especially when itis always being questioned every day
is a structure built on a lie doomed to collapse?
is a structure built on a lie doomed to collapse?
Good question. I would say yes truth always prevails at the end. A good example is the blackpill in itself, no matter how much bluepill brainwashing there is, the blackpill is always going to be there and collect
No truth is just another medium to manipulate the population based on the subjective nature of it.
There is only 1 truth as there is only 1 reality.
No, the jews do
You must be retarded
Mhm... Learn a little bit of BASIC logic and science.
Learn a bit of basics on killing yourself.
Gen z when he hears the word "learning":
Depends within which framework. If you’re white then no
No, not always. When the truth eventually emerges, it is often buried underneath a pile of other lies or so much time has passed that it no longer matters if people know the truth.
No
Human beings are much more likely to be irrational and prone to falling back on their biases. The truth doesn't matter to anyone so much as the outward superficial appearance of seeming correct. Even if one isn't right at all.
No. One time wins truth, one time a lie
One of the names of god in ISLAM is the truth. Since he is the only truth because truth always stays and never dies but everything perishes except god so he is the ultimate truth and his dominion and will is greater and always prevails.
This is the ugly truth. And in the end most people don't care because they want life to be easy.
Winning is what makes people feel better. The vast majority of people can't accept harsh truth
In the mind it does, on display no.
Truth is always there not accepting it won't mean you defeated it
No; normies stay deluded and ignorant for their whole lives. They are conditioned and brainwashed and they will never acknowledge the truth. Normies' entire life is one big lie and cope and they are all oversocialized by society
B
Yes, because the truth is immutable, whereas falsehoods have no solid foundation of its own and depend on other falsehoods (and/or "half truths") surrounding it for its strength. Falsehoods built on truths will eventually wither and fall, revealing the underlying truth beneath. Falsehoods need other falsehoods, but truth stands on its own.
That's exactly it, it's impossible for a system of lies not to generate an error at some point, it's like you generating shitty code, lying to your boss and thinking that it will never produce a glitch.
If a lie is structural then it is subjective,
B
I don't know what this statement means.
If you can generate an entire structure that doesn't fall with a lie, then it's not that really a lie, It is subjective what would be true and false in this case
an example of this is non-Euclidean geometry, denial of the 5 postulate
B
Changing the fifth postulate does not make it a lie, because lie = false. The fifth postulate is an axiom, which are taken as self-evidently true in that system (or structure). They are, by definition, true and not false (lie). In the case of the fifth postulate in non-Euclidean geometry being "false," yes, the "lie" of the fifth postulate falls apart in non-Euclidean geometry, but that doesn't mean that true and false are themselves subjective as a result. It simply means that you cannot reach true conclusions in both systems in the same way. You're making a logical leap.
yah
B
OK. Is there something you'd like to add or amend?
I'm just saying that if you close yourself off from Euclidean geometry, (im not without actually judging metamathematical logical values, just using it as an example) if you close yourself off from Euclidean geometry and consider everything that denies the 5 postulates as false, non-Euclidean geometry would challenge this "false" for the results it generates
the subjectivity I want to talk about in this case is just the ability of two opposing statements to work
B
I see. I think my confusion stemmed from the (mis)use of the word "subjective," which is a common problem (the misuse of the word, not my confusion
). A better word might have been variability, as in varies.I want to reiterate the point that truth values of propositions are not subjective (or variable). They are always either true or false, but not alternating or in-between (at least in bivalent logic). The "subjective" part that you seem to be alluding to is the conclusions we reach. Certainly, those can easily changed based on the truth values of those propositions.
Eventually, all truthers become Nazis
why the fuck are people disagreeing with this?
it's valid that there is always one truth for any given fact present in our current reality
it's basic logic.
literally fucking basic logic
nope, the truth only prevails if the people lying get sloppy. When the truth gets revealed, its usually due to incompetence of the people lying
Quran 17:81
S
It depends on which race is winning and in power. If Jews or non-whites win, then truth loses. If whites win then truth wins. Jews have been winning for most of human history, so lies have been winning.
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