Experiment Do you want the Blackpill to be right or wrong?

[ProudIncelistani]

Obviously the blackpill is right, but suppose you one day ask God, perhaps in a prayer, whether the blackpill is right or not, and he himself appears to you. What would be the favorable result? He says: "No, it's just your bad personality that makes you incel!" (option Wrong) or "Yes, it's over boyo!" (option Right). Assume his answer is 100% honest.

 

[Mainländer]

I wish to live in a world where it's feasible, both legally and practically, to slay quality white JB pussy as a sub4 man close to being 30. So of course I don't WANT it to be right, I just know it is.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

I wish to live in a world where it's feasible, both legally and practically, to slay quality white JB pussy as a sub4 man close to being 30. So of course I don't WANT it to be right, I just know it is.

Exactly.

 

[Kointo1]

Why would anyone want it to be right?

 

[ProudIncelistani]

Why would anyone want it to be right?

Ask the dudes who voted right kek

 

[KillingJoke]

Because it's a little too late to fix ourselves, I believe in full measures. Once I fuck up I NEVER go back regardless of the advantages, my one and only principle in life is to fuck up all the way and see where it takes me.

 

[Robtical]

I wish to live in a world where it's feasible, both legally and practically, to slay quality white JB pussy as a sub4 man close to being 30. So of course I don't WANT it to be right, I just know it is.

 

[Deleted member 3291]

I want some sort of wagebux for being an underdeveloped male who has 0 chance at intimacy

 

[Redpill Robert]

I want it to be wrong (I still remember teen and preteen fantasies of a loyal, loving waifu) but it is simply reality.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

I want it to be wrong (I still remember teen and preteen fantasies of a loyal, loving waifu) but it is simply reality.

Yep. Sad, innit?

 

[ProudIncelistani]

I want some sort of wagebux for being an underdeveloped male who has 0 chance at intimacy

Welcome to Incelistan!

 

[ProudIncelistani]

Because it's a little too late to fix ourselves, I believe in full measures. Once I fuck up I NEVER go back regardless of the advantages, my one and only principle in life is to fuck up all the way and see where it takes me.

Fair enough, understandable.

 

[whogivesafucc]

i want it to be wrong because it's too brutal, shit shouldn't be like that. all people should get chances.

 

[FeminismsCancer]

Ask the dudes who voted right kek

I voted right because I just wish I were tall and handsome, just like I'm not for communism but just wish I were rich.

 

[Letmego]

I wish to live in a world where it's feasible, both legally and practically, to slay quality white JB pussy as a sub4 man close to being 30. So of course I don't WANT it to be right, I just know it is.

All of this but the JB part

 

[The End]

Whatever answer gets me pussy. If neither does, then the answer is irrelevant.

 

[Mainländer]

i want it to be wrong because it's too brutal, shit shouldn't be like that. all people should get chances.

I like your honesty, you said "people" instead of "we".

 

[Notgoingtomakeit]

I want it to be wrong. It means we still all have a chance.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

Whatever answer gets me pussy. If neither does, then the answer is irrelevant.

What if both being right gets you some?

 

[ProudIncelistani]

i want it to be wrong because it's too brutal, shit shouldn't be like that. all people should get chances.

T H I S !

 

[ProudIncelistani]

I voted right because I just wish I were tall and handsome, just like I'm not for communism but just wish I were rich.

I S E E .

 

[ProudIncelistani]

I want it to be wrong. It means we still all have a chance.

 

[The End]

What if both being right gets you some?

Then sure. The ends justify the means for me, at this age.

There is so much crazy stuff I'd do to get laid. And well, I might do some more of that before I go byebye!

 

[ProudIncelistani]

Then sure. The ends justify the means for me, at this age.

There is so much crazy stuff I'd do to get laid. And well, I might do some more of that before I go byebye!

I see.

 

[Not_Important]

It kills me inside that every day I'm consistently proven right.

 

[KillingJoke]

It kills me inside that every day I'm consistently proven right.

Most high iq post I've seen on here, I hate always being right about the blackpill.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

Most high iq post I've seen on here, I hate always being right about the blackpill.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Why would anyone want it to be right?

If its wrong then the end result is the same, there's is nothing you can change in this world to make your life better, you'll have to live out a pathetic existence knowing that any alternative (e.g. escortceling) is just a cope.

Its its right then alternatives are not only better in some ways and aren't a cope, but they can even be the logical choice. There are multiple security guards where I work, do you know that literally fucking two of them have talked to me and admitted on separate occasions that they were once married and were cheated on JFL. One is black pilled and never getting married again, the other is blue pilled and did get married again (I'm pretty sure he may actually be getting cheated on AGAIN).

