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Serious [Economics Blackpill] Price, Value and Hypergamy

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The field of hypergamy and its impact on civilization is a well-trodden and rich field, but I would like to add another perspective on that - the price vs value perspective.

Let's start with definitions:

Value - The value is composed of two factors: (1) relative abundance and (2) fundamental qualities.
The first factor is relative. It is defined by the relative abundance of something in relation to something else. The more abundant X is relative to Y the lower the value of X relative to Y, and visa versa.
The second is the fundamental and constant invariable that represents the inherent characteristics of something and incorporates its qualities (+) and flaws (-). Your value is how strong, good-looking, smart, etc you are.
What is more tricky is to understand the relative shares, or importance, of each part in the total definition of value. Namely, how many percents out of 100% is each factor?
Every value is a combination of the two factors and later I will propose a way to estimate the value of the “average” men.

Price - is merely information. It can be arbitrarily set by the governments or defined at the marketplace at the intersection of supply and demand, or as in the majority of cases, by the combination of the two. Unlike value, prices can fluctuate in response to changes in supply and demand or as a reaction to government intervention.

In Warren Buffett’s words… (which might be a paraphrasing someone else...)
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In fact, the glorious Warren Buffett made his billions on an intertemporal arbitrage between low price and high value… but it is for another post.

The Value of the Man
Let's understand first the fundamental value of the male and the female. Since value has two factors we should discuss them both and then decide what is the relative share of each factor.

Factor 1: Relative Abundance
What is the Male to Female ratio (known as sex ratio)? It is usually slightly above 1. Namely, there are slightly more men than women.
So, if the number of females is just slightly below the number of males then the value of a man is just a bit lower than the female value! WRONG!!!

Nature made us different and significantly lowered the value of the male in relation to the female. The fundamental value of men to women can perhaps be calculated as the ratio between the total number of sperm cells to the total number of egg cells in a given place/country. As you understand due to the abundance of sperm cells their number is just 10 millionth the price of an egg cell. Nature made the man WORTHLESS in relation to the female.

but we have another factor...

Factor 2: Fundamental Qualities
Here the male has the upper hand. Males have competed and improved themselves genetically through the brutal process of natural selection and increased their fundamental value by being stronger and smarter in relation to the female*.

Men learned and shaped their skills to provide and do complicated stuff which compensated immensely for the low-value nature has initially endowed them with.

A Composite Man's Value = (1-C)*Factor_1 +(C)*factor_2 (where C is 0 < C < 1 and named the Civilization factor)
What is the relative share of each factor (what is C)? Frankly, I don't know. But we can look at history to see that generally, the composite value of the male is roughly equal to the value of the female mainly because of the importance of Factor 2 (C is close to 1) - at least in a regulated sexual marketplace.

The Impact of Hypergamy on Price, Value, and the Civilization Factor - C
Accumulation of skills, self-improvement, and investments became possible when men realized that they and their descendants will be able to enjoy them and that it would attract women to them. When a man sees that his future effort can pay off he will be incentivized to compete, improve himself, save, invest, invent, and create because they know that they, or their descendants, will be able to enjoy the fruits of their toil. All these actions are immensely important and their sum defines what civilization is. If a man cannot secure the fruits of their effort there will be no civilization but rotting and degeneration. Exactly what we have today.

Mathematically, the closer the C to 1 the higher the importance of accumulated skills (factor 2) in mating and the lower importance of relative abundance (factor 1) and this the higher the level of civilization in the society. Namely, creative, hard-working males will find women or even several women so that the offsprings will be as good as they are.

In fact, civilization could rise ONLY AFTER the Sexual Marketplace has become regulated. Namely, regulation of the Sexual Marketplace and control of hypergamy is a PRECONDITION to civilization and not its consequence. At the same time, no civilization can exist with too high levels of hypergamy. Women promiscuity destroys civilization since men lose the incentive to do work hard to maintain the fruits of their toil - which in turn constitute what civilization is.

