Does stoicism work?

[Pasteleiro]

I've been reading about stoicism. It seems like an excellent way to cope with inceldom but I don't know how to put the teachings in practice.

 

[A Good Friend]

Yes, until it doesn't.

 

[idkwattodowithlife]

Sometimes too much pain seeps in. Sometimes there's too much pain to bear within you. Everyone has a bit of their own limits.

There are just times, when we're in a vulnerable state to break out, and every now, and then we do have our moments of weaknesses. Sometimes, you just gotta speak upon your pain to break free, and remaining silent when you're at your darkest hours isn't a good idea.

In someways, you're going to need an outlet to keep yourself sane and somewhere to vent about, luckily you have incels.is to do that.

 

[blickpall]

You have to be strong af mentally for it to work. It's hard to get started.

It doesn't solve everything, but yes it can be a powerful cope. It can really change your life.

 

[jagged0]

Most humans are incapable of maintaining a stoic state 24/7 unless they're a psychopath whom have no emotions to begin with.

 

[idkwattodowithlife]

@Tempus Edax Rerum

 

[Deleted member 1252]

Nothing works.

 

[Battlefield3cel]

Work in what sense?

 

[Pasteleiro]

Yes, until it doesn't.

Like every form of coping.

Sometimes too much pain seeps in. Sometimes there's too much pain to bear within you. Everyone has a bit of their own limits.

There are just times, when we're in a vulnerable state to break out, and every now, and then we do have our moments of weaknesses. Sometimes, you just gotta speak upon your pain to break free, and remaining silent when you're at your darkest hours isn't a good idea.

In someways, you're going to need an outlet to keep yourself sane and somewhere to vent about, luckily you have incels.is to do that.

You want to be where you can see
Our troubles are all the same
You want to be where everybody knows your name.

You have to be strong af mentally for it to work. It's hard to get started.

It doesn't solve everything, but yes it can be a powerful cope. It can really change your life.

Well... if I were mentally strong being a incel wouldn't bother me so much. Any tips?

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Work in what sense?

In the sense of easing the pain of life's hardships.

Most humans are incapable of maintaining a stoic state 24/7 unless they're a psychopath whom have no emotions to begin with.

Nothing works 24/7. As long as it works well enough. It will be perfect.

 

[blickpall]

Well... if I were mentally strong being a incel wouldn't bother me so much. Any tips?

Start small and simple. Don't rush into it by reading all of Meditations and a couple other books in one day, then completely changing your life schedule for the next day. You're practically guaranteed to fail. You need to go about it like you would paint an impressionist painting - you can't just dump a bunch of paint on a canvas and paint the whole thing at once, unless you're a shitty modern artist I guess. You need to carefully paint one little bit by bit until you are done. In other words, make small changes with small goals that gradually accumulate and lay a foundation of stoic behaviors and outlooks, and then use that foundation to introduce more difficult ones.

 

[Deleted member 306]

Nothing works

 

[Pasteleiro]

Start small and simple. Don't rush into it by reading all of Meditations and a couple other books in one day, then completely changing your life schedule for the next day. You're practically guaranteed to fail. You need to go about it like you would paint an impressionist painting - you can't just dump a bunch of paint on a canvas and paint the whole thing at once, unless you're a shitty modern artist I guess. You need to carefully paint one little bit by bit until you are done. In other words, make small changes with small goals that gradually accumulate and lay a foundation of stoic behaviors and outlooks, and then use that foundation to introduce more difficult ones.

Thank you. That was a great advice. My "great plan" was to read Meditations daily. Eventually I would become a stoic.

 

[blickpall]

Thank you. That was a great advice. My "great plan" was to read Meditations daily. Eventually I would become a stoic.

That's not really how it works I think, haha. You change your life by doing not thinking about doing or reading about doing. No one has been shown to have thought their way out of depression, for example. If you haven't read it at all yet, I suggest you give it one go first - I think if you internalize the concepts over time, slowly, you will see why your original plan was counter to what the book itself would suggest. The way I read it was a page or two a day, taking time to put the book down and think about what is said. You don't read it like a novel or essay, you read it like a collection of quotes or a strategy guide, taking pauses to understand the implications of what is written, the reasons behind it, mulling it over until you accept it into your consciousness.

 

[Pasteleiro]

That's not really how it works I think, haha. You change your life by doing not thinking about doing or reading about doing. No one has been shown to have thought their way out of depression, for example. If you haven't read it at all yet, I suggest you give it one go first - I think if you internalize the concepts over time, slowly, you will see why your original plan was counter to what the book itself would suggest. The way I read it was a page or two a day, taking time to put the book down and think about what is said. You don't read it like a novel or essay, you read it like a collection of quotes or a strategy guide, taking pauses to understand the implications of what is written, the reasons behind it, mulling it over until you accept it into your consciousness.

I read it in a similar way. I'm reading for the second time, reading even slower to be able to understand more clearly.

 

[Battlefield3cel]

In the sense of easing the pain of life's hardships. 

I guess. From a philosophical point of view, Marcus Aurelius had more experience than anyone else from that time period