So escortcelling and avoiding marriage is actually a logic choice in these times, not a cope. If the black pill is wrong then were all "missing out on life", if the black pill is right then were "only missing out on sex", something that has alternatives.

Only cucks and idiots would wish the black pill was wrong.

Besides everything I said above, I want revenge, a grand revenge, fueled by a burning desire that revolves around the fact that the black pill is right, if its wrong then I have no valid outlet, how do I satisfy my thirst for vengeance then. Sorry but I'm glad its right at this point in my life, I wouldn't change it for anything.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

If its wrong then the end result is the same, there's is nothing you can change in this world to make your life better, you'll have to live out a pathetic existence knowing that any alternative (e.g. escortceling) is just a cope.

Just a quick question: If the Blackpill was wrong (I.E: foids don't care about looks, someone for everyone), wouldn't failure be impossible?

 

[Hunter]

id want it to be wrong but most importantly id want halo effect to be wrong.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

id want it to be wrong but most importantly id want halo effect to be wrong.

THIS

 

[Tellem-T]

Your avi triggers me in an odd way

 

[ProudIncelistani]

Your avi triggers me in an odd way

Odd Indeed...

 

[BlkPillPres]

Just a quick question: If the Blackpill was wrong (I.E: foids don't care about looks, someone for everyone), wouldn't failure be impossible?

Well now your entire premise is pointless and you're just willy nilly warping reality, because inside your post it said:

it's just your bad personality that makes you incel!

1. So did we all just magically wake up with bad personalities?

2. What about our personality is bad and can we even change those things?

For example what if whats "bad" about your personality is caused by autism, you'll always be less attractive in comparison to your non-autistic competitors. Also in this universe it seems more like its not the that the black pill ceased to exist, its more like IT MERELY CHANGED. In this universe the black pill would shift from revolving around looks, to mental health.

We'd go from talking about "negative canthal tilt" and "bad eye areas" TO "speech impediments (tfw stutter)" and "mild sociopathy"

YOU CAN'T MAKE THE "BLACK PILL" NOT EXIST BECAUSE THE BLACK PILL IS JUST A TERM COINED TO DEFINE THE REALIZATION THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC TRAITS THAT MAKE INDIVIDUALS LESS ATTRACTIVE THAN OTHERS, AND SUCH A THING WILL ALWAYS EXIST ELSE FOR WHAT REASON DOES A WOMAN CHOOSE "X GUY" OVER "Y GUY"

The only universe where the black pill doesn't exist is where everyone who is born gets assigned a mate at birth and forced to date and marry. As long as people can choose, especially women, there are going to be incels.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

. So did we all just magically wake up with bad personalities?

2. What about our personality is bad and can we even change those things?

For example what if whats "bad" about your personality is caused by autism, you'll always be less attractive in comparison to your non-autistic competitors. Also in this universe it seems more like its not the that the black pill ceased to exist, its more like IT MERELY CHANGED. In this universe the black pill would shift from revolving around looks, to mental health.

We'd go from talking about "negative canthal tilt" and "bad eye areas" TO "speech impediments (tfw stutter)" and "mild sociopathy"

YOU CAN'T MAKE THE "BLACK PILL" NOT EXIST BECAUSE THE BLACK PILL IS JUST A TERM COINED THE DEFINE THE REALIZATION THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC TRAITS THAT MAKE INDIVIDUALS LESS ATTRACTIVE THAN OTHERS, AND SUCH A THING WILL ALWAYS EXIST ELSE FOR WHAT REASON DOES A WOMAN CHOOSE "X GUY" OVER "Y GUY"

The only universe where the black pill doesn't exist is where everyone who is born gets assigned a mate at birth and forced to date and marry. As long as people can choose, especially women, there are going to be incels.

That post was used to make a point, I didn't say that was true kek, obviously personality doesn't matter

 

[ProudIncelistani]

Well now your entire premise is pointless and you're just willy nilly warping reality, because inside your post it said:

See

That post was used to make a point, I didn't say that was true kek, obviously personality doesn't matter

 

[BlkPillPres]

That post was used to make a point, I didn't say that was true kek, obviously personality doesn't matter

If personality doesn't matter, and looks doesn't matter, by what criteria are people choosing mates then in your hypothetical universe where the black pill is wrong, JFL your thread is making less and less sense.

 

[Colly]

If god himself said it was wrong, then I'd have a girlfriend by the end of this year.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

If personality doesn't matter, and looks doesn't matter, by what criteria are people choosing mates then in your hypothetical universe where the black pill is wrong, JFL your thread is making less and less sense.

