirely without substantial effort and self-awareness on part of the individual. Also, this depends on the belief in free will. The traits that assist with dissolution of the ego are not evenly distributed.

 

[universallyabhorred]

Cope ego and pride are the only things that give us value, if we abandoned these things then we'd just become bluepilled self harming cucks, like the incels in denial on IT

 

[acnescarcel]

so basically take the dgafpill?

 

[happiless]

I'll believe you've transcended ego and pride if you can walk up to a group of foids/Chads and start a conversation with them by saying you're a virgin.

 

[PheneZ]

Cope.

 

[Uglymonster]

My self image is in my skull but that doesn't make it unreal. It's less real than physical stuff probably but it is there.

 

[Fontaine]

Elliot Rodger's primary problem. Though I doubt that ego can be conquered entirely without substantial effort and self-awareness on part of the individual. Also, this depends on the belief in free will. The traits that assist with dissolution of the ego are not evenly distributed.

Very few people (fewer than ever nowadays due to the death of religion) are trying to tame their ego.

The great difficulty of social relationships when you have killed your ego is getting along with people who haven't; I sometimes make remarks that wouldn't offend me but offend others. The very concept of getting offended sounds completely crazy to me. What's the point?

Cope ego and pride are the only things that give us value, if we abandoned these things then we'd just become bluepilled self harming cucks, like the incels in denial on IT

Your value is your intellect which makes you resistant to bluepill dumbassery.

Ego and pride stand in front of intellect most of the time. For example, I am sure you refuse to read books liked by normies (I used to) - this is a mistake.

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

Having no ego is basic stuff for us oldcels, who have gone through dozens of self-help books and eureka moments about social judgment, but I've just realized most members here are teenagers straight out of middle school...

Really? How old are you? Perceived attacks against the ego are the most psychologically painful experiences a human mind is likely to sustain imo. I think ego reduces over time as a natural defence mechagnism against prolonged attack. No one in an unenviable position survives long with a big ego, that’s why I think the most likely to go ER are often narcissists like the man himself. I cannot imagine the torture of being a narcissistic incel, the duality of such high self opinion and such low interpersonal feedback from the world must cause a mind to break down over time.

 

[universallyabhorred]

Very few people (fewer than ever nowadays due to the death of religion) are trying to tame their ego.

The great difficulty of social relationships when you have killed your ego is getting along with people who haven't; I sometimes make remarks that wouldn't offend me but offend others. The very concept of getting offended sounds completely crazy to me. What's the point?

Your value is your intellect which makes you resistant to bluepill dumbassery.

Ego and pride stand in front of intellect most of the time. For example, I am sure you refuse to read books liked by normies (I used to) - this is a mistake.

Wrong having pride is what makes you resistant to bluepilled advice because you know such tactics will not lead to anything more than embarassment and bullying so based on observation and personal experience, you reject the classic self improvement meme. You also refuse to blame yourself for issues in your life caused by others for example when all females reject you and you are incel you realize it is because of their selfishness and shallowness rather than any personal flaw of yours.

Street smarts>book smarts, there is no point in developing one's intellect. It will not lead to any significant disadvantage either since most people are not smart or well read, being observant and aware of how the world works is much better than being a theoretical genius . Just knowing the bare minimum necessary to survive and be employed in your field while focusing on topics that interest you is sufficient.

No one in an unenviable position survives long with a big ego, that’s why I think the most likely to go ER are often narcissists like the man himself. I

This is actually a positive thing as it ends their suffering while also allowing them to demonstrate their power and superiority. During such an instance the male finally achieves the importance he desires. Reducing your ego just turns you into the good little slave society wants you to be.

 

[TrueAlphaMale]

What the fuck is this redpill bullshit? If someone does you wrong, you just go home and cry/masturbate because you are an ugly subhuman and that's what you get

 

[Deleted member 5861]

Just eliminate your ability to feel mental pain bruh.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

I agree it's done in several eastern philosophies, in the military, in therapy for phobias via exposition and also kinda in mindfulness. You have to strip yourself totaly free from that shit and learn to feel pain and finally even embrace it. Knowing that those feelings are not a real danger for you you can finally rebuild yourself. Sometimes I just think about going to a foreign city naked and letting people roast me. It's propably more realistic to do sth like uninstal though.

Pride is soycope.

How old are you if I may ask Fontaine?

 

[manch]

fontaine, every single one of your posts is jewish foid betabux cuck pushover ideals. You should be banned. This guy openly promotes people to get their brains zapped so that they are lulled into submission. He believes that you should give up all sense of self. He things that you should be a cog in the machine like a good little cuck, and not make any noise, with a smile on your face. fuck this propaganda pushing cuck.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Lol, you are projecting manch.

 

[Evildoer]

Nothing wrong with having a big ego, tbhtbh

 

[Anger]

What a fucking cuck, so you are saying that we should be docile betas who prefers to get bullied and humilliated rather than stand up by yourself and fuck them, it just basic survival instinct, you either eat or be eaten

 

[Deleted member 8353]

What a fucking cuck, so you are saying that we should be docile betas who prefers to get bullied and humilliated rather than stand up by yourself and fuck them, it just basic survival instinct, you either eat or be eaten

Just because something is natural doesn't make it right or even logical, see everything in nature. Pride is pointless.

Matthew 5:38-42 is a good description of how to respond to cruelty imo.

 

[The End]

Pride and shame are illogical. I never feel humiliated. I could walk down the street with my ding-a-ling out, screaming about what a faggot I am, and feel completely fine. Dealing with the external consequences would be a hassle though.

Despite that, I do have a huge ego. I spend nearly all of my time thinking about myself, albeit usually negatively. I want so much, and it doesn't seem right that I can't have all of it. If other people can have money, women, talent, etc, then why not me?

*edit* Oh, are you the other guy who got TMS? How'd it work for you (you're still doing it, right)? I can't follow all of your trains of thought, but I don't react to them as negatively as many others do. You may have some salient points, but ultimately logic will bring you back to the blackpill.