Do looks matter (for socializing)?

[neet]

As clarification for the Black Pill theory, can somebody please explain me if looks do matter when I try to talk with people? Just having a social conversation with both men and women. Should I invest in ''looksmaxing'' or learn basic social skills?

I have social anxiety since childhood, never had friends so never developed social skills.

 

[Six]

jfl at greycels.

 

[Evil Genius]

Yes dude

 

[Luxity]

Who wants to talk to an ugly person ?

 

[EthnicelNL]

Yes no one really wants to talk to ugly people.

 

[Deleted member 14490]

Yes bro. You're way more likely to be shown no respect and not taken seriously if ugly, while people will be drawn to what you say and aim to please you if you're attractive.

 

[grunitzki]

Yes. But I've seen people who are very ugly yet have a lot of friends because of their strong charisma... one guy in particular, who has a strong personality, has a lot of friends but can't actually get a girlfriend. Conclusion: yes, again.

 

[Zaetheus]

Yes no one really wants to talk to ugly people.

“Actually...”

 

[Sparrow's Song]

The quality of your meat prison is always the most important and often only thing that matters when interacting with other meat crawlers.

 

[NightyNight]

Who wants to talk to an ugly person ?

Um, actually some people can turn off there sex hormones to engage in normal conversation.

 

[Luxity]

Um, actually some people can turn off there sex hormones to engage in normal conversation.

>Um

 

[Deleted member 7573]

does shit come out from the butt?

 

[Durbis]

Everyone has already replied but yeah it's mega important.

 

[incel4life]

Of course looks matter. Women want to breed with the men from the most prestigious clique. If a clique has an ugly member, it brings down the prestige of the clique. Therefore, it is in the best interest of the other members of the clique to kick the ugly member out, or bully him until he leaves.

 

[SOCIALSUICIDE]

Obviously looks are everything. What is up with these obvious threads popping up lately

 

[Gaban1]

Yes no one really wants to talk to ugly people.

Low iq I get stares all the time

 

[ShadowMonk]

We base our black pills on science and fact.
The answer is yes. It matters a great deal. Mainly through the halo effect.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
But there are other biases at play as well.

 

[EthnicelNL]

Low iq I get stares all the time

Because you're ugly?

 

[Deleted member 1042]

Makes it easier. Makes climbing social rank easier. Makes maintaining friendships easier.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

Looks matter a lot when it comes to even making friends with women. The fact of the matter is most women do not even want to be around ugly guys and often times they will actively push ugly men out of a social circle that they're in.

Even when it comes to making friends with guys, looks matter to an extent.

In general, being good looking makes people more likely to trust you, makes people feel more comfortable around you, and generally makes people more likely to assume positive things about you and helps a lot with first impressions. Likewise, being ugly makes people more likely to be wary of you, and in some cases even afraid of you (if you're the low trust kind of ugly). People will be far more likely to assume negative things about you. This includes everything from people thinking "that guy's a loser" to "that guy is a potential rapist".

With that said, it's obviously possible for an ugly guy to have friends and even have a decent sized social circle. I was a 1.5/10 before surgery (uglier than blackops2cel) and even I had friends and was socially active in my late teens and early 20s. Granted almost all of my friends were male and a disproportionately high percent were ugly incels or autists.

But if you're young (22 or under) and have no friends, you have other things working against you besides your looks.

 

[Gaban1]

Because you're ugly?

Well yeah I see no other reason to stare at someone and giggle

 

[Deleted member 10314]

Obviously

 

[EthnicelNL]

Well yeah I see no other reason to stare at someone and giggle

So what's low iq about my statement?

 

[bakadesu]

Haning around with uglies lowers normies status

 

[liveisbullshit95]

Octobercels jfl

 

[Mainländer]

In my experience, the looks threshold needed to make friends and socialize is much lower than the one needed to be successful with girls, especially young/attractive girls, but yeah, looks affect everything in your life.

You just have to go to the extremes to see it working clearly. Can you imagine yourself keeping your social life just as it is (implying you do have some) if you turned repugnantly deformed like Marcio Jardel?

 

[grayjedi90]

Of course it matters but not as much as many believe. The most important thing is that you are an interesting person who can add value to the one who is talking to you. Nobody gives a shit about some incel loser.

 

[singularitymaxx]

depends if it's a guy or a girl an ugly guy likely won't care but a normal looking guy will likely be less receptive to you if you look like shit. Girls don't talk to sub 8s like that so no point in even getting into it lol

 

[micropenis29]

Obviously looks are everything. What is up with these obvious threads popping up lately

 

[KingChemist]

What silly question. Looks matter for everything!!!

 

[itsmemario]

Yes, it's harder, especially at the beginning, people are less likely to open, and they feel weird until they get to know you better. At least most of them, someone don't even bother to talk to you, but some are cool (maybe out of pitty i don't know).

 

[Unzöl]

Undoubtedly