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Despite growing recognition that attacks by incels are a form of domestic terrorism, online discussion forums that cater to the misogynist subculture continue to operate openly


On one incel website, the Toronto van attack suspect is called “our hero,” while the gunman who killed 14 women at a Montreal engineering school is a “prophet for the incel cause.”
“There’s only one path to acknowledgement as an incel and it happens to be violence,” a user wrote on a different online forum.
“In order for your ideology to get across, violence is inevitably required,” another wrote.


Internet sites for incels, or involuntary celibates, are a swamp of self-pity, conspiracy theory and outright justification of violence.
But despite growing recognition that attacks by incels are a form of domestic terrorism, online discussion forums that cater to the misogynist subculture continue to operate openly.
A Global News investigation has found that one of the two main forums used by incels is hosted in Russia, while the second is the reincarnation of a males-only U.S. website suspended in 2018 for spreading hate and violence.


The Moscow-based site did not respond to a request for comment.
The administrator of the other, where the 1989 École Polytechnique mass killer is revered as “the greatest of our heroes,” said posts violating U.S. law would be removed and the users banned.
“There are several forums that are quite important for a lot of these individuals, and they range in terms of how extremist the content gets,” said Prof. Amarnath Amarasingam.
He said some incel forums should be more closely monitored and self-policed by their owners, but removing them from the internet would not be easy.
“Generally speaking, I think shutting the whole thing down is going to be next to impossible,” said the Queen’s University professor, who recently interviewed the administrator of a popular incel forum.



During the 2019 federal election campaign, the Liberals promised regulations requiring social media companies to remove content linked to radicalization and incitement within 24 hours or face “significant financial penalties.”
“We believe that when social media platforms are used to spread these harmful views, the platforms themselves must also be held accountable,” the party platform book reads.
But eight months later, it is not difficult to find violent extremist content on internet forums serving incels — aggrieved men who believe they are victims of society because they cannot attract sexual partners.
On the primary incel websites, violence is a recurring theme, as is the glorification of those who have conducted deadly attacks in Canada and the United States.



“Shooting others is the only way your plight can be heard,” a user wrote on one of the forums. “You need to be drastic to get anywhere as an ugly male in this society.”
“I think these platforms are still operating because they are still largely considered outside of the realm of terrorism,” said Prof. Colin Clarke, a senior research fellow at the Soufan Center.
He said incel posts tended to be dismissed as “the immature musings of young men,” and singling out what constitutes terrorist content and balancing its removal with free speech protections takes time, he said.
“There is always a lag effect to taking down these platforms, and unfortunately, social media companies are typically slow to recognize the threat, and as such, slow to act,” said Clarke.
“The key is identifying speech that incites or is intended to incite violence, which crosses the line.”


Amarasingam said social media companies were preoccupied with ISIS and content like beheading videos and hadn’t sufficiently branched out to tackle right-wing extremists and more fringe groups like incels.
“That conversation still needs to happen, I think, because a lot of the mechanisms of takedown and response by the social media platforms have been entirely formulated around the Islamic State threat, and it hasn’t really expanded beyond that,” he said.
Although a relatively new phenomenon, incel-related attacks have killed almost 50 in recent years.
The suspect arrested for the 2018 Toronto van attack that killed 10 and injured 16 told police he had been active on incel discussion forums on 4chan and Reddit.
The 2019 stabbing of a woman in a Sudbury, Ont., parking lot was also conducted by a self-described incel, and on May 19, a 17-year-old was charged with terrorism over a Feb. 24 attack at a Toronto massage parlour.
Police have alleged the youth, who killed one woman and injured another, was inspired by incel ideology.
Reddit banned incel discussion groups in November 2017.


The incels.me website appeared shortly after but was suspended in October 2018.
“A considerable proportion of the discourse classifies as hate speech, with the forum brimming with misogynist, anti-feminist and homophobic utterances,” according to an academic study of incels.me.
But new online forums have since emerged to serve incels; one even operates a private Twitter account.
Incel forums reacted to the terrorism charges in the Toronto massage parlour case by portraying themselves as victims of a conspiracy to demonize them.
“Get ready to be persecuted,” one wrote.

Another said women who had rejected the Toronto attacker should be jailed.
“At least we’ll be feared,” another wrote.
One user wrote that the woman stabbed during the spa attack in Toronto “deserved it … I’d have broken her head.”


The Toronto Police Service said it was “aware of various online posts that include information about incel violence.”
“Each of these posts is considered on a case-by-case basis as our investigators work to determine whether the content is extremism, hate speech or a legitimate threat of violence,” said Meaghan Gray, a Toronto police spokesperson.

The Canadian government has recently categorized incels as a form of ideologically motivated violent extremism and helped fund a guide to help front-line workers confront incel radicalization.
The RCMP is also in the process of updating its Terrorism and Violent Extremism Awareness Guide, and a spokesperson for the police force said incels would “very likely” be included.