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On the left side, hypergamy is restrained - this is civilization. On the right side, there is barbarism and degeneracy.

On the Left, almost every male has an incentive to work hard and increase his Factor 2 value because he knows that it will pay off and he will get a woman. As a result, men invest, save, create, and invent - civilization is flourishing.

On the right side is hypergamy unchecked. Men understand that they will not get a woman so they have no incentive to work, study and invest - the factor 2 value is plummeting. Civilization is deteriorating: technological progress is slower, interest rates are low, consumerism, etc...

Hypergamy lowers the incentives to increase the fundamental male value (factor 2 component of value) and as a result, civilization is gradually being destroyed from inside.

To sum up… Being ugly is a crime against nature. But luckily we are not in nature, we are in civilization. And if we assume that we are in a civilization what should be important is not our looks but our ability to create, invent or simply be productive members of the society. If none of these holds then it is not a civilization. And to my understanding, the west is no longer a civilization.

What is happening now is civilization being destroyed and humanity is going back to primitivism.

Thanks for reading and what do you think!?

notes
*On this matter I would say that it is not important who is to be blamed for the inferiority of the female in creativity and power. It might be so that the female was underdeveloped since it had no chance to study and work:soy: (bluepill). Or it might be that she is inherently less intelligent due to biology (blackpill). I tend to agree with the second blackpilled argument. But I believe that it is utterly unimportant since it is clear that men are much more creative and smart and compensating females millions of years of female dis-development is too costly and bluepilled to be done.
 
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On top of this, we have enough evidence that polygamous societies (a consequence of hypergamy btw) become ultra violent.
 
Great post. I would add even Chads nowadays know they don't have to work because they are so valuable on the dating market just by looks. In addition even a Chad can't be sure that his wife won't get bored and go for another Chad at any time.

Men are adapting by not committing resources to women. For example an 8/10 Chadlite can have a pre-nuptial agreement where certain assets and certain things like inheritances are agreed to be separate from the marriage, before he marries. If the 8/10 woman he is thinking of marrying doesn't go along with that, men are more than happy to marry women who are not as good looking if they would be good wives. Men are not so looks obsessed as women because of biology.

Meanwhile normies who get blackpilled realize they are never going to lock down a wife for life, so they have no need to work hard. They only have to work hard enough to provide for 1 person, which is a fraction of the effort that would be required to support a whole family.
 
Great post. I would add even Chads nowadays know they don't have to work because they are so valuable on the dating market just by looks. In addition even a Chad can't be sure that his wife won't get bored and go for another Chad at any time.
True. Even Chads have no incentive to work hard because they are attractive due to their looks and not factor 2 qualities. Plus they can be cucked at any moment.
 
The value and price thing is high iq. Foids have almost no value and way over inflated price, like brand name clothes.
It might be so that the female was underdeveloped since it had no chance to study and work (bluepill). Or it might be that she is inherently less intelligent due to biology (blackpill). I tend to agree with the second blackpilled argument. But I believe that it is utterly unimportant since it is clear that men are much more creative and smart and compensating females millions of years of female dis-development is too costly and bluepilled to be done.
But but, to defeat the patriarchy we need to let women be on top for a million years to catch up with men in evolution before we become equal. :soy:
 
But but, to defeat the patriarchy we need to let women be on top for a million years to catch up with men in evolution before we become equal. :soy:
I have this soy argument tbh. The price that we have to pay to catch up is higher that everything we have now LOL.
And yes the price of women is inflated AF.
 
Women deserve to use up everything we have for their benefit you misogynist. :soy:
Let's ruin civilization just to virtue signal how fEmeNiSt we are :soy::soy::soy::soy:
 
Let's ruin civilization just to virtue signal how fEmeNiSt we are :soy::soy::soy::soy:
That's the spirit. Now our masters..I mean wahmen..won't think we're evil inkwells and might let us betabux them when they're single moms in their late 40's. :soy:
 
all comes down to our biological impulses. women's reproductive obligation is to find the most genetically desirable man, since she'll have to carry his offspring for nine months. men's reproductive obligation is just to plant their seed wherever they can. as a result pussy has inherent value, while men (outside of the most genetically desirable ones) do not. when you give women total sexual freedom, they as a collective will follow their natural impulse: exclusively pursue the most genetically valuable men.

to be clear this isn't my political opinion, it is just my analysis of evolutionary biology
 
Interdimensional IQ, in some kind of a way the SMV and hypergamy work on the same way as irl economy.
 