My point was:

Right Option: Looks matter, not personality

Wrong Option: Personality matters, not looks

IRL, Looks matter, not personality, I was asking which is more preferable for IRL if you could change it so: Right Option or Wrong Option?

You can't even understand this much, yet you're trying to talk to foreign media KEK!

 

[BlkPillPres]

You can't even understand this much, yet you're trying to talk to foreign media KEK!

I already said I'd want it to be right anyways, but I was just arguing also that its not really possible for a black pill to not be right.

Lol retard I think its you that can't understand, because I was arguing along the lines of that very premise where "personality matters, not looks"

But you failed to get my point, in that scenario the black pill didn't really stop existing, its just that the criteria changed from standards of physical attractiveness to standards of "mental health (things that affect your personality)"

Please learn to read, maybe english isn't your first language so you can get a pass, but what I'm saying is blatantly obvious, so I can't see how you didn't get that I understood fully what you were saying, I was just saying that even in that scenario the black pill didn't really become "wrong", its just that "our current black pill" became wrong, but in that alternate universe black pillers would be men with mental problems that affect their personality, something that is genetic and out of your hands just as much as physical attractiveness.

What about our personality is bad and can we even change those things?

For example what if whats "bad" about your personality is caused by autism, you'll always be less attractive in comparison to your non-autistic competitors. Also in this universe it seems more like its not the that the black pill ceased to exist, its more like IT MERELY CHANGED. In this universe the black pill would shift from revolving around looks, to mental health.

We'd go from talking about "negative canthal tilt" and "bad eye areas" TO "speech impediments (tfw stutter)" and "mild sociopathy

The black pill is "never really wrong" because it is merely a term to define the realization that specific inherent traits determines ones success in acquiring a mate. So even in your alternative universe where personality matters and not looks PEOPLE WHO ARE GENETICALLY PREDISPOSED TO HAVING UNDESIRABLE PERSONALITIES WILL BE INCEL, AND THE BLACK PILL TERM WILL REVOLVE AROUND THAT.

 

[notsexstarved]

With surgery, I think looks are easier to change than personalities.

 

[starystulejarz]

Right, because god doesn't exist and nature know no morals and have no safe plan for incels but to extinction of their inferior genes

 

[ProudIncelistani]

I already said I'd want it to be right anyways, but I was just arguing also that its not really possible for a black pill to not be right.

And when I decided to question a small bit of it, you misquoted me as actually believing personality matters.

But you failed to get my point, in that scenario the black pill didn't really stop existing, its just that the criteria changed from standards of physical attractiveness to standards of "mental health (things that affect your personality)"

If the blackpill were wrong (which its not), you, by ideology of the blue pill would be able to improve your mental health and the other factors. The bluepill suggests that evolution biology doesn't exist in the way we, as blackpillers know it, so the whole of hypergamy wouldn't work if the bluepill was right.

Please learn to read, maybe english isn't your first language so you can get a pass,

If that's the case, than you have no excuse for your blatant retardation as a native to English.

I was just saying that even in that scenario the black pill didn't really become "wrong", its just that "our current black pill" became wrong, but in that alternate universe black pillers would be men with mental problems that affect their personality, something that is genetic and out of your hands just as much as physical attractiveness

Read the example I gave you retard, I put it up there for negative-iqcels like you. If God himself (my example) proved the whole blackpill wrong down to even the most basic precepts, it means it's fucking wrong, not whatever mental gymnastics you're trying to pull off.

The black pill is "never really wrong" because it is merely a term to define the realization that specific inherent traits determines ones success in acquiring a mate.

And what if those 'inherent traits' never existed was the Wrong Option.

PEOPLE WHO ARE GENETICALLY PREDISPOSED TO HAVING UNDESIRABLE PERSONALITIES WILL BE INCEL, AND THE BLACK PILL TERM WILL REVOLVE AROUND THAT.

You know you can change your personality right? Kek if you don't even know this much than idk how you even got blackpilled in the first place kek.

Cancel your session with the journalist, u fucked dude.

 

[Zyros]

Oh course I want it to be wrong. I wish males quality of life wasnt so extremely determined by looks.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

Oh course I want it to be wrong. I wish males quality of life wasnt so extremely determined by looks.

This.

 

[BlkPillPres]

And when I decided to question a small bit of it, you misquoted me as actually believing personality matters.

No you idiot I wasn't saying you meant that personality matters in THIS world, I was arguing on the basis of your hypothetical where personality matters (you know that hypothetical where you say the black pill is wrong).

