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Serious Do you believe in a reward/punishment in the afterlife?

An afterlife (heaven /hell /reincarnation)

  • I believe in eternal joy in Heaven / eternal torture in Hell

    Votes: 6 10.2%
  • I believe in reward or punishment through reincarnation

    Votes: 3 5.1%
  • I believe in temporary torture, followed by Heaven

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • I don't believe there is an afterlife. Your consciousness dies with your brain, m'lady.

    Votes: 36 61.0%
  • I don't know, and it scares me

    Votes: 12 20.3%

  • Total voters
    59
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Atheists seem to be over-represented in the incel community. Let's see if this poll confirms it.
 
Anywhere is better than this hell on Earth.
 
Anywhere is better than this hell on Earth.
I doubt it. The Bible says that Hell is a lake of fire. Burning alive forever sounds even more painful than LDARing.
 
I believe in reincarnation, but not based on karma or anything. Your consciousness is just recycled.
 
this is the afterlife
we were sentenced to inceldom
 
It's an intuition, a vision, something you have read in a book and sounds cool to you?

Possibly
It's what makes the most sense to me considering my views of what actual human conciousness is, a seperate energy, something we can't understand, like what time actually is. It exists on a plane that we don't and we have a shallow perception of it.
 
The idea of reward or punishment for actions taken in life doesn't seem all that plausible. An entity capable of facilitating this would likely already see the outcome, and could theoretically procure any result it wished. If I'm going to give monotheistic religions the benefit of the doubt, then that means I need to take the idea of free will seriously, and I really just can't.
 
Yes. We will all have virgins in the afterlife for being incel.
 
Afterlife is cope. We only have this life and we all were unlucky enough to be born as genetic failures.
it's over
 
The afterlife is the biggest and most fundamental cope.
>muh bad people get punished
>muh I get, like, supr gud stuff forever for being a victim
>muh it's totally legit to believe in things without evidence

If you look at it from a detached perspective, it just sounds like childish wishful thinking.
 
The afterlife is the biggest and most fundamental cope.
>muh bad people get punished
>muh I get, like, supr gud stuff forever for being a victim
>muh it's totally legit to believe in things without evidence

If you look at it from a detached perspective, it just sounds like childish wishful thinking.
It's a validation of the just world fallacy that most, if not all people possess to a degree. You need a massive cope to be willing to accept the unacceptable.
 
I believe that i will get 72 virgins in heaven if i die for allah
 
I don't know, and it scares me.

Eternal joy in Heaven / eternal torture in Hell seems extremely implausible, disproportionate and unimaginably cruel. The very idea of "eternal" also seems so unlikely, the "Brahma's bubbles" hypothesis sounds so much better and more likely.

A god who creates me just to torture me for eternity because of some irrelevant shit I did down here is much worse than even the fearsome gnostic Demiurge. He's worst than us and yet wants to judge us that harshly.

I think one of the best things about suffering is that it always ends, at least down here.

I kinda sympathize with the reincarnation idea but I don't think it's very plausible either. There are like 8 billion people in the world right now, just some centuries before that number was way smaller. Where are those souls coming from?

"I believe in temporary torture, followed by Heaven", yeah, that's better. I had a Christian boss that used to tell me that in hell, "the fire only burns while there's still fuel", fuel being sin. Ok.jpg

>I don't believe there is an afterlife. Your consciousness dies with your brain, m'lady.
Seems plausible tbh. But who knows? Nobody really.
 
There is no proof that religion is true so fuck it. Not gonna waste my time with something that most probably is false.
 
When someone uses a burden of proof rule only for the favor their own side...
If you claim that something exists, whether it is god or heaven or hell then its up to you to provide evidence for it not for me to disprove your claim.
 
I don't believe in the afterlife to be honest...At least not in the same way the bible presents it. Seems way too simple considering how complex the world is, but there is a thought that has bothered me for a while now...
Say I die, right? Now, no matter what, in the end parts of my decomposing corpse after a while probably will help form some other items/things, perhaps plants, and in the end it's likely it will be converted to food and...What I'm trying to say is that one way or another I will probably be part of another person after a certain while, or maybe even a couple of people.
So by helping form those people bodies, therefore helping sustain their consciences, does that mean that I reincarnated?
I mean my body right now is probably partially was formed from at least one person that has died sometime prior to my me even being genetic code in my parents reproductive organs....
Maybe I'm just overthinking it...
 
When someone uses a burden of proof rule only for the favor their own side...
Religion makes the original claim, changing the empty state, meaning the burden of proof is always on godfags.
 