As long as we're alive it's good to blackpill men on how valueless foids are, especially if they're old non-virgin chad chasers. And slut shame them to decrease the price of the whorish foids even further.
 
Interdimensional IQ, in some kind of a way the SMV and hypergamy work on the same way as irl economy.
I think that almost everything is (or can be) subject to forces of supply and demand. But if we want something to be sacred and special then we shall keep it free from these powerful forces. namely, to regulate it.
all comes down to our biological impulses. women's reproductive obligation is to find the most genetically desirable man, since she'll have to carry his offspring for nine months. men's reproductive obligation is just to plant their seed wherever they can. as a result pussy has inherent value, while men (outside of the most genetically desirable ones) do not. when you give women total sexual freedom, they as a collective will follow their natural impulse: exclusively pursue the most genetically valuable men.

to be clear this isn't my political opinion, it is just my analysis of evolutionary biology
you right. but if we want to live in a civilization that maximizes human welfare, happiness and knowledge then we have to regulate biology at least to some extent.
As long as we're alive it's good to blackpill men on how valueless foids are, especially if they're old non-virgin chad chasers. And slut shame them to decrease the price of the whorish foids even further.
He who blackpills a single normie as if blackpiled a whole world.
 
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He who blackpills a single normie as if blackpiled a whole world.
High iq. We have already blackpilled many and we'll blackpill many others. We should be remembered in history forever, for being the ones who devalued foids in normie's minds after feminism.
 
I appreciate th3w work you put into this thread, we really need more high-IQ posters taking some time to make strong arguments vs. the mostly shit threads we read.

Nice work OP.
 
The field of hypergamy and its impact on civilization is a well-trodden and rich field, but I would like to add another perspective on that - the price vs value perspective.

Let's start with definitions:

Value - The value is composed of two factors: (1) relative abundance and (2) fundamental qualities.
The first factor is relative. It is defined by the relative abundance of something in relation to something else. The more abundant X is relative to Y the lower the value of X relative to Y, and visa versa.
The second is the fundamental and constant invariable that represents the inherent characteristics of something and incorporates its qualities (+) and flaws (-). Your value is how strong, good-looking, smart, etc you are.
What is more tricky is to understand the relative shares, or importance, of each part in the total definition of value. Namely, how many percents out of 100% is each factor?
Every value is a combination of the two factors and later I will propose a way to estimate the value of the “average” men.

Price - is merely information. It can be arbitrarily set by the governments or defined at the marketplace at the intersection of supply and demand, or as in the majority of cases, by the combination of the two. Unlike value, prices can fluctuate in response to changes in supply and demand or as a reaction to government intervention.

In Warren Buffett’s words… (which might be a paraphrasing someone else...)
MSlj6lX9W5JykRZnVGo8uqQJy4HDNDMPHMy71n_Poh0ii4LfZcGwY5PLtUuCv7ULsBpu4aVLaaTF869beXgNUOtpNJ1uJ0jizSTiTQhLX9ykaHee3Q-xY1nfiF3ETxiDwdTH29Jy

In fact, the glorious Warren Buffett made his billions on an intertemporal arbitrage between low price and high value… but it is for another post.

The Value of the Man
Let's understand first the fundamental value of the male and the female. Since value has two factors we should discuss them both and then decide what is the relative share of each factor.

Factor 1: Relative Abundance
What is the Male to Female ratio (known as sex ratio)? It is usually slightly above 1. Namely, there are slightly more men than women.
So, if the number of females is just slightly below the number of males then the value of a man is just a bit lower than the female value! WRONG!!!