“The internet and social media can play an important role in the radicalization to violence process,” said Public Safety Minister Bill Blair’s spokesperson, Mary-Liz Power.

Asked what the government had done about its election promise to penalize social media companies over violent extremist content, Power said Blair and Justice Minister David Lametti were working on it.
“This remains an important priority shared between our minister and Minister Lametti, and work is ongoing,” she said.
 
what are the freedom of speech laws? this is an international forum
 
I remember that "shooting is the only way to be heard" post. The OP was saying that violence was the only way that small groups could grow and be heard, and he was right. I'm not encouraging violence but the fact is fear is pretty much the only motivator that people listen to today.
 
I remember that "shooting is the only way to be heard" post. The OP was saying that violence was the only way that small groups could grow and be heard, and he was right. I'm not encouraging violence but the fact is fear is pretty much the only motivator that people listen to today.
Read you in the next article :lul:
 
Funny how the west keeps talking about "Look at us! We enjoy freedom the most out of any country!!" Yet they won't let us have our own website.
 
despite making up 13 of the population
 
Funny how the west keeps talking about "Look at us! We enjoy freedom the most out of any country!!" Yet they won't let us have our own website.
2020 will be a horrible ride tbh

It will get really bad. What are today's conspiracy memes here are the future fml
 
Also Guelph:
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We aren't even a drop in the bucket of problems they have

I remember that "shooting is the only way to be heard" post. The OP was saying that violence was the only way that small groups could grow and be heard, and he was right. I'm not encouraging violence but the fact is fear is pretty much the only motivator that people listen to today.
Very prevalent in the US right now
 
Incel forums reacted to the terrorism charges in the Toronto massage parlour case by portraying themselves as victims of a conspiracy to demonize them.
Funny how these soyfags think that the canadian government targeting us is a conspiracy.
 
Tbfh 99.9999 of incels/us are not a threat and we just hang out with similar people to us who know womens and societys bs
 
Funny how these soyfags think that the canadian government targeting us is a conspiracy.
The ultra feminist country of Canada attacking male virgins in their own corner of the internet? This just proves us right though, when women get enough leverage in the system they plan to attack and eliminate males that don't bow down to them. This is not a conspiracy theory. They don't have shit for solutions though because they refuse to admit how discriminatory females are. Once again men are suppose to "be the bigger person" and fold for others conveniences. The only reason this did not happen sooner because goverments have killed off millions of young males in catastrophic wars before they became disenfranchised.
 
BLM is proof that violence causes quick change
 
I remember that "shooting is the only way to be heard" post. The OP was saying that violence was the only way that small groups could grow and be heard, and he was right. I'm not encouraging violence but the fact is fear is pretty much the only motivator that people listen to today.
Money and violence are the only two ways to change the world.
 
I don’t see what is so extremist about non chad men trying to cope online with others. The majority of us are absolutely harmless
 
Funny how the west keeps talking about "Look at us! We enjoy freedom the most out of any country!!" Yet they won't let us have our own website.
Land of the free (if you are rich, attractive or female)

Everyone else is a cog in the machine to maintain the lifestyles of the bourgeois and privileged.
 
Fuck em, may the street's flow red with foid blood and day be ruled by gunfire.
 
These cucks are in favor of "liberty of Freedom" only for people who think like them
 
Funny how the west keeps talking about "Look at us! We enjoy freedom the most out of any country!!" Yet they won't let us have our own website.
The ultra feminist country of Canada attacking male virgins in their own corner of the internet? This just proves us right though, when women get enough leverage in the system they plan to attack and eliminate males that don't bow down to them. This is not a conspiracy theory. They don't have shit for solutions though because they refuse to admit how discriminatory females are. Once again men are suppose to "be the bigger person" and fold for others conveniences. The only reason this did not happen sooner because goverments have killed off millions of young males in catastrophic wars before they became disenfranchised.
These cucks are in favor of "liberty of Freedom" only for people who think like them
 
Incels.co will never be stopped
 
Witchhunt, but unjustified
 
Funny how the west keeps talking about "Look at us! We enjoy freedom the most out of any country!!" Yet they won't let us have our own website.

liberals love censorship when its shit they dont like to hear, reddit is a good echo chamber to showcase this.
 
I remember that "shooting is the only way to be heard" post. The OP was saying that violence was the only way that small groups could grow and be heard, and he was right. I'm not encouraging violence but the fact is fear is pretty much the only motivator that people listen to today.
The BLM march with all their looting and destruction is a testament to that statement.
 
BLM is proof that violence causes quick change
Because society utilizes violent pressure against the state because of an element that's part of the state.

It wouldn't work for us because no one gives a shit and women don't work for the state.


I also assume it won't get much better in the long run for blacks it's just because it's election year
 

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