If the blackpill were wrong (which its not), you, by ideology of the blue pill would be able to improve your mental health and the other factors. The bluepill suggests that evolution biology doesn't exist in the way we, as blackpillers know it, so the whole of hypergamy wouldn't work if the bluepill was right.

1. Well now you're just adding stuff in and showing that its just you who wasn't specific with your low effort post lol, because the black pill being wrong and the blue pill being wrong ISN'T MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, it can both be true that the two are wrong at the same time (looks no longer determine romantic success AND being a "good person" still doesn't really help your chances).

2. "so the whole of hypergamy wouldn't work if the bluepill was right" - Alright idiot so AGAIN I ASK - By what criteria will women select mates if looks no longer matter and personality now matters BUT PERSONALITY TRAITS ARE ALL COMPLETELY CHANGEABLE.

Let me be specific, when all men are a bunch of nice happy go lucky fucks with great personalities (all traits are changeable and not permanent and based on genetics)

How does a woman choose between:

Guy A:

AND

Guy B:

IF BOTH ARE NOW EQUALLY ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE LOOKS DON'T MATTER AND THEY BOTH HAVE GREAT PERSONALITIES, THEN HOW DOES SHE CHOOSE BETWEEN TO TWO?

Are you getting my point now, by what criteria do women choose now

Lets say men now have to physically compete and perform to show their worth as the alternative criteria THEN IT STILL COMES DOWN TO PHYSICAL ATTRACTIVENESS (FITNESS). The guy with the best genetics for building muscle mass will win.

IF NOT THAT DO THEY HOLD GAMES OF FUCKING ROCK PAPER SCISSORS TO DECIDE? (LOL)

If you response is - "well it would still be a choice based on personality, whoever has the best one more suited to her wins"

Well idiot that sounds like it has a lot to do with ones INHERENT INTELLIGENCE (DIFFERENCES IN IQ) so now the black pill will revolve around intelligence instead of physical attractiveness, because the more intelligent someone is the more likely they will be able to form a "superior personality".

You know you can change your personality right? Kek if you don't even know this much than idk how you even got blackpilled in the first place kek.

Wrong you can't, your personality changes on its own, "life changes your personality, your experiences", but you can't change your personality, its just an act, for example the person I am at work is "happy go luck class clown" that has everyone laughing and everyone wants to work with him, over time this was hard to do as I was someone who barely smiled, but working where I worked over time It just got easier and I became even more low inhib than I was before, so the act became easier and I basically perfected it.

Did my personality change you retard, or did I just get good and putting on an act? (the answer is obvious if you have common sense)

In order for someone to have a legitimate personality change THEIR LIFE HAS TO CHANGE, YOU CAN'T MAGICALLY FORCE YOURSELF INTO BEING A DIFFERENT PERSON COMPLETELY (THAT WOULD REQUIRE HAVING YOUR MEMORIES ERASED, THE MEMORIES THAT FORMED YOUR CURRENT PERSONALITY)

Lets say I go to work today, a girl just gives me her number, we go out later the same week and we hit it off, I genuinely get laid and she actually likes me, I start "falling in love". THEN MY PERSONALITY WOULD LEGITIMATELY CHANGE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE ME CHANGING IT, IT WOULD BE THAT I HAVE NEW LIFE EXPERIENCES.

You can't force a genuine personality change, and I hope you don't skip over the GENUINE part when you are reading, if I met you in person thinking you were a normie the guy you'd talk to would be unrecognizable from if I met you knowing you were an incel. I'm a sociopath so I passively change the way I interact with people based on who I'm dealing with, but nobody needs to be a sociopath to simply pretend to be a different person to "fit in", its just easier for sociopaths. My personality didn't change, my "subject" (individuals I'm interacting with) did.

Cancel your session with the journalist, u fucked dude.

JFL you keep jumping back to that as though it has relevance to our argument here, maybe someones a little jealous

Anyways I'm done arguing this, on to the next argument lol.

 

[whogivesafucc]

I like your honesty, you said "people" instead of "we".

we should all get chances as well.

 

[Mainländer]

we should all get chances as well.

Yeah, but I mean, you're pretty good looking if that pic from the Ratings Megathread is not a prank or something. You could be slaying the type of pussy I long for right now.

 

[BlkPillPres]

The fact that most of you refuse to accept that your crap personalities are the reason you can't get girls is half the problem. The one variable that's in all your failed relationships is you, as a person.

If you believe woman are inferior, or think that rape is okay, or that the awnser to your problems is murder you're obviously a terrible person so of course no one wants to be with most of you cucks.

