Discussion Do you ever search the Internet for "インセル?"

[FrothySolutions]

That says "incel" but in lewdrunes. Sometimes I like to search for what limited Japanese vocabulary I have to see how people are reacting to things in Japan.

I'm not entirely sure "incel" means what I think it means in Japan. For instance, on YouTube I found this guy. "インセルch."



This doesn't seem like an "incelly" channel, at least not in the Western style. The description of his channel...

30代の高卒フリーターが近況報告したり
町や自然地帯など場所問わずあちこち巡ったりするチャンネルです
よろしくお願いします

Basically it means he's an unemployed/freeter high school graduate in his 30s, he goes around visiting towns and nature, and talking about his life as it progresses. An "incelly" channel I'd expect there to be more dissertations about the ills of society or something. If this guy is an incel, he's one of the "without hate" ones. It's the story of a humble struggle.

Over on Nicovideo I found this category for videos.

インセルとは [単語記事] - ニコニコ大百科

「女たちが俺に性的魅力を感じさえすれば幸せな人生になっていたのにと考えると、身体中が憎しみに燃え上がる」 「女どもが俺から幸せな人生を奪った。だから仕返しに、あいつらの人生すべてを奪ってや...

dic.nicovideo.jp

This is beyond my understanding of the language. But I do recognize the "related videos" section. There are two videos total. Both of which are also mirrored on YouTube. Because Nicovideo doesn't so much have a "comments section," I thought it might be more informative to look at the comments on YouTube instead. Both are "Yukkuri kaisetsu," which is apparently an educational video format where topics are explained in a slow, easy to understand, soothing voice.





The first one is some kind of "Understand in 3 minutes" breakdown channel. This is the one about incels. Incels are described as extremists. Down in the comments, halmit 0094 says...

こじらせ系オタクが厄介なのはどこの国も同じですが、GAIJINは本当にやることが過激だから怖い。

Which essentially means "Nerds are troublesome in every country, but GAIJIN are scary because they're radical." Suggesting to me that, at least from the perspective of halmit 0094, vengeful virgins are an America problem, not a Japan problem.

A guy named "腐ったファシストのナチ野郎," AKA "Kusatta fascist no Nazi yarō" AKA "Rotten Fascist Nazi... Guy/Bastard/etc." says "Elliot Rodger Banzai!"

The second video is from a channel that does a lot more exploration of the incel topic. I count at least 3 separate videos from this channel on the topic. Someone named 700 700 has the pinned comment here.

アメリカで一番インセルになりやすい人種はアジア系アメリカ人だと思う
一番女性から相手にされない、華奢で童顔だから男とみなされて無い

Says what a lot of people here say: "I think the race most likely to be incel in America is Asian-American. They're probably not seen as manly because of how baby-faced and delicate they are."

A guy named Weather Boy says "Anyone from Incels.Co?" I'm from Incels.co, Weather Boy. Are you?

Weather Boy shows us that other people, not just Japanese, are searching for this. How about you? Have you done this? I would suggest you give it a try. See what the East thinks of us.
EDIT: Disregard, there's already a thread for this.

https://incels.is/threads/i-looked-...ery-interesting-videos-weebcels-gtfih.174454/

 

[Deleted member 6657]

owari desu

 

[Deleted member 19971]

Fuark interesting, all Japs hide on their own boards with their own hard to understand language
I wanna learn Jap so I can go on these forums and boards, translators are shit-tier

 

[Deleted member 23981]

There is an japanese incel fourm

Category:Japanese Incelosphere

incels.wiki

u cant post if u are not from japan. Most japanese incels are mainly hikkomori which are mainly men, you can find them on 2chan @anon2719 knows japanese so he may know a bit more about this topic

Fuark interesting, all Japs hide on their own boards with their own hard to understand language
I wanna learn Jap so I can go on these forums and boards

the board is very boring, mainly political disscussions and autism

Japanese incel fourm xd

 

[FrothySolutions]

There is an japanese incel fourm

Category:Japanese Incelosphere

incels.wiki

u cant post if u are not from japan. Most japanese incels are mainly hikkomori which are mainly men, you can find them on 2chan @anon2719 knows japanese so he may know a bit more about this topic

the board is very boring, mainly political disscussions and autism
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Japanese incel fourm xd

I don't mean hikkies, I mean people who identify specifically as "incel." Is that what that board is?

 

[Deleted member 23981]

I don't mean hikkies, I mean people who identify specifically as "incel." Is that what that board is?

