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Greycel
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I’ve been thinking lately on how demographic pressure alters the subjective value of young men and why we seem to have less of an ability to get woman than previous generations. Basically I’m operating on the basic trends of:
-men tend to date same age or younger, thus young women will always have more options than young men.
-how you are treated by women is a direct result of how many viable options she has, ie. she will treat men poorly and say many misandrist statements because it doesn’t alter her prospects much considering if one man takes offense there will always be a replacement.

So why has this not always been the case? I’ve come to the conclusion that it is the combination of this natural predisposition for men to date younger relative to women COMBINED with population decline/stagnation. For example, boomer men were a massive percentage of the population relative to their parents generation, thus the intersex competition based on age was but a drop in the bucket and barely a factor for boomer men while the fathers of the boomers benefited from massive leverage over women by having access to their age as well as a huge cohort of younger women. This disparity I believe resulted in the onset of second wave feminism at this time targeting the source of this disparity being high fertility. With stagnating/declining birth rates there is more intersex competition for men our age because we have to compete with the bloat of past generations without the numbers to absorb it, thus resulting in young women having 1:2 or 1:3 ratios of access allowing them to have:
-the leverage necessary to treat us like shit and still manage to get a partner and fit into polite society.
-higher subjective value resulting in more sympathy and acceptance of their bad behaviors such as cheating, whoring, etc.
-more time to develop career wise, socially, and materially because they do not have to spend the same amount of time focusing on acquiring a partner since one will naturally fall into her lap.

Because of this demographic phenomenon I believe it is in our best interests to support policies/practices that increase are subjective value along these lines. Even if you agree with theses policies as an individual it’s important to think about what is in your/our interests on a macro/systemic scale. Examples include:
-Supporting anything that increases the birth rate.
-actually supporting immigration, most immigrants are young and would bolster our numbers to better absorb the intergenerational intersex competition.
-attempt, or politically support the attempt, to limit women’s access to birth control, abortion, etc. I mean… in the current situation we are devalued to being incels so it’s not as if these tools would help us on an individual basis, however denying it would increase our subjective value of a macro scale by the mechanism listed before.

As I continue to think about this the more I question how much of our current disparity is actually the result of online dating, feminism, or hypergamy and I’ve began to ascribe more of the blame to the material reality forced upon us by demographics.
 
So by this logic older men have more options than younger men?
 
In the past marriage was mandatory, even homosexuals has to marry and reproduce.
Nowadays with sexual "liberation" the competition and selection is unleash
 
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In the past marriage was mandatory, even homosexuals has to marry and reproduce.
Nowadays with sexual "liberation" the competition and selection is unleash
True,
Women had to marry average or below average men to survive cause they couldnt work on their own
 
Meanwhile In real life old men aren't dating prime young women. Women are attracted to men of their own age, men are attracted to young women. Men hit the wall as well as women. Some men become obese, lose hair, hit the agepill, get erectile dysfunction etc.
Go to any supermarket and see whether you can find a fat bald middle aged man dating a prime stacy. Bet you find many.
 
Meanwhile In real life old men aren't dating prime young women. Women are attracted to men of their own age, men are attracted to young women. Men hit the wall as well as women. Some men become obese, lose hair, hit the agepill, get erectile dysfunction etc.
Go to any supermarket and see whether you can find a fat bald middle aged man dating a prime stacy. Bet you find many.
While I agree, in general, with your statement I disagree with how it usually presents. It is seldom simply a 40 year old man getting with a 22 y/o. What usually happens is said 40 y/o man gets with a 36 y/o, then the 36 y/o man she would have been with then displaces a 32 y/o…. This continues in a chain reaction of sorts until it eventually displaces the younger men.
 
Meanwhile In real life old men aren't dating prime young women. Women are attracted to men of their own age, men are attracted to young women. Men hit the wall as well as women. Some men become obese, lose hair, hit the agepill, get erectile dysfunction etc.
Go to any supermarket and see whether you can find a fat bald middle aged man dating a prime stacy. Bet you find many.
I mean… I agree for the most part. The thing is it doesn’t take the entire population to make an impact. If say only 30% of older men date younger and only 5% of older women do the same you still have a situation in which 1 out of every 4-5 young guys is now incel. This compounds massively with population decline where, for example, 30% of older men could perhaps displace 50% plus of younger men.
 
So by this logic older men have more options than younger men?
Possibly. Women don’t really go for younger men typically. The point is the comparison of older men vs older women, in which population increase massively favors older men vs older women. Also young men vs young women, in which the reverse, population decline massively favors young women. I would argue both old and young men benefit from population increase and the reverse for women but the degree to which they benefit varies.
The purpose wasn’t to chastise older men or claim that one group of men had it better.
 
In the past marriage was mandatory, even homosexuals has to marry and reproduce.
Nowadays with sexual "liberation" the competition and selection is unleash
I totally agree with you. Marriage functionally prevents said older men from competing with younger men because it locks them down. Said “liberation” happened, I would argue, as a reaction to the point in which a subset of men had the most leverage ever over women ever as a result of the largest population increase ever that was the boomer population.
 
I mean… I agree for the most part. The thing is it doesn’t take the entire population to make an impact. If say only 30% of older men date younger and only 5% of older women do the same you still have a situation in which 1 out of every 4-5 young guys is now incel. This compounds massively with population decline where, for example, 30% of older men could perhaps displace 50% plus of younger men.
Women date men of their own age. Dude, old men arent fucking prime pussy. I never see an old man with a young chick. The only exception is celebrities

EDIT: a 22 year old foid might date a 24-27 year old man but not 40+
 
Women date men of their own age. Dude, old men arent fucking prime pussy. I never see an old man with a young chick. The only exception is celebrities

EDIT: a 22 year old foid might date a 24-27 year old man but not 40+
Even if the age difference is not much it still has the same effect. What I mean by this is while you don’t see many 40+ men with 22 y/o’s, in which I agree, that’s not how it would typically present. For example, said 40 y/o man dates a bit younger to 36. Well the 36 y/o man he displaced is now, considering the woman at his age is paired up, more likely to date younger and displace a 30 y/o. This chain reaction style cycle continues until the 22 year old guy is displaced by say a 26 y/o guy. The displacement doesn’t not have to be direct for it to still have an effectively 1-1 displacement result.
 

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