Nature made us different and significantly lowered the value of the male in relation to the female. The fundamental value of men to women can perhaps be calculated as the ratio between the total number of sperm cells to the total number of egg cells in a given place/country. As you understand due to the abundance of sperm cells their number is just 10 millionth the price of an egg cell. Nature made the man WORTHLESS in relation to the female.

but we have another factor...

Factor 2: Fundamental Qualities
Here the male has the upper hand. Males have competed and improved themselves genetically through the brutal process of natural selection and increased their fundamental value by being stronger and smarter in relation to the female*.

Men learned and shaped their skills to provide and do complicated stuff which compensated immensely for the low-value nature has initially endowed them with.

A Composite Man's Value = (1-C)*Factor_1 +(C)*factor_2 (where C is 0 < C < 1 and named the Civilization factor)
What is the relative share of each factor (what is C)? Frankly, I don't know. But we can look at history to see that generally, the composite value of the male is roughly equal to the value of the female mainly because of the importance of Factor 2 (C is close to 1) - at least in a regulated sexual marketplace.

The Impact of Hypergamy on Price, Value, and the Civilization Factor - C
Accumulation of skills, self-improvement, and investments became possible when men realized that they and their descendants will be able to enjoy them and that it would attract women to them. When a man sees that his future effort can pay off he will be incentivized to compete, improve himself, save, invest, invent, and create because they know that they, or their descendants, will be able to enjoy the fruits of their toil. All these actions are immensely important and their sum defines what civilization is. If a man cannot secure the fruits of their effort there will be no civilization but rotting and degeneration. Exactly what we have today.

Mathematically, the closer the C to 1 the higher the importance of accumulated skills (factor 2) in mating and the lower importance of relative abundance (factor 1) and this the higher the level of civilization in the society. Namely, creative, hard-working males will find women or even several women so that the offsprings will be as good as they are.

In fact, civilization could rise ONLY AFTER the Sexual Marketplace has become regulated. Namely, regulation of the Sexual Marketplace and control of hypergamy is a PRECONDITION to civilization and not its consequence. At the same time, no civilization can exist with too high levels of hypergamy. Women promiscuity destroys civilization since men lose the incentive to do work hard to maintain the fruits of their toil - which in turn constitute what civilization is.

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On the left side, hypergamy is restrained - this is civilization. On the right side, there is barbarism and degeneracy.

On the Left, almost every male has an incentive to work hard and increase his Factor 2 value because he knows that it will pay off and he will get a woman. As a result, men invest, save, create, and invent - civilization is flourishing.

On the right side is hypergamy unchecked. Men understand that they will not get a woman so they have no incentive to work, study and invest - the factor 2 value is plummeting. Civilization is deteriorating: technological progress is slower, interest rates are low, consumerism, etc...

Hypergamy lowers the incentives to increase the fundamental male value (factor 2 component of value) and as a result, civilization is gradually being destroyed from inside.

To sum up… Being ugly is a crime against nature. But luckily we are not in nature, we are in civilization. And if we assume that we are in a civilization what should be important is not our looks but our ability to create, invent or simply be productive members of the society. If none of these holds then it is not a civilization. And to my understanding, the west is no longer a civilization.

What is happening now is civilization being destroyed and humanity is going back to primitivism.

Thanks for reading and what do you think!?

notes
*On this matter I would say that it is not important who is to be blamed for the inferiority of the female in creativity and power. It might be so that the female was underdeveloped since it had no chance to study and work:soy: (bluepill). Or it might be that she is inherently less intelligent due to biology (blackpill). I tend to agree with the second blackpilled argument. But I believe that it is utterly unimportant since it is clear that men are much more creative and smart and compensating females millions of years of female dis-development is too costly and bluepilled to be done.
This is Publishable level material, clear structure fantastc ideas and deductions, ONE PROBLEM, no publisher would touch it.
You would never get it printed in this Liberal environment, the market is tiny, truth is like poetry noone wants to hear it.
Your points are so concise and based upon widely accepted norms, eg basic economics and hypergamy, I love the way you use these laws and spin it and use it in the counter argement against the society we are in. Especially the point (which is a genius point), about the fact that the summation of your points concludes that we are in fact not living in a civilised society, that the facts and data expose this to be blatently true. Based upon the very foundation that makes up a society, what a working civilised society is predacated on, (eg men having an incentive to better themselves for a mate, and having a high chnace of securing their looks match).

