Boba libs love complaining about how asian men face difficulties in "leadership" and how asian men are "emasculated", all the while telling us to be puppets of asian feminists who say we're patriarchal and tell us to be the exact opposite of what we need to be: more confident, more masculine, more outspoken. (East asian culture is already the least patriarchal and men least socially-dominant)
Asian men of course should NOT replicate how other cultures mistreat women but we should be proud of our own masculinity, be more expressive and less constrained by these traditional norms that tell us who we should date for the benefit of the "family", that we should keep quiet and be good sons.
Edit: this is applicable to the main population centers of east Asia. The more north you go, the more nomadic and less this applies. The more south you go, the more agrarian, developed and where "overt masculinity" is less encouraged. The propaganda against asian men is based on the more "southern" stereotype of east asians. Masculinity is very much still promoted in places like Mongolia, vs. a place like Thailand, for example.
Point 1: In E. Asian culture sons are constrained in who they date, females are allowed to date whoever they want
Traditionally the family imposes more constraints on son's dating choices than daughter's. East asian families often tell sons they must date within a race or have a certain spouse, while daughters are free to date freely.
This is the reverse of almost every other culture in the world. It's well known for example in Middle East families sons can freely date outside their religion while women are stoned for not adhering to the moral code. In the west you probably have to gain permission of the father to marry "his" daughter. This type of possessiveness over women is non-existent in Asia.
Asian men should not feel limited by tradition. It is irresponsible for parents to hold sons to an unreasonable standard that simply does not work outside of east Asia.
Point 2: Open expression of masculinity is NOT SOCIALLY ACCEPTED in E. Asian societies, "feminine" men are encouraged and promoted in mass media.
Catcalling, hollering, slapping women, NONE of that type of behavior would be remotely acceptable in any east asian society!
Open expression of masculinity is incredibly frowned upon in East asian societies and the dominating traits are non-existent.
Billboards showing men in China or Korea all emphasize the "soft" / youthful look, not the rugged hyper "masculine" look that predominates on non-asian advertising.
The "sissy man" phenomenon in China is a well reported phenomenon that is unique to east asian societies. We don't see nearly the same level of promotion of "feminine" men in other cultures.
The "soft man" is prized in China, over the rugged masculine look. K-pop emphasizes soft traits like hairstyle and makeup. Asian men in Korea use makeup and don't have any conception of insecurity as it relates to their masculinity. They dress in stylish clothing without fear it may take away from their "masculinity"
Walk on any street in a major city in China and you see men carrying women's bags and purses while shopping. This is unheard of in any other place in the world.
Meanwhile, women walking down street alone in most other cities in the world get catcalled, hollered at, slapped... NONE of that type of behavior would be remotely acceptable in any east asian society!
Asian men should reject the traditional limitations on expression of masculinity and be more confident, proud of themselves, individualistic, and assertive. Masculinity needs to be encouraged not discouraged.
Point 3: SE Asian societies are the most sexually open in the world, the capital of the world for transgender women, and there is zero mate-guarding behavior when foreigners come in and exploit locals
SE Asian societies are some of the most open sexually, while western countries are talking about LGBTQ+ rights like it's something new, SE Asia places like Thailand have practiced this for decades and men routinely become transgender women (it's the capital of the world with the highest population of transgender men, and transgender surgeries are top notch in SE Asia because they are done so routinely there). Women are extremely loose.
It's no coincidence that western sexpats love traveling to these countries to take advantage of this sexually accepting and non-discriminatory environment. This is not necessarily a good thing, but there is ZERO mate-guarding going on here. If foreigners tried doing that anywhere else in the world they'd probably be hunted down by a mob by locals. This lack of mate-guarding and sexually loose protocol BTW is completely pathetic and if locals ever grew a spine they would speak out against this exploitative practice.
Asian men should develop better social awareness, not view foreigners with naive rose-colored lens, and reject exploitation of local women. This is the true human rights and humanitarian tragedy in Asia.
Point 4: Dowry is reversed in east asian societies, men are expected to pay women
East asian dowry is the reverse of every other culture in the world. East asian groom is expected to pay the bride's family.