"most probably is false"

Is a claim

"God isn't real" Is also a claim, not all atheists claim this and I guess that most just lack belief but those still are claims
 
I don't believe in the afterlife to be honest...At least not in the same way the bible presents it. Seems way too simple considering how complex the world is, but there is a though that has bothered me for a while now...
Say I die, right? Now, not matter what in the end bodies of my decomposing corpse after a while probably will help form some other items/things, perhaps plants, and in the end it's likely it will be converted to food and...What I'm trying to say is that one way or another I will probably be part of another person after a certain while, or maybe even a couple of people.
So by helping form those people bodies, therefore helping sustaining their consciences, does that mean that I reincarnated?
I mean my body right now is probably partially was formed from at least one person that has died sometime prior to my me even being genetic code in my parents reproductive organs....
Maybe I'm just overthinking it...

Just because the atoms of your former self are now used as building blocks in other lifeforms does not make you reincarnated and does not make you concious therefore its pointless.
"most probably is false"

Is a claim

"God isn't real" Is also a claim, not all atheists claim this and I guess that most just lack belief but those still are claims

I don't claim that i know for certain but since there is no evidence for it i would say its most probably false. Im not claiming that god does not exist.
 
"God isn't real" Is also a claim, not all atheists claim this and I guess that most just lack belief but those still are claims
You're the one making the positive claim by affirming that god exists, the burden of proof will always be on you. If I afterwards reject this and claim that god does not exist, it's simply a neutral position as I'm arguing the status quo. Asking the individual arguing a negative to provide proof that something does not exist, is the same thing as believing a rape victim without evidence and demanding evidence be provided against a claim, as opposed to tangible proof supporting it. By that logic I could make any claim I wished, and by your own rules if you couldn't disprove it than it must be true.
 
Were constantly beign punished for no reason.
Therefore this life is a punishment...
 
You're the one making the positive claim by affirming that god exists, the burden of proof will always be on you. If I afterwards reject this and claim that god does not exist, it's simply a neutral position as I'm arguing the status quo. Asking the individual arguing a negative to provide proof that something does not exist, is the same thing as believing a rape victim without evidence and demanding evidence be provided against a claim, as opposed to tangible proof supporting it. By that logic I could make any claim I wished, and by your own rules if you couldn't disprove it than it must be true.


When the level of delusion reaches insanity

Is when I block you
Were constantly beign punished for no reason.
Therefore this life is a punishment...
 
Just because the atoms of your former self are now used as building blocks in other lifeforms does not make you reincarnated and does not make you concious therefore its pointless.
I disagree. You can't say that for certain as we are still too stupid to truly understand how consciences truly works, and what makes it form.
I suppose this debate is becoming more philosophical rather than scientific, but it is possible that, perhaps what allows you [your conscience] to behave in such a matter is partially due to the effect the biomass of other dead beings (what I'm trying to say is, perhaps even though there are almost no traces that the skin and muscle which form you, as well as your organs is merely another being that has died once, have to some degree an effect on you. You are what you eat, so it is possible that it has a part to play in this too.
Were constantly beign punished for no reason.
Therefore this life is a punishment...
Punishment is a subjective thing. A cuck can be so delusional he would think his existence is a blessing, even though it is similar to ours, if not worse.
The only difference he is delusional, at least more than us.
Or perhaps it is we who are delusional truly?
 
No.
I disagree. You can't say that for certain as we are still too stupid to truly understand how consciences truly works, and what makes it form.
I suppose this debate is becoming more philosophical rather than scientific, but it is possible that, perhaps what allows you [your conscience] to behave in such a matter is partially due to the effect the biomass of other dead beings (what I'm trying to say is, perhaps even though there are almost no traces that the skin and muscle which form you, as well as your organs is merely another being that has died once, have to some degree an effect on you. You are what you eat, so it is possible that it has a part to play in this too.

Punishment is a subjective thing. A cuck can be so delusional he would think his existence is a blessing, even though it is similar to ours, if not worse.
The only difference he is delusional, at least more than us.
Or perhaps it is we who are delusional truly?
My atoms already get recycled elsewhere after every breath and shit I take and I don't feel conscious in those trees and animals that used them after me.
When the level of delusion reaches insanity

Is when I block you
KEK you sound like lalala my god exists and I don't care if there's no proof. You can block me too now. JFL.
What delusion?
His own.
 
