Discussion Does refusing to escortcel make you a volcel?

[Sans]

I see quite a bit of debate on this topic. Some say that people who escortcel are cucks because they pay women for sex, and/or that they are not incels because they have had sex. However, does refusing to escortcel make you a volcel, since you have the opportunity to pay for sex but you don’t take it?

I wonder what the general consensus is. Personally, I wouldn’t escortcel, unless maybe I had a terminal disease and didn’t want to die a virgin. Even then, though, maybe I should keep my dignity by staying a virgin.

 

[Deleted member 5161]

Absolutely not.

For many of us, inceldom is not just the frustration of not being able to have sex, it's about the greater problem of not being able to get a genuine romantic relationship -- true love with a woman who craves you as much as you crave her. Many of us here desire a classic Americana nuclear family -- a house, a wife and kids, a career to sustain your family, a dog maybe.

I don't have anything against anyone who escortcels. But don't pretend that orgasming inside of someone fills the void left by not having a romantic partner who cares about you.

 

[Deleted member 19756]

I see quite a bit of debate on this topic. Some say that people who escortcel are cucks because they pay women for sex, and/or that they are not incels because they have had sex. However, does refusing to escortcel make you a volcel, since you have the opportunity to pay for sex but you don’t take it?

I wonder what the general consensus is. Personally, I wouldn’t escortcel, unless maybe I had a terminal disease and didn’t want to die a virgin. Even then, though, maybe I should keep my dignity by staying a virgin.

I only got an escort when I thought I might be killed. I would have never done it otherwise. It's better to focus on moneymaxxing while you are young.

 

[FukFeminism]

Absolutely not.

For many of us, inceldom is not just the frustration of not being able to have sex, it's about the greater problem of not being able to get a genuine romantic relationship -- true love with a woman who craves you as much as you crave her. Many of us here desire a classic Americana nuclear family -- a house, a wife and kids, a career to sustain your family, a dog maybe.

I don't have anything against anyone who escortcels. But don't pretend that orgasming inside of someone fills the void left by not having a romantic partner who cares about you.

 

[Deleted member 7573]

no man, or else we would consider escorteceling as ascension wich is not the case.

 

[BraincelsRefugee]

It doesn't. Does escortceling even count as ascending? You're not in a relationship with your escort, and being celibate means abstinence from sexual relationships. You can't be volcel if there was no prospect of a sexual relationship in the first place.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

I escortcel occasionally. Escortceling doesn't absolve you of the problem that result from lack of genuine human connection based on mutual attraction. Escorts who are very good at giving gf experiences might give better experiences than an actual gf, but they aren't genuine. The real question, is it possible for foids to love males as we do them? What is goldigging but multiyear long escortceling? Are all marriages made for financial reasons escortceling? If they are, are goldigger marriages and betabux marriages ascension? I would argue they aren't. Yet, those two types of marriages constitute the vast majority of marriages.

I believe escortceling is the best sub 6 males can do. If you marry, the foid will very likely not have a connection for you and will simply be using you.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Inceldom is about your natural appeal to foids, not your sexual status or lack of.

 

[TheUnfortunateLad]

Fucking a paid whore doesn’t count, you are basically still a virgin. I even went as far as to make an appointment with one and felt utterly disgusted with myself. Most self-respect I’ve ever had tbh.

 

[Tempus Edax Rerum]

Better question would be. After having had sex with a hooker, how can you still call yourself "involuntary celibate"?

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Escortcelling isn't ascension. Full stop.

It's an expensive cope. A very good cope depending on your experiences but nonetheless a cope.

Betabuxxing will never be ascension for that matter.

no man, or else we would consider escorteceling as ascension wich is not the case.

Somebody said it before me. Respect.

 

[Deleted member 20987]

Some say that people who escortcel are cucks.

Correct.

90% of your money goes to a pimp, the other 10% goes to the escort's boyfriend with her paying for his date and a meal.

Seen this first-hand, and witnessed it in person.

Also do your below surface research to discover many ex-prostitutes end up broke and borderline suicidal.

Oh and I did I also mention prostitutes hate incels as much as any other femoid would?

 

[Glokta]

For me at least, frequenting hookers seems pretty cucked. You still reward foids for their holes. You support their lifestyle and their whorish ways. Every slut now has a backup strategy when she needs some extra cash under the counter. You slave away in your wageslave job only to give them your money so so they can continue to live a comfortable life on your expense. You transfer hours of your time spend at work for minutes of her time lying on a bed. Hell, an escort most likely earns more than what an average guy does working an honest job, and she doesn't even has to pay taxes either. There's not much stigma for being a hooker either. Only male clients are shunned while prostitutes are seen as brave and emancipated. Only uncucked prostitution is paying hookers with your NEETbuxx. You get some and normalfags pay for it.

However, I won't stand between a man and his cope. I'm ok with others frequenting hookers. I wouldn't call them 'incel' as they aren't celibate at all but they do provide an interesting and valuable knowledge of the blackpill from a different angle.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

It's against my morals and religion to have premarital sex. I would never have sex with any woman that I didn't plan to marry or was already married to. With that said, I've never even kissed a foid, so this hasn't been a factor in me not having sex yet.

 

[newlyawakened]

No, an incel seeing a hooker is like a hobo getting drunk or shooting up. We do it to make ourselves feel better about our shitty situation.

 

[grondilu]

I don't have anything against anyone who escortcels. But don't pretend that orgasming inside of someone fills the void left by not having a romantic partner who cares about you.

I must be weird because I really think I never had this desire. I really just wanted to fuck beautiful women.

I mean, of course I thought about being romantically tied to a female and the perspective surely was nice but I can barely remember desiring this, I just assume I did but really the desire to finally do the thing what was mattered to me.

The thing is : sex is not always great. Often it just feels like you're masturbating inside a woman. But when it's great, it's fucking fantastic.

It's also not so hard to emulate tenderness and that kind of stuff, if you can get to know a hooker well enough.

Prostitution has existed for millennia as a way for society to deal with guys like us. Give it a chance.