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Some of you OGs maybe have heard of something called the "effort to reward ratio" or "ER ratio" unironically as it spells itself out in abbreviation-form. Basically, effort in for the reward out -- simple mathcel shit some here will visualize well.
I think Zyros was the one who was a purveyor of this in a deeper-rooted, more blackpilled kinda sense, but essentially the idea is lost on some here. Basically the idea was that -- with worse LOOKS -- it wasn't that it meant getting laid or etc. was impossible always but mostly that IT'S NOT WORTH THE EFFORT. Pussy isn't worth slaving for lifelong -- it should be genuine and fair, right? The only effort should be improving LOOKS to then make life reach a point of comfort overall.
At some point you gotta man up (in the true way, not the red pill/mainstream cope ways) and realize that it's not worth a lifetime of work for 2 or 3, second-at-best women AKA you don't work hard and get less for it than a man who gets all you get and then some with no effort at all -- it's inherently WRONG to do so. You should work FOR YOU (LOOKS) not other ways to "grind for pussy." Red Pill guys sometimes have no self-respect, or are just MGTOW copers who give up (incels).
Many bluepilled follow this to a T -- they love the idea that, even if they acknowledge some men have it easier -- they can still get "le wifey" or "muh girlfriends" from time-to-time, but have to invest 10x more effort to get second-at-best results vs. Chad and his prime, fertile, squirting pussy hey days/scores on repeat with little/no investing.
Well, how about another facet to the ER ratio? How about the ETP ratio? Effort to pussy ratio AKA how much do you have to do -- in theory -- to maybe get a woman? Get some women? Get some life success? Sure, we say here that even some incels can "ascend" if they mean working for 10+ years to get out of a rut and maybe then getting a used goods woman at 35+ or something like that -- we can all imagine/guess how this turns out for the sub 5 guys often.
So essentially do your own math -- ETP ratio = Investment x Pussy (I suck at math, so any mathcels can try and seriously compute this better). What do you do and what do you get? For most incels they get shit if they do shit, and still often get shit even if they work hard -- no surprise. Most normies usually get shit too, but life's a bit more forgiving for them when it comes to women -- especially if they're the higher-tier normies that border on Chadlite territory or such. Basically you can argue that 'X' number of "incels" can, in theory at least, figure out how hard they'd have to work and what they'd exactly need to do to get some sexual success. Okay, fine, I won't argue otherwise -- but I will propose that IT'S A RIPOFF. I for one would not work twice as hard for a chance at no results when I know guys who don't work AT ALL PERIOD and still have gotten pussy freely and easily. You should not want to work harder for less, especially if you post here and know that plenty of guys in that top 1% or whatever get pussy on tap/handouts/silver platter sorta shit quite often. What is their ETP ratio? Just imagine theirs vs. yours:
You work hard your whole life and be hyperNT, stress yourself, fight to be dominating/earn respect, make lots of money, "statusmax" etc. to get a few girls maybe. Many here realize even low looks guys somehow "luck out" somehow, right? Well, can you control luck anyways? NO.
Chad just exists and is semi-NT and normal-ish -- doesn't need to do any of that other shit much but can still bag 10x the number of girls even on just exist mode. Guys with LOOKS don't need to grind for pussy -- they take it as it comes, and it comes often (literally & figuratively).
Sooner or later you come to realize that the juice isn't worth the squeeze -- you gotta respect yourself more than to slave away for the second-class life experience your superiors get handed to them. Work FOR YOU -- THAT'S IT. Improving looks and shit to get women, yeah -- that increases your INHERENT VALUE as a man so no shit LOOKS and improving them should always be your first priority in life IF YOU WANT A GOOD LIFE PERIOD. But slaving away to earn money and work hard to fight and enhance your rank and strain your body away just to get scraps? NO -- work FOR YOU, not to improve your current shitty conditions/life through your current LOOKS by unfair efforts/metrics you must play by. You should only play the game to get the money to IMPROVE YOURSELF AND YOUR VALUE, not to play catch-up for old whores who would've never wanted you first and want your "2.0" self through "muh efforts" -- you're shooting DOWN. Get looks and then get women THE RIGHT WAY -- do not ignore looks and try to get women THE LESS VALID WAY AKA through the unfair ETP ratio. Get yourself to the point where the ETP ratio IS IN YOUR FAVOR -- then no more worries in life after that which most men without LOOKS always must deal with to maintain their "women" or "options."