Yes that board is for men only, (men who are not popular), hikkomori is interchangeable with incel, as both are primarily men and are "loveless"

https://incels.is/threads/japanese-incel-forums.179760/

Japcels are nearly never aware of their situation and cope very hard with porn, consumerism, anime etc like most of the western incel population

 

[anon2719]

Ya I don't like watching that kind of stuff anymore, there are incels all of the world, what I hate most is the cringe from western memes

 

[Ghoulcel]

Extremely interesting, but I was expecting way more incel population there based on the manga-documentary I've read with the name " 漫画ルポ 中年童貞 " [Something between 'Virgins after 30']

http://leedcafe.com/webcomicinfo/%E6%BC%AB%E7%94%BB%E3%83%AB%E3%83%9D-%E4%B8%AD%E5%B9%B4%E7%AB%A5%E8%B2%9E/

 

[FrothySolutions]

Yes that board is for men only, (men who are not popular), hikkomori is interchangeable with incel, as both are primarily men and are "loveless"

https://incels.is/threads/japanese-incel-forums.179760/

Japcels are nearly never aware of their situation and cope very hard with porn, consumerism, anime etc like most of the western incel population

But hikkies aren't specifically loveless like incels are. Hikkies are hermits, I'm looking for a specific focus on being loveless/sexless.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

Truly interesting stuff ngl

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Yes that board is for men only, (men who are not popular), hikkomori is interchangeable with incel, as both are primarily men and are "loveless"

https://incels.is/threads/japanese-incel-forums.179760/

Japcels are nearly never aware of their situation and cope very hard with porn, consumerism, anime etc like most of the western incel population

no, they are aware of it. Not only are they aware of it, but they are OG incels. For fucks sake, we are talking about the country that invented hentai, and brought us EVA. All the west did was make merge inceldom with histrionic levels of toxic masculinity .

The Japanese style of inceldom is more low-T and depressing. They are called "herbivore men." But their levels of cope are superior. It also helps that being a male virgin is the norm in Japan.

 

[waste matter]

this is interesting i will take a deeper look and tell my opinions about it whether it is based or not based

 

[Deleted member 23981]

no, they are aware of it. Not only are they aware of it, but they are OG incels. All the west did was make merge inceldom with histrionic levels of toxic masculinity .

The Japanese style of inceldom is more low-T and depressing. They are called "herbivore men"

oh ye, i remeber seeing a post about japs knowing about lookism but not caring about it. What do "herbivore men" do, just ldar as hikiis? or go 'mgtow' by neeting.

also how do chinese incels act, they are probably a bit more high t then japs.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

oh ye, i remeber seeing a post about japs knowing about lookism but not caring about it. What do "herbivore men" do, just ldar as hikiis? or go 'mgtow' by neeting.

also how do chinese incels act, they are probably a bit more high t then japs.

they just double down on their introversion/stoicism, and try to avoid negative emotions. Western incels make an active effort to become more unhinged.

 

[FrothySolutions]

no, they are aware of it. Not only are they aware of it, but they are OG incels. For fucks sake, we are talking about the country that invented hentai, and brought us EVA. All the west did was make merge inceldom with histrionic levels of toxic masculinity .

The Japanese style of inceldom is more low-T and depressing. They are called "herbivore men." But their levels of cope are superior. It also helps that being a male virgin is the norm in Japan.

But is the term "herbivore men" about being sexless, or is it about being unmanly? I'm not looking simply for hermits, or simply for delicate men, I'm looking for men who focus on "I am sexless, and I don't like it."

 

[Deleted member 23981]

they just double down on their introversion/stoicism, and try to avoid negative emotions. Western incels make an active effort to become more unhinged.

Western incels should do that ngl, they probably dont go on too many blackpilled fourms to avoid feeling bad?

 

[SlayerSlayer]

But is the term "herbivore men" about being sexless, or is it about being unmanly? I'm not looking simply for hermits, or simply for delicate men, I'm looking for men who focus on "I am sexless, and I don't like it."

while it's not "about" being sexless, they pretty much ARE sexless, and are more incel than us. 99.5% of herbivore men are virgins and dislike it, so compare that with the western mix of 1/3 KHHV trucels and large number of escortcels.

 

[Numb]

while it's not "about" being sexless, they pretty much ARE sexless, and are more incel than us. 99.5% of herbivore men are virgins and dislike it, so compare that with the western mix of KHHVs and escortcels.

KHHV is still a virgin and also japan has hookers so this point is moot

 

[Based-nearcel]

They don't seem to be interested or know about the blackpill

 

[FrothySolutions]

while it's not "about" being sexless, they pretty much ARE sexless, and are more incel than us. 99.5% of herbivore men are virgins and dislike it, so compare that with the western mix of 1/3 KHHV trucels and large number of escortcels.

Hikkies are probably sexless too, but that's not at the core of their club. I'm looking for a club that's specifically about being sexless. Not just being an herbivore.

 

[Numb]

They don't seem to be interested or know about the blackpill

Classic asian thinking. They don't like to analyze or break things down to understandable matters and create abstract theories and concepts like the west does. Which is why they just focus on congregating and talking to each other. They "don't care about the blackpill" because they can't be bothered to know why they are virgins and if they can ascend

 

[SlayerSlayer]

They don't seem to be interested or know about the blackpill

It's about the extent to which they know about it. On a basic level, everyone is blackpilled. Herbivore men probably know that looks fuck them over, but they try not to dwell on negative emotions.

 

[Numb]

It's about the extent to which they know about it. On a basic level, everyone is blackpilled. Herbivore men probably know that looks fuck them over, but they try not to dwell on negative emotions.