Also half of the people on this forum are trolls and it's funny cause you're all to stupid to notice. Like Braincels is a trolling group but you have a whole forum talking about how it's not a 'real' incel group anymore, when it never was to begin with.

Some of you seem like decent people, and if you are I hope you realize how fucked up this group and mentality is.

Let me show you how futile any argumentation against the black pill is with a simple series of questions:

1. Are people born with bad personalities, are bad personality traits inherent to genetics in some way? (Yes OR No)

1.1 If No then i ask WHAT CAUSED SAID INDIVIDUAL TO END UP HAVING A BAD PERSONALITY?

1.2 If Yes then how can you fault them for something so out of their control?

Lets see your answers lol. Its futile though, because in question 1.1 WHAT OBVIOUSLY CAUSED THEM TO DEVELOP A BAD PERSONALITY ARE THINGS OUTSIDE THE REALM OF PERSONALITY (THEIR LOOKS), THE LIKELY ENDED UP "BEING A BAD PERSON" BECAUSE THEY GOT TREATED LIKE SHIT THEIR ENTIRE LIFE EVEN WHEN THEY WERE A "GOOD PERSON".

Of course that's just my answer to 1.1 based on personal experience, if you met me at age 10 I'd be that typical "nice personality" guy who genuinely cared about people, etc. Even einstein said doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is insanity. I never had any success dating because most other men were just more attractive than me physically. I'm talking about guys that fucking beat their girlfriends and shit, to the point where they have black eyes, but no it MUST HAVE BEEN THEIR GREAT PERSONALITIES THAT KEPT THE WOMEN THEIR, NOT THEIR BIG DICKS AND SIX PACK ABS JFL.

Go ahead, and answer the questions.

 

[ProudIncelistani]

No you idiot I wasn't saying you meant that personality matters in THIS world, I was arguing on the basis of your hypothetical where personality matters (you know that hypothetical where you say the black pill is wrong).

You used it to make it look like I said that I believe that personality, you transgender cuckold. I used it off of a bluepill argument, assuming that argument was magically right. We all know personality doesn't matter, but you decided to take it too far up your ass. Not my fault.

1. Well now you're just adding stuff in and showing that its just you who wasn't specific with your low effort post lol, because the black pill being wrong and the blue pill being wrong ISN'T MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, it can both be true that the two are wrong at the same time (looks no longer determine romantic success AND being a "good person" still doesn't really help your chances).

I'm not adding anything, this should have been common knowledge entering Incelistani Ideology, but oddly for the one who was talking about blackpilling foreign media, you have no clue what your OWN Ideology is...

2. "so the whole of hypergamy wouldn't work if the bluepill was right" - Alright idiot so AGAIN I ASK - By what criteria will women select mates if looks no longer matter and personality now matters BUT PERSONALITY TRAITS ARE ALL COMPLETELY CHANGEABLE.

It's the platitiude of """There's someone for everyone""" you fucking Cuck. (inb4 you make more blunders, that platitide is wrong as well, but I'm asking if, in an ideal world, it would be right or not according to you)

Let me be specific, when all men are a bunch of nice happy go lucky fucks with great personalities (all traits are changeable and not permanent and based on genetics)

How does a woman choose between:

Guy A:

AND

Guy B:

IF BOTH ARE NOW EQUALLY ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE LOOKS DON'T MATTER AND THEY BOTH HAVE GREAT PERSONALITIES, THEN HOW DOES SHE CHOOSE BETWEEN TO TWO?

HARDY-WEINBERG EQUILIBRIUM. LEARN SOME BIOLOGY FUCKER. SEE MY ABOVE POINT AS WELL IF YOU'RE STILL CONFUSED. HOW TO FUCK WOULD A FEMTARD CHOOSE BETWEEN TWO EQUALLY ATTRACTIVE CHADS?

Wrong you can't, your personality changes on its own, "life changes your personality, your experiences", but you can't change your personality, its just an act, for example the person I am at work is "happy go luck class clown" that has everyone laughing and everyone wants to work with him, over time this was hard to do as I was someone who barely smiled, but working where I worked over time It just got easier and I became even more low inhib than I was before, so the act became easier and I basically perfected it.

Did my personality change you retard, or did I just get good and putting on an act? (the answer is obvious if you have common sense)

You can put on an act, but that doesn't count as your '''personality''', who you truly are, that's just a mechanism to not get fired by your cuck boss. Saving your job and your real personality are a world different. The fact that you have no reason at this moment to randomly change it doesn't mean that changing it is impossible. I have no incentive to stop gymcelling for example, but if I had incentive to stop, I would.

JFL you keep jumping back to that as though it has relevance to our argument here, maybe someones a little jealous

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