I think Zyros was the one who was a purveyor of this in a deeper-rooted, more blackpilled kinda sense, but essentially the idea is lost on some here. Basically the idea was that -- with worse LOOKS -- it wasn't that it meant getting laid or etc. was impossible always but mostly that IT'S NOT WORTH THE EFFORT. Pussy isn't worth slaving for lifelong -- it should be genuine and fair, right? The only effort should be improving LOOKS to then make life reach a point of comfort overall.
At some point you gotta man up (in the true way, not the red pill/mainstream cope ways) and realize that it's not worth a lifetime of work for 2 or 3, second-at-best women AKA you don't work hard and get less for it than a man who gets all you get and then some with no effort at all -- it's inherently WRONG to do so. You should work FOR YOU (LOOKS) not other ways to "grind for pussy." Red Pill guys sometimes have no self-respect, or are just MGTOW copers who give up (incels).
Many bluepilled follow this to a T -- they love the idea that, even if they acknowledge some men have it easier -- they can still get "le wifey" or "muh girlfriends" from time-to-time, but have to invest 10x more effort to get second-at-best results vs. Chad and his prime, fertile, squirting pussy hey days/scores on repeat with little/no investing.
Well, how about another facet to the ER ratio? How about the ETP ratio? Effort to pussy ratio AKA how much do you have to do -- in theory -- to maybe get a woman? Get some women? Get some life success? Sure, we say here that even some incels can "ascend" if they mean working for 10+ years to get out of a rut and maybe then getting a used goods woman at 35+ or something like that -- we can all imagine/guess how this turns out for the sub 5 guys often.
So essentially do your own math -- ETP ratio = Investment x Pussy (I suck at math, so any mathcels can try and seriously compute this better). What do you do and what do you get? For most incels they get shit if they do shit, and still often get shit even if they work hard -- no surprise. Most normies usually get shit too, but life's a bit more forgiving for them when it comes to women -- especially if they're the higher-tier normies that border on Chadlite territory or such. Basically you can argue that 'X' number of "incels" can, in theory at least, figure out how hard they'd have to work and what they'd exactly need to do to get some sexual success. Okay, fine, I won't argue otherwise -- but I will propose that IT'S A RIPOFF. I for one would not work twice as hard for a chance at no results when I know guys who don't work AT ALL PERIOD and still have gotten pussy freely and easily. You should not want to work harder for less, especially if you post here and know that plenty of guys in that top 1% or whatever get pussy on tap/handouts/silver platter sorta shit quite often. What is their ETP ratio? Just imagine theirs vs. yours:
You work hard your whole life and be hyperNT, stress yourself, fight to be dominating/earn respect, make lots of money, "statusmax" etc. to get a few girls maybe. Many here realize even low looks guys somehow "luck out" somehow, right? Well, can you control luck anyways? NO.
Chad just exists and is semi-NT and normal-ish -- doesn't need to do any of that other shit much but can still bag 10x the number of girls even on just exist mode. Guys with LOOKS don't need to grind for pussy -- they take it as it comes, and it comes often (literally & figuratively).
Sooner or later you come to realize that the juice isn't worth the squeeze -- you gotta respect yourself more than to slave away for the second-class life experience your superiors get handed to them. Work FOR YOU -- THAT'S IT. Improving looks and shit to get women, yeah -- that increases your INHERENT VALUE as a man so no shit LOOKS and improving them should always be your first priority in life IF YOU WANT A GOOD LIFE PERIOD. But slaving away to earn money and work hard to fight and enhance your rank and strain your body away just to get scraps? NO -- work FOR YOU, not to improve your current shitty conditions/life through your current LOOKS by unfair efforts/metrics you must play by. You should only play the game to get the money to IMPROVE YOURSELF AND YOUR VALUE, not to play catch-up for old whores who would've never wanted you first and want your "2.0" self through "muh efforts" -- you're shooting DOWN. Get looks and then get women THE RIGHT WAY -- do not ignore looks and try to get women THE LESS VALID WAY AKA through the unfair ETP ratio. Get yourself to the point where the ETP ratio IS IN YOUR FAVOR -- then no more worries in life after that which most men without LOOKS always must deal with to maintain their "women" or "options."
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