GENIUS KEEP THESE POSTS GOING
 
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This is Publishable level material, clear structure fantastc ideas and deductions, ONE PROBLEM, no publisher would touch it.
You would never get it printed in this Liberal environment, the market is tiny, truth is like poetry noone wants to hear it.
Your points are so concise and based up widely accepted norms, eg basic economics and hypergamy, I love the way you use these laws and spin it and use it in the counter argement against the society we are in. Especially the point (which is a genius point), about the fact that the summation of your points concludes that we are in fact not living in a civilised society, that the facts and data expose this to be blatently true based upon the very foundation that makes up a society, what a working civilised society is predacated on (eg men having an incentive to better themselves for a mate, and having a high chnace of securing their looks match).

GENIUS KEEP THESE POSTS GOING
Over for failed academiccels like me :feelsrope:
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Never begun tbh.
 
Over for failed academiccels like me :feelsrope:
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Never begun tbh.
We group together and make a multi billion dollar company to wreck feminists and has a huge anti feminist agenda using all wealth to pop the balloon of self inflated worth.

are you in
 
We group together and make a multi billion dollar company to wreck feminists and has a huge anti feminist agenda using all wealth to pop the balloon of self inflated worth.

are you in
YES! PM.
 
Very good analysis, I wish we had a better more quantitative definition of civilization factor is but hopefully another high IQcel will come up with it. Btw I don't think there is a significant difference between male and female intelligence or potential. Women are just unmotivated to do jack shit with their brains when they enjoy privileged lives and when Chad is easily available to even most low quality women. Once again I love this post:feelsokman:pls theorize more.
Over for failed academiccels like me :feelsrope:
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Never begun tbh.
Are you a drop-out by any chance? Personally I am about to become one.
 
Are you a drop-out by any chance? Personally I am about to become one.
Thanks for the response!
No, I finished my MA but was not able to proceed for a PhD in a good program bcz of too low MA scores.
I had terrible depression during the MA. maybe that is an excuse and I am just a low IQ ass. IDK
 
Thanks for the response!
No, I finished my MA but was not able to proceed for a PhD in a good program bcz of too low MA scores.
I had terrible depression during the MA. maybe that is an excuse and I am just a low IQ ass. IDK
Oh well glad that you managed to finish Uni at least. You shouldn't be so hard on yourself many incels just LDAR. At least you have a degree.
 
Oh well glad that you managed to finish Uni at least. You shouldn't be so hard on yourself many incels just LDAR. At least you have a degree.
Getting a phd is going overboard, master's is more than enough. All I have is a bachelor's that took me over a decade to get after highschool.
 
H.G Wells Level IQ

Restricting the sexual market-place through religious customs was the backbone of our civilization. It is breaking down now but that is merely because the elites don't need the huddled masses anymore and realize civilization can function without men. Men were used throughout history as the drivers of progress and are now being tossed aside.
 
It's a massive cope to think that civilization wouldn't come without men. Women are just unmotivated to do anything, neither today nor were they in the past. A man of as much value and IQ as an average woman would just die alone in the wild. The brutal thruth is that men had to learn to be cooperative and intelligent to survive. And they evolved on par with women or at slightly advanced rate. But the difference is NOT crucial. Without men society won't revert to primitivism. Hundreds of millions of men just died so that women could evolve too. And now the vast majority of men are not needed anymore, to women they're just leftovers that should be disposed of. So radfems can safely put their designs into action.

Therefore man as a gender is cucked.
 