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I disagree. You can't say that for certain as we are still too stupid to truly understand how consciences truly works, and what makes it form.
I suppose this debate is becoming more philosophical rather than scientific, but it is possible that, perhaps what allows you [your conscience] to behave in such a matter is partially due to the effect the biomass of other dead beings (what I'm trying to say is, perhaps even though there are almost no traces that the skin and muscle which form you, as well as your organs is merely another being that has died once, have to some degree an effect on you. You are what you eat, so it is possible that it has a part to play in this too.
You're describing determinism.
Also, consciousness doesn't exist, from a scientific point of view, so the debate on it is fundamentally pointless.
 
You're describing determinism.
Also, consciousness doesn't exist, from a scientific point of view, so the debate on it is fundamentally pointless.
What about all those dimensions and such
 

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I don't believe but I wish I could :(
 
I believe in the enjoyable afterlife, but only for those who are worthy of it. The unworthy simply stop existing. That's what Bible hints anyway.
 
You're describing determinism.
Also, consciousness doesn't exist, from a scientific point of view, so the debate on it is fundamentally pointless.
Wasn't proven OR disproven yet. Contrary to religion though, I believe this matter will be settled once science advance enough to understand how the brain works.
But I wonder....Is there really a reason our species brains specifically got mutated so that we might think differently than all other animals? Or is it just coincidence?
 
But I wonder....Is there really a reason our species brains specifically got mutated so that we might think differently than all other animals? Or is it just coincidence?
A reason, I doubt it. If I had to guess I'd say that it was a random mutation, or an unintended side effect of our much higher processing power than other animals. Sapience and mortality salience aren't beneficial to an organism, quite the opposite. Which is why humans have had to invent ways of coping with their inevitable death, even if one's own death can only be proven through deductive reasoning.
 
A reason, I doubt it. If I had to guess I'd say that it was a random mutation, or an unintended side effect of our much higher processing power than other animals. Sapience and mortality salience aren't beneficial to an organism, quite the opposite. Which is why humans have had to invent ways of coping with their inevitable death, even if one's own death can only be proven through deductive reasoning.
Quite sad really, but it really does seem like the case.
Is it a blessing or a curse though? To be able to experience all this beauty but at the same time be so disturbed with existential crisis?
 
Feels like I am being punished right now. God knows what's waiting for me on the other side.
 
Is it a blessing or a curse though? To be able to experience all this beauty but at the same time be so disturbed with existential crisis?
I think sentience is overwhelmingly bad on the whole, as suffering is guaranteed and even a deprivation of pleasure can be a genuine form of suffering. For instance, as opposed to having to placate hunger/thirst/loneliness/sexual frustration, wouldn't it be preferable to not experience those negative states in the first place? Nonexistent beings neither experience suffering nor require pleasure.
 
I think sentience is overwhelmingly bad on the whole, as suffering is guaranteed and even a deprivation of pleasure can be a genuine form of suffering. For instance, as opposed to having to placate hunger/thirst/loneliness/sexual frustration, wouldn't it be preferable to not experience those negative states in the first place? Nonexistent beings neither experience suffering nor require pleasure.
Yeah, I was okay for almost 14 billion years until someone decided to bring me into this world.
I really wonder though, if sometime after I die that I will be someone's consciences one day...
 
i need to fucking die already. i live for nothing, and base pleasures do nothing for me. my fear of death is nothing compared to the fear of waking up in the morning

m lady
 
I dont think theres a better life after this one, m´lady
But if after my death i wake up in a even worse place, i would not be really surprised. This universe seems to be here just to torture me, so maybe theres another one waiting for me. I just hope that, at the end, i can definetly die and rest in pure unconciousness for eternity. Every second of this life is way too much for me.
 
Sounds like r/antinatalism
It depends actually. Sometimes I see existence as a blessing, sometimes as a curse.
I suppose it is better to exist because either way you are going to die one day, and it's nice to experience something before going back to non-existence rather than constantly non existing.
 
I mean if there was a hell I've already guaranteed my place there for not believing in anything.
 
Im scared of going to hell if i kill myself, and stop existing also sounds weird as fuck
 
Believing in afterlife is the pinnacle of cope.
"This life was just not for me, maybe Chad is banging my oneitis and ripping her pussy with his Thundercock, but just wait! He's gonna suffer for what he's done afterwards"
The die has been cast once your father decided to squirt his beta seed into your mediocre mom's womb. That's all you get, 70 years of suffering.
If there's any solace in anything, it's the fact that if it was some other recombination of genes, it wouldn't really be you anyway.
 
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