Which in turn fucks them over. For all we know a lot of them are one jaw surgery away from being non subhuman status. This is why it's bad to function off of pure emotion

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Classic asian thinking. They don't like to analyze or break things down to understandable matters and create abstract theories and concepts like the west does. Which is why they just focus on congregating and talking to each other. They "don't care about the blackpill" because they can't be bothered to know why they are virgins and if they can ascend

You've got a lot of things wrong in your analysis. Japanese are really really neurotic. They love to overanalyze in a logical, autistic way. They hate congregating and talking with each other, because they fear it. Japanese are very looks conscious people, they understand that looks fuck them over, they just don't dwell on it, because that's a negative emotion. They'd just rather LDAR with some moe anime. Male Japanese do in fact get more surgeries done on them than men of other nationalities, except Koreans. Most can't because they are poor NEETs.

 

[Numb]

You've got a lot of things wrong in your analysis. Japanese are really really neurotic. They love to overanalyze in a logical, autistic way. They hate congregating and talking with each other, because they fear it. Japanese are very looks conscious people, they understand that looks fuck them over, they just don't dwell on it, because that's a negative emotion. They'd just rather LDAR with some moe anime.

You misunderstood what I said. I am saying they congregate amongst their own and no one else. Hence why they even have those forums in the first place but don't accept anyone else from other groups. Also "over analyzing in a logical autistic way" is a negative attribute to the theory of lookism. Because it relies on abstract thinking and scientific theories/hypothetical studies. Sure, it might not take much to realize looks matter. But it takes a lot to truly see how they affect you in your everyday life and the people around you. To the point where women are willing to fuck dogs and animals over an ugly dude. You seem to contradict yourself by saying they are "logical and analytical" but refuse to analyze the number one reason they are in that position they are in because they don't like "negative emotions". Autistic people rarely function off of emotion like that so. And also it doesn't seem very logical to use emotions to guide your philosophical foundations

 

[gigacel123]

I knew it all along, Ricecels suffer the most along with currycels.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

You misunderstood what I said. I am saying they congregate amongst their own and no one else. Hence why they even have those forums in the first place but don't accept anyone else from other groups. Also "over analyzing in a logical autistic way" is a negative attribute to the theory of lookism. Because it relies on abstract thinking and scientific theories/hypothetical studies. Sure, it might not take much to realize looks matter. But it takes a lot to truly see how they affect you in your everyday life and the people around you. To the point where women are willing to fuck dogs and animals over an ugly dude. You seem to contradict yourself by saying they are "logical and analytical" but refuse to analyze the number one reason they are in that position they are in because they don't like "negative emotions". Autistic people rarely function off of emotion like that so. And also it doesn't seem very logical to use emotions to guide your philosophical foundations

I mean if I were a Japanese, I'd keep my incel forums Japanese only too, kick out all the aspiring SEAmaxxers is a MUST to cope

 

[Numb]

I mean if I were a Japanese, I'd keep my incel forums Japanese only too, kick out all the aspiring SEAmaxxers is a MUST to cope

Well tbh I think our inceldom and their "inceldom" are different. The only thing I can compare their boards to is the older /r9k/ with all the neets before the "femanon/tranny" shit they do now. it didn't focus on looks at all and race etc. Just already self perceived losers who NEET which is what I think is the stage all of the other countries I see are in currently. Our inceldom is more about genetics and not being allowed to try to achieve a better life. Which is why we say "fatcels are volcels/ ur not incel if x/SEAmaxx." And why we actively kick out people who we deem too good looking to be on here. Could say our inceldom is more advanced and sophisticated. It's more true to nature in the is-ought side of things

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Well tbh I think our inceldom and their "inceldom" are different. The only thing I can compare their boards to is the older /r9k/ with all the neets before the "femanon/tranny" shit they do now. it didn't focus on looks at all and race etc. Just already self perceived losers who NEET which is what I think is the stage all of the other countries I see are in currently. Our inceldom is more about genetics and not being allowed to try to achieve a better life. Which is why we say "fatcels are volcels/ ur not incel if x/SEAmaxx." And why we actively kick out people who we deem too good looking to be on here.

yeah, old r9k had a bittersweet vibe to it. There is now nothing quite like it

 

[Deleted member 23981]

yeah, old r9k had a bittersweet vibe to it. There is now nothing quite like it

Wizchan?

Well tbh I think our inceldom and their "inceldom" are different. The only thing I can compare their boards to is the older /r9k/ with all the neets before the "femanon/tranny" shit they do now. it didn't focus on looks at all and race etc. Just already self perceived losers who NEET which is what I think is the stage all of the other countries I see are in currently. Our inceldom is more about genetics and not being allowed to try to achieve a better life. Which is why we say "fatcels are volcels/ ur not incel if x/SEAmaxx." And why we actively kick out people who we deem too good looking to be on here. Could say our inceldom is more advanced and sophisticated. It's more true to nature in the is-ought side of things

intrestinglossus

 

[Numb]

Wizchan?

wizchan has an older population though. tbh i'd say the incelosphere has the youngest members that are experiencing the more brutal online dating era. Everyone else didn't have it as bad as us in this department