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Good post. Read every word
 
It's a massive cope to think that civilization wouldn't come without men. Women are just unmotivated to do anything, neither today nor were they in the past. A man of as much value and IQ as an average woman would just die alone in the wild. The brutal thruth is that men had to learn to be cooperative and intelligent to survive. And they evolved on par with women or at slightly advanced rate. But the difference is NOT crucial. Without men society won't revert to primitivism. Hundreds of millions of men just died so that women could evolve too. And now the vast majority of men are not needed anymore, to women they're just leftovers that should be disposed of. So radfems can safely put their designs into action.

Therefore man as a gender is cucked.
I don't agree it is quite. The difference between men and women is fundamental.
 
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Btw I don't think there is a significant difference between male and female intelligence or potential. Women are just unmotivated to do jack shit with their brains when they enjoy privileged lives and when Chad is easily available to even most low quality women
To be fair female geniuses have allways been very very rare
 
Really great topic, OP, congrats. I love how you literally quantized hypergamy through C, the tradeoff between degeneracy and civilization. We should further explore the link between economics and the Blackpill. The latter would shift from an Internet theory to a new scientific field.
 
That's why I call femasites cavecunts. The barbarism of Yajuuj and Majuuj can best be represented by their hypergamy and male disposability. No civilized people in history have left the majority of their men so hopeless. We are truly in prehistoric times. The world already ended. Only a Beta Uprising can start history again. When men rise up, we can celebrate year 1.
 
It's a massive cope to think that civilization wouldn't come without men. Women are just unmotivated to do anything, neither today nor were they in the past. A man of as much value and IQ as an average woman would just die alone in the wild. The brutal thruth is that men had to learn to be cooperative and intelligent to survive. And they evolved on par with women or at slightly advanced rate. But the difference is NOT crucial. Without men society won't revert to primitivism. Hundreds of millions of men just died so that women could evolve too. And now the vast majority of men are not needed anymore, to women they're just leftovers that should be disposed of. So radfems can safely put their designs into action.

Therefore man as a gender is cucked.
The problem is, those leftover men numbering in the millions may be undesirable to women but they are very much-needed to keep the society going. Someone has to toil the fields, work in factories or serve in the army. Women are too inefficient to do it reliably and Chads are too few in numbers and too busy slaying anyway.

The current band-aid solution is trying to plug the holes with unrestricted immigration and outsourcing everything to the Third World. Such short-sighted policies are destined to fail as they offer no real solution and long-term erode society even more. For the average guy, his value stems from labor and loyalty and he rightfully wants to be compensated for his work and dedication. Without reward there's no reason to work, beside the bare minimum to survive, and that bare minimum is not enough to keep the society going. Right now, it's Chads and women who get all the prise and rewards even though they contribute almost nothing themselves. For fucks sake, women don't even bear children anymore. Their fundamental utility is now gone. Civilization is a fruit of labor of the average Joe and nowadays he had been robbed of his birthright
 
The problem is, those leftover men numbering in the millions may be undesirable to women but they are very much-needed to keep the society going. Someone has to toil the fields, work in factories or serve in the army. Women are too inefficient to do it reliably and Chads are too few in numbers and too busy slaying anyway.

The current band-aid solution is trying to plug the holes with unrestricted immigration and outsourcing everything to the Third World. Such short-sighted policies are destined to fail as they offer no real solution and long-term erode society even more. For the average guy, his value stems from labor and loyalty and he rightfully wants to be compensated for his work and dedication. Without reward there's no reason to work, beside the bare minimum to survive, and that bare minimum is not enough to keep the society going. Right now, it's Chads and women who get all the prise and rewards even though they contribute almost nothing themselves. For fucks sake, women don't even bear children anymore. Their fundamental utility is now gone. Civilization is a fruit of labor of the average Joe and nowadays he had been robbed of his birthright
Absolutely high IQ analysis!
Thank you
 
Without reward there's no reason to work, beside the bare minimum to survive, and that bare minimum is not enough to keep the society going.
Massive cope, these days people will do a lot of things for just $5
Look at fiverr.