It's even more extreme in China where men are expected to not only pay reverse dowry but also have significant material assets, including million-dollar homes just to get married.
It's even true when dating, men are expected to pay for dates.
Asian men should reject traditional expectations on men and support independence to date and marry based on who we love, and reject women who chase after materialistic possessions.
Point 5: More female CEOs and billionaires in China as percentage than any other country
There are more female CEO's and leaders and billionaires as a percentage in China than in any other western country. This is a fact that is well acknowledged.
Point 6: Women traditionally work in Communist China
Labor force participation by women has been encouraged since the communists took power in China, and Chinese women entered the workforce in a far greater percentage than western countries historically.
Point 7: Practically ZERO domestic and sexual violence in E. Asian men, as backed by FBI crime data
Domestic violence and sexual violence in the form seen in the west and other countries is practically non-existent in East asia. Even diaspora asian men have the lowest rate of violent crime and sexual assault against women, as shown in FBI crime data.
It's well understood that walking as a woman alone in a dark street at night in a city in an East Asian country is much, much safer than in most other countries.
Point 8: Women do not become property of husband and change their last name
Asian women do not change their last names to match their husband. The western tradition is rooted in the misogynistic insecurity of men who want to keep women loyal by holding their identities hostage.
Point 9: Asia has had more female heads of state in the recent decade than Europe or America.
South Korea, Taiwan, Myanmar, etc. Women were also much more involved in ruling dynasties in Chinese history than European women. They often exercised their power as a surrogate of a male child.
Point 10: Asian women have much more influence over their family’s finances
wives expect their husband to hand their paycheck or bank account to them so she can determine the budgeting. In the more individualist Western society, there is little coordination; both partners are left guessing as to what their financial situations will look like later. (u/coldwarssuck)
Points 5-10: Nothing wrong with these, but asian men need to learn better marketing skills to talk about their culture and its virtues from a moral standpoint. This is something whites are great at - soft power and ability to persuade, but asians are terrible at, even when we clearly have better treatment of women in our cultures.\*
Asians in Asia should be the ones calling out the extreme misogyny of the west, the human rights tragedy that faces women in the west. Not the other way around!
Asian men of course should NOT replicate how other cultures mistreat women but we should be proud of our own masculinity, be more expressive and less constrained by these traditional norms that tell us who we should date for the benefit of the "family", that we should keep quiet and be good sons.
Edit: this is applicable to the main population centers of east Asia. The more north you go, the more nomadic and less this applies. The more south you go, the more agrarian, developed and where "overt masculinity" is less encouraged. The propaganda against asian men is based on the more "southern" stereotype of east asians. Masculinity is very much still promoted in places like Mongolia, vs. a place like Thailand, for example.
Point 1: In E. Asian culture sons are constrained in who they date, females are allowed to date whoever they want
Traditionally the family imposes more constraints on son's dating choices than daughter's. East asian families often tell sons they must date within a race or have a certain spouse, while daughters are free to date freely.
This is the reverse of almost every other culture in the world. It's well known for example in Middle East families sons can freely date outside their religion while women are stoned for not adhering to the moral code. In the west you probably have to gain permission of the father to marry "his" daughter. This type of possessiveness over women is non-existent in Asia.
Asian men should not feel limited by tradition. It is irresponsible for parents to hold sons to an unreasonable standard that simply does not work outside of east Asia.
Point 2: Open expression of masculinity is NOT SOCIALLY ACCEPTED in E. Asian societies, "feminine" men are encouraged and promoted in mass media.
Catcalling, hollering, slapping women, NONE of that type of behavior would be remotely acceptable in any east asian society!
Open expression of masculinity is incredibly frowned upon in East asian societies and the dominating traits are non-existent.
Billboards showing men in China or Korea all emphasize the "soft" / youthful look, not the rugged hyper "masculine" look that predominates on non-asian advertising.
The "sissy man" phenomenon in China is a well reported phenomenon that is unique to east asian societies. We don't see nearly the same level of promotion of "feminine" men in other cultures.
