Serious Does behavior/attitude matter more than some aspies think?

[throwawayseeker]

No doubt denying looks theory is legit retarded, but have some of us overlooked behavior theory as an extension of looks maybe?

Was reading this tid bit on Lookism and can't help but wonder if behavior can make up for slightly below average looks or average++ looks when enough looks can't meet the demands of most women. I've seen low inhib/IDGAF attitude guys that get laid that aren't facially attractive, but aren't ugly either -- pretty much dead average. I always wonder how maxing this out can help me since I'm not incel-tier (4.5-5 PSL) but still question how much this has real significance when you're sub 8 and how much success is possible. Not standard PUA bullshit, but just how you carry yourself and body language/etc. Obviously I can't see this working if you're beneath a certain level of looks or rarely happening, but what are the thoughts on behavior theory here? Some incels here hold on to other -cel issues besides looks, but is it logical?

Can things other than looks fuck us if we don't maximize in every possible way needed? Or do we just need to be Chad for all of our other shortcomings to be ignored? If we can't attract many women solely with looks, would it be wise to "behaviormaxx" too?

Discuss? @Zyros weigh in since you're against this and believe it's 100% looks.

 

[Deleted member 3291]

no

 

[Incelibate anarchist]

I think you have a point but if you look incel there is very little chance of escape.

 

[Grotesque]

My oneitis' bf is somehow uglier than me.

I can't just go by looks theory anymore.

I fail at everything.

 

[chadmarco]

Personality only matters if you meet her bare minimum requirement for looks. But behavior maxing isn't a bad idea, that's how girls choose between guys who are of equal attractiveness to each other.

 

[Deleted member 3291]

My oneitis' bf is somehow uglier than me.

I can't just go by looks theory anymore.

I fail at everything.

If you think he’s ugly then her standards are low and you missed your chance

 

[mylifeistrash]

it's not even a factor unless you're good looking enough to get her to

WANT TO FUCK YOU FIRST

 

[Fatality]

Very obvious that it doesn't matter and this is from experience. Your personality is never relevant unless a woman already thinks you're attractive.

And even then, people that grow up in similar environments share similar experiences so personality isnt some wildly fluid variable among most people.

So I guarantee most people aren't looking for personality anyway since most people are the same within their bracket and it isn't a direct sign of genetic health.

 

[KV-]

Personality matter within a range of attractiveness. Sub 4/Above 7 its irrelevant because of Halo.

 

[armentho]

yeah but at long term relations
and they need to be combined with some social skills

at short term (no seroius relations,hook ups,beginer relations) what matter are look and charisma
because are the first thing we feel of the other

the thing is that looks make it easy

 

[throwawayseeker]

yeah but at long term relations
and they need to be combined with some social skills

at short term (no seroius relations,hook ups,beginer relations) what matter are look and charisma
because are the first thing we feel of the other

the thing is that looks make it easy

I think behavior tends to epitomize looks, but looks need to exemplify that behavior (one must match the other). I think this likely proves that looks do matter first and foremost but the question would be how one can play at these angles and where/how they can be beneficial. Most guys are not sub 4 or 7+ so it's a fine window of where we can ponder these theories and how they weigh in on most guy's success along with looks/behavior.

Because people here talk about how little other things matter, but only use Chad as the example when he's a rare specimen to begin with.

CHAD does nothing to help most guy's cases because most men are nowhere near that good looking and might need help a little from behavior.

 

[Grotesque]

If you think he’s ugly then her standards are low and you missed your chance

I'm aware.

 

[Deleted member 60]

Personality matter within a range of attractiveness. Sub 4/Above 7 its irrelevant because of Halo.

this. It matters most for people with average looks.

 

[Its_OVER]

it's not even a factor unless you're good looking enough to get her to

WANT TO FUCK YOU FIRST

 

[ICanOnlyFapToBDSM]

behaviour attitude only works if you have something to work off in the first place lm ao

 

[mikepence]

Getting rid of autism helps a lot with making male friends But I doubt it really makes too much of an impact unless you're normie-tier in terms of looks. If you're Chad, she won't care, and if you're incel she won't even notice your shitty personality because she's already swiped left in her head.

 

[ControlledInsanity]

NT is just one component of an AND operation.

Socially retarded + Unattractive = It's over

Socially retarded + Attractive = It's over

NT + Unattractive = It's over

NT + Attractive = You won the lottery

 

[Garbage]

NT is just one component of an AND operation.

Socially retarded + Unattractive = It's over

Socially retarded + Attractive = It's over

NT + Unattractive = It's over

NT + Attractive = You won the lottery

wrong you are fucking retard social doesnt matter only looks

 

[armentho]

wrong you are fucking retard social doesnt matter only looks

yeah yeah,keep coping with simple answer
there isnt a spcific trait but the average beetwen traits,the context and culture

 

[UnfortunatelyINCEL98]

no

 

[_incelinside]

My oneitis' bf is somehow uglier than me.

I can't just go by looks theory anymore.

I fail at everything.

Just be a cuck theory

 

[Pincel]

Personality only matters if you meet her bare minimum requirement for looks

This
A relationship can't work if there's no sexual attraction, PERIOD.

 

[iblamemyself]

Behavior matters. It's a complex thing and maybe not worth getting into because it gets into stressful PUA territory. For example, the reason why autists do bad with femoids is that they overthink and strategize. People tend to notice when you try to steer them into a direction. A good normie can have a good conversation that doesn't sound forced. The beginner PUA aspie goes balls to the wall sexually hitting on some femoid they just met. Could work but I wouldn't recommend. Rejection will wear you down and you can trash your reputation really easily.

 

[masterwizard]

This is a problem incels have, but are loathe to admit - but its also something non-incels get completely wrong.

Personality matters, with caveats. Chads personality doesn't matter at all, which is why he can do drugs, beat his gf, kill people, and women will still fawn over him (Jeremy Meeks e.g.)

A normie doesn't have that luxury, however if he is a normie of average looks, personality is going to be required for him to be tolerable.

Personality CANNOT makeup for an extreme physical deficiency however (genuine ugliness), except for really rare outlier cases.

Many incels here are normie tier looks, but have absolutely dogshit personalities which therefore relegates them into permanent inceldom.

Its a simple concept but there are a lot of low IQ posters who can't comprehend something that isn't a black/white clearcut absolute.

 

[FeminismsCancer]

Does it even matter? That part of personality that women do care for is equally hard coded in your DNA as looks. Things like swagga come to mind, no way that shit can be learnt when you're a bit aspie.