Back then you have to pay a lot for professional services, now a lot of freelancers are willing to do that for very little money. Its crazy.

The internet doesnt only change the dating market, everything else is effected.

Back then you need to pay what $30 to talk to a doctor, now doctor consultation is free through the internet or you only have to pay a very small fee.

Back then you have to go to stores if u need something, now just open amazon / other online store and you can see all your options and sort everything by price / rating.

Everything is much more competitive now, after internet becomes easily accessible.

Youre saying theres not enough people (even just white people) willing to be farmers, soldiers, etc?

Its quite the opposite, people these days will do the dirtiest work for very little pay and very little job security, even people with college degrees and experience are dying for any job at all, so they can pay their bills and not end up homeless.

A lot of high school grads join the military cause they cant afford college otherwise, and without college, youll only ever get shitty jobs these days.

The job market is more competitive than ever boyo, even without the immigrants.
Just allowing women in the work force doubles the work force, and then they have quota for women, this already forces most men to work harder, not to mention quota for other groups.

Cope if u think development of tech now is slower than ever,
Production is lower lmao

A lot of men will work their ass of to keep their ass off the street.
A lot of men will work harder to improve their finance, personality and looks cause they realize getting foid now is harder than ever.

People respond to blackpill differently, some just give up and rot.
Some respond to it by upping their game and working even harder, trying to up their bread or improve their looks and style. cause they just dont wanna give up on foid and be a permavirgin.

A lot of men are willing to work real hard withou wife or kids, just to be able to afford gl prostitute / stripper, to cope with travel / food. Or even just to donate money to camwhores / onlyfans lmao.
 
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Massive cope, these days people will do a lot of things for just $5
Look at fiverr.

Back then you have to pay a lot for professional services, now a lot of freelancers are willing to do that for very little money. Its crazy.

The internet doesnt only change the dating market, everything else is effected.

Back then you need to pay what $30 to talk to a doctor, now doctor consultation is free through the internet or you only have to pay a very small fee.

Back then you have to go to stores if u need something, now just open amazon / other online store and you can see all your options and sort everything by price / rating.

Everything is much more competitive now, after internet becomes easily accessible.

Youre saying theres not enough people (even just white people) willing to be farmers, soldiers, etc?

Its quite the opposite, people these days will do the dirtiest work for very little pay and very little job security, even people with college degrees and experience are dying for any job at all, so they can pay their bills and not end up homeless.

A lot of high school grads join the military cause they cant afford college otherwise, and without college, youll only ever get shitty jobs these days.

The job market is more competitive than ever boyo, even without the immigrants.
Just allowing women in the work force doubles the work force, and then they have quota for women, this already forces most men to work harder, not to mention quota for other groups.

Cope if u think development of tech now is slower than ever,
Production is lower lmao

A lot of men will work their ass of to keep their ass off the street.
A lot of men will work harder to improve their finance, personality and looks cause they realize getting foid now is harder than ever.

People respond to blackpill differently, some just give up and rot.
Some respond to it by upping their game and working even harder, trying to up their bread or improve their looks and style. cause they just dont wanna give up on foid and be a permavirgin.

A lot of men are willing to work real hard withou wife or kids, just to be able to afford gl prostitute / stripper, to cope with travel / food. Or even just to donate money to camwhores / onlyfans lmao.
I hope you will manage to remain optimistic and empowered for ever. Yet, let's me express me opinion.

First, Are you into Milton Freidman and Ayn Rand works? I abhor both.

Now... It is indeed true that people are eager to work for pennies. But is it that good? They accept this precarious life because the alternative is poverty and shaming.

You think being a "freelancer" is that good? You confuse freedom with slavery. In the current labor the worker - the human being - is the exchangeable detail, a cog, a liability on the balance sheet, the slack variable that bares the costs of macro adjustments.