The "soft man" is prized in China, over the rugged masculine look. K-pop emphasizes soft traits like hairstyle and makeup. Asian men in Korea use makeup and don't have any conception of insecurity as it relates to their masculinity. They dress in stylish clothing without fear it may take away from their "masculinity"
Walk on any street in a major city in China and you see men carrying women's bags and purses while shopping. This is unheard of in any other place in the world.
Meanwhile, women walking down street alone in most other cities in the world get catcalled, hollered at, slapped... NONE of that type of behavior would be remotely acceptable in any east asian society!
Asian men should reject the traditional limitations on expression of masculinity and be more confident, proud of themselves, individualistic, and assertive. Masculinity needs to be encouraged not discouraged.
Point 3: SE Asian societies are the most sexually open in the world, the capital of the world for transgender women, and there is zero mate-guarding behavior when foreigners come in and exploit locals
SE Asian societies are some of the most open sexually, while western countries are talking about LGBTQ+ rights like it's something new, SE Asia places like Thailand have practiced this for decades and men routinely become transgender women (it's the capital of the world with the highest population of transgender men, and transgender surgeries are top notch in SE Asia because they are done so routinely there). Women are extremely loose.
It's no coincidence that western sexpats love traveling to these countries to take advantage of this sexually accepting and non-discriminatory environment. This is not necessarily a good thing, but there is ZERO mate-guarding going on here. If foreigners tried doing that anywhere else in the world they'd probably be hunted down by a mob by locals. This lack of mate-guarding and sexually loose protocol BTW is completely pathetic and if locals ever grew a spine they would speak out against this exploitative practice.
Asian men should develop better social awareness, not view foreigners with naive rose-colored lens, and reject exploitation of local women. This is the true human rights and humanitarian tragedy in Asia.
Point 4: Dowry is reversed in east asian societies, men are expected to pay women
East asian dowry is the reverse of every other culture in the world. East asian groom is expected to pay the bride's family.
It's even more extreme in China where men are expected to not only pay reverse dowry but also have significant material assets, including million-dollar homes just to get married.
It's even true when dating, men are expected to pay for dates.
Asian men should reject traditional expectations on men and support independence to date and marry based on who we love, and reject women who chase after materialistic possessions.
Point 5: More female CEOs and billionaires in China as percentage than any other country
There are more female CEO's and leaders and billionaires as a percentage in China than in any other western country. This is a fact that is well acknowledged.
Point 6: Women traditionally work in Communist China
Labor force participation by women has been encouraged since the communists took power in China, and Chinese women entered the workforce in a far greater percentage than western countries historically.
Point 7: Practically ZERO domestic and sexual violence in E. Asian men, as backed by FBI crime data
Domestic violence and sexual violence in the form seen in the west and other countries is practically non-existent in East asia. Even diaspora asian men have the lowest rate of violent crime and sexual assault against women, as shown in FBI crime data.
It's well understood that walking as a woman alone in a dark street at night in a city in an East Asian country is much, much safer than in most other countries.
Point 8: Women do not become property of husband and change their last name
Asian women do not change their last names to match their husband. The western tradition is rooted in the misogynistic insecurity of men who want to keep women loyal by holding their identities hostage.
Point 9: Asia has had more female heads of state in the recent decade than Europe or America.
South Korea, Taiwan, Myanmar, etc. Women were also much more involved in ruling dynasties in Chinese history than European women. They often exercised their power as a surrogate of a male child.
Point 10: Asian women have much more influence over their family’s finances
wives expect their husband to hand their paycheck or bank account to them so she can determine the budgeting. In the more individualist Western society, there is little coordination; both partners are left guessing as to what their financial situations will look like later. (u/coldwarssuck)
Points 5-10: Nothing wrong with these, but asian men need to learn better marketing skills to talk about their culture and its virtues from a moral standpoint. This is something whites are great at - soft power and ability to persuade, but asians are terrible at, even when we clearly have better treatment of women in our cultures.\*
Asians in Asia should be the ones calling out the extreme misogyny of the west, the human rights tragedy that faces women in the west. Not the other way around!