I dont see how this "effectivness" plays into your hands. This effectiveness plays into the hands of big capital who instead of hiring you and commiting for you (like in the past) are hiring you as "freelance" in a zero hour contract - cannon folder in the world of work.

Tech progress is high in areas that are meant to make labor cheaper. But not in areas to make you happier, healthier, more secure and empowered.

Most importantly, The marginal and the average return on works for our generation is significantly lower then for the previous one, and are especially lower for a man.

This is why men are opting out for the work force and society. Not because they are lazy pussies but because there is no point in working hard if the price of your work has been reduced to zero by fierce competition and your effort can be reduced to ashes just because of illness. Plus because of hypergamy no matter how hard you wageslave you can be exchange by your roastie for a better providing cuck and him for even better one. Can't you see that something is fucked up in this competition?

Look at research about demographic like this one:

It is not even a competition. Because competition has defined rules that all the contestants accept and respect. But here the rules are changing DURING the game. And never in your favor.

It playing cards with a card sharper. Good luck with it.

Now seriously. The blackpill has a suicidal self-defiating component. No doubt. But if you think that your ascending is guaranteed if you just "work your ass off", "improve your personality", and looks than you might be disappointed. I dont want you, nor any one else, play with sharpers in a rigged game. Its not fair and not healthy for you.

PM me if you wish to discuss it further.
 
This is one of the most blackpilled threads on this entire forum. Well done.

Even stereotypes of melanin-enriched gentlemen reinforce this idea that matriarchy, non-provider males with fast life history, and criminal/violent behavior results in a stunted civilization. Africans were living in straw and mud huts for the longest time, there wasn't any incentive to advance civilization or technology.
 
I love it!
Do you have interesting ideas?

I am not an economist ngl but I'd say :
1) The 80/20 rule
2) Why sub8 men simp to women
3) Why Chad has harems and women simp to him
4) Where is the boundary between incel/normie struggling to have sex and Chad having harems
5) How feminism is a burden for the economy (already partially answered in the topic)
6) How dating apps work
 
I am not an economist ngl but I'd say :
1) The 80/20 rule
2) Why sub8 men simp to women
3) Why Chad has harems and women simp to him
4) Where is the boundary between incel/normie struggling to have sex and Chad having harems
5) How feminism is a burden for the economy (already partially answered in the topic)
6) How dating apps work
based as fuck tbh.
I will try to write something about it and foid tutorialmod in economics.
PM me if you want to discuss it.
This is one of the most blackpilled threads on this entire forum. Well done.

Even stereotypes of melanin-enriched gentlemen reinforce this idea that matriarchy, non-provider males with fast life history, and criminal/violent behavior results in a stunted civilization. Africans were living in straw and mud huts for the longest time, there wasn't any incentive to advance civilization or technology.
Civilization should be judged based on the opportunities it provided for the incels to ascend.
No opportunities no civilization.
 
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High IQ analysis.

You've effectively proven what the ancients knew and what some of now know: unchecked hypergamy is the most destructive force in any civilization.

When you see the phrase "women's rights were a mistake" that's not a memey catchphrase, it's a black pill. Giving women equal rights was starting the engine of Western civilization's destruction.

A side effect which you could explore is how the tendency to move away from civilization has the effect obscenely inflating the price of pussy vs its value (both real and relative). The correlation, I'd wager, is significantly positive. We see it on a smaller scale in how often there's a very noticeable attrativeness disparity between the men and women, where the attractiveness of the man is many points higher, and how the man's factor 2 is usually very high (financially secure, career etc.).

The price of pussy keeps getting inflated in a society tending towards barbarism (away from civilization), while its real value drops. We see its effects on a cultural level when landwhales demand nothing less than chads (and sadly get them sometimes), and how society normalizes and encourages this behavior ("fat acceptance", "body positivity" etc., but only for women).

@SergeantIncel Please put this thread in the must read section.
 
smart kike will read
True. Even Chads have no incentive to work hard because they are attractive due to their looks and not factor 2 qualities. Plus they can be cucked at any moment.
yea i hate toilets
 
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